Biden came out of his basement today (Thursday) and said , "we have 120 Million deaths from Covid 19.

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3 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ohh you are confused..Let us start from the top to gain a very simple understanding..

Russian Intel Unit offered Bounties for killing coalition troops in Afghanistan..

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/504770-russian-intelligence-unit-offered-bounties-for-killing-coalition

I assume we are on the same page here so as not have any misunderstandings....

Donald wants you to hurry up and get to the point so he can continue his round of golf. 


 

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On 6/26/2020 at 6:28 PM, Ward Smith said:

North Korea was in the bag,

WTF?  How do you write this with a straight face (assuming)?  Do you honestly and legitimately believe that Donald Trump was going to straighten out that crazy little man, who has done unspeakable things and kept millions of North Koreans repressed and suffering for years? You really believe this?  And the Democrats just messed it all up? Wow.  

On 6/26/2020 at 6:28 PM, Ward Smith said:

You don't want a debate, you just throw shit and hope something sticks.

You are such a hypocrite.  Saying "shit" like the above comment and then saying you want a real debate?  C'mon man, your arrogance is off the charts!  I haven't been on here in awhile but it's great to see, in this messed up world right now, that some things are constant.

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9 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

Donald wants you to hurry up and get to the point so he can continue his round of golf. 


 

Now that's making a pretty good turn for a old man

That article/source of information is the foundation for making speculations is it not?

 

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2 hours ago, UNC12345 said:

WTF?  How do you write this with a straight face (assuming)?  Do you honestly and legitimately believe that Donald Trump was going to straighten out that crazy little man, who has done unspeakable things and kept millions of North Koreans repressed and suffering for years? You really believe this?  And the Democrats just messed it all up? Wow.  

You are such a hypocrite.  Saying "shit" like the above comment and then saying you want a real debate?  C'mon man, your arrogance is off the charts!  I haven't been on here in awhile but it's great to see, in this messed up world right now, that some things are constant.

What was said is a true reflection of history,for you to deny the events that took place is a mind of abject malfeasance. 

Your statement does however tie into a narrative of half truths and rumor has It. A narrative of failure lacking any foundation of critical thinking. 

To that point I really would urge a "CHANGE" of leadership...strategy...direction. 

The boogey man is coming..Tik Tok Tik Tok Tic Tok.

 

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Now that's making a pretty good turn for a old man

That article/source of information is the foundation for making speculations is it not?

 

You were dragging your feet so Donald went with Fake News, Hunter Biden, and I didn't know nuffin. Like, you know it's over for Donald, right? Putin placed bounties on US troops and Donald rewarded him with an invite to Camp David. 


 

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2 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

You were dragging your feet so Donald went with Fake News, Hunter Biden, and I didn't know nuffin. Like, you know it's over for Donald, right? Putin placed bounties on US troops and Donald rewarded him with an invite to Camp David. 


 

Plenty of time for that..let us get to the matter at hand if you will or perhaps will not. Once again your source for making such inflammatory remarks...If you choose not to go there well then it is what it is..

As to the above Trump is correct....actually i do believe there is a Democratic operative highly placed in the US government...Clinton come to mind...now she did profit quite handsomely from  Russia..4 million so far...

Let us take one at time...Rumor has does get complicated..when trying to ferret out the truth

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47 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

You were dragging your feet so Donald went with Fake News, Hunter Biden, and I didn't know nuffin. Like, you know it's over for Donald, right? Putin placed bounties on US troops and Donald rewarded him with an invite to Camp David. 

So to be clear, Trump says this looks like Bullshit, smells like Bullshit but your complaint is he didn't eat it and say it tastes like Bullshit too? You're a real piece of work. Meanwhile my nephew, who was a ranger deployed to Afghanistan concurs that no one is getting killed on the US side, so if there was a lick of truth to your BS  masturbatory fantasy article, one would have to conclude the Russians aren't getting their money's worth. 

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by Ward Smith
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25 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

So to be clear, Trump says this looks like Bullshit, smells like Bullshit but you're complaint is he didn't eat it and say it tastes like Bullshit too? You're a real piece of work. Meanwhile my nephew, who was a ranger deployed to Afghanistan concurs that no one is getting killed on the US side, so if there was a lick of truth to your BS  masturbatory fantasy article, one would have to conclude the Russians aren't getting their money's worth. 

The Hill lays it out quite clearly....20 killed in Afghanistan during that yr is the operative word, supposedly referencing retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot..This may have serious repercussions for a few press organizations but for now it a full on attack on Trump...One could speculate Barr is in the process of making ready final indictments to the CrossFire Hurricane investigation...

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/504770-russian-intelligence-unit-offered-bounties-for-killing-coalition

Even Lindsay is walking on eggshells they have implicated Obama directly and want him to testify under oath....https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/lindsey-graham-obama-testimony-russia-258170

We are living in a very serious times....

