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[BLA + 1,666]

 

 

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Edited October 12, 2020 by BLA

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

"U.S. has lower death rate per capita then ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES except Germany."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sort by deaths/1M you will see several other European nations that have lower death rates.

[crazy trip + 90]

13 hours ago, BLA said:

New York and Massachusetts were provided and built emergency hospital beds in their convention centers . . . and did not use them.  Instead they directed the infirmed elderly CV19 patients be moved  to Nursing Homes to reward those Nursing Home Operators for gubernatorial campaign contributions.

The quarantine quelled the virus.  But it's still there when you open up.

New York and Massachusetts have cycled thru the virus.  They have achieved significant herd immunity.  No thanks to the Gov's efforts.  

Arizona has peaked.  Looks like Texas might have peaked last week. .  The South is about 2 months behind NY/Mass and will report great numbers in two months.

 

 Not only did KC, (Killer Cuomo) send known Covid + people into our nursing homes, arguably causing the death of many thousands of our very vulnerable elderly in our state, he sent UNTESTED trainee prison guards, from NYC into our upstate prisons until the first week in April 2020. Many many weeks after he was enforcing his    totalitarian measures on the rest of us.

 Draw your own conclusions as to his mental prowess or more to the point, his real intent in knowingly and criminally (according to his own executive orders) spreading this virus.

 

Edited July 22, 2020 by crazy trip

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

16 hours ago, BLA said:

New York and Massachusetts were provided and built emergency hospital beds in their convention centers . . . and did not use them.  Instead they directed the infirmed elderly CV19 patients be moved  to Nursing Homes to reward those Nursing Home Operators for gubernatorial campaign contributions.

The quarantine quelled the virus.  But it's still there when you open up.

New York and Massachusetts have cycled thru the virus.  They have achieved significant herd immunity.  No thanks to the Gov's efforts.  

Arizona has peaked.  Looks like Texas might have peaked last week. .  The South is about 2 months behind NY/Mass and will report great numbers in two months.

 

You are copy-pasting obsolete lies. Your cult leader had a press conference meanwhile where he performed yet another U-turn and is now admitting the seriousness of the situation. 

Please update your lie database. Thank you.

Meanwhile, in Texas, hospital beds are full, ambulances waiting in traffic jams have nowhere to drop off patients needing care, cowardly governor Abbot who was recently saying that "American senior citizens would not be so selfish as to put their own survival over the prosperity of the USA" is refusing to take responsibility. It's a total and unmitigated disaster. Hear about it yourself from a former Texas congressman:

 

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,129]

Last I checked, a pandemic to be called a pandemic had to kill off the young and healthy.  This Virus does not.  It is a wore virus than normal which affects old people worse than normal...   Ok Boomers, for the first time in your lives you have been called on to man up and think of someone other than your fat lazy asses and put your children and grandchildren first(so, let them go back to school/work and quartine your ancient asses)  Boomers answer: Fuck our Children/Grand Children, we matter. 

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

5 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Last I checked, a pandemic to be called a pandemic had to kill off the young and healthy.  This Virus does not.  It is a wore virus than normal which affects old people worse than normal...   Ok Boomers, for the first time in your lives you have been called on to man up and think of someone other than your fat lazy asses and put your children and grandchildren first(so, let them go back to school/work and quartine your ancient asses)  Boomers answer: Fuck our Children/Grand Children, we matter. 

What? And when was the "last time you checked"? In January? Of course it also kills young and healthy. Do you think that all the healthcare staff that died to it were old people in their sixties and seventies? The Chinese doctor that first warned about the virus (and died to it later) was 34. Whether you die or not depend heavily on viral load, existing comorbidities and other factors. In the US, where 60 percent of population is obese, the mortality hits much younger people. 

https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/04/13/covid-young-people

In children specifically, the virus causes "multisystem inflamantory syndrome" with very poor prognoses overall

https://www.2minutemedicine.com/multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-in-sars-cov-2-infected-children-has-poor-outcomes/

So please, check again, update your databases, and don't spread dangerous misinformation anymore. 

Edited July 22, 2020 by Yoshiro Kamamura

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,129]

10 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

In children specifically, the virus causes "multisystem inflamantory syndrome" with very poor prognoses overall

https://www.2minutemedicine.com/multisystem-inflammatory-syndrome-in-sars-cov-2-infected-children-has-poor-outcomes/

Can you read???  Or do you just throw shit on a wall and expect everyone else is blind like you?

