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1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

You've had one one person and his numerous sock puppet accounts coming here daily being a disruptive influence. You've had ample opportunity to ban this person and his lock step accounts. That you've chosen not to says something. I leave this picture for everyone else

 

You seem to be posting anarchy? Asking for a friend of course.

A note here..that would be you big E...now that is strictly a opinion...Now will ones mileage vary..but of course comes to mind....And yet i cannot understand the motivation of a Canadian citizen getting so deeply involved in US politics..and target one individual..with such tenacity...

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39 minutes ago, Selva said:
1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

 

Dear Ward,

Somehow it's hard to believe that all Democrats in this forum are the same person. I know from the past that you were checking IP addresses of other members in this forum. Please do me a favor a show me that Enthalpic, Jeffrey Brown,  UNC12345, even Jay or maybe Boat too are actually the same person. My apologies to all those Democrats I forgot to mention. I am willing to accept your proof and admit that I was wrong if we really find out that all these persons are in fact Enthalpic.

Selva, I'm with Ward on his comment.  Have no objection for those who like to enjoy posting without constant poking negative statements, but those names above seem to purposely bother so many of us deliberately?   I don't read any of their posts anymore.  Just scroll past but dam...seems they are purposely irritating the hell out of so many here...and they clutter up the posts with so much none sense...

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@LANDMAN X

I agree in one part with you. Poking negative statements are completely unnecessary.  But I don't agree that each and every person I mentioned above are the same person and are all poking other members. And we have this problem just in political threads and we will stop it right now. 

And just before posting this, one of you did it again. Last warning, another provocation and you're out. 

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National Review:  Trump’s Final Insult

By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-tuesday/trumps-final-insult/

Excerpt:

It is no great surprise to find President Donald Trump and cronies complaining about election fraud even as President Donald Trump and his cronies were recorded in a telephone call attempting to suborn election fraud, threatening the Georgia secretary of state — a Republican, note — with criminal prosecution unless he should “find,” discovering by some black art, enough votes to swing the state’s election Trump’s way.

I have on many occasions criticized the abuse of the word coup in our politics, but that is what this is: an attempted coup d’état under color of law. It would be entirely appropriate today to impeach Trump a second time and remove him from office before his term ends.

No one who has participated in this poisonous buffoonery should ever hold office again. There was a time when there was a plausible if sometimes self-serving rationale for working for the Trump administration — that the president is a clueless poseur surrounded by crackpots and frauds, and that he desperately needs good counsel from responsible adults. But the Trump administration is not currently under the guiding influence of any such responsible adults — and there simply is no defending what it is up to. This cannot be excused or explained away.

Trump’s media cheerleaders, who like to call themselves constitutionalists and patriots, are no such thing. They are, for the most part, profiteers who will justify anything if it helps them to hold on to one point of audience share as they peddle their various blends of snake oil. “Woe unto them that call evil good and justify the wicked for gain.”

. . . . The modern Republican Party, whatever it was, is gone, even if much of the staff and the incorporation papers remain.

The next question: What will be built on its ruins?

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29 minutes ago, Selva said:

 

And just before posting this, one of you did it again. Last warning, another provocation and you're out. 

That better be for Ward.

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I am my own man thank you. I am no Dem thank you. However I am anti Trump thank you. I have laid out issues that I am at odds with Dems also. I claim to be an issue type guy so I catch heat from both sides. I know that is beyond the comprehension of some but I have little control over that. 
I apologize when my immaturity at 63 overcomes me and sometimes I react a little harsh. I guess that’s the factory boy in me where I spent 35 years. 
I do remember occasions of being ridiculed for suggesting clean air is good as one example. I have lung damage due to a virus before COVID came along. That’s why things flaring and pollution peak my interest.   If dirty air advocates clean up their personal attacks I have no problem discussing issues in a more professional way. 

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1 hour ago, Enthalpic said:

That better be for Ward.

In defense of Ward Smith, I noted up the thread that, to his credit,  he acknowledged that Donald Trump falsely accused Cruz of election fraud in 2016, presumably just because Trump lost the Iowa caucus. 

Of course, my interpretation of this, to-wit, that if he made false allegations of election fraud in 2016 because he lost, why isn't he doing the same thing now, is my own. 

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11 minutes ago, Enthalpic said:

That better be for Ward.

Hm, not really. 

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2 minutes ago, Boat said:

However I am anti Trump thank you.

Ditto.  I have actually mostly voted Republican in presidential elections, but I would have crawled over broken glass to vote against Trump, and I supported the Lincoln Project in the general election.  

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7 minutes ago, Jeffrey Brown said:

Ditto.  I have actually mostly voted Republican in presidential elections, but I would have crawled over broken glass to vote against Trump, and I supported the Lincoln Project in the general election.  

