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U.S. Presidential Elections Status - Electoral Votes

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3 hours ago, Jan van Eck said:

 

What you see on display here is an act of brutal murder, not the first for the Capitol Police. 

You break into my place you will be shot and it won't be murder.

Those machine guns should have been firing to teach small groups you can't overthrow the USA!

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I don’t believe machine guns in groups of any size makes any sense unless your at a gun range for entertainment. You guys sound like Muslim extreamists in the Middle East that thinks their views superceade the rule of law. 
I like my guns but I do not try to sway opinion with a gun at a NASCAR race with 160,000 fans. 
When Jeff Gordon was getting death threats when he was winning championships it would have been not smart to create a Gordon Gang armed with machine guns and search the crowd for possible potential killers. 

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Easy fellas. 

Are we all possibly being lured under a divide and conquer manipulation of some sort?  As far as I can tell, none of us here are major players in any of the activities currently being discussed and as such are at each other's throats over the actions of much more powerful geopolitical players, and the participation, willingly or unwillingly, of a fair number of otherwise good people getting caught up in the same manipulation.  If in fact that is what it is.

I respectfully ask that everyone join me in toning down the rhetoric here.  Nothing wrong with sharing observations and information that we see, but there is no need to assassinate each other over the actions of others.

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Hitler would not be able to raise to his power and consolidated it without the support of Germany's mainstream media domestically , whose the primary income back then came from the number of copies sold, remember that. Mainstream in any country in history has never been against dictatorship (yes, sometimes the dictator or his party does allow to publish something negative about them but not on daily basics).

Institutions has not been changed fast enough to catch up with faster and faster changes of the world and local western governments are useless against multinational techno-capitalism (China can be view as one of them) and therefor, they rather jump on the stronger side. The only reason the freedom of speech in constitution is to ensure people have some chance against brainwash and propaganda. Why should the presses or Parties can have more freedom of speech than the People?

The only temp solution for a more transparency for government is to have a cap on number of year a person can be a politician, like 12 years max. Ideally they would have to prove their values after college graduation for at least 10 years before they can be a politician, not just by going around and tell people who suffering they are victim and build the hate on them to start a job as a politician and earn money.

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Vatican and Pakistan shrouded in darkness as power outage lasts through many hours overnight. 

US operations would be ongoing. The fact that the rest of Italy is left alone probably means there is Italian official cooperation. Pakistan was a node on the Dominion data flow network. Pakistan is a Chinese client. The vatican bank seems to have been where Obama stashed the Iran headed money he embezzled, it was also where apparently some serious assets and cash remained in the hands of some of the old money that Trump had taken out according to the Q narrative. I am assuming they are after evidence and particular people. Didn't expect taking out the electric power was that easy on a large scale like Pakistan where the entire country was in the dark

 

https://insiderpaper.com/vatican-blackout-reports/  

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7 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

 

JP is so funny!

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4 hours ago, 0R0 said:

Vatican and Pakistan shrouded in darkness as power outage lasts through many hours overnight. 

US operations would be ongoing. The fact that the rest of Italy is left alone probably means there is Italian official cooperation. Pakistan was a node on the Dominion data flow network. Pakistan is a Chinese client. The vatican bank seems to have been where Obama stashed the Iran headed money he embezzled, it was also where apparently some serious assets and cash remained in the hands of some of the old money that Trump had taken out according to the Q narrative. I am assuming they are after evidence and particular people. Didn't expect taking out the electric power was that easy on a large scale like Pakistan where the entire country was in the dark

 

https://insiderpaper.com/vatican-blackout-reports/  

Blackout in Vatican? What?? In the 'blackout' and 'normal' comparison pic in the article, and in the live video itself, you can literally see the lights were still on!! Its those white orbs! There's no blackout! So either the livestream camera auto exposure setting just changed/glitched for a while, or even that blackout/normal comparison is deliberately misleading - because if you look at the video the normal night view looks rather like later on in the video when daylight is approaching. Hmmm.

And this means a military operation is ongoing?? Siiiigh. The imaginations of some folk is amazing!

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2 hours ago, 0R0 said:

Great!  Thanks.

Still no word from the President, though?  Well, if all of this is moving, I guess he's even more busy than he normally is, and that would be BUSY!!

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The following link actually came from @Tomasz on another thread which he started, called:  The impact of oil and gas prices on the Russian budget over the past few years.  And, although the article at the link was actually written on November 6th, it is rich with projections that became reality in the weeks after, or at least entertain such thoughts.

Market Friday: Civil War It is Then

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It is one thing to know your opponents have no soul. It is quite another to watch in real time their depravity play out with gleeful disdain.