SARS, not Covid, WAS a pandemic specifically because IT AFFECTED CHILDREN!  Covid is NOT SARS.  We have hundreds of thousands of children with Covid.  Their hospitalization rate is lower than that of of the common Flu... 

FROM CDC: https://data.cdc.gov/NCHS/Provisional-COVID-19-Death-Counts-by-Sex-Age-and-S/9bhg-hcku 

This year alone has seen all of 36 deaths from Covid from children, yet the COMMON FLU, has 100...  Under 25 it is 225 for COvid and 160 From the COMMON FLU  and this is a LOW flu year.  If one compares past FLU years to this year with COVID, deaths for under 25 are ~identical.  Pneumonia has 500 dead in under 25 age group.  We did not shut down the world over them.  Under 45?  More die due to Pneumonia than Covid.  Under 55?  Still more die due to Pneumonia than Covid...  Pneumonia is highly contagious.  No one is screaming about contact tracing with Pneumonia.  It has same droplet problems as Covid...

Yet, for Covid, we shut down the world... Insane.

Edited July 22, 2020 by footeab@yahoo.com

[ronwagn + 6,290]

On 7/21/2020 at 6:20 AM, BLA said:

New York and Massachusetts were provided and built emergency hospital beds in their convention centers . . . and did not use them.  Instead they directed the infirmed elderly CV19 patients be moved  to Nursing Homes to reward those Nursing Home Operators for gubernatorial campaign contributions.

The quarantine quelled the virus.  But it's still there when you open up.

New York and Massachusetts have cycled thru the virus.  They have achieved significant herd immunity.  No thanks to the Gov's efforts.  

Arizona has peaked.  Looks like Texas might have peaked last week. .  The South is about 2 months behind NY/Mass and will report great numbers in two months.

NANCY PELOSI SAYS THE CORONAVIROUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA.  SCARY !

 

We are near the end of our epidemic. Not the end of the end though. Two thirds of the deaths came from a very small area from Boston to D.C. plus Chicago and Detroit. All Demoncrat run states and cities! This is begging to be pointed out but you know the mainstream media. They want to focus on much smaller numbers in Arizona, Florida, and Teas. They also want to focus on testing, which means next to nothing. It took my wife 11 days to get results on her test from CVS. She could have been dead by then, but they had to test everyone possible. What a dumb ass scam. 

Here is all the best recent info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MXY8T0j7k0oUBsHW4BfjJM__DRIyzqrDf_FSlV4hHpw/edit

[ronwagn + 6,290]

On 7/21/2020 at 6:55 PM, Enthalpic said:

"U.S. has lower death rate per capita then ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES except Germany."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sort by deaths/1M you will see several other European nations that have lower death rates.

I meant to say major countries. Small isolated European countries have better results. 

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

2 hours ago, ronwagn said:

I meant to say major countries. Small isolated European countries have better results. 

Huh? Are you also BLA?

Edited July 23, 2020 by Enthalpic

[Dmitry Bedin + 25]

On 7/21/2020 at 1:20 PM, BLA said:

New York and Massachusetts were provided and built emergency hospital beds in their convention centers . . . and did not use them.  Instead they directed the infirmed elderly CV19 patients be moved  to Nursing Homes to reward those Nursing Home Operators for gubernatorial campaign contributions.

The quarantine quelled the virus.  But it's still there when you open up.

New York and Massachusetts have cycled thru the virus.  They have achieved significant herd immunity.  No thanks to the Gov's efforts.  

Arizona has peaked.  Looks like Texas might have peaked last week. .  The South is about 2 months behind NY/Mass and will report great numbers in two months.

NANCY PELOSI SAYS THE CORONAVIROUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA.  SCARY !

 

US is in 11th place in the World Deaths/1M pop. So, the best medical system, the best ever dump mango president and so far 11th. But dumpest ppl in the world still have antimask ussue. The World is keep watching on us’s epic fail. Meanwhile im long QLD from March😎

in the usa - being stupid is preexisted condition. Soon we ll see 2k deaths daily and Trump will advise drink bleach again.😛

 

Edited July 23, 2020 by Dmitry Bedin

[0R0 + 6,251]

On 7/21/2020 at 7:55 PM, Enthalpic said:

"U.S. has lower death rate per capita then ALL EUROPEAN COUNTRIES except Germany."

