The Blind Leading the Blind

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Well you will all be blind if you start using powerful UV lamps without safety glasses or inject rubbing alcohol.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216

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5 hours ago, ronwagn said:

12 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

>Trump seized the Federal Reserve something that Andrew Jackson would have loved and something that got Abe Lincoln and JFK assassinated for even mentioning

 

Just for historical correctness, Lincoln did not have a central bank in his time. Jackson had shut it down in 1835 or so. 

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4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Well you will all be blind if you start using powerful UV lamps without safety glasses or inject rubbing alcohol.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216

Lets have Trump try it first or maybe he can have his kids be used in a trial?

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1 hour ago, 0R0 said:

Just for historical correctness, Lincoln did not have a central bank in his time. Jackson had shut it down in 1835 or so. 

The independent banks were Worse than a Central Bank

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Yes, we are seeing more and more in this world that the blind are leading the blind, and both will fall into a pit.

Now how does a person assure that they won't be blind and be misled?

We need to know who we really are, what is beneficial for us and move in the right direction.

If one can find a guide who knows the final destination, then even better.

 

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Probably this has already been stated but if its going to be a seasonal thing then best thing to do is get it in a controlled manner so as not to overwhelm the hospitals, I think this was always the goal, I remember a comment I made about Hysteria in the USA some time ago and got battered for it. MSM has created  hysterical hysteria at this point.

I think most first world countries can handle this, not the case where I live, not even money will help you. This indeed is  now Darwinian and survival of the fittest is the order of the day.

Edited April 24, 2020 by James Regan

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https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2020/04/23/delingpole-why-must-covid-19-decision-makers-be-clouded-in-secrecy/

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Saddly I think this is extremely likely

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/what-will-post-covid-look-tv-and-history-books

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4 hours ago, Radha said:

Yes, we are seeing more and more in this world that the blind are leading the blind, and both will fall into a pit.

Now how does a person assure that they won't be blind and be misled?

We need to know who we really are, what is beneficial for us and move in the right direction.

If one can find a guide who knows the final destination, then even better.

 

@Radha I think I can read through your post, im also in search of that guru (in reality we are each his or her own guru), unfortunately we live in a world where "in the land of the blind the one eyed man is king"

Edited April 24, 2020 by James Regan

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12 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Well you will all be blind if you start using powerful UV lamps without safety glasses or inject rubbing alcohol.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-suggests-injection-disinfectant-beat-coronavirus-clean-lungs-n1191216

If you saw the coverage DT never said that, it was pushed by a reporter who projected the injecting of detergents as well as other things in the same question, if there was ever a loaded statement or question that was it. If I was Trump I would tell the medial all of them to GTF and they are no longer 'GUESTS" in the white house. US media is the laughing stock of the modern world, they don't realise it but each question and then heavily edited sound bight etc is making people turn off the TVs. For posting this you should be sent to the back of the class and assume the position with Cone in hand...... You know the cone with D for ??????

Do we really think that Donnie is that dumb that he would advise injecting disinfectants, this deserves some clarification, as it ties in with my Does POTUS know the oil Industry thread- Of course he doesn't - He may come across to most as a dumbass but he is the man at the top, he speaks his mind and then others filter it to hopefully come with a resultant which includes the sum of all the parts. 

If anyone thinks that injecting toilet cleansing products into your bloodstream is a good thing, then go with your gut one less deadwood to worry about, we dont really need these people around us, they don't bring much to the table. But CNN are getting some mileage out of it, Dr Sanjay Gupta looks worried, he cares you know......

Edited April 24, 2020 by James Regan

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Did the CDC just confirm that the virus is destroyed by UV light? Imagine my shock 🤣

We're living in clown world...for weeks we've been told that it could live on surfaces for 6 hours, 9 hours, 2 hours, 6 days or 9 days

Something a few of us here said was probably rubbish from day one 😂

 

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5 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

Did the CDC just confirm that the virus is destroyed by UV light? Imagine my shock 🤣

We're living in clown world...for weeks we've been told that it could live on surfaces for 6 hours, 9 hours, 2 hours, 6 days or 9 days

Something a few of us here said was probably rubbish from day one 😂

 

Trump sets up MSM to attack him as a stupid oaf who makes dumb unfounded statements about science and medicine.

They fall into the trap….

And then, the world wakes up and learns that it is all true.