Anyone saying that what is happening right now in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan etc. is not a conscious effort to rig an election is either a victim of propaganda or being willfully obtuse.

Because they told us this is what would happen. Through the Transition Integrity Project and bread crumbs left throughout the campaign, we knew it would come to this.

For weeks I’ve been saying I hope Trump’s performance is strong enough and his coattails long enough to preclude the Democrats and The Davos Crowd from trying to pull off the theft of the election.

That they would see the magnitude of the problem in front of them and be stopped short by little things like math.

And then realize that even if they did try and cheat it would be so transparent that nothing good for them would be gained by it. But they didn’t listen.

Trump almost pulled it off. His numbers across the board were excellent, stunning even given everything that’s happened.

He may yet pull this out and I support any and all efforts to do so, but it is looking quite grim today.

The potential is there for the Republicans to pick up as many as twelve seats in the House while holding the Senate if not picking up a seat, depending on how the courts rule on the already well-documented fraud.

Coattails that long are prima facia evidence that what’s happening with the presidential election is fraud. I won’t go into the list of red flags here, others have done a far better job (and are, frankly, more entertaining), but they are big enough and red enough to get even the laziest, porn-besotted bull in the world angry.

And that’s what should be scaring the crap out of everyone on ‘the Left’ today. Because as we heard yesterday, with coattails that long and the amount of obscene behavior on display, the remaining members of the Democratic caucus in the House are scared… and not just for their political lives.

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Speaker Nancy Pelosi was in damage-control mode, saying “but we held the House” — which they were supposed to expand their majority in — and are “on track to win the presidency,” which no one will take even remotely seriously.

I’ve had visions of seeing Pelosi dragged out of the Capitol by her expensive dyed hair choking on her dentures while being arraigned for sedition, but her getting beaten with the ‘awesome power of the Speaker’s gavel’ and lynched by her own caucus for incompetence will be even more delicious.

At around 2am Tuesday evening I realized that they were actually going to do this and I texted a friend the next morning. His response?

“Civil war it is then.”

There can be no other response to this from men and women of character. Exhaust every legal means possible, certainly, but remember that the courts are as corrupt as the county governments. Fear of reprisal makes men weak.

The one thing Trump said in his post-election remarks that rang so true and with me and should ring true with every libertarian-leaning person (left or right) alive, that the process itself is corrupting. It corrupts everything it touches.

Four years of the Democrats and the Media screaming about Russian collusion and undermining the legitimacy of Donald Trump inspired thousands of people to become corrupt poll workers, mailmen, supervisors of elections, party operatives and the like.

And they obviously feel justified in this. They are, after all, the heroes of their own stories whose motives are pure and whose hearts are in the right place.

If we just get rid of Orange Man Bad, everything wrong with America will be gone. Scapegoating is as old as mankind but it doesn’t work anymore now that we’ve internalized the story from the scapegoat’s point of view, Christ.

(Much more at the link)

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Well things are about at crazy as you could expect.

It sounds nuts but I still think Trump will somehow end up next President

I'm not trolling, it's just my gut reaction.

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4 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

Well things are about at crazy as you could expect.

It sounds nuts but I still think Trump will somehow end up next President

I'm not trolling, it's just my gut reaction.

I don't know, TBH.  But it seems to me that the only way he retains the presidency is if, in the next 2-3 days, there are dozens of people in very very high places in handcuffs with clear evidence of them having done things in the high crimes and misdemeanors category.  Treason, criminal vote manipulation on a massive scale, international conspiracy to manipulate the vote, etc.

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2 hours ago, El Nikko said:

I still think Trump will somehow end up next President

Perhaps a Deus Ex Machina event--maybe space aliens intervening and using superior power to keep Dear Leader in power?

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Jeanine Pirro Slams ‘Outright Criminal,’ ‘Bunch of Freaks’ Responsible for Capitol Riots: Stop Trying to Blame Antifa!

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jeanine-pirro-slams-outright-criminal-bunch-of-freaks-responsible-for-capitol-riots-stop-trying-to-blame-antifa/

Fox News host Jeanine Pirro didn’t hold back on Saturday night, scolding pro-Trump vigilantes who stormed the Capitol building on Wednesday, calling the actions of the looters “deplorable” and urging her viewers to stop blaming antifa.

“I want to be clear. The actions at the United States Capitol three days ago were deplorable, reprehensible, outright criminal,” Pirro stated. “These frightening and repulsive actions represent the most significant breach on our Capitol in over 200 years. And I don’t care with happened in the past and or whether those who did it think the election was stolen. That is not justification. Seventy-five million of us are still angry about the election, but we don’t storm the Capitol.”

The Fox News host then told her audience to stop blaming others for the illegal activities carried out by President Donald Trump’s supporters.