Meanwhile back to the Sunday funnies...

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open

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7 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The Hill lays it out quite clearly....20 killed in Afghanistan, supposedly referencing retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot..This may have serious repercussions for a few press organizations but for now it a full on attack on Trump...One could speculate Barr is in the process of making ready final indictments to the CrossFire Hurricane investigation...

Even Lindsay is walking on eggshells they have implicated Obama directly and want him to testify under oath....https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/14/lindsey-graham-obama-testimony-russia-258170

We are living in a very serious times....

The Hill does no such thing. It quotes unnamed sources with "knowledge" from other sources who may or may not have been in the same room as something that may or may not have happened. That rag is useless. They'll be quoting off the men's bathroom stalls next, calling it gospel. 20 people dying over the course of a year in a warzone like Afghanistan can't be attributed to anything much less rumor mongers. 

Lindsey has the intestinal fortitude of Jello. Never expect anything from him. Like McCain before him, Lindsey figured out that if he wants face time on the national news, he only has to disagree with the Republican majority. The MSM laps that trick up, with the added bonus that they can pretend they've covered both sides of an issue, the DNC side and the one that agrees with the DNC. 

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If you deploy enough troops you will see fatalities even if the enemy doesn't do anything.

Transport accidents, training accidents, fights between soldiers, suicides, substance abuse issues, etc.

 

So both sides may be telling some form of the truth (no deaths have been attributed to the enemy, but there are still 20 dead)?  Who knows the real truth? Nobody.

 

Edited June 28, 2020 by Enthalpic

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On 6/26/2020 at 12:50 PM, Eyes Wide Open said:

  On 6/26/2020 at 10:25 AM, Zhong Lu said:

The election will be a referendum on Trump.  

Let's make a note of Zhong Lu's thoughtful observation, or projection(?), and revisit it in December, shall we?  If Donald Trump wins reelection, it will be a referendum on Trump, right Zhong xian-shen?

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16 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Ohh you are confused..Let us start from the top to gain a very simple understanding..

Russian Intel Unit offered Bounties for killing coalition troops in Afghanistan..

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/504770-russian-intelligence-unit-offered-bounties-for-killing-coalition

I assume we are on the same page here so as not have any misunderstandings....

Let's put some bold lettering on The Hill's "facts", shall we?  

A Russian military unit secretly sought to offer rewards to Taliban-linked militants to incentivize them to hunt and kill coalition forces in Afghanistan as the Trump administration engaged in peace talks to end the nearly two-decade long war, U.S. intelligence officials have reportedly concluded.

The New York Times, citing officials briefed on the matter, reported Friday that the U.S. intelligence apparatus has known for months about the alleged efforts of the Russian military intelligence unit, which reportedly provided rewards to militants for successful attacks last year.

U.S. troops were among the targeted coalition forces, according to the Times, which reported that some militants or associated entities are believed to have received reward money.

While 20 Americans died last year in combat in Afghanistan, it is unclear how many — or which specific cases — are linked to the killing bounties, the newspaper reported.

President Trump and other intelligence officials on the National Security Council reportedly discussed the matter in a meeting in late March, where they weighed a series of potential responses. However, no formal steps have been made, the Times reported.

The newspaper's sources said they were unclear why there has been a delay. The motivations of the Russian intelligence unit's alleged efforts are also unclear.

Some officials theorized the efforts could be to destabilize the West or take revenge for pro-Syria forces being killed when advancing on an American outpost in 2018, or keep the U.S. tied up in a war in Afghanistan by thwarting peace talks, according to the Times.

Still, such actions would mark a major escalation of Russian support of the Taliban and an attempt to turn violence onto coalition forces.

It would also mark an escalation of Russia's actions toward the U.S., following its efforts to sow discord during the 2016 U.S. presidential election, during which the Kremlin used disinformation campaigns on social media platforms and cyberattacks to amplify an already divisive race.

The Kremlin has not officially commented on the reports, saying that they will do so if they see the U.S. make accusations.

The Department of Defense and CIA declined to comment on the Times story. NSC and the State Department also declined to comment.

“We do not comment on alleged NSC internal deliberations," NSC spokesman John Ullyot told The Hill.

The officials described the intelligence to the Times as a “closely held secret,” but the small group with knowledge of the covert attack expanded this week after the British government, which was also targeted, was briefed on the matter. 

Discovery of Russia’s alleged actions also comes as the White House and the country grapples with a growing crisis from the coronavirus pandemic, with cases surging in a number of states.

The officials also told the Times they are unclear how high up orders went in the Russian government, but said it appears to be part of Russia’s military intelligence agency, the G.R.U., known as Unit 29155.