UV Light That Is Safe for Humans but Bad for Bacteria and Viruses

In the constant battle against the spread of infectious diseases, scientists are continually on the hunt for new weapons that specifically target pathogenic microbes. Now, investigators from the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University Irving Medical Center (CUIMC) believe they may have found a new, low-cost solution to eradicating airborne viruses in indoor public spaces. The research team found that continuous low doses of far ultraviolet C (far-UVC) light can kill airborne flu viruses without harming human tissues. The findings from the new study—published today in Scientific Reports in an article entitled “Far-UVC Light: A New Tool to Control the Spread of Airborne-Mediated Microbial Diseases”—suggests that use of overhead far-UVC light in hospitals, doctors’ offices, schools, airports, airplanes, and other public spaces could provide a powerful check on seasonal influenza epidemics, as well as influenza pandemics.

Scientists have known for decades that broad-spectrum UVC light, which has a wavelength of between 200 to 400 nanometers (nm), is highly effective at killing bacteria and viruses by destroying the molecular bonds that hold their DNA together. This conventional UV light is routinely used to decontaminate surgical equipment.

…DECADES…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21058-w

 

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7 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Trump sets up MSM to attack him as a stupid oaf who makes dumb unfounded statements about science and medicine.

They fall into the trap….

And then, the world wakes up and learns that it is all true.

UV Light That Is Safe for Humans but Bad for Bacteria and Viruses

In the constant battle against the spread of infectious diseases, scientists are continually on the hunt for new weapons that specifically target pathogenic microbes. Now, investigators from the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University Irving Medical Center (CUIMC) believe they may have found a new, low-cost solution to eradicating airborne viruses in indoor public spaces. The research team found that continuous low doses of far ultraviolet C (far-UVC) light can kill airborne flu viruses without harming human tissues. The findings from the new study—published today in Scientific Reports in an article entitled “Far-UVC Light: A New Tool to Control the Spread of Airborne-Mediated Microbial Diseases”—suggests that use of overhead far-UVC light in hospitals, doctors’ offices, schools, airports, airplanes, and other public spaces could provide a powerful check on seasonal influenza epidemics, as well as influenza pandemics.

Scientists have known for decades that broad-spectrum UVC light, which has a wavelength of between 200 to 400 nanometers (nm), is highly effective at killing bacteria and viruses by destroying the molecular bonds that hold their DNA together. This conventional UV light is routinely used to decontaminate surgical equipment.

…DECADES…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21058-w

 

On another note do you remember all the videos of people in China keeling over and dropping dead in the streets?

Funny how we've not even seen one similar video from Europe or the US

Hmmmm

 

 

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23 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

Did the CDC just confirm that the virus is destroyed by UV light? Imagine my shock 🤣

We're living in clown world...for weeks we've been told that it could live on surfaces for 6 hours, 9 hours, 2 hours, 6 days or 9 days

Something a few of us here said was probably rubbish from day one 😂

 

Remember all those calls to shelter in place, inside, not in the sun, away from fresh air?

Coronavirus and the Sun: a Lesson from the 1918 Influenza Pandemic

Fresh air, sunlight and improvised face masks seemed to work a century ago; and they might help us now.

by Richard Hobday 3/10/2020 

… Put simply, medics found that severely ill flu patients nursed outdoors recovered better than those treated indoors. A combination of fresh air and sunlight seems to have prevented deaths among patients; and infections among medical staff.[1] There is scientific support for this. Research shows that outdoor air is a natural disinfectant. Fresh air can kill the flu virus and other harmful germs. Equally, sunlight is germicidal and there is now evidence it can kill the flu virus.

`Open-Air’ Treatment in 1918

During the great pandemic, two of the worst places to be were military barracks and troop-ships. Overcrowding and bad ventilation put soldiers and sailors at high risk of catching influenza and the other infections that often followed it.[2,3] As with the current Covid-19 outbreak, most of the victims of so-called `Spanish flu’ did not die from influenza: they died of pneumonia and other complications.

When the influenza pandemic reached the East coast of the United States in 1918, the city of Boston was particularly badly hit. So the State Guard set up an emergency hospital. They took in the worst cases among sailors on ships in Boston harbour. The hospital’s medical officer had noticed the most seriously ill sailors had been in badly-ventilated spaces. So he gave them as much fresh air as possible by putting them in tents. And in good weather they were taken out of their tents and put in the sun. At this time, it was common practice to put sick soldiers outdoors. Open-air therapy, as it was known, was widely used on casualties from the Western Front. And it became the treatment of choice for another common and often deadly respiratory infection of the time; tuberculosis. Patients were put outside in their beds to breathe fresh outdoor air. Or they were nursed in cross-ventilated wards with the windows open day and night. The open-air regimen remained popular until antibiotics replaced it in the 1950s.

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6 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Trump sets up MSM to attack him as a stupid oaf who makes dumb unfounded statements about science and medicine.

They fall into the trap….

And then, the world wakes up and learns that it is all true.

