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On 1/4/2021 at 7:56 PM, Jeffrey Brown said:

Re:  Ward Smith & Trump's Accusation of Election Fraud Against Cruz in 2016

It seems to me that you guys have to choose Door #1 (Trump lied about Cruz's election fraud in 2016) or Door #2 (Cruz committed election fraud in 2016).  

If Trump lied about election fraud in 2016, why isn't he lying now?  

And if Cruz committed election fraud as alleged by Trump (notice the pattern of no evidence BTW), how could Cruz credibly address his questions about the various state elections?  

Or to summarize, is Trump a liar or is Cruz a crook?

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Here's what happened. You've got a screen grab of a deleted tweet, but you knew that. Cruz did lie about Trump supporting obamacare, but since Trump was a newcomer to politics he didn't really know the rules of the road. He quickly learned that the law of the land allows politicians to lie. That's why there's countless examples of Pelosi lying along with Swalwelll, Schiff and so on. But they're Demoncrats so they get a pass from the MSM. Kinda like Biden. 

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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

 

As an aside, notice when I say something to @Jeffrey Brown @Enthalpic immediately downvotes it? Almost like they're one and the same person but the Eejit can't keep track of its identity? Kind of amusing in a sad pathetic way. 

I down vote all the crap you post.  It is impossible to detect a connection using logic, only your fantasies of which you have many.

Keep trying, keep failing, keep entertaining - dance on my puppet. 

 

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30 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

You've got a screen grab of a deleted tweet, but you knew that.

So by wards logic covering up past statements is okay.

"Let's pretend I didn't say that."  Honesty and integrity?

Sorry trump you are constantly being recorded and you can't just delete your BS. The internet never forgets.

 

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4 hours ago, Jeffrey Brown said:

Re:  Eyes Wide Open

Perhaps I missed your response to the following question:

And why were more GOP House candidates fraudulently elected, while the Democratic candidate for the presidency was fraudulently elected to the White House?

Chip Roy objects to seating 67 lawmakers from states Trump disputes to highlight GOP election hypocrisy

The Republican made the procedural move to highlight his opposition to some GOPers efforts to not certify Democrat Joe Biden’s White House victory

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2021/01/04/texas-rep-chip-roy-objects-to-seating-some-house-members-as-gop-feud-over-november-election-results-intensifies/

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WASHINGTON – Austin Rep. Chip Roy, in a dramatic escalation in the GOP feud over whether to challenge Democrat Joe Biden’s White House win, on Sunday night objected to the seating of his House colleagues elected in the six states where President Donald Trump disputes the results.

Roy, a conservative firebrand, used the tactic to underscore his opposition to the efforts by some Republicans – including several Texans – to not certify Biden’s victory on Wednesday.

The Republican’s point was that if anyone is claiming the presidential election in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin was marked by widespread fraud, then the same would have to hold true for the down-ballot candidates elected in those states.

“Those representatives were elected through the very same systems — with the same ballot procedures, with the same signature validations, with the same broadly applied decisions of executive and judicial branch officials,” he said.

Yes rather mysterious is it not...Trump being targeted. It would mean a certain block of humanity perceived Trump as a threat, TDS comes to mind..it actually is now considered a mental irregularity.....with the internet considered to be a "safe place"

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/talking-about-men/201901/is-trump-derangement-syndrome-real-mental-condition?page=1

 

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12 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

Be (sic) quickly learned that the law of the land allows politicians to lie.

To Mr. Smith's credit, he finally admitted that Donald Trump falsely accused Cruz of election fraud. 

So, given that Trump has a history making false allegations of election fraud, why is he not lying about Biden and the "Deep State" stealing* the election now?  The common connection in both cases is Trump alleging election fraud after he lost. 

 

*The Deep State apparently conspired to increase the number of GOP Representatives and to award the Presidency to Biden. 

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George Will:  "Absence of evidence is the most sinister evidence"

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Why does everyone forget that Politicians have an inherent fear of the Truth. That's why they Lie all the time.

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A very important current analysis of the Chinese CCP threat to America, and the West.

 

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WSJ OpEd:  An Awesome Spectacle of Dishonesty and Opportunism

Cynical opportunism is the currency of democratic politics. . . . 

