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This chaos is getting good!

Some here think America's past has eliminated racism.

I think I'll sit back and watch...

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1 hour ago, surrept33 said:

I disagree. 

Consider for example, the inventor of algebra and the algorithm, Al-Khwarizmi:

https://www.bbvaopenmind.com/en/science/mathematics/al-khwarizmi-a-mathematical-bridge-between-civilisations/

The House of Wisdom, in Baghdad was very important for humanity. It was unfortunately "driven to the ground" by the Mongol horde, and a lot of wisdom was lost.

Fortunately, Fibonacci, a Italian merchant, did his schooling in North Africa. He learned of Al-Khwarizmi's knowledge and the very important place value system: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positional_notation and translated it to latin. It wasn't widely read until the printing press was invented though. It's modern arithmetic. Before learning how this worked, all people could do is count how many angels danced on the head of a pin using roman numerals.

It's unclear if a lot of a lot of innovations during the renaissance would have been created, including the concept of navigation, that required precise calculations without these cross cultural exchanges. It was not done during the crusades, more so through trade.

Ironically, of all the crusades, it was the 4th crusade, where in the crusaders backstabbed the Byzantine empire and took the most important city in christendom, Constantinople, which probably diffused more cultural knowledge from the east, including greek/roman culture: https://www.worldhistory.org/article/1188/1204-the-sack-of-constantinople/

 Islam was very, very different before the Mongols and it has never recovered. Ya just gotta love those funsters of the 4th crusade. :)

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3 hours ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Not until the Caliphate was driven into the ground by the crusaders, rebuilding and learning how to be free of Muslim horde jingoism and jihad, and rediscovering our ancestors' culture. That's exactly when it did happen. Golden age, my ass. 

 

Western civilization owes nothing to Islam except for the thought of turning sand to glass. 

You do know the Crusaders lost and the Renaissance happened afterward? I guess not. Sad.

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8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

You do know the Crusaders lost and the Renaissance happened afterward? I guess not. Sad.

How do you not understand that's exactly what I said. And, if the crusaders lost, Europe would still be under Islamic rule, you numpty. 

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I think the one  believe in mainstream depends on modern mainstream interpretation of  us & world history and socialism, communism ,fascism, populism The deep underlying problem through out history is Big Central Government always ends up with wealth transfer  to the close to government club up to the economical system collapse and the politicians will go to war to push the debt to the people and that's why I am so resonated with the idea. of freedom and divide of power US have.

-Instead of making competitions and regulation like transparency to keep healthcare down to a level normal people can pay for it (like in any developing countries), they make it more and more expensive to make people pay more and more tax for a free healthcare which expends government in healthcare, would mean health industries workers are working for the government.  Gov and government got more power and the people have less freedom financially and politically.

-Same with the loaner of students loan is hand in hand with colleges to raise the colleges fees to a high level with many degrees that is no way can have a job to pay back the debt. Youngster will want free colleges or debt jubilee and more tax on the system. (West Germany  mitigated this problem by providing frees educations for people but to their ability and practical jobs and less meaningless art). People who  teach at free colleges will not different from working in the public sector, which expends the government reach. 

-Normal boomer generation could have a house with one single income and retire comfortably in an economy encourage savings. Now we have the system encourage spending and a normal 2 income  household working hard for mortgage and live pay check for pay check because of high premium insurance, high deductible, more taxes in anything and inflation in price so the savings will have to use to invest to keep up, leading to corporations and funds that are too big to fail and got bailed out by taxes. Later generations depends more on the government for the retirement leads to bigger government.

All of the above will ultimately lead to a bigger government --> go left  and wealth redistribution to corporation whos are close to the government and banking system because they can access bailed out after pocketing profit and most of the average people would be enslave to pay for the expanding tax aka a nanny state --> less and less motivation for people to work hard and the system collapse, pay the ultimate price and start a new monopoly game.  

Currently we are in this phase:

"Good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times". We always want more but if we don't trade anything for that extra, we are walking toward a trap. 

