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2 hours ago, notsonice said:

Judge dismisses Antrim County election fraud lawsuit

Clara Hendrickson
Detroit Free Press May 18, 2021

An Antrim County judge dismissed an election fraud lawsuit Tuesday that has served as a vehicle to advance the unfounded conspiracy theory that tabulators manufactured by Dominion Voting Systems switched votes last fall from Donald Trump to Joe Biden.

More than six months after the election, the lawsuit sought an audit of Michigan’s election results. Michigan election officials already undertook a statewide audit of the presidential election starting in January in which more than 18,000 randomly selected ballots from more than 1,300 jurisdictions were reviewed by clerks.

The Bureau of Elections found that the tabulators counted ballots properly and uncovered no evidence of widespread issues with the machines.

The judge declared the case moot, ruling Central Lake Township resident Bill Bailey, who brought the lawsuit, had already been granted the forensic imaging of the election equipment he requested and there had also been a lawful election audit.

"There is no reason to do it twice," 13th Circuit Court Judge Kevin Elsenheimer said during the Tuesday hearing.

Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, a defendant in the lawsuit, praised the ruling. 

"The dismissal of the last of the lawsuits attempting to undermine democracy in furtherance of the Big Lie affirms that despite intense scrutiny, and an unprecedented misinformation campaign, the 2020 election was fair and secure, and the results accurately reflect the will of the voters," she said in a statement.

Attorney General Dana Nessel said the ruling "should be the nail in the coffin for any remaining conspiracy theories surrounding the outcome of the Nov. 3 general election." 

The lawsuit was filed Nov. 23, 2020, the same day that the Board of State Canvassers certified Michigan's election results.

It alleged that tabulators used in Antrim County were preprogrammed to switch votes. But in fact, a human error led to inaccurate election night reporting of the unofficial results, which showed Biden winning the GOP stronghold.

The error was caught and corrected the next morning, the results were certified and a hand recount of the ballots affirmed Trump's victory. Trump won the county with more than 61% of the vote. 

More:No, Michigan hasn’t requested full forensic audit of election results

There is no evidence of widespread fraud in the Nov. 3 election. Judges across the country dismissed lawsuits filed in battleground states across the country seeking to delay and derail the certification of election results. The lawsuit against Antrim County seemed to be the only one alleging election fraud that remained active. Meanwhile, Dominion has filed defamation lawsuits against Trump allies and news organizations that peddled misinformation about its machines. 

Matthew DePerno, the Portage attorney who represented Bailey, warned that dismissing the lawsuit would leave a cloud over all future elections.

"How can anyone trust the system in the future?" he asked.

Bailey did not vote in the recent May 4 election because he no longer trusts Dominion's voting machines, DePerno said during a May 10 hearing in the case. 

In December, Elsenheimer authorized a forensic examination of the tabulators used in Antrim County.

The investigation resulted in a flawed report by a self-proclaimed cybersecurity expert who mistook voting jurisdictions in Minnesota for Michigan and made wildly inaccurate claims about voter turnout in Michigan in two other election lawsuits that sought to overturn the results.

More:Fact check: No, an algorithm did not manipulate Michigan’s election results

Another analysis filed in support of the Antrim County lawsuit falsely claimed that an algorithm was deployed in Michigan's election system to manipulate the results.

In making the case against the lawsuit's dismissal during the May 10 hearing, DePerno said that Bailey's request for an independent audit of Antrim County's election hadn't been granted. Elsenheimer ruled Tuesday that it had. 

A newer provision of the Michigan Constitution enacted when voters backed no-reason absentee voting gives voters the right to have the results of statewide elections audited.

But it does not give Bailey the right to a custom audit, Elsenheimer said Tuesday.

More:Antrim County hand tally affirms certified election results

During a news conference Monday in Traverse City hosted by DePerno, a crowd cheered on the lawsuit and DePerno's call for an audit in Michigan like the one being carried out in Maricopa County, Arizona.

The audit in the state's most populous county has breathed new life into Trump's baseless claim that the election was stolen from him. 

Jack Sellers, the Republican chairman of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors, which oversees the county's elections, called the work carried out by the Florida-based firm Cyber Ninjas hired for the job "a grift disguised as an audit" during a meeting Monday.  

"One should be more concerned about what this exercise is costing us in time and money and why the ninjas can't even find files that were already given to them by Maricopa County," Sellers said. 

