Donald Trump proposed to inject COVID-19 patients with bleach

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

Look it up, it's all over the news, I won't even bother with links this time (T-cult does not deal with facts anyway). 

Yes, it actually happened. "Heat them up - and inject them with bleach" - that's Mr. Trump's panacea (after hydrochlorine turned up to be a dud, but not before Bayer cashed nice sums due to the elevated demand). You can see the shock of the present medical professionals' faces. 

Because finally, this is an undeniable proof of colossal stupidity that is not easily brushed away. Not the ignorance itself - in today's world full of databases of accurate info on every thinkable topic, it's normal to be ignorant from time to time, but the non-stupid people are aware of their ignorance, and if necessary, they inform themselves if situation requires it. But not Donald Trump - oh no, not him. It's obvious that he mocks knowledge and actual skills of any kind. He ignores the experts around him, brushes aside informed advice, and listens to his favorite bootlickers, yes-men and nodders, tossing nonsense after nonsense in the air, because - what if he is right by accident? Than it's time to boast about it as divine insight and competence. But if it's a flop, like it usually is, it's time to find a scapegoat to blame. 

The moment when the ignorant becomes stupid is when he peddles his ignorant advice to the best expert like a viable alternative - like he wanted the medical experts to affirm that what he said made sense. The blatant arrogance, thinking that he, an ignorant person with zero knowledge on the subject could somehow come with an alternative all the experts overlook. Now Trumps stupidity shines naked in a broad daylight, him being a person whose incompetence killed more Americans that all the terrorists of the world combined.  Beyond third word dictatorships, it's actually quite rare to have a person of such "calibre" in the position of supreme power. I wonder if the sane part of the USA mobilizes into action before what remains of US international reputation is blown away by the wind. 

Edited April 24, 2020 by Yoshiro Kamamura

[El Nikko + 2,145]

No it didn't

Stop talking out of your arse

[Meredith Poor + 883]

Keyword search Josef Mengele.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Death by bleach injection would be quicker, and more humane, than death by lockdown.

They just increased ours by two weeks again, for a total of six.

This is REAL lockdown, not what I am seeing enforced elsewhere.

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

1 hour ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Death by bleach injection would be quicker, and more humane, than death by lockdown.

They just increased ours by two weeks again, for a total of six.

This is REAL lockdown, not what I am seeing enforced elsewhere.

That sucks.  We just have social distancing, we can still go for a walk, get groceries and liquor, etc.  Restaurants are still open, just take out or delivery only.

it's not so bad.

[Hotone + 412]

1 hour ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Death by bleach injection would be quicker, and more humane, than death by lockdown.

They just increased ours by two weeks again, for a total of six.

This is REAL lockdown, not what I am seeing enforced elsewhere.

Nope, we can still go out.  Same as in Canada, we can still get groceries and liquor, etc.  Restaurants are still open, just take out or delivery.  I can go for a walk in the in our gated community. I drive and shuffle between two residences.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

36 minutes ago, Hotone said:

Nope, we can still go out.  Same as in Canada, we can still get groceries and liquor, etc.  Restaurants are still open, just take out or delivery.  I can go for a walk in the in our gated community. I drive and shuffle between two residences.

Well Hotone, you have it good then! Here, near KLCC, there are roadblocks, military and police.

You CAN go to the grocery store, pharmacy, take out restaurant, but you had better have a grocery bag and a mask with you!

You must go alone, not even with your spouse.

The apartment management has closed off the pool and outdoor area, the gym, all common areas and the parking garage.

There is nowhere to exercise IF you adhere strictly to the Movement Control Order.

You should count your blessings!

[Hotone + 412]

1 hour ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Well Hotone, you have it good then! Here, near KLCC, there are roadblocks, military and police.

You CAN go to the grocery store, pharmacy, take out restaurant, but you had better have a grocery bag and a mask with you!

You must go alone, not even with your spouse.

The apartment management has closed off the pool and outdoor area, the gym, all common areas and the parking garage.

There is nowhere to exercise IF you adhere strictly to the Movement Control Order.

You should count your blessings!

Yes, all condo facilities are not available.  The parking garage should still be open, how else can you drive out?

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

1 hour ago, Hotone said:

Yes, all condo facilities are not available.  The parking garage should still be open, how else can you drive out?

Of course you can drive in or out! You cannot use it for exercising.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

3 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Of course you can drive in or out! You cannot use it for exercising.