UV Light That Is Safe for Humans but Bad for Bacteria and Viruses

In the constant battle against the spread of infectious diseases, scientists are continually on the hunt for new weapons that specifically target pathogenic microbes. Now, investigators from the Center for Radiological Research at Columbia University Irving Medical Center (CUIMC) believe they may have found a new, low-cost solution to eradicating airborne viruses in indoor public spaces. The research team found that continuous low doses of far ultraviolet C (far-UVC) light can kill airborne flu viruses without harming human tissues. The findings from the new study—published today in Scientific Reports in an article entitled “Far-UVC Light: A New Tool to Control the Spread of Airborne-Mediated Microbial Diseases”—suggests that use of overhead far-UVC light in hospitals, doctors’ offices, schools, airports, airplanes, and other public spaces could provide a powerful check on seasonal influenza epidemics, as well as influenza pandemics.

Scientists have known for decades that broad-spectrum UVC light, which has a wavelength of between 200 to 400 nanometers (nm), is highly effective at killing bacteria and viruses by destroying the molecular bonds that hold their DNA together. This conventional UV light is routinely used to decontaminate surgical equipment.

…DECADES…

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-018-21058-w

 

UV kills most bacterias, next time your eating anything packaged its been UV bombed before hand, I was that bomber, its particularly present in the seafood industry, you would never eat a frozen prawn of crab if you have done what I have, eye opener indeed.

I owned a Tattoo studio before any autoclave session all our reusables and tattoo machines were left in the sun before being sterilised in the autoclave machine (tattoo machines don't go into the autoclave before anyone jumps on me)

Donnie knows how to play the game, granted he makes some statements which sound unbelievable (bit like Bush Jnr) but beware dumb ass he is not, if so you are all being commanded by a dumb ass, surely someone would have done something about that by now.

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7 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

On another note do you remember all the videos of people in China keeling over and dropping dead in the streets?

Funny how we've not even seen one similar video from Europe or the US

Hmmmm

 

 

Bat Scratch Fever - Wango Contango - Ted Nugent for President (MSM) Motor Sity Madman

Edited April 24, 2020 by James Regan

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I live in in a city in Brasil called Sao Jose dos campos  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/São_José_dos_Campos our city was a centre for the treatment of Tuberculosis because of its climate, The city became to be known as the Sanatorium City. The country's then-largest hospital, the Vicentina Aranha Sanitarium, was opened in town in 1924, and in 1935 the municipality was officially recognized as a health retreat.The call for the municipality of São José dos Campos for the treatment of pulmonary tuberculosis. This was due to its air quality and high sunlight levels.

Our city is now the Brasilian centre for IT, aeronautics, rocket science its considered the Intelligent City of Brasil (before @Douglas Buckland says anything I'm just visiting), my point is that 100 years ago they realised that most therapeutics and cures were always around us, we just need to look.

Im no Donnie fan but when you have to think mechanically his statements or discussion points are not so far off the mark, id prefer to have a layman asking technical questions than a rocket scientist or Engineer who can't ask a simple question, they are always loaded.

Edited April 24, 2020 by James Regan
Dont eat bats, it doesn't end well

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Sorry but its that time again.....

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Okay I gone down that Rabbit hole, Ted seems to have the answers its a Free for All- A trophy for the type and name of Guitar the Axe Man wields ??

 

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2 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

 

 

White Zombie - were well out there early on - Enspired so many for a fairly modern band/genre - Good driving music...

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1 hour ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Remember all those calls to shelter in place, inside, not in the sun, away from fresh air?

Our bio-hazard fume hood at the lab had a very powerful UV light that was specifically designed to kill germs.  It didn't work that well.  Mechanically cleaning (rubbing) with disinfectant was still required.

Same with the incubator, it had a UV light cleaning cycle that didn't work well and those surfaces were clean. We had people come in and fill it with chlorine gas (or similar)  every so often.

 

You would need a severe sunburn to get enough UV light to really clean your skin. 

I do think fresh air and sun is good for you, but mostly for the vitamin D. Hell, that was the original treatment for TB / consumption... Milk and sunlight. Fortunately science evolved past that treatment.

Edited April 24, 2020 by Enthalpic

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He didn't say fancy far UVC light, he said UV light or just very bright light.

Don't translate moron into reason for him. 

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The farce continues

"Dyson is about to be stood down from making ventilators just weeks after sparking a row by announcing it had received a government order for 10,000 of the medical devices.

Sources close to the Government project say Sir James Dyson's company will soon be told its services are no longer required."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/04/24/dyson-set-have-ventilator-contract-cancelled/

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Branson goes belly up

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2020/04/24/virgin-australia-jets-impounded-perth-airport/