Cyber Ninjas provided analysis to support the fraud allegations leveled in the Antrim County lawsuit and the firm's CEO has promoted election fraud claims, the Arizona Republic reported.

 

Your collection of antifacts will not help you outside the MSM echochamber. Nobody else is watching or listening to it any longer. 

 

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19 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

As opposed to a real audit based on bamboo fed chicken.

I do believe your on to something there, One Yr Free chicken nuggets (bamboo fed) with each purchase of new Telsa 3*

*restrictions apply.

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7 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Doesn't sound like the Rep legislature wants anything to do with him:

100 Percent Fed Up Reports – With the exception of one brave patriot, Rep. Matt Maddock (R), every sitting MI state lawmaker has refused to respond to DePerno’s request to sit down with him and go over the information he and his team forensic experts have obtained in their investigation into Antrim County’s November election, where over 5,000 votes were flipped from President Trump to Joe Biden.

https://ussanews.com/News1/2021/05/19/exclusive-interview-antrim-co-attorney-matthew-deperno-will-appeal-judges-decision-to-dismiss-voter-fraud-caseinvestigation-isnt-limited-to-mi/

That isn't how it plays. They will be pressured. Showing a united front for their sponsor's benefit is one thing. Risking getting booted out in the next election by a noname with a Trump endorsement is something different. Not stepping up may cost the legislators their primaries. The pressure on them will be growing from the grass roots. This is just a step on the way. 

The sponsors can only go so far. Floods of money are not enough to get elected post 2020, or even to win a primary.. 

 

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23 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

As opposed to a real audit based on bamboo fed chicken.

The disappeared ballots from Maricopa are presumed to have been from an air shipment from China that had been tracked to Maricopa. The bamboo content would have shown them not to have been printed by the local Runbeck printer. So those were removed and shredded, as the story goes, the shredded ballots ended up in an election board's chicken farm building that burned down in quick order. 

However outlandish the story, the fact remains that the content of the ballot boxes did not match their documented counts and were >17% short. Thus putting doubt in the results, and assures the auditors that the final count will be short of what the official one presented and put AZ in Trump's hands. What the BofS was doing was eliminating the evidence of Chinese collusion by fishing out the bamboo laced ballots. Won't help them much, because they are still related to Dominion and Dominion's network during the count was hooked up to Chinese IP addresses at Huawei China Telecom and many others. So that may save the BodS necks from outright treason, it does not let them off scott free.

But it does look like Dominion is being set up to take the fall for the election fraud as a foreign interfered election, since the hard evidence shows Dominion controlled the  electronic portion of the election, its networking, and the sharing of operations with China and other countries. The Dems and RINOs are preparing for defending the paper ballot stuffing part of the fraud, but that is unlikely to save them from the dreaded "foreign" part since 5 million ballots were printed up in China without proper watermarks. The registry stuffing software that generated fake voter registrations from fake voters was apparently sourced and operated in China as well. 

Will look up what you said of the deleted (or not) files.

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6 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

The Dems and RINOs are preparing for defending the paper ballot stuffing part of the fraud, but that is unlikely to save them from the dreaded "foreign" part since 5 million ballots were printed up in China without proper watermarks.

There are no watermarks on any of the ballots. 

The CEO of Runbeck Election Services, the company that orders the ballot paper and prints ballots for the county, told The Arizona Republic on Wednesday that there are no tracking marks or watermarks on the paper they used in this election. Maricopa County's Election Department also said there are no watermarks on the paper.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/04/28/arizona-election-auditors-running-ballots-under-uv-light-why/4880548001/

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1 minute ago, Jay McKinsey said:

There are no watermarks on any of the ballots. 

The CEO of Runbeck Election Services, the company that orders the ballot paper and prints ballots for the county, told The Arizona Republic on Wednesday that there are no tracking marks or watermarks on the paper they used in this election. Maricopa County's Election Department also said there are no watermarks on the paper.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2021/04/28/arizona-election-auditors-running-ballots-under-uv-light-why/4880548001/

There were UV visible markings in text on the ballots. Not hard to insert a watermarked paper supply Runbeck management were not aware of. It is one of Pieczinik's claims that the DIA intervened to insert watermarked papers going into the ballot printers. The Chinese printers on a published video call were discussing the fact that they could not reproduce the watermarks on the originals they were sent. The person making the order did not care, presumably because he thought there was no watermark

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13 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

There were UV visible markings in text on the ballots. Not hard to insert a watermarked paper supply Runbeck management were not aware of. It is one of Pieczinik's claims that the DIA intervened to insert watermarked papers going into the ballot printers. The Chinese printers on a published video call were discussing the fact that they could not reproduce the watermarks on the originals they were sent. The person making the order did not care, presumably because he thought there was no watermark

Got a link to that video call?