If you live in a high rise apartment, have you considered walking up and down the fire escape staircase?  I used to do that in Singapore and Malaysia for early morning exercise.  A few round trips walking up and down 30 or so floors of stairs of a high rise is good cardio.  And nobody disturbs your exercise.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

5 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

If you live in a high rise apartment, have you considered walking up and down the fire escape staircase?  I used to do that in Singapore and Malaysia for early morning exercise.  A few round trips walking up and down 30 or so floors of stairs of a high rise is good cardio.  And nobody disturbs your exercise.

The stairwells are considered part of the common area, which cannot be used...

[Radha + 262]

It appears that people are supposed to get sick and depressed by being on house arrest away from sun, fresh air and exercise all of which boosts the immune system.

Why on earth do they close swimming pools? They could just say that 1 person at a time for 15 minutes or whatever. No common sense anywhere.

[Ron Ron + 18]

8 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Death by bleach injection would be quicker, and more humane, than death by lockdown.

They just increased ours by two weeks again, for a total of six.

This is REAL lockdown, not what I am seeing enforced elsewhere.

In the US most states have shelter in place orders as opposed to a lockdown. 

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

I am no Trump fan.  I do not vote.  The system is broken.   But Trump did not say that.  He did not say inject bleach.  He was thinking out loud when he said stuff about doing ultraviolet light inside the body and a disinfectant inside the body.  Well, I have done that.  Repeatedly.  For years.  I have put a disinfectant into my body and bathed a small portion of my blood with Ultraviolet Light. 

It fixed viral pneumonia in less than 12 hours and I was outside loading trucks in 25 degree weather the next day, and on the day after, on 9 hour shifts with no lunch...feeling great!  I am over 65.  I had a friend who had gone to specialists for 7 years because of an infection that the specialists could not get rid of.  She was scheduled to have her foot amputated at Christmas break.  The surgeon suggested that she wait until after the New Year so she would not spend the holidays in the hospital.  However, she went and got the $300 alternative treatment on Christmas Eve.  After the New Year, she reported to the surgeon to have her foot cut off.  He said, "Well, it has been about three weeks.  Let's run some tests first."  They found no infection whatsoever. None. Nada.  She still has two feet.  

“Ozone Blood Therapy and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy” are often done in combination.  However, each of them on their own, can address ALL viruses, including Ebola and HIV.  Currently COVID-19 is being treated with both therapies and also with Ozone Therapy alone.  With incredible success.  Miraculous.  You will not hear about this on TV News.  There are no side-effects.  Never.  That is no liability.  These therapies can do no harm by an experienced medical practitioner.  They are not patentable. They are cheap.  These therapies can also address many, many, many other conditions including helping regrow a bum knee.  Around the world, thousands of Doctors, Dentists, and Veterinarians utilize  “Ozone Blood Therapy and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy”

I will explain more later.

QUEUED VIDEO from WHITE HOUSE  https://youtu.be/PsQnfpfIa_o?t=19m46s  At the 25 minute mark of the video, a “Best Practices Slide” is shown.  It highlights three important factors on how to attenuate a virus.  Heat. UV Light. Disinfectants. 

Solar Light = UV Light    Disinfectant = Ozone    Heat = Patient’s Fever

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

4 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

I am no Trump fan.  I do not vote.  The system is broken.   But Trump did not say that.  He did not say inject bleach.  He was thinking out loud when he said stuff about doing ultraviolet light inside the body and a disinfectant inside the body.  Well, I have done that.  Repeatedly.  For years.  I have put a disinfectant into my body and bathed a small portion of my blood with Ultraviolet Light. 

It fixed viral pneumonia in less than 12 hours and I was outside loading trucks in 25 degree weather the next day, and on the day after, on 9 hour shifts with no lunch...feeling great!  I am over 65.  I had a friend who had gone to specialists for 7 years because of an infection that the specialists could not get rid of.  She was scheduled to have her foot amputated at Christmas break.  The surgeon suggested that she wait until after the New Year so she would not spend the holidays in the hospital.  However, she went and got the $300 alternative treatment on Christmas Eve.  After the New Year, she reported to the surgeon to have her foot cut off.  He said, "Well, it has been about three weeks.  Let's run some tests first."  They found no infection whatsoever. None. Nada.  She still has two feet.  

“Ozone Blood Therapy and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy” are often done in combination.  However, each of them on their own, can address ALL viruses, including Ebola and HIV.  Currently COVID-19 is being treated with both therapies and also with Ozone Therapy alone.  With incredible success.  Miraculous.  You will not hear about this on TV News.  There are no side-effects.  Never.  That is no liability.  These therapies can do no harm by an experienced medical practitioner.  They are not patentable. They are cheap.  These therapies can also address many, many, many other conditions including helping regrow a bum knee.  Around the world, thousands of Doctors, Dentists, and Veterinarians utilize  “Ozone Blood Therapy and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy”

 

I will explain more later.