But even those long familiar with spectacles of careerist expediency dressed up in faux-altruistic casuistry can only step back in awe when evidence of a new standard of cynical self-aggrandizement comes along. So it is this week with the spectacle of around 150 Republican members of Congress who will on Wednesday refuse to approve the presidential election results returned last month by the Electoral College.

The action, by more than half the Republican members of the House and almost a quarter of GOP senators, may rank among the most cynically contrived, morally contemptible, soul-corrupting acts of political degeneracy ever attempted . . . .

Tellingly, the only documentation in their bill of complaint is a reference to a Reuters-Ipsos poll citing widespread distrust of the election outcome. It isn’t clear if any of them spotted the irony—the only thing less trusted these days than mail-in voting is opinion polling.

There are, it seems, enough principled conservatives to expose and oppose this cant. As Rep. Liz Cheney (R., Wyo.) put it this weekend, the proposed vote would set “an exceptionally dangerous precedent, threatening to steal states’ explicit constitutional responsibility for choosing the president and bestowing it instead on Congress.”

Doubtless, the members of Congress signing up for this week’s odious little exercise assume they will be rewarded by the ranks of angry Republican voters. Perhaps so. Let’s hope for their sakes that the gain thus achieved is large enough to fill the hole where their principles might once have been.

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38 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

A very important current analysis of the Chinese CCP threat to America, and the West.

 

Interesting comment on foreign interference and that the intel 'community' are doing their job in terms of looking into if that is likely.

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12 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

So by wards logic covering up past statements is okay.

"Let's pretend I didn't say that."  Honesty and integrity?

Sorry trump you are constantly being recorded and you can't just delete your BS. The internet never forgets.

 

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You cant even understand what two separate issues the tweet is referring to.

 

Why do you lie, and then try to cover it up? 

Never forget, I'm only a 2.5hr drive away. We could meet up and discuss this in person, after all. 😘

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22 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Never forget, I'm only a 2.5hr drive away. We could meet up and discuss this in person, after all. 😘

@Enthalpic my moneys on QCV, Good luck!

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Huge surprise, in Georgia today in heavily Republican districts, all the dominion machines just happen to be down. The poll workers say, "Just give us your ballots, we'll run them for you". They're being filmed, but they're counting on a corrupt Biden presidency and no jail time. They could be right. They could also find themselves dangling from a rope. 

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I have reached my BS limit, so I'll take one more shot at a post until the mood strikes again.  It's really pretty exhausting trying to use common sense and logic with a group who is so convinced they are right, yet they are proven wrong again and again and again.

On 1/3/2021 at 12:33 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

I find it ironic as hell that we have Canadians, presumably in the oil and gas business, who have witnessed utter destruction of their industry at home, eager to denounce us for defending our industry from the likes that ruined theirs!

This is just too, too rich!

I don't think I for one am trying to denounce you for defending your industry (I'm just an investor). I guess that if this is your sole reason for defending Trump, then I can actually understand that.  It's the fact that Trump represents so much more and is a complete and utter narcissist.  Like a car wreck, sadly, it is hard not to sit back and find it interesting to watch and perhaps comment on.

 

On 1/3/2021 at 12:33 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

And to top it off, suggesting that you admire American spunk and aggression, our ability to throw caution to the wind and just by God go for it, but wonder in the same breath why we as a civilized nation won't just accept some jacked-with election data . . . well, that just leaves me flabbergasted. 

My various comments about admiring Americans are completely sincere.  But accepting "jacked-with election data"?  You can believe all the things that are in front of you (States certifying elections from both parties, judges who have/haven't heard cases, the Attorney General of the US, etc.) OR you can scour the internet for propaganda videos, links and graphs that "prove" your point and lead to mass insanity.  Unfortunately, most on here have chosen the latter.  You sincerely believe that the ENTIRE court system, in this example over 90 judges on both sides of the political spectrum, are just hopelessly corrupt?  This is not a reasonable thing to believe, but the internet has you worked up into a fervor.

