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8 hours ago, surrept33 said:

He's responding to Trump. I don't know where Trump got that "news" from (maybe OANN?) but a lot of people seemed to interpret "entire database" that they deleted everything. We have no real idea what was deleted nor what relevancy it has anyways. A good faith audit would not be trying to score political points (against who? their OWN political party?) by releasing what may potentially be more misinformation.

Speaking of OANN, it's no wonder Trump loves "it's magnificent job revealing the fraud taken place". It seems like a typical alt-right alternative facts, fake news, parallel reality rag.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/18/business/media/oan-trump.html

 

 

OANN = National Inquirer

 

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BTW, if there will be a contest in 2024, it's gonna be very similar to Goldwater vs. Johnson.

Johnson turned out to the strongest president in my memory.

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30 minutes ago, turbguy said:

BTW, if there will be a contest in 2024, it's gonna be very similar to Goldwater vs. Johnson.

Johnson turned out to the strongest president in my memory.

That explains why he never ran for a second term.

How come you refuse to talk about your president? You never mention Biden, you just talk about his position as being unassailable no matter what, but you won't talk about his "accomplishments". Why is that? 

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19 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

That explains why he never ran for a second term.

How come you refuse to talk about your president? You never mention Biden, you just talk about his position as being unassailable no matter what, but you won't talk about his "accomplishments". Why is that? 

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There are almost times I believe men go thru that change in life. Rebel yell was a calling in the 60's. Ohh well.

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The pandemic came, and Democrats hunkered down for the biggest election loss since Reagan. They could feel it coming, as all Trump had to do was get in front of the pandemic, be somewhat presidential, say "I am in control", stand up and say let the science prevail and he would have cruised to victory. Put on a mask, do a lock down, don’t let up and make sure the politics all went his way but inexplicably, he REVERTED TO BE WHO HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

AMERICANS HAVE NEVER, EVER REJECTED THEIR LEADER IN A WAR NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY DISLIKED THEM.

He lied over and over. Melt down after melt down. The media always hovered over him, but now it wasn’t scandals, it was people dying. Around the world others were doing well and the US had more fatalities.  With Trump lying, THERE was the opening for the Democrats.

BLM caught fire and Trump smashed them to turn off more suburban voters.  More importantly, to terrify and energize black and brown voters. As the months wore on, more hope emerged for the Democrats, and steady Joe Biden was selected to run.

Joe simply waited for Trump to implode. Biden did all the right stuff, selected Kamala Harris, wore masks, didn’t argue with Trump, looked presidential and at the debates Trump did his typical meltdown, and Biden told him to shut up. Then Trump got COVID and his rallies took off, but Democrats and Independents came out in droves and used the GOP mail in ballots to their advantage.

Finally Trump pushed Barrett over the line and the last of the “I have to vote for Trump” reasons fell away to allow Biden to squeak over the line as the guy you can trust to end this madness.

And he has.

Lesson:  Don’t let a narcissistic president run a pandemic. He is good for the easier times, arguing with China, picking on NATO, or pulling out of global orgs (WHO, Paris Climate Accords, Iran deal, TPP) but not to great at doing a day job, especially when it cannot always be about “him”.  He has to be able to empathize and he just couldn’t do it. His hatred came out and eventually he threw away the easiest 2nd term victory in history.

It was stunning.  We all sat there and realized, Trump is actually doing this. He is grabbing his base while he is totally pissing off the rest of the country. While I couldn’t understand why, at least enough Democrats and Independents “got” that this was a once in a lifetime opening to strike back to possibly win.

Despite even more craziness and stolen election claims, it happened.  Donald Trump was vanquished, unprecedented in US history.  He absolutely destroyed himself, and then followed up with 3 months of meltdowns, including fomenting an insurrection. In the end he and his "toy wife" retired to Florida (like all rich guys seem to do).

So Trump handed the election to the Democrats, finishing off the year by giving the Senate to them as well, with the 2 gift Senate seats in Georgia.

Donald made up for all  his craziness, and now he is destroying the Republican party to boot!. And to think we disliked you because you took down HRC along with your Russian friends and Comey and the absolute arrogance and inability to really connect to just about anyone.

Donald, just keep doing what you are doing.

Meanwhile Biden is trying to fix the past 4 years with almost no majority, but without your insanity.  He wouldn’t be there and the USA would not be enacting legislation without the majorities you gave them in spite of the Progressives doing their best to undermine their own party.

The USA won, Donald.  America needs you to keep reminding them of what craziness does to the country and to never let it happen again.

 

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40 minutes ago, turbguy said:

The pandemic came, and Democrats hunkered down for the biggest election loss since Reagan. They could feel it coming, as all Trump had to do was get in front of the pandemic, be somewhat presidential, say "I am in control", stand up and say let the science prevail and he would have cruised to victory. Put on a mask, do a lock down, don’t let up and make sure the politics all went his way but inexplicably, he REVERTED TO BE WHO HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

AMERICANS HAVE NEVER, EVER REJECTED THEIR LEADER IN A WAR NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY DISLIKED THEM.

 

He lied over and over. Melt down after melt down. The media always hovered over him, but now it wasn’t scandals, it was people dying. Around the world others were doing well and the US had more fatalities.  With Trump lying, THERE was the opening for the Democrats.

 

BLM caught fire and Trump smashed them to turn off more suburban voters.  More importantly, to terrify and energize black and brown voters. As the months wore on, more hope emerged for the Democrats, and steady Joe Biden was selected to run.