This unit reportedly is filled with highly experienced military officials, some dating back to the Soviet Union days, and their actions tend to be more violent than actions like cyberattacks. The unit is believed to be behind the poisoning of Sergei Skripal, a former G.R.U. officer who defected. Skripal and his daughter were poisoned with a nerve agent in England in 2018.

Trump has generally sought to maintain an accommodating relationship with Russia, including recently seeking to invite Russian President Vladimir Putin to an expanded meeting of the Group of 7 countries. He has also previously indicated that he believed Putin’s denial about interfering in the 2016 election, despite his own intelligence community’s conclusions.

Trump has long sought to bring an end to the war in Afghanistan, seeking to negotiate a peace agreement with the Taliban, particularly ahead of November’s presidential election.

 

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

So to be clear, Trump says this looks like Bullshit, smells like Bullshit but your complaint is he didn't eat it and say it tastes like Bullshit too? You're a real piece of work. Meanwhile my nephew, who was a ranger deployed to Afghanistan concurs that no one is getting killed on the US side, so if there was a lick of truth to your BS  masturbatory fantasy article, one would have to conclude the Russians aren't getting their money's worth. 

 

"Trump says..."

Yeah, hence...

 

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

The Hill lays it out quite clearly....20 killed in Afghanistan during that yr is the operative word, supposedly referencing retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot..This may have serious repercussions for a few press organizations but for now it a full on attack on Trump...One could speculate Barr is in the process of making ready final indictments to the CrossFire Hurricane investigation...

I think I understand what you're saying but I don't want to believe anyone can be that far gone. Retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot? Do you even America, bro. 

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22 minutes ago, BradleyPNW said:

I think I understand what you're saying but I don't want to believe anyone can be that far gone. Retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot? Do you even America, bro. 

The 200 Russians Killed were in Syria.  Please have a memory longer than that of a fly...

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2 hours ago, BradleyPNW said:

I think I understand what you're saying but I don't want to believe anyone can be that far gone. Retribution for 200 Russians caught in a bad spot? Do you even America, bro. 

A new avatar for you young man.....

Edited June 28, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open

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On 6/26/2020 at 4:53 PM, Ward Smith said:

Obama said there were 57 states, called military medical personnel corpse-men and numerous other gaffes, but he's a demoncrat so the media as always, gave him a pass. 

Referred to his wife 'Michael' a couple of times........

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   It is sad indeed when people repeat words written by specific sites and seemingly don't know or care that the candidate quickly corrected his own statement.    But that is the politics of the day - selective edit and then see how many are too "xyz" to perform basic research , aka find the original video, to learn that they are being conned.   

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2 hours ago, afisher456 said:

   It is sad indeed when people repeat words written by specific sites and seemingly don't know or care that the candidate quickly corrected his own statement.    But that is the politics of the day - selective edit and then see how many are too "xyz" to perform basic research , aka find the original video, to learn that they are being conned.   

Actually, in this case there was no selective editing.  The live PBS feed dropped as he was shaking his head... presumably to self correct himself.  IMO PBS knew he was going to massively gaf himself and were waiting with the dump button but screwed up and hit it too late. 

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2 hours ago, afisher456 said:

   It is sad indeed when people repeat words written by specific sites and seemingly don't know or care that the candidate quickly corrected his own statement.    But that is the politics of the day - selective edit and then see how many are too "xyz" to perform basic research , aka find the original video, to learn that they are being conned.   

Actually i concur with you, that all changed watching Muller go under peer review. Some say he was not himself, the man was dejected perhaps humiliated knowing he had been part of a politically orchestrated hit investigation.

What has happened to the media complex is beyond pale, objectivity has left the entire establishment. A one sided impeachment sources being hidden under questionable legal guise.... investigation methods hiding under Sovereign Immunity. 

Gentile ways are leaving the building, it is time to back down in the dirt.

[BradleyPNW + 282]

21 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

The 200 Russians Killed were in Syria.  Please have a memory longer than that of a fly...

Your comment has autism spectrum written all over it. You saw the words but didn't understand them. 

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On 6/26/2020 at 11:05 PM, Jan van Eck said:

I really don't see what the big hullabaloo is about Mr. Biden being senile.  Mental capacity is not a job requirement for being President of the USA; for example, I point to Mr. (Ronald) Reagan, who was profoundly incompetent for the last two years of his presidency  (and his wife Nancy effectively ran the White House, with the aid of her astrologer).   Seems to have worked, more or less.

What folks are missing, and especially here, is that the US Executive Branch is a gigantic bureaucracy, which runs along on its own steam like some lumbering ox.  There is very little that any President does or even could do to deflect it off its course, which is self-energizing.  Under US Law even the authority of the Executive to curtail specific programs or Departments is circumscribed by Congress; it has now limited (and effectively stopped) the ability of the President to do "Impoundment" of allocated funds, so when the Congress votes money for the bureaucrats, the Executive has little choice but to go spend it.  