 

On 1/3/2021 at 12:33 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

Canadians, my fellow friends, please don't presume to tell us what is wrong with our government and our country. Trust me, we know. And don't presume to come onto this forum--a place ostensibly where oil and gas people come to share ideas about how to survive an onslaught like no other--and lecture us about just how goddamn fair this election was. We don't know that and neither do you because no one was allowed to analyze the election in detail. 

I think it's pretty naive to think that this is a place (this particular forum thread) where oil and gas is discussed - it left that station a long time ago.  People are free to comment on the topic of the election, regardless of where they are from, so don't get your shorts in such a knot.

 

On 1/3/2021 at 12:33 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

If you truly admire our way of life down here, are positively amazed at our spunk and determination, then give us a little wiggle room. At a time when the Democrats were burning our cities, toppling our statues, cursing the police, I didn't read a single Canadian comment about how atrocious that was, or a simple kindness of asking how you might help.

Goodness man, to use your words, that's rich!  How I might help as a poster on an oil/gas forum often called out by the Grand Wizard as a sock puppet, communist or low IQ idiot?  C'mon really?  It was atrocious, no question.  Sorry I didn't state that, thought it was just sort of accepted.

 

On 1/3/2021 at 12:33 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

I am at the point where I have just two more words for you: piss off. 

Sad that you end like that, but hey, I tried my best too.

To @Ward Smith, one last thing (maybe).  I find it hilarious yet sad that you can't ever have a moderated opinion of anything.  Our police have an altercation with a family, caught on video, and all of a sudden, they are the gestapo and we are Nazis (according to your post)?  You are a true beauty.  You'll be happier if everything you look at isn't immediately taken down a slippery slope to absolute madness.  I guess the only other sad yet hilarious thing about you is that you keep coming back, no matter how many times you are proven wrong.  I suspect ther will be more of that this week, maybe tomorrow.  Good luck.

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5 hours ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

Never forget, I'm only a 2.5hr drive away. We could meet up and discuss this in person, after all. 😘

Sure big boy.

Southside Edmonton.

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9 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

@Enthalpic my moneys on QCV, Good luck!

Well you would lose that money. 

Old conservatives are old, generally very old.

Plus I am rather scrappy.  You may notice I'm not that nice.

 

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37 minutes ago, UNC12345 said:

I have reached my BS limit, so I'll take one more shot at a post until the mood strikes again.  It's really pretty exhausting trying to use common sense and logic with a group who is so convinced they are right, yet they are proven wrong again and again and again.

I don't think I for one am trying to denounce you for defending your industry (I'm just an investor). I guess that if this is your sole reason for defending Trump, then I can actually understand that.  It's the fact that Trump represents so much more and is a complete and utter narcissist.  Like a car wreck, sadly, it is hard not to sit back and find it interesting to watch and perhaps comment on.

 

My various comments about admiring Americans are completely sincere.  But accepting "jacked-with election data"?  You can believe all the things that are in front of you (States certifying elections from both parties, judges who have/haven't heard cases, the Attorney General of the US, etc.) OR you can scour the internet for propaganda videos, links and graphs that "prove" your point and lead to mass insanity.  Unfortunately, most on here have chosen the latter.  You sincerely believe that the ENTIRE court system, in this example over 90 judges on both sides of the political spectrum, are just hopelessly corrupt?  This is not a reasonable thing to believe, but the internet has you worked up into a fervor.

 

I think it's pretty naive to think that this is a place (this particular forum thread) where oil and gas is discussed - it left that station a long time ago.  People are free to comment on the topic of the election, regardless of where they are from, so don't get your shorts in such a knot.

 

Goodness man, to use your words, that's rich!  How I might help as a poster on an oil/gas forum often called out by the Grand Wizard as a sock puppet, communist or low IQ idiot?  C'mon really?  It was atrocious, no question.  Sorry I didn't state that, thought it was just sort of accepted.

 

Sad that you end like that, but hey, I tried my best too.

To @Ward Smith, one last thing (maybe).  I find it hilarious yet sad that you can't ever have a moderated opinion of anything.  Our police have an altercation with a family, caught on video, and all of a sudden, they are the gestapo and we are Nazis (according to your post)?  You are a true beauty.  You'll be happier if everything you look at isn't immediately taken down a slippery slope to absolute madness.  I guess the only other sad yet hilarious thing about you is that you keep coming back, no matter how many times you are proven wrong.  I suspect ther will be more of that this week, maybe tomorrow.  Good luck.

