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16 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

That is just not the case. The organized aspect is not relevant since people are correctly more distrustful of their organizations the same way they are distrustful of their government. People are broadening their religious perspective to a more universal and less sin centered view. There are very many globalist infiltrated ministries that are losing their flock, just as the Catholic church had been. 

Or the "war on white christianity" (your words) is really just "white christians" choosing not be as religious:

https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

I've seen it in a lot of my peers (white millennials). Gen Z is probably even more so. It already happened in Europe. 

Personally, I think tolerance is very important. Of course, what you tolerate is very subjective. 

 

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9 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Yeah, because "dixiecrat" sentiment is so strong among Democrats in 2020 (versus 1992 or even 1948):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat

It is, however. Although now, just by another name. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/8/19/9178573/teacher-students-race-study

"Bigotry of low expectations" is the same, and the overwhelming majority of teachers are Democrats. 

https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-liberal/

While it unsurprising that among actors and actresses there are 90 Democrats for every 10 Republicans, many would be amazed to discover that teachers are actually as liberal or even more so than those in acting.

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1 minute ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

It is, however. Although now, just by another name. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/8/19/9178573/teacher-students-race-study

"Bigotry of low expectations" is the same, and the overwhelming majority of teachers are Democrats. 

https://www.pacificresearch.org/why-are-teachers-mostly-liberal/

While it unsurprising that among actors and actresses there are 90 Democrats for every 10 Republicans, many would be amazed to discover that teachers are actually as liberal or even more so than those in acting.

Yes, that's where understanding implicit bias is important. 

Implicit bias isn't a Democratic or Republican thing. It's a human thing. It's better to talk about it and try to get better rather than sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. Which party do you think has promoted that viewpoint? 

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1 minute ago, surrept33 said:

Yes, that's where understanding implicit bias is important. 

Implicit bias isn't a Democratic or Republican thing. It's a human thing. It's better to talk about it and try to get better rather than sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist. Which party do you think has promoted that viewpoint? 

Oh, I dunno, the party who decided to use racism and bigotry as their rallying cry for the last 150 years, and still is.

The Democratic Party. 

 

How about that:

https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/

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18 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Oh, I dunno, the party who decided to use racism and bigotry as their rallying cry for the last 150 years, and still is.

The Democratic Party. 

 

How about that:

https://time.com/4385755/faith-in-america/

I disagree with her viewpoint. Keep in mind the Republicans started the "culture war" and used religion as a wedge (divisive rather than inclusive) issue. For example, Karl Rove used it very successfully in the 2000s, until it didn't work as much anymore: https://www.salon.com/2004/07/06/evangelicals_7/

The hypocrisy of Donald Trump as the second coming is very amusing. Donald Trump.

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10 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

I disagree with her viewpoint. Keep in mind the Republicans started the "culture war" and used religion as a wedge (divisive rather than inclusive) issue. For example, Karl Rove used it very successfully in the 2000s, until it didn't work as much anymore: https://www.salon.com/2004/07/06/evangelicals_7/

The hypocrisy of Donald Trump as the second coming is very amusing. 

Evangelicals are a fringe element of Christianity. Xiden is ostensibly a Catholic, but there's plenty of priests and bishops who won't serve him communion. Then there's his son, that paragon of virtue. Interesting that the FBLie will charge you with child pornography if you're looking at the contents of Hunter's hard-drive but they can't be bothered to investigate him

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13 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

I disagree with her viewpoint. Keep in mind the Republicans started the "culture war" and used religion as a wedge (divisive rather than inclusive) issue. For example, Karl Rove used it very successfully in the 2000s, until it didn't work as much anymore: https://www.salon.com/2004/07/06/evangelicals_7/

The hypocrisy of Donald Trump as the second coming is very amusing. 

Yeah. That dang old "freedom of religion" canard that Republicans just hate. 🙄

 

Meanwhile: https://www.vox.com/2019/3/22/18259865/great-awokening-white-liberals-race-polling-trump-2020

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They literally must think Everyone else is as stupid as they are. Routers don't hold social security numbers. They're just slow walking the process while they line up their armies of "protestors" once the brown stinky stuff hits the fast spinning object. 

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1 hour ago, 0R0 said:

People are broadening their religious perspective to a more universal and less sin centered view. There are very many globalist infiltrated ministries that are losing their flock, just as the Catholic church had been. 

I think that's good. Most religious belief are pretty syncretic in nature. Usually any form of change in mass communication (for example, the internet) tends to change religious belief structures from traditionalism. Consider this invention and the timing of the reformation:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printing_press 

Personally I endorse https://dudeism.com/whatisdudeism/

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1 hour ago, 0R0 said:

That is just not the case. The organized aspect is not relevant since people are correctly more distrustful of their organizations the same way they are distrustful of their government. People are broadening their religious perspective to a more universal and less sin centered view. There are very many globalist infiltrated ministries that are losing their flock, just as the Catholic church had been. 