Joe simply waited for Trump to implode. Biden did all the right stuff, selected Kamala Harris, wore masks, didn’t argue with Trump, looked presidential and at the debates Trump did his typical meltdown, and Biden told him to shut up. Then Trump got COVID and his rallies took off, but Democrats and Independents came out in droves and used the GOP mail in ballots to their advantage.

 

Finally Trump pushed Barrett over the line and the last of the “I have to vote for Trump” reasons fell away to allow Biden to squeak over the line as the guy you can trust to end this madness.

 

And he has.

 

Lesson:  Don’t let a narcissistic president run a pandemic. He is good for the easier times, arguing with China, picking on NATO, or pulling out of global orgs (WHO, Paris Climate Accords, Iran deal, TPP) but not to great at doing a day job, especially when it cannot always be about “him”.  He has to be able to empathize and he just couldn’t do it. His hatred came out and eventually he threw away the easiest 2nd term victory in history.

 

It was stunning.  We all sat there and realized, Trump is actually doing this. He is grabbing his base while he is totally pissing off the rest of the country. While I couldn’t understand why, at least enough Democrats and Independents “got” that this was a once in a lifetime opening to strike back to possibly win.

Despite even more craziness and stolen election claims, it happened.  Donald Trump was vanquished, unprecedented in US history.  He absolutely destroyed himself, and then followed up with 3 months of meltdowns, including fomenting an insurrection. In the end he and his "toy wife" retired to Florida (like all rich guys seem to do).

 

So Trump handed the election to the Democrats, finishing off the year by giving the Senate to them as well, with the 2 gift Senate seats in Georgia.

 

Donald made up for all  his craziness, and now he is destroying the Republican party to boot!. And to think we disliked you because you took down HRC along with your Russian friends and Comey and the absolute arrogance and inability to really connect to just about anyone.

 

Donald, just keep doing what you are doing.

Meanwhile Biden is trying to fix the past 4 years with almost no majority, but without your insanity.  He wouldn’t be there and the USA would not be enacting legislation without the majorities you gave them in spite of the Progressives doing their best to undermine their own party.

 

The USA won, Donald.  America needs you to keep reminding them of what craziness does to the country and to never let it happen again.

 

 

 

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Science being used in this pandemic? Your perception defies imagination. 

As time goes on much is being uncovered, Faucci will not fare so well that I can assure you. Nor will those who weaponized this virus for political gain. Cuomo the once darling of the Democratic resistance is on the Cuspid of total disgrace if not criminal charges, for his absolute malfeasance.

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39 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

That explains why he never ran for a second term.

How come you refuse to talk about your president? You never mention Biden, you just talk about his position as being unassailable no matter what, but you won't talk about his "accomplishments". Why is that? 

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Yes, these "claims" were made by Russian agent Derkach (and Rudy's buddy) in 2019 and 2020: https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/press-conference/688404.html

Mnuchin himself issued sanctions against Derkach: https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sm1118

Old news. Derkach has wild conspiracy theories that a "cabal" of Soros, Biden, Hillary, and Poroshenko are secretly running Ukraine. It's clearly in an effort to stir up pro-Russian feelings in the eastern Ukraine.  Derkach is wildey discredited even in the Ukraine because his basic claims are incorrect: https://www.axios.com/ukraine-burisma-bribe-09c70523-0548-45dc-a17c-c7afd9853a76.html

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8 hours ago, turbguy said:

The pandemic came, and Democrats hunkered down for the biggest election loss since Reagan. They could feel it coming, as all Trump had to do was get in front of the pandemic, be somewhat presidential, say "I am in control", stand up and say let the science prevail and he would have cruised to victory. Put on a mask, do a lock down, don’t let up and make sure the politics all went his way but inexplicably, he REVERTED TO BE WHO HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

AMERICANS HAVE NEVER, EVER REJECTED THEIR LEADER IN A WAR NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY DISLIKED THEM.

 

He lied over and over. Melt down after melt down. The media always hovered over him, but now it wasn’t scandals, it was people dying. Around the world others were doing well and the US had more fatalities.  With Trump lying, THERE was the opening for the Democrats.

 

BLM caught fire and Trump smashed them to turn off more suburban voters.  More importantly, to terrify and energize black and brown voters. As the months wore on, more hope emerged for the Democrats, and steady Joe Biden was selected to run.

Joe simply waited for Trump to implode. Biden did all the right stuff, selected Kamala Harris, wore masks, didn’t argue with Trump, looked presidential and at the debates Trump did his typical meltdown, and Biden told him to shut up. Then Trump got COVID and his rallies took off, but Democrats and Independents came out in droves and used the GOP mail in ballots to their advantage.

 

Finally Trump pushed Barrett over the line and the last of the “I have to vote for Trump” reasons fell away to allow Biden to squeak over the line as the guy you can trust to end this madness.

 

And he has.

 

Lesson:  Don’t let a narcissistic president run a pandemic. He is good for the easier times, arguing with China, picking on NATO, or pulling out of global orgs (WHO, Paris Climate Accords, Iran deal, TPP) but not to great at doing a day job, especially when it cannot always be about “him”.  He has to be able to empathize and he just couldn’t do it. His hatred came out and eventually he threw away the easiest 2nd term victory in history.

 

It was stunning.  We all sat there and realized, Trump is actually doing this. He is grabbing his base while he is totally pissing off the rest of the country. While I couldn’t understand why, at least enough Democrats and Independents “got” that this was a once in a lifetime opening to strike back to possibly win.

Despite even more craziness and stolen election claims, it happened.  Donald Trump was vanquished, unprecedented in US history.  He absolutely destroyed himself, and then followed up with 3 months of meltdowns, including fomenting an insurrection. In the end he and his "toy wife" retired to Florida (like all rich guys seem to do).