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Sort by deaths/1M you will see several other European nations that have lower death rates.

Major European countries. If NYC didn't follow in Italy's footsteps to stuff infected people into nursing homes then the numbers would have been 40k fewer.

[Marcin2 + 724]

Highest death rates per capita:

San Marino

Belgium

UK 

Andorra

Spain

Italy

Sweden

Peru

Chile

France

US

Brazil

Netherlands

with current death rates US will exceed death rate per capita of:

France in 5 days

Sweden and Italy 35 days

Spain in 45 days.

In mid September 2020 US will be only Second to UK in death rates among developed major countries.

( I do not  categorize: Mexico Brazil as developed  countries , they would have higher death rates)

 

 

Edited July 25, 2020 by Marcin2
Typo

[Marcin2 + 724]

Most popular cause of death in US in 2020: PARTISANSHIP.

I think that most Covid deaths were due to this illness.

Epidemic is here with us for over half a year yet a country with largest Health budget nominal and per capita cannot cope with the problem.

Fortunately this forum , US and world in general would be much more quiet place in 100 days.

Edited July 25, 2020 by Marcin2
Typo

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

58 minutes ago, Marcin2 said:

Most popular cause of death in US in 2020: PARTISANSHIP.

I think that most Covid deaths were due to this illness.

Epidemic is here with us for over half a year yet a country with largest Health budget nominal and per capita cannot cope with the problem.

Fortunately this forum , US and world in general would be much more quiet place in 100 days.

Good observation. The countries that politicized the coronavirus response are the one that are doing the worst (USA, UK, Brazil, Sweden, Russia), because people do not apply critical thinking to political/religious issues (tribal wars are strictly "us or them", and everything the opposing tribe does is always wrong), so if leftie snowflakes say masks could help, no rightwing patriot will ever touch a mask even with cold, dead fingers, and vice versa. However, if you have large enough group that sabotages the collective effort and spreads the virus freely, the whole country cannot progress with the collective response (i.e. flatten the curve, get outbreaks under surveillance/control, starve the virus, etc.)

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

On 7/22/2020 at 6:25 AM, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

Do you think that all the healthcare staff that died to it were old people in their sixties and seventies? The Chinese doctor that first warned about the virus (and died to it later) was 34.

Everyone knows that doctor was murdered. The Chinese still talk about it, not where you are of course, since they would get "disappeared". Turns out the majority of hospitalized deaths can be attributed to ventilator abuse. They've learned a ton about how not to intubate patients and merely putting them on their stomaches versus backs has dropped mortality by 90%, who knew common sense could prevail? 

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

On 7/23/2020 at 2:42 AM, ronwagn said:

We are near the end of our epidemic. Not the end of the end though. Two thirds of the deaths came from a very small area from Boston to D.C. plus Chicago and Detroit. All Demoncrat run states and cities! This is begging to be pointed out but you know the mainstream media. They want to focus on much smaller numbers in Arizona, Florida, and Teas. They also want to focus on testing, which means next to nothing. It took my wife 11 days to get results on her test from CVS. She could have been dead by then, but they had to test everyone possible. What a dumb ass scam. 

Here is all the best recent info

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MXY8T0j7k0oUBsHW4BfjJM__DRIyzqrDf_FSlV4hHpw/edit

This "research" is pure gold. All those cherry-picked, doctored data, carefully compiled from obscure blogs and "alternative" sources, and yet so obviously and blatantly wrong in your conclusions. 

Being a good, obedient Trump follower, you spared no effort to compile this "neat" report on Thursday only to see your Leader totally making a laughingstock out of himself in his interview with Chris Wallace from FoxNews (I mean FoxNews, not the "bad, fake librul media", but FoxNews) where he tried to say what you say that "America has done a tremendous job, best mortality rate in the world (he even waved a freshly printed paper with just 3 country names as a proof, pure comedy), epidemic is ending", but was confronted with facts and lost, he also tried to perpetuate the myth that "Biden wants to defund the police", a nonsense I have seen republicans parroting here, he was again confronted by facts and lost, he nailed his coffin by bragging how he "aced the cognitive test" (for senile people), and as a result, his ratings plummeted (even his cultists are waking up), and so on Tuesday, he made a 180 degree turn and started doing his "daily emergency coronavirus reports" again, admitting the situation is serious, and will be worse before it improves, and that maximum effort must be made to combat the epidemic. 

