California to mandate solar on new homes

[Joanna + 68]

California will soon become the first state to require all new homes be built with solar panels. Most new homes built after Jan. 1, 2020, will be required to include solar systems as part of energy-efficiency standards adopted Wednesday by the California Energy Commission. 

[JohnAtronis + 77]

but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000

[李伟王芳 + 77]

1 minute ago, JohnAtronis said:

but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000

Solar shares surged upon the decision, while homebuilders fell, but it is settle down. It is necessary step

[Nigerian Price + 22]

solar should be heavily subsidized. Leave fossil with nothing

[Hajga Loma DK + 47]

solar powered panels on roofs was the number one upgrade was for all new homes in the last year. Why are we still talking about oil

[Cokiga Damke + 53]

Solar may soon become the only means of generating electricity.

[Meanwhile + 49]

Meanwhile, Midwestern states are working on legislation that will mandate coal burners in new homes.

[JohnAtronis + 77]

15 minutes ago, Joanna said:

California will soon become the first state to require all new homes be built with solar panels. Most new homes built after Jan. 1, 2020, will be required to include solar systems as part of energy-efficiency standards adopted Wednesday by the California Energy Commission. 

with housing prices driven up California will solidify it's spot at the homeless capital of the nation.

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2 minutes ago, JohnAtronis said:

with housing prices driven up California will solidify it's spot at the homeless capital of the nation.

thats called the free market. You should step out of Barnsville sometimes 

[Cokiga Damke + 53]

So at $12,000...$80 a month energy savings...it'll break even after 12.5 years. That's right about the time panels will have to be replaced as their efficiency has dropped 33%.

[李伟王芳 + 77]

actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus

[Cokiga Damke + 53]

1 minute ago, 李伟王芳 said:

actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus

Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof.

[ronwagn + 2,223]

Californians pay far more for their "clean energy" than any other state in the union. The costs keep going higher all the time. $440,000 now. 

Solar panels should be a choice. They are ugly and the savings are minimal if you figure the interest you will pay on purchasing them. https://www.electricitylocal.com/states/california//

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[Andrew Berselli + 1]

Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices.

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4 minutes ago, Andrew Berselli said:

Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices.

That's not necessarily bad news. I mean, if you are California government, I suppose it is. Look, California's home prices and tax structure and whatever have caused it to be one of the top five states for losing people to other states. Guess where they're going? Texas. No surprises here. California would like the rest of the world to think that all its residents share its earthy-crunchy values. Okay, maybe some do, but that doesn't mean its residents can afford to live those ideals. My daughter doesn't like the idea of killing animals for food. Nevertheless, her ideals quickly vanish when presented with a burger. Californians talk a good game, that's all. Few are willing to make the sacrifices to make this world a greener place.  Cows are super cute. Burgers are super yummy. Life is a series of tough choices. 

 

[Refman + 181]

I'm not in California, but I'm getting solar panels in a couple of weeks. Can't wait to see how well they work. 

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On ‎5‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 6:05 AM, JohnAtronis said:

but will drive up the cost of buying a house by almost $10,000

that's mere 1% of a Californian home...

This will only intensify exodus from the state and potentially exacerbate duck curve issue, unless houses forced to consume during peak production (plausible, for AC - provided solar is not oversized).  

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On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 3:27 PM, 李伟王芳 said:

actually the average generation capacity of modern panels is more like 20-25 years and with multi junction versions they estimate 40 years plus

And we know this because 'modern' panels have been around for 20-25 years?  Color me cynical.

On ‎5‎/‎9‎/‎2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said:

Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof.

I don't live there, so not sure how often CA needs to worry about hail storm.

[Scotsman + 14]

They just officially mandated this ....

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On 5/10/2018 at 4:29 AM, Cokiga Damke said:

Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof.

^  Yep.

[Refman + 181]

On 5/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said:

Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof.

Tell your insurance about the panels to make sure they're covered under your Home Owners Insurance policy. Anything hard enough to wreck the panels will probably wreck the roof as well.

 

[Cokiga Damke + 53]

16 hours ago, Refman said:

Tell your insurance about the panels to make sure they're covered under your Home Owners Insurance policy. Anything hard enough to wreck the panels will probably wreck the roof as well.

 

a bit of wind leaves me with no power as well, so I don't think solar is fragile as they claim

[JohnAtronis + 77]

On 5/16/2018 at 4:15 PM, Andrew Berselli said:

Bad news, people are leaving California thanks for bad government choices.

to become homeless capital

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On 5/9/2018 at 3:29 PM, Cokiga Damke said:

Maybe in household appliances. Solar panel don't have that lifespan. One good hail storm and you've got a wrecked solar roof.

Nope. 25 year warranties have been in play for years. Grapefruit sized hail isn’t a problem. Efficiencies do drop, but panels from the 70s are working today.