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When U.S. Catholic bishops hold their next national meeting in June, they'll be deciding whether to send a tougher-than-ever message to President Joe Biden and other Catholic politicians: Don't receive Communion if you persist in public advocacy of abortion rights.
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1 hour ago, surrept33 said:

Or the "war on white christianity" (your words) is really just "white christians" choosing not be as religious:

https://www.pewforum.org/2019/10/17/in-u-s-decline-of-christianity-continues-at-rapid-pace/

I've seen it in a lot of my peers (white millennials). Gen Z is probably even more so. It already happened in Europe. 

Personally, I think tolerance is very important. Of course, what you tolerate is very subjective. 

 

Should have added in that the religious are far more so than their regular church goer elders. They insist on producing their own reading in scripture and run through several ministers and groups before they settle on one. They will often get disillusioned with their ministers and leave to form new groups or ministries. The mindless televangelist bully pulpit and amen repetition are dwindling, the bible study and online communities are rapidly expanding and are busy reinterpreting  scripture.  Many are trying to reconstitute the bible with other sources beyond apocryphal to fill in blanks and weigh some books more heavily than others. Christianity is evolving into something more intense and personal and returning to its social unity function rather than a top down control mechanism. As someone put it, he "does not need to go to church to be told he is a sinner on top of being a white supremacist". The negative messages are being rejected. 

The Q movement has been pushing people into a reinterpretation of revelation not as the end of humanity but of the satanic cabal. That is part of the "great awakening".

Personally, I find scripture to have been so heavily "doctored" that it is hard to use any of it as a guide to spiritual historic or theological anything. The Koran seemed to be a completely inorganic construct when I read it in high school, far worse than the new testament, that at least had a sense of some bits of it being an actual chronicle of something experienced. 

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4 hours ago, Bob D said:

Whose side are you on?  LOL   I'm not surprised you'd use the KKK, the institution of Democrat Racism, as your symbol of hatred.  Is that Democrat WV Senator Robert Byrd???

Former U.S. Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) was a card-carrying member and recruiter for the KKK. In the 1940s, he obtained the KKK rank of “Exalted cyclops” and spent decades promoting their vile, racist message. And he took part in what was – at the time- the longest filibuster ever against the Civil Rights Act.

As Byrd once announced:

“I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

Watch this video (below) where Hillary Clinton remembers her friend and former Klansman, Senator Robert Byrd:

https://youtu.be/ryweuBVJMEA

It must be exhausting being a Liberal!!

Most people know that the Democrats and Republicans swapped their social agendas in the 60's with Nixon's southern strategy. Please keep up. 

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1 hour ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Yeah. That dang old "freedom of religion" canard that Republicans just hate. 🙄

 

 

Indeed, let the Muslims in.

Some of you guys are one step from blaming Jews...

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This is for @Ward Smith since he appears confused on this:

Sidney Powell argued that that “no reasonable person” would believe that her conspiracy theories were factual.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/michigan-ag-turns-sidney-powells-claim-no-reasonable-person-would-believe-her-kraken-theories-against-her-in-sanctions-fight/

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2 hours ago, turbguy said:

You know, no matter WHO it is here (including me), we all find change disturbing, if not downright threatening to what we feel is "right" or "proper".

In actuality,it is our minds that are threatening change.

Our minds will lose.

 

I find what we have now and where apparent US and global politics are heading to be entirely unacceptable. Change is absolutely necessary to remove the global, national, provincial and local control structures and blow apart permanently the power of governments and their particular power to form cartels against their people via multilateral treaties.  

Things have not been right and proper. They have been getting worse. One possible sequence of events may be actually at work to reverse this. unfortunately you and many others here won't hear of it. 

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15 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

Christianity is evolving into something more intense and personal and returning to its social unity function rather than a top down control mechanism. As someone put it, he "does not need to go to church to be told he is a sinner on top of being a white supremacist". The negative messages are being rejected. 

The Q movement has been pushing people into a reinterpretation of revelation not as the end of humanity but of the satanic cabal. That is part of the "great awakening".

 

You do understand you stopped being Christian and are now part of a cult, correct?

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6 hours ago, 0R0 said:

I find what we have now and where apparent US and global politics are heading to be entirely unacceptable. Change is absolutely necessary to remove the global, national, provincial and local control structures and blow apart permanently the power of governments and their particular power to form cartels against their people via multilateral treaties.  

Things have not been right and proper. They have been getting worse. One possible sequence of events may be actually at work to reverse this. unfortunately you and many others here won't hear of it. 

That's because anarcho capitalism is stupid. The market is a tool, a mechanism, it is not God. Without regulation markets either achieve the bare minimum or fall apart.

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7 minutes ago, -trance said:

Indeed, let the Muslims in.

Some of you guys are one step from blaming Jews...

I guess you didn't pick up the sarcasm. 

Par for the course with you. 