“And stop looking for other people to blame, including those dirt-bag terrorists antifa. To those of you who did this, you did it, of your own will, and you will be held accountable. Take the veil of politics off,” Pirro continued. “Be totally objective, anyone watching this must condemn it.”

Pirro went onto state the pro-Trump vigilantes looked like a “bunch of freaks” as they destroyed the Capitol building.

The FBI said Friday they had “no indication” that antifa activists were involved in the Capitol raid.

The claim that antifa was involved in the storming of the Capitol was first pushed by a now-debunked and retracted Washington Times report, but the story quickly spread in conservative circles nonetheless.

Watch above, via Fox News.

My Comments:

As noted up the thread, after the death of the police officer, IMO virtually everyone who invaded the Capitol Building should be charged with felony murder, which is a first degree murder charge.  

There are a lot of folks, especially minorities, who are serving long prison sentences, and some have been executed, who participated in a felony but were convicted of felony murder because their accomplice killed someone during the commission of the felony.  A classic example is one burglar breaking into the back door and one into the front door of a house. The guy at the front door shoots and kills the homeowner.  The back door guy had nothing to do with the shooting, but he is convicted of felony murder. 

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2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

it seems to me that the only way he retains the presidency is if, in the next 2-3 days, there are dozens of people in very very high places in handcuffs with clear evidence of them having done things in the high crimes and misdemeanors category. 

I'll say this, you guys are certainly entertaining. 

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Some more on the Vatican 'blackout' from someone who actually lives there...

https://thecatholictraveler.com/blackout-at-the-vatican/

Extract:

'Now, I love a good conspiracy as much as everyone. You might remember when I posted the video of smoke rising over the Vatican. That video was shown in newscasts all over the world. It was actually a fire at a nearby tire shop. I’m in Snopes now thanks to that one.

But a gunfight at the Vatican and the pope being held by the FBI.. what?

I looked out my window (I can see the Vatican from my apartment) lights were on. No gunfights. No police. Cars were coming and going as usual on an early winter Sunday morning.

The video many sent me was from the live-feed of the Vatican YouTube page. Here’s a clip:

As you can see, the camera exposure seems to be really low – something that happens to the live-feed often, by the way, when there is lightening and occasionally even during the rain. In any case, you can see the lights are very much on. You can see the dome, you can see the lights of the colonnade, you can see some office/apartment lights, you can see the nativity lights, you can see the Christmas tree star.

You’ll notice a vehicle enters the shot. Some have said this was an ambulance for the shootout. But, longtime Instagram followers will know this is actually my nemesis, the street sweeper.'

Amazingly there was another blackout last night - another military op?!!😀

https://thecatholictraveler.com/another-blackout-at-the-vatican/

Here's my own screengrabs from the video the first night - not cropped and/or darkened pics from twitter, etc. First during the 'blackout'...

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And just for comparison, one after the 'blackout', aka when the camera exposure sorted itself out...

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What you'll of course notice is that during the 'blackout' you can still see all the lights! 😁 Even, faintly, the ones in the building and even the damn Christmas tree lights. In fact it looks rather like the whole scene is just uniformly dimmer, almost like a change in camera exposure setting or something. Someone needs to explain to the conspiracy folk that's not how blackouts work! Blackout means the power, and therefore lights, are off. Not that someone has been messing with the Great Vatican City Dimmer Switch.

And no 'ah but battery/generator backup?'. That's not how that works either. If there was a real blackout and there was backup power, what you'd see is all the lights go off, then shortly, most likely only some, but possibly all depending on scope of the backup, lights come back on at normal brightness. Or possibly different backup lighting could come on. But certainly not just all the lights going dim!

Thanks to the 12-hour buffered history of the feed, you can, at the time of writing, go back to 7:00 am local time last night and see the end of last night's blackout. Note how the entire scene, including the lights, just gets brighter. Dont worry if you miss it - I predict there'll be another blackout and military op tonight. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Rb7_WdNlZY&feature=emb_logo

The first night's 'end of blackout' was the best though, as there was actually a moving vehicle in the scene, a road sweeper, when 'the lights came back on'. As you would expect if it was just the camera exposure changing, the vehicle's lights also brightened the same instant. So vehicles are also affected by the 'blackout'? :)

This has been interesting for me - I've personally witnessed a new element being woven into the conspiracy theory while the original seed occurrence was still viewable on the original source - the buffered history of the webcam. I find it absolutely stunning, and very telling, how you can go from an obviously misunderstood (or deliberately misrepresented) webcam issue, through various groups spreading it around and embellishing it with additional info and 'facts' and finally conclude 'there has been a military operation in Vatican City by US special forces with Italian cooperation!! Oh, and the Pope, a head of state, has been arrested (but they let him out for Sunday mass)! 😁

It's hilarious, but also kind of disturbing, how such an elaborate story can be spun out of a foundation of complete and utter nonsense! All I can say is, if this speaks for the genesis of other elements of the fraud narrative, I can see why none of it is sticking! 