 

So Trump handed the election to the Democrats, finishing off the year by giving the Senate to them as well, with the 2 gift Senate seats in Georgia.

 

Donald made up for all  his craziness, and now he is destroying the Republican party to boot!. And to think we disliked you because you took down HRC along with your Russian friends and Comey and the absolute arrogance and inability to really connect to just about anyone.

 

Donald, just keep doing what you are doing.

Meanwhile Biden is trying to fix the past 4 years with almost no majority, but without your insanity.  He wouldn’t be there and the USA would not be enacting legislation without the majorities you gave them in spite of the Progressives doing their best to undermine their own party.

 

The USA won, Donald.  America needs you to keep reminding them of what craziness does to the country and to never let it happen again.

 

 

 

You deserve a good fiction award, as none of that was even remotely true.

Trump was elected, not Biden, Congress is not as Blue as reported. 

The only fall Trump had was around the time of his CV19 illness when his bravado on the issue seemed like so much egg on his face. But he recovered from that rapidly and Biden was nowhere to be seen. Attracted rental cars for his "rallies" had no electioneering video get attention, no viral videos of speeches, no popular memes. He was a public non entity. 

For people outside the blue states and blue governors, the economy rebounded quickly and rather early. Where Trump needed his lead, he had it on the economics and on the receding apparent breakouts, which turned out to be fake. 

Trump's attacks of BLM were met with applause from among the Black and Latino communities that saw BLM as a front for rioters and looters, and for everyone to see that they were about Marxism, not racism other than their own. That they were destructive thugs being protected by the "revolutionary" establishment at the very specific expense of people of color. 

Suburbanites in the near suburbs have been turning more black and Hispanic and government workers, all very Dem demographics traditionally. The failed inner cities they fled from did leave an impression that made them far less Dem leaning than they used to be. Urban black women were the leading demographic in penetration of gun ownership in 2020. That reads "not Democrat" in big bold red letters. Yet the suburbs only got a bit less red, but definitely did not support Biden. That "support" was by the same algorithm that provided Biden an average 5% advantage in counties where Dominion machines were used.  We are now looking to see is similar advantage was had by use of Runbeck election printing and services. There probably was. 

Trump did not turn off any suburban women that were not turned off to him in 2016, those were simply displaced by women of more Dem leaning demographics. 

Trump adhered to equal treatment by the law, which in the BLM Antifa Dem dogma (establishment and progressives) had  become "racist". 

At the end of the day, the Biden and Congressional and many local and state races will be found out to have been a pathetic showing for the Dems once the elections are forensically audited. The election day turnout in Dem strongholds was pathetic. Not because they voted by mail, but because Biden and their Dem candidates turned them off so badly they did not show up to vote at all. Registry surveys show that the Dem vote is composed of fake voters, and fake ballots voted by others at about a 20-30% if not worse. The reason the Dems had to resort to massive mail in cheating on top of.electronic cheating and to prepare a media show of a Biden presidency regardless of whether he had an official win or not, was because they are utterly repulsive to people who traditionally supported them. 

Trump is pursuing his election challenge via his supporters and the clean vote movement, which does not actually support him, but wants clean elections. He sparked the movement. Soros sent one of his operatives to run "stop the steal" in the hopes of turning it into a violent movement that could lead to civil war. It failed to do so. 

Trump is very much rescuing the Rep party from its establishment RINO leadership that reeks of corruption and Chinese bribery. The people he is removing are remnants of Nixon's party in their second and third generations in the Senate and House. Trump's voters are at least 80% of the party and they were well on their way to starting a 3rd party if the RINOs were to stay in place. I should point out that as Dr. Shiva so bluntly put it, cheating in Republican primaries is just as rampant as during elections in Dem precincts. 

The polls were suppression polls, they were incapable of capturing actual voter preferences even when they tried as the polling methodology has not kept up with the divergence in poll responses by different demographics. The best polls that bore out in election results were still far off from the reality of how people voted. The common polls from the liberal media were downright fraud by method and results. 

Your diatribe of MSM perceptions is as false as the MSM is. As with other countries that had their governments usurped by election fraud, so will this one find itself imprisoned for their fraud.

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11 hours ago, turbguy said:

The pandemic came, and Democrats hunkered down for the biggest election loss since Reagan. They could feel it coming, as all Trump had to do was get in front of the pandemic, be somewhat presidential, say "I am in control", stand up and say let the science prevail and he would have cruised to victory. Put on a mask, do a lock down, don’t let up and make sure the politics all went his way but inexplicably, he REVERTED TO BE WHO HE ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

AMERICANS HAVE NEVER, EVER REJECTED THEIR LEADER IN A WAR NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY DISLIKED THEM.

 

He lied over and over. Melt down after melt down. The media always hovered over him, but now it wasn’t scandals, it was people dying. Around the world others were doing well and the US had more fatalities.  With Trump lying, THERE was the opening for the Democrats.

 

BLM caught fire and Trump smashed them to turn off more suburban voters.  More importantly, to terrify and energize black and brown voters. As the months wore on, more hope emerged for the Democrats, and steady Joe Biden was selected to run.

Joe simply waited for Trump to implode. Biden did all the right stuff, selected Kamala Harris, wore masks, didn’t argue with Trump, looked presidential and at the debates Trump did his typical meltdown, and Biden told him to shut up. Then Trump got COVID and his rallies took off, but Democrats and Independents came out in droves and used the GOP mail in ballots to their advantage.

 

Finally Trump pushed Barrett over the line and the last of the “I have to vote for Trump” reasons fell away to allow Biden to squeak over the line as the guy you can trust to end this madness.

 

And he has.