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1 hour ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

How do you not understand that's exactly what I said. And, if the crusaders lost, Europe would still be under Islamic rule, you numpty. 

Except it's wrong history. 

The only parts of Europe that were under Islamic rule during the crusades was Spain.

That was reconquered during the Spanish Reconquista. Unfortunately, this time was horrible for minorities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Jews_from_Spain

Moorish spain was very cosmopolitan and concentrated on trade. People of the "book" (aka Abrahamic religions) were all tolerated though taxed in different amounts.

What really precipitated the reconquista was that the Caliphate of Cordoba broke down because of infighting by local princely states. They created the Taifa system. Where does the word tariff come from? Well, probably from the Taifa of Tarifa. The United States more or less had the same problem during the Articles of Confederation before the constitution created a strong central government. 

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19 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Except it's wrong history. 

The only parts of Europe that were under Islamic rule during the crusades was Spain.

That was reconquered during the Spanish Reconquista. Unfortunately, this time was horrible for minorities: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Jews_from_Spain

Moorish spain was very cosmopolitan and concentrated on trade. People of the "book" (aka Abrahamic religions) were all tolerated though taxed in different amounts.

What really precipitated the reconquista was that the Caliphate of Cordoba broke down because of infighting by local princely states. They created the Taifa system. Where does the word tariff come from? Well, probably from the Taifa of Tarifa. The United States more or less had the same problem during the Articles of Confederation before the constitution created a strong central government. 

That's only part of the story. Thanks for reading up on it a little. The Islamic caliphate in Portugal and Spain were horrifically cruel to their subjugated serfs. After the reconquista, the Spanish and Portuguese population were extremely dismayed at the mercy the Islamic losers were shown, since it was the opposite they were shown. Taxes were only available to those who could pay. You could keep your religion IF you could pay homage. If you couldn't, well, it's either death or submission to islam. 

Defend the Islamic horde all you want, the Nazis were about the same. 

The crusades happened for a reason. 

It's done. Christianity won. 

Your revisionist history doesn't change anything. 

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44 minutes ago, SUZNV said:

I think the one  believe in mainstream depends on modern mainstream interpretation of  us & world history and socialism, communism ,fascism, populism The deep underlying problem through out history is Big Central Government always ends up with wealth transfer  to the close to government club up to the economical system collapse and the politicians will go to war to push the debt to the people and that's why I am so resonated with the idea. of freedom and divide of power US have.

Well, a different narrative is that the overreach of Reaganomics has a big effect on average wage growth, but not median wage growth. So it promotes inequality. Personally, I agree with Robert Reich that it's time to try something else: 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/14/joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-stimulus-trump-tax-cuts-welfare-reagan-clinton?

As with everything, Bidenomics may overreach, but perhaps it is the best for current economic conditions: https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-bidens-progressive-policies-get-a-turn-at-the-serve/

Trump just continued supply side economics. Fundamentally, it entails the government cuts tax rates – especially on the wealthy (or corporate welfare) – with the hope that the wealthy will feel more inclined to earn more money.  This will lead to higher tax revenue, which will more than offset the loss of revenue from the initial tax cuts.  The central problem is no matter how you look at the results these days (unlike the stagflation conditions of the 1980s), it doesn't work as advertised. It does help "rentiers" though. Those who can just lobby government to keep the current policies in place. The richer get richer, while the poor are accused from leaching from society. The middle class gets comparatively destroyed. 

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1 hour ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

That's only part of the story. Thanks for reading up on it a little. The Islamic caliphate in Portugal and Spain were horrifically cruel to their subjugated serfs. After the reconquista, the Spanish and Portuguese population were extremely dismayed at the mercy the Islamic losers were shown, since it was the opposite they were shown. Taxes were only available to those who could pay. You could keep your religion IF you could pay homage. If you couldn't, well, it's either death or submission to islam. 

Defend the Islamic horde all you want, the Nazis were about the same. 

The crusades happened for a reason. 

It's done. Christianity won. 