QUEUED VIDEO from WHITE HOUSE  https://youtu.be/PsQnfpfIa_o?t=19m46s  At the 25 minute mark of the video, a “Best Practices Slide” is shown.  It highlights three important factors on how to attenuate a virus.  Heat. UV Light. Disinfectants. 

Solar Light = UV Light    Disinfectant = Ozone    Heat = Patient’s Fever

 

Why “Ozone and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy” is The IDEAL TREATMENT for COVID-19 !   Explained, Summarized and Demonstrated in 4 minutes.    April 11, 2020   Dr. Clifford Fetters, MD of “Health and Wellness of Carmel, LLC” Indiana  “Treating COVID-19 with IV Ozone therapy”  (4 minutes)

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

Recently in ITALY   ~~ Miraculous success with first study of 36 COVID-19 Patients with Ozone Therapy    ~~ New larger Ozone Therapy study involving several hundred patients has been started.      (NOTE: Always the Medical Mafia Complex tries to suppress scientific studies on non-patentable cheap alternatives to health. Thus, it is astounding that this Italian hospital study was approved.)   Like the lead Doctor Amato De Monte points out: With Ozone Blood Therapy, there are no adverse side effects. Never. – It is completely safe.   * I should mention that the 36 study patients were lined up to be on ventilators, but were grabbed just prior to intubation.  Good luck on surviving intubation.

 

Here is Clint Eastwood’s Daughter Receiving Ozone Therapy on ‘The Doctors TV Show .  Click on the YouTube Channel or link in the show notes to find out more.  (4 minutes)

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

In this video Tom will take you through the basics of UBI (Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation) therapy, what it is, what it does, it's history and studies.  (25 minute)

 

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

Many diseases and conditions can be addressed utilizing a combination of these two therapies: “Ozone Blood Therapy and Ultraviolet Light Blood Therapy”  .  Both at the same time are simple.

Fibromyalgia, Lupus, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Psoriasis, Psoriatic Arthritis, Raynauds Disease, Sclera Derma, Multiple Sclerosis, Pneumonia, Wound Infections, Septicemia (staphylococcus,streptococcus, pneumococcus), Lymphatic Infections (lymphangitis), Peritonitis, Severe Acne, Recurrent Skin Infections (furunculosis, carbunulosis), E-coli, Necrotizing Infections, Lyme Disease, Lymphoma, Varicose Veins, Peripheral Vascular Disease, Gangrene, Vascular Headaches, Deep Vein Thrombosis, Claudication, Diabetic Ulcers, Thrombophlebitis, Arthritis, Fibrositis, Bursitis, Nephritis, Iritis, Uveitis, Cholecystitis, COPD, Asthma, Emphysema, Sinusitis, Bronchitis, Tuberculosis, Hepatitis, HIV, Influenza, Herpes Simplex/Zoster, Mononucleosis, Mumps, Measles Infections, Viral Pneumonia, Polio, Non-Healing Wounds & Fractures, Inactivation of Snake Venom, Fungal/Yeast Infection, Decreases Edema (Swelling), Cirrhosis, Tetanus, Chronic Fatigue, Allergies, Neuritis/Neuropathy, Chemical Sensitivity, Botulism, Malaria, Typhoid, Seizures, Blood Poisoning, Diphtheria

Thousands of Doctors offer these.  Google "Integrative Medicine" or "Functional Medicine" or "Holistic Medicine".  Typically, the Doctors who offer IV Drips (like Vitamin C or Glutathione or Myers Cocktail) will also offer one or both of the above therapies. 

Prolozone Therapy is a non-surgical procedure to eliminate or drastically reduce pain by facilitating the body's own natural ability to heal itself.  It can regenerate tissues and joints utilizing Ozone.

Edited April 25, 2020 by Tom Nolan

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

9 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Well Hotone, you have it good then! Here, near KLCC, there are roadblocks, military and police.

You CAN go to the grocery store, pharmacy, take out restaurant, but you had better have a grocery bag and a mask with you!

You must go alone, not even with your spouse.

The apartment management has closed off the pool and outdoor area, the gym, all common areas and the parking garage.

There is nowhere to exercise IF you adhere strictly to the Movement Control Order.

You should count your blessings!

