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And as I posted earlier it is still irrelevant because at max it affects the 10,000 votes that came in after election day. Biden leads by over 40,000.

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18 minutes ago, Radha said:

Democrats, you are in deep trouble.

One can hope...

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2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Enthalpic will never accept that the rest of the world is not like him and that is the same as most Dems.  Just because your organizations cheat on large scale doesn't mean others do the same thing.  And, if there is any individual cheating on the Republican side, it is like comparing shoplifting to the Mafia, which is how the Dems do normal business.

The robustness of a clear and fair democratic process is far far above party politics. 

Whether you like or hate Trump / Biden there is no justification to cheat an election on the basis of keeping the other party out. Once we go down that route in the west we are no better than the Banana republic states of Africa / Latin America and parts of Asia. 

People justifying cheating an election to keep  Trump / Biden out of office are just the people who kept dictators like Mugabe in power and all the abuses that went with it. 

I see AOC wants to compile lists of 'Trump Sycophants' to hold them to account. Sounds very ominous - lists etc. 

 

 

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18 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

I prefer to describe it as highly defined with rigorous constraints. Not loosey goosey all over the place with undefined mental shamblings. ;)

Well, you can stay strapped into your mental straight-jacket, I have to help make policy depending on what the real (messy) world demands, and it requires flexible thinking and a set of balls larger than the Indian Ocean.

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8 minutes ago, Wombat said:

Well, you can stay strapped into your mental straight-jacket, I have to help make policy depending on what the real (messy) world demands, and it requires flexible thinking and a set of balls larger than the Indian Ocean.

Atta boy!  Real world.  Not this pansy want something for nothing, give me what I want or I'll scream in the aisle BS, never had to earn or pay their own way, by the incredibly easy to manipulate current younger generation.

They choose to disregard history as immaterial to the ends they want to achieve.  Ignoring history and reality leads to abject failure, plain and simple.

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Undermining US election process through unsubstantiated fraud claims is undermining US democracy.

You have any proof, go and report the fraud, otherwise you smear US democracy.

Trump era (2017-2020) will go down in history as the period of weakening US economy but most of all of America losing its moral compass.

President that lies on record over 10,000 times, which is openly dishonest, its his "art of the deal", is a phenomenon.

I think not many expected that Trump cultists movement would be so radicalized.

Ask yourself a question: Would you like Trump to keep his presidency , even if he lost to Biden ?

Do you like Trump more than American democracy ?

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13 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

So in your bizzaro world you can't have a J.D. and be an economist?

Law and economics or economic analysis of law is the application of economic theory (specifically microeconomic theory) to the analysis of law that began mostly with scholars from the Chicago school of economics. Economic concepts are used to explain the effects of laws, to assess which legal rules are economically efficient, and to predict which legal rules will be promulgated.[1] There are two major branches of law and economics.[2] The first branch is based on the application of the methods and theories of neoclassical economics to the positive and normative analysis of the law. The second branch focuses on an institutional analysis of law and legal institutions, with a broader focus on economic, political, and social outcomes.

My thesis adviser was Dr David Friedman, out of the University of Chicago Economics Department and Milton Friedman's son. 

No offense Jay, but I don't like the "Chicago Boys". I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein and your economic shock therapy seems to have failed miserably in every country it was applied. That is why I support the right to bear arms in America. At some stage, the foolish elitists such as yourself are going to have to answer for yourselves. Trump was Act 1 in the great "MAGA" movie and I have many more actors ready to make their debut. Facebook and Twitter cannot stop me, they are next on my hit-list. I actually want Biden/Harris to win this one coz I know there will be a depression of their making in the next few years. I want war with China, that is a pre-requisite to the renaissaince of the West, and I am confident I can force Biden's wrist.

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10 minutes ago, Wombat said:

No offense Jay, but I don't like the "Chicago Boys". I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein and your economic shock therapy seems to have failed miserably in every country it was applied. That is why I support the right to bear arms in America. At some stage, the foolish elitists such as yourself are going to have to answer for yourselves. Trump was Act 1 in the great "MAGA" movie and I have many more actors ready to make their debut. Facebook and Twitter cannot stop me, they are next on my hit-list. I actually want Biden/Harris to win this one coz I know there will be a depression of their making in the next few years. I want war with China, that is a pre-requisite to the renaissaince of the West, and I am confident I can force Biden's wrist.

I don't know who you are, @Wombat, but I like your style and I like your vision of the future, rough and tumble as it may need to be.

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1 hour ago, NickW said:

The robustness of a clear and fair democratic process is far far above party politics. 

Whether you like or hate Trump / Biden there is no justification to cheat an election on the basis of keeping the other party out. Once we go down that route in the west we are no better than the Banana republic states of Africa / Latin America and parts of Asia. 

People justifying cheating an election to keep  Trump / Biden out of office are just the people who kept dictators like Mugabe in power and all the abuses that went with it. 

I see AOC wants to compile lists of 'Trump Sycophants' to hold them to account. Sounds very ominous - lists etc. 

 

 

"Kristelnacht"?