Your revisionist history doesn't change anything. 

https://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0725/p15s02-bogn.html

^- that's probably the generally understood consensus. 

It's true that the Berber dynasties (not moorish) were more puritanical. But it doesn't compare to the Spanish Inquisition, where pretty much all Jews/Muslims were either forced to convert or expelled. 

During the earlier era "spanish" and "portuguese" had little meaning. 

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32 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

https://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0725/p15s02-bogn.html

^- that's probably the generally understood consensus. 

It's true that the Berber dynasties (not moorish) were more puritanical. But it doesn't compare to the Spanish Inquisition, where pretty much all Jews/Muslims were either forced to convert or expelled. 

During the earlier era "spanish" and "portuguese" had little meaning. 

The cultural phenomena of the era doesn't even come close to capturing the reason for crusades. You're talking about scene 1 of act 3 when there are 5 acts and 10 scenes per act. I dont care about your anti-western sentiment. The reason for expelling Islamic rule from Europe was justified. Expansion from north Africa had been happening for 4 centuries already. I'm sure you'd enjoy living in a caliphate.

Maybe go try it now. 

https://youtu.be/spbCh9K3qlY

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37 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

The cultural phenomena of the era doesn't even come close to capturing the reason for crusades. You're talking about scene 1 of act 3 when there are 5 acts and 10 scenes per act. I dont care about your anti-western sentiment. The reason for expelling Islamic rule from Europe was justified. Expansion from north Africa had been happening for 4 centuries already. I'm sure you'd enjoy living in a caliphate.

Maybe go try it now. 

https://youtu.be/spbCh9K3qlY

Hardly "anti-western". Realist. There were periods of toleration or intoleration in pretty much all religions and cultures. 

You could also take a look at the eastern crusades. Just off the top of my head:

The Byzantine Empire asked the Pope for help after the byzantine army got wiped out at the Battle of Manzikert by the Seljuk Turks. The Western Church and Eastern Church had squabbled for centuries about theological debates, but also because of power. Was the Pope or the Patriarch of Constantinople more powerful?

Instead of defending Constantinople, the greatest Christian city, the crusaders marched for Jerusalem, which was a relative backwater during this era. 

The Crusaders took land in the holy land, but squabbled and divided it into a bunch of small fiefdoms.

Eventually the Seljuks were defeated by the Mongols and the Byzantines were able to retake Anatolia (Turkey). 

Saladin, who was Sunni, overthrew the Shia Fatamid caliphate in Egypt. He was a much more cunning military leader and took back most of the crusader states. 

In the late Crusader era, many of the fledgling states allied themselves with Mongols, who depopulated a lot of civilized areas. 

The Mamluks, who took over Egypt, finally defeated the Mongol armies for good. 

After the 4th Crusade sacked Constantinople because of pure greed, the Ottoman Turks were able to rise up and the eventually conquered all of the Byzantine Empire, took over Greece, the Balkans, etc. Even reaching the gates of Vienna twice. 

The Crusades were kind of a failure. 

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20 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Most people know that the Democrats and Republicans swapped their social agendas in the 60's with Nixon's southern strategy. Please keep up. 

Bald. Faced. Lie. 

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20 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

This is for @Ward Smith since he appears confused on this:

Sidney Powell argued that that “no reasonable person” would believe that her conspiracy theories were factual.

https://lawandcrime.com/2020-election/michigan-ag-turns-sidney-powells-claim-no-reasonable-person-would-believe-her-kraken-theories-against-her-in-sanctions-fight/

She argued no such thing, the attorneys representing her insurance company made the claim. I've documented this weeks ago, no need to relitigate it here. Do try and keep up

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17 hours ago, Boat said:

Let’s throw in the attempted coup by Trumpians.

Could have Upvoted you except for this nonsense. Asking for a free and fair Democratic election isn't coup worthy, quite the opposite in fact 

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U.S. Justice Department worried about Arizona vote recount

The DOJ wants to guarantee that federal law is followed.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix. | AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin, File

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

05/05/2021 10:49 PM EDT

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PHOENIX — The U.S. Department of Justice expressed concern Wednesday about ballot security and potential voter intimidation arising from the Republican-controlled Arizona Senate’s unprecedented private recount of the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County.