Mr. Trump came on deck with the campaign platform and promise to "drain the swamp," by which was meant to curtail the bureaucracy.  The logical way to do that would be to shut down entire departments.  Precisely nothing has happened.  No bureaucrats have been sacked.  Federal staffing is just as large as before, and probably has increased, although nobody even really knows any more mow many people are on the Federal payroll.  That said, the numbers are staggeringly vast. 

And entire Federal programs are effectively funded with blank cheques.  The Congress votes a continuing resolution, say to fund an Aircraft Carrier over several years, or to fund social security for an indefinite time, and the bureaucracy decides how to administer that. Nobody stops working at fiscal year-end on that aircraft carrier: the workmen keep working, and the Navy keeps paying, and budget be damned. 

The more crucial elements in the next election contest, and after, is: who will get a stroke first?  Mr. Trump is over-weight, with a body mass index of at least 28, so he is a candidate for a stroke.  If it is big enough, and that is easy to imagine considering the stresses of the job, then he goes into forced retirement, and whomever is Vice President, presumably Mr. Pence, takes over.  That I view as an ominous prospect:  Mr. Pence actually knows how the Congress works and he can and will lead the USA into a path of sustained ultra-right-wing politics, and I shudder to think about where that leads the nation.  Pence will sacrifice your personal freedoms on his altar of State Control, which specifically will include Control over personal movement by the NSA and ancillary agencies. He can and will sacrifice your personal freedoms, and I see no effective check on that power, given that the Congress is totally sclerotic and has abdicated its role and authority. 

Meanwhile, It is apparent that Mr. Biden will be unable to effectively manage the Executive in any cognizable way. So then the question becomes: who will really be running things?  Who will be the "power behind the throne?"   And the answer to that is our old friend Hillary, and her Clintonites. She understands how the White House works, she understands how the Senate works (remember, she was a Senator from New York State), and she has Bill as her wing-man.  So it becomes another Clinton White House, minus the sex distractions this time around. 

And those are your prospects, folks.  Don't expect either Party to change course; is not going to happen. Your ship is on a collision course with history.

Jan, I think you have this totally backwards. You actually think that V.P. Pence would limit liberties when the exact opposite is true. He is a constitutionalist conservative fully endorsing and supporting our freedoms. The Demoncrats don't care much for our liberties. Most of them now want total control of the American people. All you have to do is look at how Obama and his crew took over the executive departments and immediately went after conservatives through the IRS, The Injustice Department including the FBI, and whatever they could through all departments and means. Obama also appointed unconstitutional overseers over each department. The congress and journalists were spied upon and the CIA installed employees at major newspapers and fed them with all sorts of information which the same people have continued to do. You seem to have little concern over these realities. 

For about four years President Trump has fought against the Deep State, 90%of the media, the universities and professors, the largest foundations, the crony capitalists, Hollywood, Silicon Valley, etc. They started attacking him after they decided he was a serious threat to their plans for globalism. I think you are a globalist and think that the elites should run the world. I consider you an elitist although I greatly respect you. I am a commoner and worked my way up to the upper half of the middle class from a very poor background. I thank God for President Trump and pray for his second term. 

One World Government AKA Globalism 

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8kNhtZJLuN66TpDuo67WBV1U2JhhZIvAefxeMNK0ls/edit

 

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22 hours ago, afisher456 said:

   It is sad indeed when people repeat words written by specific sites and seemingly don't know or care that the candidate quickly corrected his own statement.    But that is the politics of the day - selective edit and then see how many are too "xyz" to perform basic research , aka find the original video, to learn that they are being conned.   

Some truth in what you say but there are way too many videos to prove our point. Biden has early senile dementia that is very noticeable. Furthermore, your point is "the pot calling the kettle black". 

[ronwagn + 6,290]

On 6/28/2020 at 10:49 AM, BradleyPNW said:

You were dragging your feet so Donald went with Fake News, Hunter Biden, and I didn't know nuffin. Like, you know it's over for Donald, right? Putin placed bounties on US troops and Donald rewarded him with an invite to Camp David. 


 

All you need to know on Biden is here in Vetting Joe Biden

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19dWQ1ucBsPQyj0WuVMfXmr6DTTeG8TwKbVuWE9_Rswg/edit

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29 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

All you need to know on Biden is here in Vetting Joe Biden

https://docs.google.com/document/d/19dWQ1ucBsPQyj0WuVMfXmr6DTTeG8TwKbVuWE9_Rswg/edit

I have several policy differences with Joe. However, he isn't a fetid douche like Donald so Joe has my vote.