Whatever you say Enthalpic sock puppet.  I've never been proven wrong by the likes of you and never will. Meanwhile back on topic

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57 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Huge surprise, in Georgia today in heavily Republican districts, all the dominion machines just happen to be down. The poll workers say, "Just give us your ballots, we'll run them for you. They're being filmed, but they're counting on a corrupt Biden presidency and no jail time. They could be right. They could also find themselves dangling from a rope. 

Mr. Smith i urge you to go back to your youthful day's, GO BIG OR GO HOME. This thought process occurs when the stakes are high and the rewards are enormous. If you have not noticed this thread has seen a sudden resurgence of new voices dissenting on any conversation or accumulation of information that may well lead to a investigation. 

What drives these new and old voices...anxiety, passion and rage, there is quite a bit on the line here. The closer we come to the final conclusion the more we will see the negative messaging...

There will be a great effort to kill the message of restoring America...and they will Go Big...there is a lot on the line. Do Not Look for intelligent well founded thoughts anticipate Anarchy...Perhaps one of the fundamental issues that caused Mr. Jan van Eck to no longer participate..

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49 minutes ago, UNC12345 said:

so don't get your shorts in such a knot.

Oh their tight, off-white briefs are completely knotted.

It is rough on the cult being in the losing seat after being ever so certain they were winners. Not all of them are as delusional as ward, some have seen the writing on the wall.

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Very confident yet wrong, we will henceforth refer to the upper left as the "ward quadrant."

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45 minutes ago, UNC12345 said:

I don't think I for one am trying to denounce you for defending your industry (I'm just an investor). I guess that if this is your sole reason for defending Trump, then I can actually understand that.  It's the fact that Trump represents so much more and is a complete and utter narcissist.  Like a car wreck, sadly, it is hard not to sit back and find it interesting to watch and perhaps comment on.

Ah, I see that the irony of our increasingly vituperative discourse has escaped you once again: You're yet another Canadian oil & gas "investor" who sat by, in a sipping and knitting group, whilst a socialist government pilloried your whole industry, but now you're a bonafide expert on lecturing Americans--with that wampum of spunk that you so admire--to bend over for an incoming socialist-leaning government with an avowed intent of banning fracking, thereby running a sword into the gut of every American in shale oil or gas. I'm not merely an investor: it is my livelihood; I've put a lot into it; it puts food on my table. That's what I call skin in the game. So don't deign to lecture me.

You have now--at once--become too arrogant and wrong-headed to even respond to, but still I'm going to try. Certainly you're right on one point: they have made this a place where a person, no matter where he is from or how he feels, can take aim at whatever or whomever. And that has probably breathed new air into us all from time to time. Certainly it gets our dander up.

For the record, despite the suggestion that I might be losing my cognitive skills, yes, I do believe the courts could be so deranged and skewed that they would overlook voter fraud. I am a lifelong Republican and I watched--during my hardworking years--as the Deep State infiltrated our government as our Congress went all to hell. Donald Trump wasn't put into office by cadging the nefarious nuances of the voting machines or using any other chicanery. He put himself in office by sheer will and cunning, by reading the mood of the working class and pointing out that he would work for them, and for the industries they labored in. And then he set about to drain the swamp, which was green with slime and long overdue for a change.

That offended the hell out of bureaucrats who made a very tidy living off the government store. They got angry. Donald Trump also offended paint-by-the-numbers Americans who had grown fond of the president who'd been raised by a Kenyan Muslim and thereby felt he had to bow to Islamic leaders, no matter if they hated America. That was bad enough but when Trump insulted a German chancellor who had made the grievous mistake of allowing her country to become overrun with Islamic extremists, not to mention poking fun at poor Trudeau, who can't seem to fart without asking permission, well gosh, he just flat begged for eviction, didn't he? 

So yes, I plead guilty to thinking the damn election was rigged, and that the courts, Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell and a host of other half-assed Americans simply want Trump out, no matter how that has to be done--after all it's in the interest of the greater good of the country. While we're at it, I also think SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts may well be as compromised as Lin Wood suggests daily. And I believe that if we allow this election to stand without being analyzed with a colonoscope up every ballot box's butt we've allowed ourselves to turn into . . . Canada.