In a letter to GOP Senate President Karen Fann, the head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division said the Senate’s farming out of 2.1 million ballots from the state’s most populous county to a contractor may run afoul of federal law requiring ballots to remain in the control of elections officials for 22 months.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/05/arizona-audit-justice-department-485505

 

 

 
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11 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

U.S. Justice Department worried about Arizona vote recount

The DOJ wants to guarantee that federal law is followed.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix. | AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin, File

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

05/05/2021 10:49 PM EDT

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PHOENIX — The U.S. Department of Justice expressed concern Wednesday about ballot security and potential voter intimidation arising from the Republican-controlled Arizona Senate’s unprecedented private recount of the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County.

In a letter to GOP Senate President Karen Fann, the head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division said the Senate’s farming out of 2.1 million ballots from the state’s most populous county to a contractor may run afoul of federal law requiring ballots to remain in the control of elections officials for 22 months.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/05/arizona-audit-justice-department-485505

 

 

 

 

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Bennett told the Associated Press Tuesday night that teams doing a hand recount of the presidential race lost by former President Donald Trump and the U.S. Senate race won by Democrat Mark Kelly has tallied less than 10% of the ballot

Gee, they've only tallied 200k votes? I thought Trump was up by eleventy trillion.

 

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“Past experience with similar investigative efforts around the country has raised concerns that they can be directed at minority voters, which potentially can implicate the anti-intimidation prohibitions of the Voting Rights Act,” Karlan wrote. “Such investigative efforts can have a significant intimidating effect on qualified voters that can deter them from seeking to vote in the future.”

Yeah, often times those tactics are straight out of the jim crow playbook.

From the NAACP: http://archive.fairvote.org/righttovote/PFAW-NAACP.pdf

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As this report details, voter intimidation and suppression is not a problem limited to the southern United States. It takes place from California to New York, Texas to Illinois. It is not the province of a single political party, although patterns of intimidation have changed as the party allegiances of minority communities have changed over the years.

In recent years, many minority communities have tended to align with the Democratic Party. Over the past two decades, the Republican Party has launched a series of “ballot security” and “voter integrity” initiatives which have targeted minority communities. At least three times, these initiatives were successfully challenged in federal courts as illegal attempts to suppress voter participation based on race.

 

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59 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Hardly "anti-western". Realist. There were periods of toleration or intoleration in pretty much all religions and cultures. 

You could also take a look at the eastern crusades. Just off the top of my head:

The Byzantine Empire asked the Pope for help after the byzantine army got wiped out at the Battle of Manzikert by the Seljuk Turks. The Western Church and Eastern Church had squabbled for centuries about theological debates, but also because of power. Was the Pope or the Patriarch of Constantinople more powerful?

Instead of defending Constantinople, the greatest Christian city, the crusaders marched for Jerusalem, which was a relative backwater during this era. 

The Crusaders took land in the holy land, but squabbled and divided it into a bunch of small fiefdoms.

Eventually the Seljuks were defeated by the Mongols and the Byzantines were able to retake Anatolia (Turkey). 

Saladin, who was Sunni, overthrew the Shia Fatamid caliphate in Egypt. He was a much more cunning military leader and took back most of the crusader states. 

In the late Crusader era, many of the fledgling states allied themselves with Mongols, who depopulated a lot of civilized areas. 

The Mamluks, who took over Egypt, finally defeated the Mongol armies for good. 

After the 4th Crusade sacked Constantinople because of pure greed, the Ottoman Turks were able to rise up and the eventually conquered all of the Byzantine Empire, took over Greece, the Balkans, etc. Even reaching the gates of Vienna twice. 

The Crusades were kind of a failure. 

None of this matters. You're talking about a slice of a pie. 1400 years of jihad, and it's the crusades that were the failure? You're an idiot if you can't see the truth. 