 

Lesson:  Don’t let a narcissistic president run a pandemic. He is good for the easier times, arguing with China, picking on NATO, or pulling out of global orgs (WHO, Paris Climate Accords, Iran deal, TPP) but not to great at doing a day job, especially when it cannot always be about “him”.  He has to be able to empathize and he just couldn’t do it. His hatred came out and eventually he threw away the easiest 2nd term victory in history.

 

It was stunning.  We all sat there and realized, Trump is actually doing this. He is grabbing his base while he is totally pissing off the rest of the country. While I couldn’t understand why, at least enough Democrats and Independents “got” that this was a once in a lifetime opening to strike back to possibly win.

Despite even more craziness and stolen election claims, it happened.  Donald Trump was vanquished, unprecedented in US history.  He absolutely destroyed himself, and then followed up with 3 months of meltdowns, including fomenting an insurrection. In the end he and his "toy wife" retired to Florida (like all rich guys seem to do).

 

So Trump handed the election to the Democrats, finishing off the year by giving the Senate to them as well, with the 2 gift Senate seats in Georgia.

 

Donald made up for all  his craziness, and now he is destroying the Republican party to boot!. And to think we disliked you because you took down HRC along with your Russian friends and Comey and the absolute arrogance and inability to really connect to just about anyone.

 

Donald, just keep doing what you are doing.

Meanwhile Biden is trying to fix the past 4 years with almost no majority, but without your insanity.  He wouldn’t be there and the USA would not be enacting legislation without the majorities you gave them in spite of the Progressives doing their best to undermine their own party.

The USA won, Donald.  America needs you to keep reminding them of what craziness does to the country and to never let it happen again.

Bullshit

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

Bullshit

Hard to swallow truth, no?

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14 hours ago, 0R0 said:

Suburbanites in the near suburbs have been turning more black and Hispanic and government workers, all very Dem demographics traditionally. The failed inner cities they fled from did leave an impression that made them far less Dem leaning than they used to be. Urban black women were the leading demographic in penetration of gun ownership in 2020. That reads "not Democrat" in big bold red letters. Yet the suburbs only got a bit less red, but definitely did not support Biden. That "support" was by the same algorithm that provided Biden an average 5% advantage in counties where Dominion machines were used.  We are now looking to see is similar advantage was had by use of Runbeck election printing and services. There probably was. 

 

I'd say Trump lost almost exclusively because of the suburbs. This also happened in 2018 midterms, so no surprise. 

Case in point, look at Georgia. Despite all of focus on Fulton county,  Fulton and Dekalb county, which is usually what people think about in terms of urban Atlanta, were virtually unchanged relatively to 2016 in terms of either how much of a percentage of the total Georgia vote, or how Democratic they were.

It was all of the other suburban Atlanta counties (that used to be a sea of red) that both had a upswing in turnout, and had a pronounced shift towards the Democrats. Democrats didn't win back very many rural areas, which is probably based on Trump's economic messaging to bring back manufacturing jobs (but he did not in mass). Imho, this will take a while to fix since there are structural issues at play, but focusing on more high tech manufacturing might help. Remember the "manufacturing councils" early in the Trump administration? I wish he had focused on that type of stuff rather than his trade war w/ China. This was folly and didn't really "fix" anything. In fact, our trade balance is the same (if you care about this). 

You can make the same argument in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, Detroit, Phoenix, Milwaukee, etc.

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Trump adhered to equal treatment by the law, which in the BLM Antifa Dem dogma (establishment and progressives) had  become "racist". 

Trump was a nativist. IMHO, this is silly in a country of immigrants, and especially shocking to me since he's from New York City, one of the most diverse places in North America, but not surprising due to a long history of this type of thinking. His optics relative to race relations were not good. 

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Trump is pursuing his election challenge via his supporters and the clean vote movement, which does not actually support him, but wants clean elections. He sparked the movement. Soros sent one of his operatives to run "stop the steal" in the hopes of turning it into a violent movement that could lead to civil war. It failed to do so. 

Republicans have been crying foul of voter fraud for years, it wasn't just Trump. 

Soros is a ultimate boogie man. Yes, he gives to a lot of causes he believes in. In the United States, he does it within the confines of the law which were often opened up by Republicans to enable big dollar donations to institutions that have political activities. 

 

Soros' own words:

“I basically have had excellent press in most Western countries for longer than one could hope for. It's only when it became boring to hear about all of my wonderful deeds that people started picking holes. So I shouldn't feel too bad about it. But there's something that I find much more disturbing. Because of my exaggerated power, I have become a prime target for the current version of the anti-Semitic conspiracy theory. If there was ever a man who would fit the stereotype of the judoplutocratic Bolshevik Zionist world conspirator, it is me. And that is, in fact, how I am increasingly depicted in Eastern Europe and also to some extent in Western Europe, but not so much in America. This is a prime example of how good deeds don't go unpunished. My original purpose in setting up the Open Society Foundation was to create a society where this kind of conspiracy theory wouldn't flourish; but in the process of advocating an open society, I amassed a sort of mystic power that actually fostered the conspiracy theory. Don't you see the irony?

I wonder whether this is anything more than what happens when you attain a certain level of celebrity? In the beginning, you become a news curiosity and the press wants to write about you because you're successful. But after everybody knows everything about you, the only thing that is interesting is to find a reason to attack you. So I think this just comes with the territory. I don't think it's anything deeper than that.

That is because you are an American and you are not attuned to the kind of myths that prevail in Europe, particularly in the Eastern part. Anti-Semitism has very deep roots. It predates Hitler. It goes back to the pogroms of 

“Anti-Semitism has very deep roots. It predates Hitler. It goes back to the pogroms of the late last century and even further. It subsists in the dark recesses of people's minds and it breaks out into the open in times of trouble, turbulence, and confusion.”