Odd so did Bradley PNW...quite openly for awhile. Now i am not pointing at you as a individual, yet common threads.. thoughts or expression's rule the day. For example Bradly actually embraced the notion of building HI FI amps in China. Only a very young person would think along such lines, 

He was absolutely entrenched in the concept Flynn was lying, today it is well known Flynn was coerced into his guilty plea. Young Ideologues have much to learn just how nefarious the world truly is...and it is bad.

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Goodbye F*** Loser Crybabies

Hope you are happy with your consolation prize of me leaving! 

Enjoy your boring circle jerk echo-chamber of misinformation!

 

Enthalpic signing off permanently.  @Selva please delete my account.  Enjoy your website.

My job is done here. Trump is gone!

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19 minutes ago, Enthalpic said:

Goodbye F**** Loser Crybabies

Hope you are happy with your consolation prize of me leaving! 

Enjoy your boring circle jerk echo-chamber of misinformation!

 

Enthalpic signing off permanently.  @Selva please delete my account.  Enjoy your website.

My job is done here. Trump is gone!

Selva, you have handled this brilliantly.  Thank you for you mild manner on a hot forum now.  Very middle and I love that.  

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VP Mike Pence said to have told Trump he lacks power to change election result

https://www.capitalgazette.com/news/nation-world/ct-nw-nyt-trump-pence-election-results-20210106-36waujzejrh5rb5jmiwyjugn2q-story.html

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Vice President Mike Pence told President Donald Trump on Tuesday that he did not believe he had the power to block congressional certification of Joe Biden’s victory in the presidential election despite Trump’s baseless insistence that he did, people briefed on the conversation said.

Pence’s message, delivered during his weekly lunch with the president, came hours after Trump further turned up the public pressure on the vice president to do his bidding when Congress convenes Wednesday in a joint session to ratify Biden’s Electoral College win.

“The Vice President has the power to reject fraudulently chosen electors,” Trump wrote on Twitter on Tuesday morning, an inaccurate assertion that mischaracterized Pence’s largely formal and constitutionally prescribed role of presiding over the House and Senate as they receive and certify the electoral votes conveyed by the states and announcing the outcome.

Pence does not have the unilateral power to alter the results sent by the states to Congress.

More Republican senators came out Tuesday against attempts to undermine the results, including Tim Scott of South Carolina and James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said he viewed challenging any state’s certification as “a violation of my oath of office.”

 

So Long, Farewell - 20 January 2021 Version

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7kCqrlwDtU&feature=youtu.be

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2 hours ago, Boat said:

Conspiracy abounds amongst sore losers. A year before Trump won the White House there was the birther conspiracy which was a lie of course. So what else can we expect from his supporters. 

For the record, put as nicely as I can, I have no conspiracy theories whatsoever. I have stated--like a broken record--that compilations of votes in several key states are no volatile and abrupt that they beg reasonable explanation. The American people deserve an unequivocal accounting of those incongruities. I object very strongly to being categorized as a "sore loser." I'm not. I merely think we can't go forward as a country in which a large percentage of Americans are pretty sure the election wasn't fair. Not only that but any duly-elected president needs to do something--and he can't if lots of people think he stole the election. 

Please try to understand: wanting an in-depth analysis of the election should not be confused with accusation. If the thing is analyzed and it turns out that the election was fair and honest, I'll be the first to accept the results. Right now, however, I am opposed to pushing this under the rug and acting like all is okay, because it's not. 

This is similar in scope and depth to the Iran-Contra Affair. It warrants a thorough look. To be denied that look makes the suspicious even more suspicious. And so it goes.

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4 minutes ago, Jeffrey Brown said:

More Republican senators came out Tuesday against attempts to undermine the results, including Tim Scott of South Carolina and James Inhofe of Oklahoma, who said he viewed challenging any state’s certification as “a violation of my oath of office.”

I don't know about Tim Scott but I'm from Oklahoma and James Inhofe is 86 years old and couldn't find his ass with a three-way mirror.

How would you like an 86-year-old surgeon performing your three-vessel coronary bypass? Or your total knee replacement? Yet here he is, making giant national decisions, acting as if he understands the ramifications for our country. 

Sorry, you'll have to do better than that, Jeffrey. 

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24 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said:

Sorry, you'll have to do better than that, Jeffrey

Of course, the headline is the main story, while Trump continues to spout delusional nonsense about Pence being able to personally select Trump as president, but here is a link to the current breakdown in the Senate, among Republicans:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2021/politics/congress-electoral-college-count-tracker/

1883836584_ScreenShot2021-01-05at10_36_59PM.thumb.png.a62d42307e1f8389918ccf6f7de85d0d.pngLincoln Project ad, It's over Donald and Mike Pence knows it:

 

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1 hour ago, Jeffrey Brown said:

Lincoln Project ad, It's over Donald and Mike Pence knows it:

Yes, I think you're right, but that doesn't make it a blue-ribbon-winner. 