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11 minutes ago, Wombat said:

"Kristelnacht"?

First they came for the Trump supporters and I did not speak out because i was not a Trump supporter

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1 hour ago, Dan Warnick said:

Atta boy!  Real world.  Not this pansy want something for nothing, give me what I want or I'll scream in the aisle BS, never had to earn or pay their own way, by the incredibly easy to manipulate current younger generation.

They choose to disregard history as immaterial to the ends they want to achieve.  Ignoring history and reality leads to abject failure, plain and simple.

With over 3 billion just handed out even with a split country gives socialist Republicans close to 1.5 billion. Then all those socialist businesses getting tax breaks while 20+ trillion in Federal debt. Cough-the rich. Now who’s manipulating the country? All this the reward for the previous Republicans crashing the economy and two wars. Well two big ones. Abject failure in policy like strobe light repetitively. 

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Some of you have moved on to #4

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9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Fraud has been Found!

USPS whistle blower has recanted his sworn affidavit!

He was grilled for 4 hours by inspector general office (claiming to be Federal agents) who pressured him to recant.  But they were messing with Project Veritas so guess what? The "interview" was recorded. Now you've got USPS people who have implicated themselves even further! The stupidity of the Demoncrats is the gift that just keeps giving. 

Guess what, WaPo is going to lose another lawsuit! 

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2 hours ago, shadowkin said:

Some of you have moved on to #4

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8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

It is a moot point because this fraud allegation can at most affect the 10,000 ballots that were received after election day. Not enough to matter. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/10/pennsylvanias-top-election-officer-says-just-10-000-ballots-were-received-after-nov-3-435972

The PA  tally of envelope receipts vs those sent out reveals that over 100k were returned via mail within 2 days or less, which is 1 day less than the shortest mail round trip ever made.

That is public record of backdating of ballots that requires no effort to prove in court and sufficient to Scrub PA's lead for Biden.

There is no way you can retain the delusion of "small scale" fraud in this election without consciously deciding to plug your ears and close your eyes.

Your feel good internal and social dialogues about this election are in clear opposition to the statistical evidence data scientists have come up with. As the hard sci guy that you are, it is just a matter of time that you will be overcome by the hard evidence of broad fraud.

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5 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

Undermining US election process through unsubstantiated fraud claims is undermining US democracy.

You have any proof, go and report the fraud, otherwise you smear US democracy.

Trump era (2017-2020) will go down in history as the period of weakening US economy but most of all of America losing its moral compass.

President that lies on record over 10,000 times, which is openly dishonest, its his "art of the deal", is a phenomenon.

I think not many expected that Trump cultists movement would be so radicalized.

Ask yourself a question: Would you like Trump to keep his presidency , even if he lost to Biden ?

Do you like Trump more than American democracy ?

The election fraud issue has been a longstanding source of American distrust in the system. It is not new. What is new is that for the first time in national politics someone is demanding the problem be investigated and fixed rather than the std. Republican reaction of standing down "for the good of the country".. It is precisely the fight against this kind of electoral fraud and general "swamp" corruption, that brought so many Trump voters to put him in office.

Your analysis is so upside down that I am not going to put in the effort to put up the charts that show the precise opposite. You are obviously incapable of reading economic numbers.

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5 hours ago, Wombat said:

No offense Jay, but I don't like the "Chicago Boys". I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein and your economic shock therapy seems to have failed miserably in every country it was applied. That is why I support the right to bear arms in America. At some stage, the foolish elitists such as yourself are going to have to answer for yourselves. Trump was Act 1 in the great "MAGA" movie and I have many more actors ready to make their debut. Facebook and Twitter cannot stop me, they are next on my hit-list. I actually want Biden/Harris to win this one coz I know there will be a depression of their making in the next few years. I want war with China, that is a pre-requisite to the renaissaince of the West, and I am confident I can force Biden's wrist.

The key thing is for Europeans to start having more babies than octogenarians.

The only way you can force Biden''s hand is to put the MSM and social media onto hammering the Biden China corruption story so that Biden is forced to act against China as forcefully or more so than Trump.

I agree that China's overcapacity and insistence on political and social censure against CCP critics is quite enough of a reason to make sure nothing ever leaves or reaches the mainland again, and to cut their cables.

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On 11/10/2020 at 11:57 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

Do you want your safe space back?

No, I'm feeling better by the hour. 

Especially since the Georgia Sec. of State just declared a hand vote of the presidential race. 

Of course, it may be that people like me have been reactionary, and that the degree of fraud was inconsequential. However, I'm betting that they find a substantial discrepancy, and that it triggers a similar response in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan--probably not by their volition but secondary to a court order issued by the Supreme Court. 

Remember the cockroach rule: If you see one, there's a herd of them. If Georgia (with its Dominion Voting System) is seen to have been hacked and the vote made fraudulent, God only knows how many ill-counted votes there were in America. 

But something tells me that we're about to find out. 😊 (a picture of me in my safe space). 

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On 11/9/2020 at 3:29 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

Maybe, maybe not. With the mood of the country, and the courts, frankly, it's going to be hard to get a look at the computer(s) in question.