But wait - now your leader is saying the very opposite thing than you do. Before it was:

The official statistics + Fauci's opinion (situation is bad) versus Trump and his followers + ronwagn and his "analysis" (it is over)

But since Trump's U-turn on Tuesday, it's suddenly:

The official statistics + Fauci's opinion + Trump + his up-to-date followers versus ronwagn + his "analysis" + out of touch followers

And no wonder - the reports from Texas are that the hospital beds are on capacity, ambulances do not have where to drop acute patients, people sick with COVID19 are at home with proper care, regular medical care and preventive care is postponed/difficult to access. President Trump announced at a White House briefing on Thursday that he instructed his team to cancel the Jacksonville, Florida, portion of the Republican convention amid a worsening coronavirus outbreak in the state. Does not sound like the epidemic is "near the end", right?

Whoa, that does not look good for your side! What will you do? Will you oppose both the official stats, actual medical professionals' opinion (Fauci, but also countless other epidemiologists, virologists and expert from around the world) and your Leader all and stand alone, or will you also do a 180 degree turn, and in the best Trump style say that "I know, and you know, and everybody knows that the coronavirus situation is serious, the number of cases is rising and the end is nowhere in sight - and I have never said otherwise, many people did, but not me. It's all China's fault, after all."

I wonder... 

By the way, do you know what is the reason between children playing they are scientists, looking into plastic "microscopes", pouring soda into tubes and mix them, and pretending to write scientific papers and reports, and actual scientists?

The actual scientists has to use the scientific method. That means (among other things) they must respect every new facts, not just those cherry-picked ones that support their theory, and if newly discovered facts contradict their theory, they have to mercilessly scrap their theory and start again. No true scientist/analyst/researcher ever ignores uncomfortable facts by trying to sweep them under the carpet by underhanded means. ("Those are librul facts, I have my own facts", "I don't watch official media", "Official science is rigged, I believe only to Hannity and Limbaugh", "The truth is out there, but only somewhere, look, I will show you", "I don't care about the so called scientific community, they all use hockey graphs", "One scientist tried to cheat once, hence no scientist can ever be believed", "Facts have liberal bias, I don't like liberal bias", "Climate change is a Chinese hoax", "Evolution theory is a communist attack on the only True Faith"). 

So... better luck next time? And try not to lag behind your leader too much, he has been making some wild turns recently, be a little late to turn as well, and you may end up under the wheels of his chariot - or in a dark cell with beaten buy unmarked, masked federal operatives. 

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

19 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Everyone knows that doctor was murdered. The Chinese still talk about it, not where you are of course, since they would get "disappeared". Turns out the majority of hospitalized deaths can be attributed to ventilator abuse. They've learned a ton about how not to intubate patients and merely putting them on their stomaches versus backs has dropped mortality by 90%, who knew common sense could prevail? 

"Everyone knows that doctor was murdered." - No, everybody certainly does not "know" that. On the contrary, it's sounds like a wild speculation. It's of course not impossible, but it's quite unclear what would anyone achieve by murdering him AFTER Chinese officially informed WHO about the existence and origin of the virus (that happened on 31th of December 2019). But maybe Russians murdered him, or maybe CIA, who knows, maybe he was murdered by a street thug, or maybe (but pssst!), maybe he really did die from Covid 19! He would not be alone hospital staff in countries with overwhelmed healthcare system (Brazil, USA, UK) die frequently, and those are often young, healthy people. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/covid-19-coronavirus-healthcare-workers-deaths

Healthcare workers are not the only young people who die from COVID 19 - here is a case of a 30 years old, healthy male who got infected on a "COVID party" organized to prove the virus is a hoax and died after saying that attending the party was "probably a mistake". Jane Appleby, doctor from the hospital that was taking care of him stated they are treating other COVID 19 patients in their 20s and 30s who are “severely ill,” There are even documented cases of "sudden multiple organ failure" resulting in death in teenagers and small children. I have read even about a 2 years old baby who died from COVID 19. And although you are correct that overuse of ventilators can lower the patients' chance of recovery, something must be done when the patient is unable to stay alive on his own. 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party

I have never read about how 90% of the mortality can be achieved just by turning patients to their stomach, it seems again like a wild hoax, and what my "common sense" tells me that if you turn and old, immobile person face down, you can suffocate him. In any case, if such easy, simple ways to reduce mortality would exist, it would have been already implemented everywhere. 