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12 hours ago, El Nikko said:

Well things are about at crazy as you could expect.

It sounds nuts but I still think Trump will somehow end up next President

I'm not trolling, it's just my gut reaction.

Whenever I read comments like this I think of this scene

(20) Bronson. Dance scene - YouTube

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25 minutes ago, NickW said:

Whenever I read comments like this I think of this scene

(20) Bronson. Dance scene - YouTube

And the last 10 weeks (hell last year) haven't been totally insane then? All perfectly normal to have been locked in our homes for 10 months and then for a bizarre election in the US with massive claims of fraud and tampering....

This is far from normal and if someone had said this would happen a few years back they would have been laughed at.

All I am saying is nothing would surprise me.

I guess in 2021 we're just not allowed to think unless it's MSM prescribed.

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Just now, El Nikko said:

And the last 10 weeks (hell last year) haven't been totally insane then? All perfectly normal to have been locked in our homes for 10 months and then for a bizarre election in the US with massive claims of fraud and tampering....

This is far from normal and if someone had said this would happen a few years back they would have been laughed at.

All I am saying is nothing would surprise me.

I guess in 2021 we're just not allowed to think unless it's MSM prescribed.

It has been and I suspect there has been a lot of dirty dealing on the DNC side. Trump should have federally sorted out Voter ID and other issues to ensure a clean election. 

However the name Trump is now in the trashcan. The GOP won't touch Trump with a bargepole. 

My wife was saying that Trump is now viewing Ivanka as his successor in 2024. 

Not in a million years. In fact I can see his business empire going down the plughole unless millions of Trumpers rally round to support it. 

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2 minutes ago, NickW said:

It has been and I suspect there has been a lot of dirty dealing on the DNC side. Trump should have federally sorted out Voter ID and other issues to ensure a clean election. 

However the name Trump is now in the trashcan. The GOP won't touch Trump with a bargepole. 

My wife was saying that Trump is now viewing Ivanka as his successor in 2024. 

Not in a million years. In fact I can see his business empire going down the plughole unless millions of Trumpers rally round to support it. 

Well you can call me crazy and maybe I am but I have a feeling that something very big is going to happen even if Trump leaves office on the 20th.

Stories mentioning China in the media seem to be increasing in frequency and since they're to blame (allegedly) for Covid and destroying the western economies (even though we did it to ourselves) and I wouldn't be surprised if they get blamed for 'hacking' the election. On top of this self imposed restrictions banning certain US firms from trading with Taiwan have been lifted which has really angered the CCP and also I've just read that some Chinese firms were delisted from US stock exchanges but I've not confirmed it yet.

I think we're heading into a confrontation with China, not necessarily military (yet) but this has been my feeling for months and that was why I thought Trump might pull it off somehow, right now the CCP and other adversaries would be rubbing their hands with glee at the prospect of Biden who speaks very softly about China.

I believe that China is now only a couple of years away from overtaking the US in GDP and their influence is rising rapidly.

For a year I have tried to be as logical as I could which is why I wrongly assumed that the lockdown wouldn't last very long because the economic damage would outweigh any good we could do but here we are 10 months down the line, and yes using the same logic I expected that the election mess was easy to fix due to all the evidence and that the sensible thing to have done was get it in front of a court (non of them heard the evidence apart from one unrelated to Trump) or do an audit but again here we are 10 weeks down the line and days away from a Biden inauguration.

Logic went out of the window months ago who knows what madness will come next

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I would also add

How on earth is it possible that Trump wasn't in communication with his own VP in the run up to the 6th? How could he have not know that Pence wouldn't send the dual slates back to the legislators which is what he should have done.

Apparently he had no idea what Pence would do yet he held a massive rally outside the Whitehouse and told people to walk up Pennsylvania avenue and that he would be there, what happened next was fairly predictable but the police were some how totally undermanned and pretty much opened the doors to some of the protestors.

As you said and I've said many times, if he failed he would not only humiliate his own supporters but destroy his legacy and probably his business along with it...for the casual observer this appears to be exactly what has happened but he's an intelligent and calculating man and I find all of this very very strange.

And when things look strange...well...they probably are.

Regardless I will continue to watch the events, it looks very tragic for the American people at the moment but who knows what will happen next. I'm expecting the madness of 2020 to continue this year regardless of what happens on the 20th.

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1 hour ago, El Nikko said:

dual slates

Once again, this is an outright lie.  There were no deal slats of Electors. 

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