Excerpt From: George Soros. “Soros on Soros: Staying Ahead of the Curve.” Apple Books. 

 

What is the "super secret" goal of Soros? IMHO, it's more or less to cultivate societies where people are able to have many differing opinions but can use critical thought to resolve differences. It's more or less an anti-communist/anti-totalitarian movement.

 

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Trump is very much rescuing the Rep party from its establishment RINO leadership that reeks of corruption and Chinese bribery. The people he is removing are remnants of Nixon's party in their second and third generations in the Senate and House. Trump's voters are at least 80% of the party and they were well on their way to starting a 3rd party if the RINOs were to stay in place. I should point out that as Dr. Shiva so bluntly put it, cheating in Republican primaries is just as rampant as during elections in Dem precincts. 

Dr. Shiva seems like another conman: https://www.inverse.com/article/12676-this-man-desperately-wants-you-to-believe-he-invented-email-he-didn-t 

I would take any of his claims with a verrrrrry large grain of salt. He's only famous because of his ability to self-market himself based on false claims. 

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Your diatribe of MSM perceptions is as false as the MSM is. As with other countries that had their governments usurped by election fraud, so will this one find itself imprisoned for their fraud.

IMHO, governance can always made better (but it is very subjective what "better" is). Free and fair elections are the best way to do it, and having a informed, engaged, electorate is important. The leader of the government (Trump) spreading lies, deception, and bad faith allegations is absolutely the hallmark of what many authoritarian dictators do to subvert democracy and calcify their own power. 

It just doesn't work, and won't work in a country with strong history of institutions and the rule of law like the United States. Not that we can't get better, we always can. 

 

Military interventions like in Myanmar are almost always the absolutely wrong way to reform things when there is a democracy. The Myanmar junta didn't like the fact that they lost their election after decades in power. 

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1 hour ago, turbguy said:

Hard to swallow truth, no?

If there was a single word of truth in your diatribe I didn't see it

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2 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

If there was a single word of truth in your diatribe I didn't see it

No pandemic?

No outright lies from Trump?

No Joe Biden as #46?

No truth, eh?

To make matters worse, WHY won't he publicly support and encourage his followers to be vaccinated?  It was HIS program that helped advance the treatment, and he and his wife were even vaccinated themselves.

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...and don't forget this from Trump, actually encouraging people to vote fraudulently.

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/trump-encourages-north-carolina-residents-vote-twice-test-mail-system-n1239140

Perhaps Trump could claim the prize from Republican Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick, who offered a $1 million reward for anyone who brought forward a valid complaint of fraud (part of an effort by GOP officials to put a spotlight on alleged irregularities).

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2 hours ago, turbguy said:

To:      The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors and the Maricopa County Recorder
From:  Elections Department Staff and Recorder’s Information Technology Staff

So, the "report" is from the employees to their employers. No employee in the history of working has either told their bosses exactly what they want to hear, nor lied. 🙄

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6 hours ago, turbguy said:

No pandemic?

No outright lies from Trump?

No Joe Biden as #46?

No truth, eh?

To make matters worse, WHY won't he publicly support and encourage his followers to be vaccinated?  It was HIS program that helped advance the treatment, and he and his wife were even vaccinated themselves.

Trump Trump Trump. i get you suffer from TDS but who is the ducking President? Your hero Xiden, who you completely and utterly ignore!

No truth: No pandemic (it's a flu, flu deaths are nonexistent in 2020 according to the CDC) no lies from Trump (just generated lies via "fact checking", conveniently shut down under Xiden). No Xiden #46 (fraud, viz 175 pages of evidence you continue to ignore). 

The Eejit bragged that he had made a "conservative" account to trick people into upvoting. For a while I thought it could be Eyes Wide Open, then I decided drugs or booze caused his glitches. You kept up a good front, but the TDS runs too similar to Eejit and the writing style, which you hid with short comments came right back with the long diatribe. 

That's part of a 95 mile long rally for Trump in Arizona. Xiden couldn't draw flies. The modems are in the machines the vendors swore didn't have them. I leave you to your meltdown

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12 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Trump Trump Trump. i get you suffer from TDS but who is the ducking President? Your hero Xiden, who you completely and utterly ignore!

No truth: No pandemic (it's a flu, flu deaths are nonexistent in 2020 according to the CDC) no lies from Trump (just generated lies via "fact checking", conveniently shut down under Xiden). No Xiden #46 (fraud, viz 175 pages of evidence you continue to ignore). 

The Eejit bragged that he had made a "conservative" account to trick people into upvoting. For a while I thought it could be Eyes Wide Open, then I decided drugs or booze caused his glitches. You kept up a good front, but the TDS runs too similar to Eejit and the writing style, which you hid with short comments came right back with the long diatribe. 

 

 

 

At least you are admitting who is president.

I have no need to meltdown.  I just state my opinions, and observations.

Concerning Trump's lies, I recall a recorded conversation he had with Mr. Woodard concerning COVID-19.  Then Trump talked just the opposite to both you and I on television.  THAT was inexcusable. So inexcusable, IMO, he was not fit to serve.  That one occurrence led me to confirm that the reports of his repeated lies were more true than not.

I do not need to "rename" others, nor disparage others.

I need say no more.

 

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2 hours ago, turbguy said:

At least you are admitting who is president.

I have no need to meltdown.  I just state my opinions.

Concerning Trump's lies, I recall a recorded conversation he had with Mr. Woodard concerning COVID-19.  Then Trump talked just the opposite to both you and I on television.  