So no matter how you try to downplay Covid 19 number of deaths, or mortality rate, the official numbers are probably an underestimation, not overestimation of the true number of Covid 19 deaths, because almost 40 percent Americans do not have health insurance and they cannot or fear to go to a hospital due to excessive costs and die at home, often alone, never entering the official statistics. It's also not "just a flu" - it's a dangerous, not yet fully understood disease that can kill or permanently cripple anyone for life. 

[ratatosk + 7]

On 7/22/2020 at 9:59 AM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Last I checked, a pandemic to be called a pandemic had to kill off the young and healthy.  This Virus does not.  It is a wore virus than normal which affects old people worse than normal...   Ok Boomers, for the first time in your lives you have been called on to man up and think of someone other than your fat lazy asses and put your children and grandchildren first(so, let them go back to school/work and quartine your ancient asses)  Boomers answer: Fuck our Children/Grand Children, we matter. 

I think the problem is here not understanding the simple old greek word pandemic. It means, that is overall (on the world in our times). It has nothing to do with old or young. A further problem is, that the way a transmission happens in populations is not realy understand from footeab i fear. The language used is not helpful to discuss anything, it only shows many things about character. Many things are unclear yet, so everybudy can have different standings, but in usa it is a problem to discuss anything in an good style. The hole country is deeply divided and a person with on other opinion is an enemy and not only a person with on other opinion !

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,129]

3 hours ago, ratatosk said:

I think the problem is here not understanding the simple old greek word pandemic. It means, that is overall (on the world in our times). It has nothing to do with old or young. A further problem is, that the way a transmission happens in populations is not realy understand from footeab i fear. The language used is not helpful to discuss anything, it only shows many things about character. Many things are unclear yet, so everybudy can have different standings, but in usa it is a problem to discuss anything in an good style. The hole country is deeply divided and a person with on other opinion is an enemy and not only a person with on other opinion !

The word pandemic as used by medical people, not dingbats looking up Websters Dictionary, that a pandemic is when it is widespread where it affects young and old alike to distinguish itself from just common bugs which already go around the globe every year.  No one is crying about the common FLU or Pneumonia "pandemic" every year even though by your idiot definition, they qualify and we should shut the world down because of them.  Pneumonia has still killed more this year than Covid has and it is HIGHLY contagious and communicable.  Hiding from basic logic and pretending roses and butterflies gets anything accomplished.  For the first time in Boomers pampered lives, they(we) have been asked to sacrifice for our children/grandchildren.  Their answer: A big ol' FU.  Talk numbers.  Under 45 Covid is acting just like any other Flu, but slightly worse than normal.  Gets more deadly for those over 45.  

My generation has to be the most arrogant narcisstic pampered assholes the world has ever known.  No wonder out children/granchildren use the term "OK boomer"

[ratatosk + 7]

Its ok, when you have to in websters dictionary, we have learned that in a normal european state gymnasium and we have learned to discuss a topic. You were not able to answer to the points,but thats ok.

So i understand better the problems in usa, everybody only repeats his opinion and tells strange numbers. The flu deads 2019 were fare under covid, but it makes no sense to discuss with persons, who don`t realy want to discuss.

When people don`t want to learn from each other, they ever lose. We have learned many things from the usa, but i fear, the usa think, they know all better and are the best, blessed personally from god ! oh my god !

Choke on the side, what god for what church ? you have realy very much churches and any of them is the only right.

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

50 minutes ago, ratatosk said:

When people don`t want to learn from each other, they ever lose. We have learned many things from the usa, but i fear, the usa think, they know all better and are the best, blessed personally from god ! oh my god !

Choke on the side, what god for what church ? you have realy very much churches and any of them is the only right.