They did close our exercise room and common area (that nobody ever used anyways).

If it was the middle of winter that would annoy me. Thankfully the snow is gone.

[Ernst Reim + 33]

Ozone and UV light kill germs and bacteria. That's true. They do not do so selectively. An ozone molecule might attack a virus. Or your blood cells. Or other cell membranes. Or anything inside the cell. To cite from Wikipedia: In April 2016, the FDA prohibited all medical uses of ozone, "In any medical condition for which there is no proof of safety and effectiveness", stating "Ozone is a toxic gas with no known useful medical application in specific, adjunctive, or preventive therapy. In order for ozone to be effective as a germicide, it must be present in a concentration far greater than that which can be safely tolerated by man and animals."^[

Ozone is known to attack biological issue under formation of radicals. Your body spends a lot of time protecting itself from radicals for a very good reason. While isolated medical doctors have claimed and continue to claim "successes" with ozone therapy, these never held up to any independent trial.

If used in small enough doses, application of ozone might not be harmful, but there is no proven benefit

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

6 minutes ago, Ernst Reim said:

Ozone and UV light kill germs and bacteria. That's true. They do not do so selectively. An ozone molecule might attack a virus. Or your blood cells. Or other cell membranes. Or anything inside the cell. To cite from Wikipedia: In April 2016, the FDA prohibited all medical uses of ozone, "In any medical condition for which there is no proof of safety and effectiveness", stating "Ozone is a toxic gas with no known useful medical application in specific, adjunctive, or preventive therapy. In order for ozone to be effective as a germicide, it must be present in a concentration far greater than that which can be safely tolerated by man and animals."^[

Ozone is known to attack biological issue under formation of radicals. Your body spends a lot of time protecting itself from radicals for a very good reason. While isolated medical doctors have claimed and continue to claim "successes" with ozone therapy, these never held up to any independent trial.

If used in small enough doses, application of ozone might not be harmful, but there is no proven benefit

Believe Wikipedia and Google and the Government searches all you want.  You don't know what you are talking about.

  I am sorry, but you have never done this.  I have.  I personally know hundreds of folks who have.

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

21 minutes ago, Ernst Reim said:

but there is no proven benefit

Again, you have absolutely no clue as to the mechanisms involved as to Ozone Therapy, nor the many ways that it helps a person's health.  Do better research.  Read the studies, like Bocci.  You are talking like you are an expert at the topic, when you are not.  You spent less than 5 minutes looking into this.

[notsonice + 1,065]

14 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

Believe Wikipedia and Google and the Government searches all you want.  You don't know what you are talking about.

  I am sorry, but you have never done this.  I have.  I personally know hundreds of folks who have.

Federal court blocks Texas health center from touting 'ozone therapy' as coronavirus treatment. Stop promoting your crackpot therapy here. Ozone should never be used on a Human being. It is deadly

[Ernst Reim + 33]

Chemist. When it comes to ozone, I actually know what I am talking about.

As I said, in low doses, it might not be harmful. In low enough doses, nothing is harmful. But it has not shown any effectiveness in any trial ever. I sincerely believe that you believe that it is helpful. I accept that you know hundreds of folk who do likewise. However, there is a very good reason, why medications are not prescribed "because hundreds of patients know that it helped them.", but only when their effectiveness has been proven in trials in which neither the patient nor the evaluating doctor know if the patient is treated with medication or placebo. And this is why the medical community is sceptical.

On digging a bit, I found that there are actually studies, which indicate that accompanying ozone therapy might be beneficial to reduce toxicity in therapies involving NO. However, this is a completely different kettle of fish. NO is a molecule which is highly likely to react with ozone. Thus ozone concentrations too low to harm your body, can still scavenge NO. However, from the view of the ozone molecule there is no difference between a virus and all other organic matter like your body. It will attack all of them. Thus an ozone concentration low enough not to harm you, is not high enough to harm a virus either. The claim of a high effectiveness against a virus and no side effects is what identifies this as unreliable.

Compare it to chlorine in swimming pools, which is highly similar to ozone in its reactivity. The concentration is just high enough that it will prevent the **accumulation** of bacteria. (It is not high enough to kill them off fast.) Nevertheless, it is already high enough to irritate your eyes. Imagine the same concentration of chlorine coming into contact with your **inner body cells**, which unlike the skin are not optimized to withstand that oxidative stress.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

11 hours ago, Ron Ron said:

In the US most states have shelter in place orders as opposed to a lockdown. 

A rose, by any other name, is still a rose.