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4 hours ago, surrept33 said:

Well, a different narrative is that the overreach of Reaganomics has a big effect on average wage growth, but not median wage growth. So it promotes inequality. Personally, I agree with Robert Reich that it's time to try something else: 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/mar/14/joe-biden-coronavirus-covid-stimulus-trump-tax-cuts-welfare-reagan-clinton?

As with everything, Bidenomics may overreach, but perhaps it is the best for current economic conditions: https://www.heraldnet.com/opinion/comment-bidens-progressive-policies-get-a-turn-at-the-serve/

Trump just continued supply side economics. Fundamentally, it entails the government cuts tax rates – especially on the wealthy (or corporate welfare) – with the hope that the wealthy will feel more inclined to earn more money.  This will lead to higher tax revenue, which will more than offset the loss of revenue from the initial tax cuts.  The central problem is no matter how you look at the results these days (unlike the stagflation conditions of the 1980s), it doesn't work as advertised. It does help "rentiers" though. Those who can just lobby government to keep the current policies in place. The richer get richer, while the poor are accused from leaching from society. The middle class gets comparatively destroyed. 

The Trump attitude includes deregulation in order to attack the cost of business side in the US. Regulations have an enormous cost, particularly in time from plan to breaking ground and then in delays by various agencies and organizations lawfare and inspections. The Trump policies worked because he understood both the capital cost and return side (where tax rates come in) time cost of money and operational delay. He got an enormous boost in new plant since 2018. He also understood the extreme sensitivity of business to energy cost availability and reliability and that is a major advantage the US  has.

Reich, as he has always been, is wrong. 

The failures in free market economics we do observe are not actually from the free market, but from lack of prosecution of criminal behavior in hiring practices (price fixing and non poaching agreements), monopoly and monopolistic practices, industry collusion to use legislative and regulatory intervention to swat at competitors and new product, and finally, non-prosecution of fraud on Wall Street, where DOJ SEC and Treasury agreed not to prosecute particular kinds of major fraud, most prominent being endless timescale naked shorting. About $100 trillion in such fraud has depleted capital of operating industrial companies and tech since 2000 and stuffed it into the hands of Wall St. firms and their "just make me money" clients. 

There are many modes of sabotage our traitorous governments and politicians have used for a century in an attempt to destroy the US industrially culturally and economically. The scale of damage is about the size of the current US economy. Meaning that GDP could have been double what it is now, and median incomes 250-300% higher. 

The left side economists, Krugman Reich and company are just as useless as the more modern Pickety (sp?). They are far worse than Keynes and Fisher in their day. They promote a basic misunderstanding of economics and monetary and financial systems. The world would have been far better off if these people were categorized as fiction writers 

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53 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

None of this matters. You're talking about a slice of a pie. 1400 years of jihad, and it's the crusades that were the failure? You're an idiot if you can't see the truth. 

I think it was the mongol wipeout that held back the Islamic world from Syria to Afghanistan (splendid poppy fields didn't help there) as it only left a sense of loss of a glorious past and a need for vengeance which was sublimated into Jihad. 

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

U.S. Justice Department worried about Arizona vote recount

The DOJ wants to guarantee that federal law is followed.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix.

 

Arizona Senate President Karen Fann, R-Prescott, speaks to the media in Phoenix. | AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin, File

By ASSOCIATED PRESS

05/05/2021 10:49 PM EDT

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PHOENIX — The U.S. Department of Justice expressed concern Wednesday about ballot security and potential voter intimidation arising from the Republican-controlled Arizona Senate’s unprecedented private recount of the 2020 presidential election results in Maricopa County.

In a letter to GOP Senate President Karen Fann, the head of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division said the Senate’s farming out of 2.1 million ballots from the state’s most populous county to a contractor may run afoul of federal law requiring ballots to remain in the control of elections officials for 22 months.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/05/arizona-audit-justice-department-485505

Given that the DOJ is owned completely by the Demoncrats and always has been, this is unsurprising. It also demonstrates the mendacity of them, that they used their control of the Maricopa supervisors to stall, stall, stall, then claim with no support that the ballots needed to be moved. Everyone suspected it was a "chain of custody" ploy. Note the same people who continuously ignored chain of custody during Te election now claim it's sacrosanct. The hypocrisy is astounding with these swamp creatures. 