So many analysis and data shown up to prove intentional and man-made discrepancies have occurred. It takes a leader to say the right thing and correct the wrong, to show how he is the best chosen leader....... no?

You might be right........ one each from those to work together. If they can't cooperate to work things out for the people and the country, both fired................ :P

 

On 11/9/2020 at 4:06 AM, Jay McKinsey said:

The truth is that Trump lost and it seems to be making conservatives very angry and the left very happy.

In a news clip, Mr. Biden was recorded saying something (roughly) like "it's embarrassing that they do not acknowledge defeat and accept that they have lost........."

Shall he is seeing or being informed of all these proves of fraudulence, the right things he should say could be.........

1. Just to be fair, all votes prior to the point and after glitches are void.

2. We should recount all states questioned........ as a democratic country

3. close to few hundreds thousands to a million of lost ballots in a few of the states?? How obvious is that?? People of these states should come out to vote again next Sunday. Lock down right? Everyone is free......

There, anybody can be appointed to be at a designated post.......... But, it takes crisis to find out the real leader in sought.......... no?

 

On 11/9/2020 at 6:47 AM, Ward Smith said:

Why is it states right next door to these battleground states were fully finished with vote counts the night of the election? Why is it the only states which can't count votes were the exact states needed for Biden to steal this election?

(kindly refer above) :$

 

On 11/10/2020 at 12:19 PM, Wombat said:

Couldn't be bothered. I watched a few uncut versions of Trump's speeches, and was dismayed by the media version every time.

The debates might have been the reason why he was cut off on news.......... The first one, Mr. Trump cut off Mr. Biden when he started with personal attack. Trump did not let him speak another word since and the debate was cut short......... Debate after that was cancelled due to positive test on covid 19.......... Resumed much later and have an optional mike where one can turn the mike off and on by the moderator.......... But, bias has formed.......

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Whole story is essential than partial information, no??

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7 hours ago, Wombat said:

No offense Jay, but I don't like the "Chicago Boys". I have read "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein and your economic shock therapy seems to have failed miserably in every country it was applied. That is why I support the right to bear arms in America. At some stage, the foolish elitists such as yourself are going to have to answer for yourselves. Trump was Act 1 in the great "MAGA" movie and I have many more actors ready to make their debut. Facebook and Twitter cannot stop me, they are next on my hit-list. I actually want Biden/Harris to win this one coz I know there will be a depression of their making in the next few years. I want war with China, that is a pre-requisite to the renaissaince of the West, and I am confident I can force Biden's wrist.

HaHa, I have explained many times that I rejected Chicago school econ after post doc analysis and finding it did not scale. That is why I am an exponential economist.  Funny though, you boys said I was stupid to have done so in those other threads. You guys don't know what it is you are thinking, your thoughts are loosey goosey shamblings all over the board and simply fit whatever self serving shiny narrative you have on any given day. You lack the ability to apply a principle consistently and equally, particularly to yourselves. Most days I don't know whether to laugh or cry witnessing the demonstrations on this forum of such blatant abject lack of knowledge and critical thinking about history, law, and economics. No offense Wombat but you suffer from delusions of grandeur hiding in anonymity. You are absolutely the core of the age of irrationalism that Dawkins was warning about. You are in such denial that you don't even believe it when Dawkins clearly says that Trump is irrational, dishonest and incompetent, stop making excuses:

 

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9 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Enthalpic will never accept that the rest of the world is not like him and that is the same as most Dems.

Impressive - you managed to deny your own statement within the same sentence.  Did you attend trump university?

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20 hours ago, Boat said:

With over 3 billion just handed out even with a split country gives socialist Republicans close to 1.5 billion. Then all those socialist businesses getting tax breaks while 20+ trillion in Federal debt. Cough-the rich. Now who’s manipulating the country? All this the reward for the previous Republicans crashing the economy and two wars. Well two big ones. Abject failure in policy like strobe light repetitively. 

Earth to Boat.  Can you hear me?  Earth to Boat.

Down here on Earth the pre-covid economy was the best its ever been.  Enter Covid, and pick your follow on effects, but the Right largely wanted/wants to re-open the economy given the data that has been collected and analysed to date.  The Left, on the other hand insists that we should ignore the data, continue draconian measures of lockdowns, and essentially provide social payments valued in the Trillions to keep the people alive since they can't return to work or travel.  Oh, and hey, as part of the Trillions they are asking all of us to provide, they want every citizen in the country to bail out their socialist utopia sanctuary cities that have failed.  But that's not enough for them either.  They want us to fund illegal aliens, their healthcare, housing, etc. and also pay for all their other socialist type programs and the individual State's debts.  Did I mention they also want us to pay for housing and other support programs for those poor bastards whose lives have been destroyed due to their policies and have been reduced to street dwelling drug addicts without a home.  Hmm, who's manipulating the country?

The economy has crashed, not because of Republicans, but because of the Left's reasons listed above and so much more.  Enjoy your strobe light, but be advised, it appears to be blinding you to reality.  Call it your projection syndrome.

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