THAT was inexcusable.

I need say no more.

Completely meaningless. Opinion versus policy versus Fauxi changing policy like he changes underwear. But I get it, Trump is living rent free in what's left of your brain. 

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9 hours ago, surrept33 said:

Dr. Shiva seems like another conman: https://www.inverse.com/article/12676-this-man-desperately-wants-you-to-believe-he-invented-email-he-didn-t 

I would take any of his claims with a verrrrrry large grain of salt. He's only famous because of his ability to self-market himself based on false claims. 

He is trying to get credit for it, not the first guy with a claim to a fundamental invention, does not make him any less accomplished. And he comes off as more honest than anyone attacking him.

 

9 hours ago, surrept33 said:

Excerpt From: George Soros. “Soros on Soros: Staying Ahead of the Curve.” Apple Books. 

 

What is the "super secret" goal of Soros? IMHO, it's more or less to cultivate societies where people are able to have many differing opinions but can use critical thought to resolve differences. It's more or less an anti-communist/anti-totalitarian movement.

He is an ardent Nazi, using Nazi and Stalinist tactics, there is barely room for sheet of paper between Nazi and Commie in reality. He is one of the pillars of the globalist cabal and his cronies infect the world with NGOs and control Dominion to overthrow governments in over 30 countries. His recipe is fixed, color revolution, Nazi brown shirts indistinguishable from Antifa and BLM whether in Columbia, Myanmar, Brazil, Mexico, Ecuador, Germany, Ukraine, Netherlands or the US. Dominion or other smartmatic licensee runs the numbers to select a fake government. 

You need to take your head out of the MSM and dedicate a few weeks to learn the globalist corporatist cabal trying to establish global fascism. During that time avoid all the MSM you normally go to. 

9 hours ago, surrept33 said:

'd say Trump lost almost exclusively because of the suburbs. This also happened in 2018 midterms, so no surprise. 

Case in point, look at Georgia. Despite all of focus on Fulton county,  Fulton and Dekalb county, which is usually what people think about in terms of urban Atlanta, were virtually unchanged relatively to 2016 in terms of either how much of a percentage of the total Georgia vote, or how Democratic they were.

It was all of the other suburban Atlanta counties (that used to be a sea of red) that both had a upswing in turnout, and had a pronounced shift towards the Democrats. Democrats didn't win back very many rural areas, which is probably based on Trump's economic messaging to bring back manufacturing jobs (but he did not in mass). Imho, this will take a while to fix since there are structural issues at play, but focusing on more high tech manufacturing might help. Remember the "manufacturing councils" early in the Trump administration? I wish he had focused on that type of stuff rather than his trade war w/ China. This was folly and didn't really "fix" anything. In fact, our trade balance is the same (if you care about this). 

You can make the same argument in the suburbs of Pittsburgh, Detroit, Phoenix, Milwaukee, etc.

Those counties are still a sea of red, what has changed was just like it had in Arizona (aside from demographics I pointed to before) or CA before that. The swelling of the registries with fake voters, now up to 367k identified so far. The Dominion algorithm becomes more aggressive in shifting voted from Rep to Dem candidates (particularly statewide or national) the stronger the Rep vote is in the county or precinct. Look to Shiva's early analysis of several Biden/Trump races by county or precinct.   The stats you are tracking over time are not of a changing political demographic, so much as it is a continuing creep and intensification of election fraud infecting adjacent areas to city centers where it had been practiced from time immemorial. The core Dem urban voter is not showing up to vote. They have been disenfranchised so long, they got the message and don't go to the polls. Dems lost in the Gingrich Congress and never recovered. That is why they had to blow up their cheating into megalithic proportions that requires concerted deliberate action to ignore. Such as you are doing 

 

Trump is strong on race relations. He has a dated manner in addressing ethnic issues, but it is not what the media portrays.. You really should refrain from taking any mainstream media as fact. I am not even sure the date on the NYT masthead is true. The rest of the content is advertising. Much of it political. The coverage of CNN starts with gross exaggeration and ends with entirely fabricated stories complete with studio product news "events" with a familiar cadre of crisis actors. Trump increased the Rep take among blacks and latinos by large margins over his predecessor Rep candidates for president. 

 

The manufacturing councils are what brought him to agree more completely with Navarro and take the trade dispute with China to where he brought it. I wish he had managed to prosecute the election fraud of 2018 rather than wait to catch the Dems in a far bigger sting operation over the 2020 elections. 

 

The trade balance is due to the sharp demographic structure difference between the US and most everywhere else, particularly China and SK+Japan. They have an older saving demographic and a small young family consuming demographic. They are structurally exporters. The US has a balanced young family demographic now growing rapidly. and the US has been exurbanizing since 1950 so suffers less of the urban effect on suppressing birth rates. The US (and France, Argentina, Turkey, India, Angola) are structurally importers. The US has the highest margin industries once you take out the artificial regulatory costs. If China didn't have its currency at 1/2 its PPP equivalent exchange rate, it would not have had an export in any industry. The gold standard would make China into the new Italy  as it would instantaneously deindustrialize without the advantage of a suppressed currency just as Italy saw so much of its industry collapse in the Euro zone once they could not subsidize capital and counter a  lack of productivity with a lower currency. 

The world does not work as the economic textbooks say it does. 

 

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8 hours ago, 0R0 said:

He is an ardent Nazi, using Nazi and Stalinist tactics, there is barely room for sheet of paper between Nazi and Commie in reality. He is one of the pillars of the globalist cabal and his cronies infect the world with NGOs and control Dominion to overthrow governments in over 30 countries. His recipe is fixed, color revolution, Nazi brown shirts indistinguishable from Antifa and BLM whether in Columbia, Myanmar, Brazil, Mexico, Ecuador, Germany, Ukraine, Netherlands or the US. Dominion or other smartmatic licensee runs the numbers to select a fake government. 