Speaking of Chain of custody, there's no excuse for taking those drives off-site for "safe keeping". Chain of custody was already broken for those vote totals. But @turbguy says there's nothing to see here, move along. Because…

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6 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Given that the DOJ is owned completely by the Demoncrats and always has been, this is unsurprising. It also demonstrates the mendacity of them, that they used their control of the Maricopa supervisors to stall, stall, stall, then claim with no support that the ballots needed to be moved. Everyone suspected it was a "chain of custody" ploy. Note the same people who continuously ignored chain of custody during Te election now claim it's sacrosanct. The hypocrisy is astounding with these swamp creatures. 

Mr Smith they are opening pandora's box,do you recall the supreme ct denying Trump a legal standing in regards to states election laws? Remember the constitution requires states to use their legislators to write election laws....and these states did not use the legislative process. Now the feds want to wander in and reopen the entire debacle? What lies in AZ that requires such risk's..The DOJ is playing a high stakes game here very high.

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1 hour ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

None of this matters. You're talking about a slice of a pie. 1400 years of jihad, and it's the crusades that were the failure? You're an idiot if you can't see the truth. 

Before that it's good to understand the near continuous many century war between the Byzantines (Christians) and the Sassanids (Zoroastrians):

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman–Persian_Wars

They basically traded provinces back and forth until both sides were exhausted. The Arabs conquered all of Sasanian Persia and half of East Rome in only six years right at the end of those wars.

Rarely is history pretty.

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31 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Given that the DOJ is owned completely by the Demoncrats and always has been, this is unsurprising. It also demonstrates the mendacity of them, that they used their control of the Maricopa supervisors to stall, stall, stall, then claim with no support that the ballots needed to be moved. Everyone suspected it was a "chain of custody" ploy. Note the same people who continuously ignored chain of custody during Te election now claim it's sacrosanct. The hypocrisy is astounding with these swamp creatures. 

Speaking of Chain of custody, there's no excuse for taking those drives off-site for "safe keeping". Chain of custody was already broken for those vote totals. But @turbguy says there's nothing to see here, move along. Because…

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Except that the DoJ is simply doing their job:

https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-voting-section

It's what the Voting Rights Act, by federal law, empowers the DoJ to investigate. That's not a partisan issue. 

What's partisan? Perhaps Barr changing long standing DoJ policy: https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-frees-federal-prosecutors-to-take-steps-that-could-interfere-with-elections-weakening-long-standing-policy

Or that one time that Barr was Trump's "fixer": https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-slams-ag-barr-over-mueller-report-vows-to-review-unredacted-version

 

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27 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

Except that the DoJ is simply doing their job:

https://www.justice.gov/crt/statutes-enforced-voting-section

It's what the Voting Rights Act, by federal law, empowers the DoJ to investigate. That's not a partisan issue. 

What's partisan? Perhaps Barr changing long standing DoJ policy: https://www.propublica.org/article/doj-frees-federal-prosecutors-to-take-steps-that-could-interfere-with-elections-weakening-long-standing-policy

Or that one time that Barr was Trump's "fixer": https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-slams-ag-barr-over-mueller-report-vows-to-review-unredacted-version

 

There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. 

Barr did nothing for Trump. That judge got to review the unredacted report, then he STFU because it was even worse for the Demoncrats without the redactions. Meanwhile where the hell is the report from Durham? Is there even such a person? 

Meanwhile Back in Arizona, perhaps you'll explain why not having access to the administrative passwords is a good thing? Dominion is in this up to their eyeballs. 

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On Nov 27, 2020 a federal appeals court rejected a Trump campaign proposal to block Biden from being declared the winner of Pennsylvania. (  here). At the time, Stephanos Bibas, on behalf of the three-judge panel wrote: “Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so." It added: “Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here."

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