What happens when none, absolutely none of the ballots has a watermark?

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3 hours ago, turbguy said:

You can now expect some to here to respond that the judge was wrong.

Anything to squeeze their hopes into a justification.

"Q" will come up with something.  It ain't that hard.

The lawsuit was dismissed as were countless others, because it was "moot", not because the claims lacked substance. But armchair journalists are putting words in the judge's mouth that weren't spoken or written. 

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18 hours ago, notsonice said:

2022 will not be a good year for those who are hoping Trump will get them a win.

 

New York state investigation into Trump is now a criminal probe

The probe is “no longer purely civil in nature,” a spokesperson for state Attorney General Letitia James confirmed to POLITICO.

The New York state attorney general’s examination of the Trump Organization is now also a criminal investigation, a spokesperson for the attorney general said on Tuesday night.

The investigation is “no longer purely civil in nature,” Fabien Levy, the spokesperson for New York Attorney General Letitia James, confirmed to POLITICO by email. “We are now actively investigating the Trump Organization in a criminal capacity, along with the Manhattan D.A. We have no additional comment at this time.”CNN was the first to report the news on Tuesday night.

James’ office is undertaking a sweeping probe of former President Donald Trump and his family over allegedly misstating property values to get tax benefits. In February, the Supreme Court paved the way for Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr.’s team to get eight years of Trump’s tax returns and financial records as a part of Vance’s criminal probe into potential tax, insurance and bank fraud.

The new development appears to expand the potential liability for Trump, who is now facing separate criminal probes from prosecutors in New York, and also suggests collaboration in the two investigations.

James’ inquiry started in 2019 after former Trump attorney Michael Cohen said in a congressional hearing that Trump had inflated the value of assets to banks to get better loans and insurance, while undervaluing them to cut his tax liability. Vance's investigation has also appeared to be focused on allegations from Cohen, who has also claimed Trump committed fraud while dealing with insurance companies, which Trump and the Trump Organization have denied.

James' office has focused on Trump properties that include the Trump International Hotel and Tower in Chicago and 40 Wall Street in New York City.

James pledged to hold Trump accountable, and she spearheaded or joined into dozens of efforts to challenge the Trump administration on a number of issues when Trump was in office. Last fall, a judge ordered the former president’s son Eric Trump to answer questions under oath as part of the investigation.

“The court’s order today makes clear that no one is above the law, not even an organization or an individual with the name Trump,” James said in a statement at the time.

Jen Weisselberg, former daughter-in-law of Allen Weisselberg, chief financial officer of the Trump Organization, has said she is cooperating with both probes.

Both James and Vance are Democrats. Trump has previously called the investigations a politically motivated "witch hunt."

Vance is stepping down Dec. 31, as he said in March that he won't be running for reelection. Vance's probe has also scrutinized possible hush-money payments to women for Trump.

A spokesperson for Vance’s office declined to comment Tuesday night.

The New York Times has reported that Trump has paid little in taxes, including just $750 in federal taxes in 2017, a report which Trump called “fake news.” Their reporting also indicated he has gotten some hefty refunds.

Law enforcement officials in Florida have been preparing for the scenario in which Vance could potentially indict Trump while he’s at his Mar-a-Lago club in Florida, sources have previously told POLITICO.

Potential extradition of Trump could be complicated, as Florida law allows Gov. Ron DeSantis, a prominent Trump ally, the ability to step in and investigate if anyone indicted “ought to be surrendered” for an out-of-state indictment. If Trump were at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., when indicted, it would likely be different, as the state has laws similar to Florida’s on extradition but also has a Democratic governor.

Representatives for Trump and the Trump Organization did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Trump himself has responded.

Sure you don't want Trump back? Your pathetic life is so empty now without him to gnash your teeth about. CNN has lost all their viewers. Prices are out of control as inflation takes over. Here's an idea

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Got a link to that video call?

What happens when none, absolutely none of the ballots has a watermark?