 

Soros was born in 1930 and in 1944, he fled Hungary when the Nazis invaded. Seems unlikely he'd be a "ardent nazi".  He arguably helped speed up the demise of communism with his activities in eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union in the 1980s: https://www.georgesoros.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/underwriting_democracy-chap-1-2017_10_05.pdf

Soros is the favorite boogieman of a lot of autocrats and people who tend not to in favor of democracy. 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/george-soros-transfers-18-billion-to-his-foundation-creating-an-instant-giant-1508252926?mod=djemalertNEWS

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8 hours ago, 0R0 said:

Those counties are still a sea of red, what has changed was just like it had in Arizona (aside from demographics I pointed to before) or CA before that. The swelling of the registries with fake voters, now up to 367k identified so far. The Dominion algorithm becomes more aggressive in shifting voted from Rep to Dem candidates (particularly statewide or national) the stronger the Rep vote is in the county or precinct. Look to Shiva's early analysis of several Biden/Trump races by county or precinct.   The stats you are tracking over time are not of a changing political demographic, so much as it is a continuing creep and intensification of election fraud infecting adjacent areas to city centers where it had been practiced from time immemorial. The core Dem urban voter is not showing up to vote. They have been disenfranchised so long, they got the message and don't go to the polls. Dems lost in the Gingrich Congress and never recovered. That is why they had to blow up their cheating into megalithic proportions that requires concerted deliberate action to ignore. Such as you are doing 

 

 

 

This is every suburb in the country. 86% of suburban counties shifted towards the Democrats. With how decentralized our voting system is, you are more or less suggesting voter fraud everywhere. 

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8 hours ago, 0R0 said:

The manufacturing councils are what brought him to agree more completely with Navarro and take the trade dispute with China to where he brought it. I wish he had managed to prosecute the election fraud of 2018 rather than wait to catch the Dems in a far bigger sting operation over the 2020 elections. 

 

The trade balance is due to the sharp demographic structure difference between the US and most everywhere else, particularly China and SK+Japan. They have an older saving demographic and a small young family consuming demographic. They are structurally exporters. The US has a balanced young family demographic now growing rapidly. and the US has been exurbanizing since 1950 so suffers less of the urban effect on suppressing birth rates. The US (and France, Argentina, Turkey, India, Angola) are structurally importers. The US has the highest margin industries once you take out the artificial regulatory costs. If China didn't have its currency at 1/2 its PPP equivalent exchange rate, it would not have had an export in any industry. The gold standard would make China into the new Italy  as it would instantaneously deindustrialize without the advantage of a suppressed currency just as Italy saw so much of its industry collapse in the Euro zone once they could not subsidize capital and counter a  lack of productivity with a lower currency. 

The world does not work as the economic textbooks say it does. 

 

Well, in addition to demographics, US consumer spending lubricates the world (and US) economy. 

What do you think the fair value of the Yuan is? The gold standard is not going to happen in China or any other major economy. It isn't to any one's benefit (except maybe gold bugs) to cause so much deflation. 

I'd like to see more anti-mercantilist reforms in China.  I think multilateral treaties combined with strategic rebuilding of strategic manufacturing in the United States are the best way to get there.

The dilemma with goods is still the few jobs that are created in modern factories (and some of the supply chain) relative to historical norms. This effect may also happen in China as it goes up the value chain.

Our services based trade balance is looking a lot better; 

 

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1 hour ago, surrept33 said:

This is every suburb in the country. 86% of suburban counties shifted towards the Democrats. With how decentralized our voting system is, you are more or less suggesting voter fraud everywhere. 

 

You are mistaken in analyzing this data before reverse engineering the enlargement of fake registries and fake ballot and count manipulations to come back to actual numbers. The shifts are shifts in the number of fake Dem ballots, not of actual voter composition shifts towards Dems. It has been a 20 year project that has grown election fraud from a local cottage industry to a highly centralized electronic fraud machine via smartmatic software embedded within all digital vote and tabulation system in the US (and worldwide), coupled with coordination with 3 main ballot printers that provide 80% of the ballots or so. At the center of the web stand CIA and partners like some NATO intel agencies and the CCP. 

You are trying to prove shifts that are smaller and subtler than they appear in raw  election stats that are highly distorted by electoral fraud, it is like building on quicksand. Now that census data are up to date, we can start cleaning up the historical election data with probable fraud bias estimates and analyze actual voting and political support trends. But anything going on in political stats prior to 2020 in surveys has to be recalculated after repair of the vote counts so that the weightings used by pollsters actually correspond to reality, which they can't because there is so much more fraud with each progressing election cycle. 

 

There is much discussion of a gold standard transition. Since you stick to MSM, which are there to HIDE the news and distract from important events and trends, and to report fictional narratives, you are missing on what the global financial agenda and its current state of war are actually about. 

The goods producing industries produce most of their impact in adjacent businesses rather than their own employment of permanent staff. 

The Chinese export situation is obfuscating some issues in the industrial and trade stats. China has used free electricity to maintain strategic industries within China long after they started producing losses. Only 2 of 25 or so regional electric companies were breaking even as a result, and Coal companies have been going bankrupt due to non payment. Other subsidy mechanisms maintain or expand many other industries. It takes a substantial effort to unravel each one. But you can take some lessons from such actions as the switch to blast furnaces using local coal and ore vs. arc furnaces using imported high grade ore and coke. The 30-40% efficiency loss is justified by the gain in margin in forex flow terms, not having a forex outflow for inputs allows them to continue exporting finished steels, otherwise, their steel industry would have been much shrunken. 