May God forbid.

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33 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said:

government with an avowed intent of banning fracking, thereby running a sword into the gut of every American in shale oil or gas. I'm not merely an investor: it is my livelihood; I've put a lot into it; it puts food on my table. That's what I call skin in the game. So don't deign to lecture me.

 

 we've allowed ourselves to turn into . . . Canada.

 

I own two properties in Alberta and the tsx is pretty closely tied to the energy market.  So yeah, I have plenty of skin in the oil game - my investments and property values do better with high oil prices.

Hurting US oil and gas production would likely benefit me.

Canada is a lovely place - you could do far worse. Vancouver island is heavenly.

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30 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said:

Ah, I see that the irony of our increasingly vituperative discourse has escaped you once again: You're yet another Canadian oil & gas "investor" who sat by, in a sipping and knitting group, whilst a socialist government pilloried your whole industry, but now you're a bonafide expert on lecturing Americans--with that wampum of spunk that you so admire--to bend over for an incoming socialist-leaning government with an avowed intent of banning fracking, thereby running a sword into the gut of every American in shale oil or gas. I'm not merely an investor: it is my livelihood; I've put a lot into it; it puts food on my table. That's what I call skin in the game. So don't deign to lecture me.

You have now--at once--become too arrogant and wrong-headed to even respond to, but still I'm going to try. Certainly you're right on one point: they have made this a place where a person, no matter where he is from or how he feels, can take aim at whatever or whomever. And that has probably breathed new air into us all from time to time. Certainly it gets our dander up.

For the record, despite the suggestion that I might be losing my cognitive skills, yes, I do believe the courts could be so deranged and skewed that they would overlook voter fraud. I am a lifelong Republican and I watched--during my hardworking years--as the Deep State infiltrated our government as our Congress went all to hell. Donald Trump wasn't put into office by cadging the nefarious nuances of the voting machines or using any other chicanery. He put himself in office by sheer will and cunning, by reading the mood of the working class and pointing out that he would work for them, and for the industries they labored in. And then he set about to drain the swamp, which was green with slime and long overdue for a change.

That offended the hell out of bureaucrats who made a very tidy living off the government store. They got angry. Donald Trump also offended paint-by-the-numbers Americans who had grown fond of the president who'd been raised by a Kenyan Muslim and thereby felt he had to bow to Islamic leaders, no matter if they hated America. That was bad enough but when Trump insulted a German chancellor who had made the grievous mistake of allowing her country to become overrun with Islamic extremists, not to mention poking fun at poor Trudeau, who can't seem to fart without asking permission, well gosh, he just flat begged for eviction, didn't he? 

So yes, I plead guilty to thinking the damn election was rigged, and that the courts, Dick Cheney, Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell and a host of other half-assed Americans simply want Trump out, no matter how that has to be done--after all it's in the interest of the greater good of the country. While we're at it, I also think SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts may well be as compromised as Lin Wood suggests daily. And I believe that if we allow this election to stand without being analyzed with a colonoscope up every ballot box's butt we've allowed ourselves to turn into . . . Canada.

May God forbid.

Well said Mr. Maddoux, our election is being questioned at its very core. Rather than being investigated with extreme prejudice is is be being ignored with extreme prejudice.

It would seem the attitude of Officials are above such a thing is now wining,

Public elections are a foundation of this republic, the very core of a nation's freedom..the right to choose and trust we the people have elected a person. 

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4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

I own two properties in Alberta and the tsx is pretty closely tied to the energy market.  So yeah, I have plenty of skin in the oil game - my investments and property values do better with high oil prices.

Hurting US oil and gas production would likely benefit me.

Canada is a lovely place - you could do far worse. Vancouver island is heavenly.

While i do not know you personally, your posting could not be more obvious as to motive. When Trump fully deregulated the epa there was not a chance in hell of Canadian oil ever making any kind of comeback. To my point the US once imported 50% of its oil from Canada, at one point Canada economy was on pace to outrun the US econ. As of 4 yrs ago the dream has died, it is just what it is...And yes misplaced hate could easily be the solution to failure.

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