There was at least one link to a copy of the video call 100 or so pages ago. 

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1 hour ago, 0R0 said:

Will look up what you said of the deleted (or not) files.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/maricopa-county-audit-team-admit-files-deleted-able-recover-files-video/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

There is some discussion elsewhere of the files having been in a different directory and the BofS did not tell anyone where that would be, just went on and on about the metadata and the SQL file records modified with the date of shut down etc. as you quoted. The BofS still did not include a location of the file in their replies, perhaps because that would indicate that they did have something to do with the international digital election fraud. It is in their interest at this point to keep the control entirely on the Dominion  Still not clear if that was what they found, or that they reconstructed it from the disk, or both. Cyber Ninjas imply reconstruction. 

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Why aren't we talking about Xiden and his excellent driving? Because he's driving the entire country into a ditch perhaps? 

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19 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/maricopa-county-audit-team-admit-files-deleted-able-recover-files-video/?utm_source=Gab&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons

There is some discussion elsewhere of the files having been in a different directory and the BofS did not tell anyone where that would be, just went on and on about the metadata and the SQL file records modified with the date of shut down etc. as you quoted. The BofS still did not include a location of the file in their replies, perhaps because that would indicate that they did have something to do with the international digital election fraud. It is in their interest at this point to keep the control entirely on the Dominion  Still not clear if that was what they found, or that they reconstructed it from the disk, or both. Cyber Ninjas imply reconstruction. 

They most certainly did include a location for the files. They were in a directory called surprisingly Database at the root level of the Drive. on the EMS Primary Server. It was clearly sated several times. 

They reconstructed it from the disk in the sense that they followed the instructions on how to properly reconstruct the database. Ugh!

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Most. Secure. Election. Ever.

Odd that no matter what ballot got entered into the machine it was counted as democrat. This is happening now because now people are looking for it!

Conspiracy? 

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18 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

They most certainly did include a location for the files. They were in a directory called surprisingly Database at the root level of the Drive. on the EMS Primary Server. It was clearly sated several times. 

They reconstructed it from the disk in the sense that they followed the instructions on how to properly reconstruct the database. Ugh!

No, but thanks for playing. Will you slink off again? You usually do when caught making a boo boo 

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31 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

No, but thanks for playing. Will you slink off again? You usually do when caught making a boo boo 

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Imagine that fake new's....Now a technical, is not a password required to delete files on a window's OS? I do believe that is the case, to that point i was under the impression the county did not have the passwords for these machines...Interesting.

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2 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

The lawsuit was dismissed as were countless others, because it was "moot", not because the claims lacked substance. But armchair journalists are putting words in the judge's mouth that weren't spoken or written. 

So the judge was right.

As I said, coming up with the "something" was easy.

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7 minutes ago, turbguy said:

So the judge was right.

As I said, coming up with the "something was easy.

You understand moot? It basically means too late, as in they delayed and delayed until it was too late to change anything. It doesn't mean fraud didn't occur, just means in that judge's opinion that it's too late to deal with it. Meanwhile the only reason Antrim county was caught was because the county is so red that no one could believe the results. The algorithm steals votes from non blue counties to hide that they're being stolen. Otherwise you'd see preposterous numbers like 138,873 votes all for Biden at 0300 in the morning. Oh wait, we did see that. Trump won by so much, simple cheating couldn't work anymore so they had to resort to blatant Theft

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

No, but thanks for playing. Will you slink off again? You usually do when caught making a boo boo 

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Simple answer, he's lying to save face. Yesterday he said he had the information he needed and then Senator pushed him on this point asking him if he really had what he needed or did he still needed to get any data from the county. He confirmed "I have the information I need". But now he says he is still testing the the database to ensure that it is usable. Those statements are incompatible.

Which brings up the gorilla in the room question. Why would the county delete the database in the first place when the Senate would just come right back and ask for another copy?

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8 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Which brings up the gorilla in the room question.

Not at all, Biden has quickly removed that issue...If she can still pass the backround check...run run Cindy head for the hill's.

Cindy McCain to be named Biden ambassador to UN program: report

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/547628-cindy-mccain-to-be-named-biden-ambassador-to-un-program-report

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47 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Simple answer, he's lying to save face. Yesterday the Senator asked him if he still needed to get any data from the county or did he have what he needed. He answered "I have the information I need", in fact he said it twice. But now he says he is still testing the database to ensure that it is usable. Those statements are incompatible. 