Right now, you and I are saddled with a thoroughly demented president-elect with a socialistic vice-president who plagiarized a passage from Martin Luther King. How does that make you feel, Jeffrey? Like dancing in the streets?

For God's sake, man, can't you see that we're in trouble. 

No? Well, let me ask you a question, are you on here because you have an interest in oil and gas or are you on here in order to pay succor to a large ideal? If you're on here because of oil and gas, well, you've just seen the end of American energy-independence. Providing you're an American--which I am beginning to question--how does that make you feel? Do you, in your heart of hearts, feel that green energy can replace fossil fuels within the next few days? Or months? What do you think it's going to feel like to a guy like me to lose his life's work?

Ponder that before you make your next hee-hees. Okay?

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1 hour ago, Gerry Maddoux said:

For the record, put as nicely as I can, I have no conspiracy theories whatsoever. I have stated--like a broken record--that compilations of votes in several key states are no volatile and abrupt that they beg reasonable explanation. The American people deserve an unequivocal accounting of those incongruities. I object very strongly to being categorized as a "sore loser." I'm not. I merely think we can't go forward as a country in which a large percentage of Americans are pretty sure the election wasn't fair. Not only that but any duly-elected president needs to do something--and he can't if lots of people think he stole the election. 

Please try to understand: wanting an in-depth analysis of the election should not be confused with accusation. If the thing is analyzed and it turns out that the election was fair and honest, I'll be the first to accept the results. Right now, however, I am opposed to pushing this under the rug and acting like all is okay, because it's not. 

This is similar in scope and depth to the Iran-Contra Affair. It warrants a thorough look. To be denied that look makes the suspicious even more suspicious. And so it goes.

A good thing to watch will be the defamation lawsuits that are being filed by the voting machine operators. I imagine lawsuits will divulge better information than any government appointed panel. 

https://www.npr.org/2020/12/22/949294173/dominion-voting-systems-employee-sues-trump-campaign-and-allies-for-defamation

https://www.axios.com/dominion-voting-systems-ceo-john-poulos-talks-elections-death-threats-and-lawsuits-251c67a0-85fa-4191-9662-9c9ba4b06fd5.html

 

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My fellow americans. I ve finished my popcorn. It was a nice show watching diaperdon crying and all maga stuff with comics proud babyes etc. it was a good loser show. Thank you for erasing the orange clown from world’s stage. He was a pure redneck in chief, loser in chief and no responsibility in chief. It was a shit show as Donaldito is. An orange piece of shit.

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16 minutes ago, Dmitry Bedin said:

My fellow americans. I ve finished my popcorn. It was a nice show watching diaperdon crying and all maga stuff with comics proud babyes etc. it was a good loser show. Thank you for erasing the orange clown from world’s stage. He was a pure redneck in chief, loser in chief and no responsibility in chief. It was a shit show as Donaldito is. An orange piece of shit.

glta

I could not help but notice the big E dropping out and then your presence within minutes. Odd your last appearance was back in June.

Oil price seems to be a hotbed for a body of posters bent on anarchy...

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7 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

 

Goodbye F*** Loser Crybabies

Hope you are happy with your consolation prize of me leaving! 

Enjoy your boring circle jerk echo-chamber of misinformation!

 

Enthalpic signing off permanently.  @Selva please delete my account.  Enjoy your website.

My job is done here. Trump is gone!

Goodbye to you, and good riddance.

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7 hours ago, Boat said:

I am my own man thank you. I am no Dem thank you. However I am anti Trump thank you. I have laid out issues that I am at odds with Dems also. I claim to be an issue type guy so I catch heat from both sides. I know that is beyond the comprehension of some but I have little control over that. 
I apologize when my immaturity at 63 overcomes me and sometimes I react a little harsh. I guess that’s the factory boy in me where I spent 35 years. 
I do remember occasions of being ridiculed for suggesting clean air is good as one example. I have lung damage due to a virus before COVID came along. That’s why things flaring and pollution peak my interest.   If dirty air advocates clean up their personal attacks I have no problem discussing issues in a more professional way. 

I'd vouch for you, @Boat.  Seen you on "both sides of the aisle" as it were, seemingly fighting for/against issues and not party lines.  I quite respect that and do try to do so myself, although I may fail at times.  I'll keep trying to focus through all the crap in the media and look forever harder for the facts.

Cheers, mate.

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This is troubling, to the Nth degree.  Nancy Pelosi's first act in the newly seated House of Representatives is to pass a rule change DIS-Allowing Minority to commit amendments to any legislation passing through the House of Representatives.  LIsten to Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy describe what is happening, and see him penalized for even having the temerity to bring it up.

 

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