You should also keep in mind that China's economy is not run for profit but to meet targets imposed by leaders following dogma.. Thus the "GDP hole" is a characteristic make work activity that produces GDP stats, employs people and consumes inputs, but produces nothing anyone is willing to pay for. This "fake GDP" figure keeps growing in China, as you can see in some of my posts here on the issue, mostly over a year ago. 

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3 hours ago, surrept33 said:

Soros was born in 1930 and in 1944, he fled Hungary when the Nazis invaded. Seems unlikely he'd be a "ardent nazi".  He arguably helped speed up the demise of communism with his activities in eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union in the 1980s: https://www.georgesoros.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/underwriting_democracy-chap-1-2017_10_05.pdf

 

The history is irrelevant. The claims of supporting "democracy" are bogus, as is book's theory of reflexivity. The real work giving Soros an edge was inside information. If you read his financial market theory, outside of identifying contrarian opportunities it is solid bunkum. 

The Soros NGOs routinely support violent extremists on both ends of a fake political spectrum that opposes fascism and communism to each other, while in reality they are not different in principle from each other. None of Soros' efforts are FOR and open society, but targets democratic processes and open societies. The names of his NGOs are specifying of targets for destruction. At least the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation states "for population reduction" in the title's subtext. Why would anyone follow vax or medical or food tech ideas or products this admitted eugenicist spouts, nor let his organizations within your country's borders, not to speak of letting him into your medical or food systems. His NGO faces criminal charges in India and several African countries are coming on board. 

He is demented by Hegelian dialectics. He can't express himself otherwise. He was and remains a dangerous Nazi. 

 

As to what it coming, note the Q decodes of the Law of War manual indicating the military tribunals for crimes against humanity for biowarfare targeting Fauci, Redfield and Birx, UK royals, Saudi Bin Talal, various Rothchilds and Rockefellers, Gates, Clinton, executives of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca, J&J, WHO, CCP and many other "untouchables"  This one is a rather brilliant reading.

https://rumble.com/vgwzr5--law-of-war-the-storm-series-2-the-core-theory-in-10-small-proofs.html

Note that the DC square is foreign soil of the USA corp. not part of these 50 United States, but an occupation force upon them since FDR declared war on the several states and declared  them captive in 1933.  ALL of the Federal government is under violations of the Law of War (Geneva Convention, Rome conference, Nuremberg code) and may be tried by the several states and have reprisals taken against them. The author of the video is not looking at that aspect. But he is looking at the Biden administration as a Chinese occupying force in DC, which is what the 120 Generals were declaring to Biden in a somewhat indirect way.

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7 hours ago, 0R0 said:

The history is irrelevant. The claims of supporting "democracy" are bogus, as is book's theory of reflexivity. The real work giving Soros an edge was inside information. If you read his financial market theory, outside of identifying contrarian opportunities it is solid bunkum. 

The Soros NGOs routinely support violent extremists on both ends of a fake political spectrum that opposes fascism and communism to each other, while in reality they are not different in principle from each other. None of Soros' efforts are FOR and open society, but targets democratic processes and open societies. The names of his NGOs are specifying of targets for destruction. At least the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation states "for population reduction" in the title's subtext. Why would anyone follow vax or medical or food tech ideas or products this admitted eugenicist spouts, nor let his organizations within your country's borders, not to speak of letting him into your medical or food systems. His NGO faces criminal charges in India and several African countries are coming on board. 

He is demented by Hegelian dialectics. He can't express himself otherwise. He was and remains a dangerous Nazi. 

 

As to what it coming, note the Q decodes of the Law of War manual indicating the military tribunals for crimes against humanity for biowarfare targeting Fauci, Redfield and Birx, UK royals, Saudi Bin Talal, various Rothchilds and Rockefellers, Gates, Clinton, executives of Pfizer, Moderna, Astra Zeneca, J&J, WHO, CCP and many other "untouchables"  This one is a rather brilliant reading.

https://rumble.com/vgwzr5--law-of-war-the-storm-series-2-the-core-theory-in-10-small-proofs.html

Note that the DC square is foreign soil of the USA corp. not part of these 50 United States, but an occupation force upon them since FDR declared war on the several states and declared  them captive in 1933.  ALL of the Federal government is under violations of the Law of War (Geneva Convention, Rome conference, Nuremberg code) and may be tried by the several states and have reprisals taken against them. The author of the video is not looking at that aspect. But he is looking at the Biden administration as a Chinese occupying force in DC, which is what the 120 Generals were declaring to Biden in a somewhat indirect way.

Hopium is a bad drug

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22 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Hopium is a bad drug

I am distinctly not hoping for a military coup or for the military to be called upon to take over because the civilian gov. had fallen apart and is not capable of upholding law and order. It is simply the most likely outcome. The Q narrative purports it to be the only solution for a crooked system of government so subverted that criminal conspiracy is the main means of governance, decision making and choosing officeholders. Indeed, it implies that the military had taken over behind the scenes some time ago and that the happenings of "Washington" splattered across the media are a staged "movie" run by marionettes of the former powerful and their clueless sycophants still unaware that their leaders are a captured operation. It is  intended to wake up the masses to the fact that they are the butt end of a social structure with a satanic pedovore cult at its head hell bent on killing 90 % of the population. That they had been enslaved by them for millennia, that they have usurped democratic governments across the world and in the US for decades if not centuries.  

None of this is even remotely inspiring hope.. 

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