Could you run that back thru the translator? Lost in translation

[0R0 + 6,251]

7 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

Highest death rates per capita:

San Marino

Belgium

UK 

Andorra

Spain

Italy

Sweden

Peru

Chile

France

US

Brazil

Netherlands

with current death rates US will exceed death rate per capita of:

France in 5 days

Sweden and Italy 35 days

Spain in 45 days.

In mid September 2020 US will be only Second to UK in death rates among developed major countries.

( I do not  categorize: Mexico Brazil as developed  countries , they would have higher death rates)

 

 

Deaths Not likely to increase further. Decline in confirmed symptomatic infection has already started in the current epicenter states.

CFR is falling still. positivity peaked as well, and will likely follow the Northern pattern of falling steeply as herd immunity among the socially active population halts the virus.

 

[ratatosk + 7]

I hope, this is a better translation

If people don't want to learn from each other, they always lose.
 We used to learn a lot from the United States, but I'm afraid 
the United States really thinks today, they know everything better
 and are the best, personally blessed by God! Oh my God !

As a joke, which god for which church? 
The usa really has a lot of churches and each of them is the only right one.

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

5 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

"Everyone knows that doctor was murdered." - No, everybody certainly does not "know" that. On the contrary, it's sounds like a wild speculation. It's of course not impossible, but it's quite unclear what would anyone achieve by murdering him AFTER Chinese officially informed WHO about the existence and origin of the virus (that happened on 31th of December 2019). But maybe Russians murdered him, or maybe CIA, who knows, maybe he was murdered by a street thug, or maybe (but pssst!), maybe he really did die from Covid 19! He would not be alone hospital staff in countries with overwhelmed healthcare system (Brazil, USA, UK) die frequently, and those are often young, healthy people. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/17/covid-19-coronavirus-healthcare-workers-deaths

Healthcare workers are not the only young people who die from COVID 19 - here is a case of a 30 years old, healthy male who got infected on a "COVID party" organized to prove the virus is a hoax and died after saying that attending the party was "probably a mistake". Jane Appleby, doctor from the hospital that was taking care of him stated they are treating other COVID 19 patients in their 20s and 30s who are “severely ill,” There are even documented cases of "sudden multiple organ failure" resulting in death in teenagers and small children. I have read even about a 2 years old baby who died from COVID 19. And although you are correct that overuse of ventilators can lower the patients' chance of recovery, something must be done when the patient is unable to stay alive on his own. 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-hospital-died-covid-party

I have never read about how 90% of the mortality can be achieved just by turning patients to their stomach, it seems again like a wild hoax, and what my "common sense" tells me that if you turn and old, immobile person face down, you can suffocate him. In any case, if such easy, simple ways to reduce mortality would exist, it would have been already implemented everywhere. 

So no matter how you try to downplay Covid 19 number of deaths, or mortality rate, the official numbers are probably an underestimation, not overestimation of the true number of Covid 19 deaths, because almost 40 percent Americans do not have health insurance and they cannot or fear to go to a hospital due to excessive costs and die at home, often alone, never entering the official statistics. It's also not "just a flu" - it's a dangerous, not yet fully understood disease that can kill or permanently cripple anyone for life. 

Doctor murdered. Surely a card carrying CCP wumaodang like yourself understands how this is done? The CCP can not allow a man who is a hero to the population, and is receiving Millions of followers and accolades on Weibo and Line to walk the streets ever again. He was dead from the moment he got too much attention. You can pretend I've got to find the smoking gun (probably a needle) but I'm not going to bother to look. His coworkers who did have likewise died "unnaturally" because your beloved CCP operates exactly like the Mafia did at their worst. Witnesses die, evidence disappears, everyone else is intimidated into submission. 

Children didn't die before Covid? Do tell. Statistically this is barely a blip on the radar. I've proven countless times here that deaths were falsely attributed to Covid, with evidence, and you, with no evidence pretend the number should be higher? Interesting ruler you use there. It might be more accurate if it were straight, don't you think? 

The mortality number might be published eventually. You're obviously not a medical person. All I know is what the doctors who are are telling me. Their guidelines say put the patient on their stomachs. The death rate of those hospitalized with this has been dropping, especially where they've seen it before. Podunk Iowa isn't doing so well, they keep making the old mistakes and aren't keeping up with the new treatment protocols.