Which brings up the gorilla in the room question. Why would the county delete the database in the first place when the Senate would just come right back and ask for another copy?

Gee, why would they sue the Senate rather than comply with subpoenas? Why would they claim the routers were on a pallet when they weren't? Why would they then make up a cock and bull story about protecting law enforcement IP addresses? Those addresses should be non routable if they're inside the firewall, and if they're not, they have bigger problems. They used this opportunity to buy all new gear, but still won't relinquish the old. Why is that? What are they so afraid of? If the auditors are so incompetent, they should have nothing to fear, no? Why didn't they show up for the testimony at the Senate? 

Why have they ignored multiple requests from the Senate, including requests for admin passwords? There's passwords for the boxes, but there's different passwords for the databases. Their "crack team" flat out lied about the SQL zero byte artifact. It doesn't work that way. I could go on. Watch the video yourself, don't just take MSM word for everything. 

The video is queued up here. You get to see what he said before "I have the information I need". Egg. On. Your. Face. 

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53 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Simple answer, he's lying to save face. Yesterday he said he had the information he needed and then Senator pushed him on this point asking him if he really had what he needed or did he still needed to get any data from the county. He confirmed "I have the information I need". But now he says he is still testing the the database to ensure that it is usable. Those statements are incompatible.

Which brings up the gorilla in the room question. Why would the county delete the database in the first place when the Senate would just come right back and ask for another copy?

He is unlikely to be lying. The Maricopa board, having disregarded Subpoenas and acted as if their position is external to the AZ Senate's reach have every reason to be suspected of lying, because any findings of fraud make them at the very least accessories and incompetent as they appear to have let Dominion and their oft partnered Runbeck conduct about half the count BEFORE delivering the ballots to the board up to 7 days  after the election. 

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

Gee, why would they sue the Senate rather than comply with subpoenas? Why would they claim the routers were on a pallet when they weren't? Why would they then make up a cock and bull story about protecting law enforcement IP addresses? Those addresses should be non routable if they're inside the firewall, and if they're not, they have bigger problems. They used this opportunity to buy all new gear, but still won't relinquish the old. Why is that? What are they so afraid of? If the auditors are so incompetent, they should have nothing to fear, no? Why didn't they show up for the testimony at the Senate? 

Why have they ignored multiple requests from the Senate, including requests for admin passwords? There's passwords for the boxes, but there's different passwords for the databases. Their "crack team" flat out lied about the SQL zero byte artifact. It doesn't work that way. I could go on. Watch the video yourself, don't just take MSM word for everything. 

The video is queued up here. You get to see what he said before "I have the information I need". Egg. On. Your. Face. 

Firewall and router are likely the same devices and at a bare minimum they are likely to have a large number of port mappings for various servers and services that are routable. This is normal.

Do you have any evidence that they bought all new gear?

What they fear from the incompetent auditors is that the information will be leaked or hacked.

They didn't show at the hearing because this whole thing is a clown show.

The passwords are for Dominion intellectual property which has been explained at length. The previous audits worked with Dominion employees to access that part of the system.

Regarding the video - The MFT file issue and his claim that the files were deleted is refuted by the County response I posted above p176. But of course you didn't bother reading it because it was long and complex, sorry they didn't provide a meme version for you. Watch out for that egg...

 

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3 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

You understand moot? It basically means too late, as in they delayed and delayed until it was too late to change anything. It doesn't mean fraud didn't occur, just means in that judge's opinion that it's too late to deal with it.

 

So the judge was right.

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1 hour ago, turbguy said:
5 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

You understand moot? It basically means too late, as in they delayed and delayed until it was too late to change anything. It doesn't mean fraud didn't occur, just means in that judge's opinion that it's too late to deal with it.

 

So the judge was right.

That means the Judge has ulterior motives. He is distinctly wrong, as he relies on a fake "audit" to make the case "moot" as if the "audit" fulfilled the required consequence of the suit. Which it did not. It was not even an actual audit and its outcome was not published, only a statement as to the SoS conclusion. Again, Dems/RIMOs wave hands and claim they fulfilled a legal requirement. They should be tried for each case such action is done for criminal fraud, perjury, obstruction of justice, as too should their judges that accept such claims.  

Curious to see what criminal pressure was put on the Judge to sway him away from lawful decisions. 

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