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4 hours ago, Bob D said:

Byrd's repudiation was about his reputation not his past.  Byrd rose to the top of his beloved organization that championed intimidating and killing blacks.  .You don't live 60 years with KKK hatred in your soul and suddenly become a champion of anything associated with anyone's rights.  Please just let this die because you are too deep in this racist hole. 

Robert Byrd was no David Duke.

I'll take John Lewis' word for it:

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/lawmaker-news/106809-robert-byrd-a-true-statesman-rep-john-lewis

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44 minutes ago, -trance said:

You do understand you stopped being Christian and are now part of a cult, correct?

I am not a Christian.

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2 hours ago, 0R0 said:

Should have added in that the religious are far more so than their regular church goer elders. They insist on producing their own reading in scripture and run through several ministers and groups before they settle on one. They will often get disillusioned with their ministers and leave to form new groups or ministries. The mindless televangelist bully pulpit and amen repetition are dwindling, the bible study and online communities are rapidly expanding and are busy reinterpreting  scripture.  Many are trying to reconstitute the bible with other sources beyond apocryphal to fill in blanks and weigh some books more heavily than others. Christianity is evolving into something more intense and personal and returning to its social unity function rather than a top down control mechanism. As someone put it, he "does not need to go to church to be told he is a sinner on top of being a white supremacist". The negative messages are being rejected. 

The Q movement has been pushing people into a reinterpretation of revelation not as the end of humanity but of the satanic cabal. That is part of the "great awakening".

Personally, I find scripture to have been so heavily "doctored" that it is hard to use any of it as a guide to spiritual historic or theological anything. The Koran seemed to be a completely inorganic construct when I read it in high school, far worse than the new testament, that at least had a sense of some bits of it being an actual chronicle of something experienced. 

I think ancient scriptures are interesting, as well as the evolution of religions. 

We owe Islamic culture quite a bit, especially for keeping alive a lot of Greek/Roman knowledge and being at the nexus of East and West. 

Consider the story of Pope Sylvester II, for example, the first French pope who spent a lot of time in Islamic spain (Al-Andalus): https://whytodayisbrilliant.wordpress.com/2016/05/12/magic-pope/

He was also pope around 1000 AD. It was a time when were very suspicious about the rapture in Revelation (because of the whole millenium thing).

He tried to reform a lot of things, and he (re)introduced things like the abacus, arabic numerals, and he created a medieval robot. Unfortunately, people assumed he was a satanic wizard for many centuries after. 

Could have been the renaissance way sooner. 

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4 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

Evangelicals are a fringe element of Christianity. Xiden is ostensibly a Catholic, but there's plenty of priests and bishops who won't serve him communion. Then there's his son, that paragon of virtue. Interesting that the FBLie will charge you with child pornography if you're looking at the contents of Hunter's hard-drive but they can't be bothered to investigate him

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It’s not often we agree on much but packing the court would be very wrong and would potentially lose votes from people like me who believe in the rule of law with no shenanigans. Same with the District of Columbia being the 51st state. Let’s throw in the attempted coup by Trumpians. None of that is American. None of that is about equal opportunity and fairness. None of that is the rule of law. None of that builds the foundation for people to thrive.

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31 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Could have been the renaissance way sooner. 

Not until the Caliphate was driven into the ground by the crusaders, rebuilding and learning how to be free of Muslim horde jingoism and jihad, and rediscovering our ancestors' culture. That's exactly when it did happen. Golden age, my ass. 

 

Western civilization owes nothing to Islam except for the thought of turning sand to glass. 

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53 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Not until the Caliphate was driven into the ground by the crusaders, rebuilding and learning how to be free of Muslim horde jingoism and jihad, and rediscovering our ancestors' culture. That's exactly when it did happen. Golden age, my ass. 

 

Western civilization owes nothing to Islam except for the thought of turning sand to glass. 

I disagree. 

Consider for example, the inventor of algebra and the algorithm, Al-Khwarizmi:

https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/mathematics/al-khwarizmi-a-mathematical-bridge-between-civilisations/

The House of Wisdom, in Baghdad was very important for humanity. It was unfortunately "driven to the ground" by the Mongol horde, and a lot of wisdom was lost.

Fortunately, Fibonacci, a Italian merchant, did his schooling in North Africa. He learned of Al-Khwarizmi's knowledge and the very important place value system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positional_notation and translated it to latin. It wasn't widely read until the printing press was invented though. It's modern arithmetic. Before learning how this worked, all people could do is count how many angels danced on the head of a pin using roman numerals.

It's unclear if a lot of a lot of innovations during the renaissance would have been created, including the concept of navigation, that required precise calculations without these cross cultural exchanges. It was not done during the crusades, more so through trade.

Ironically, of all the crusades, it was the 4th crusade, where in the crusaders backstabbed the Byzantine empire and took the most important city in christendom, Constantinople, which probably diffused more cultural knowledge from the east, including greek/roman culture: https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1188/1204-the-sack-of-constantinople/

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