Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 17 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: If you're keeping score they haven't quite figured out how to take away the 3rd Amendment… yet. I'm guessing it's going to involve BLM bivouac in "your domicile. Complain and you're racist Seriously look up who started most of these things. War on drugs (actually a war on blacks). --> used to allow civil asset forfeiture. War on terror (actually war on freedoms). --> used to remove loads of freedoms (privacy, allowed torture or "enhanced interrogation", etc.). 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Perhaps a example of the egregious act would lend some credibility to your musings. Rather than Cosmic Back Round Noise... Your comment is rather Cosmic. You can use Google yourself. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoMack + 547 JM February 9, 2021 9 minutes ago, Symmetry said: You know Bush did much of that right? Republicans manufactured fear to take away your rights - not the Dems. Civil asset forfeiture was promoted by Reagan, another Republican. Republicans might have "manufactured" the fear to take away rights but in 2020-- drum roll -- the Democrats are "doing it" And keep doing it. Jackson Lee has just introduced a bill on gun rights and she'll move the bills through. That's when Texas will rise up! The Democrats don't ban our rights like the authoritarian governments do, they use the media, Big Tech, the courts and illegitimate voting practices. Soon, D.C. will be a state, and Biden has 3 so-called "experts" already sitting in place to start the 15 member commission for the SCOTUS term limits and/or adding liberals the court. When Pelosi pulls out the HR1 bill all hell is going to break loose. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 February 9, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Symmetry said: You can use Google yourself. Intresting commentary or example, however you are consistent. Google is rather Cosmic is it not. At some point you must give credibility to yourself simply by laying down something that has merit... Frankly you sound like a young teenager with no place to go. Edited February 9, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 February 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, notsonice said: Where did you get your law degree? Trump U? Trumps lawyer is babbling and not putting up a fight. Enjoy PS even Trumps lawyer is not fighting with your babble.....it must be overseen by the Chief Justice..... Loser Article 1 section 3 chump. Read it and weep. And try linking next time, maybe when you actually look something up you'll learn something, although that's highly unlikely given your lack of intellect. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Google is rather Cosmic is it not? No it's not, are you high? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,062 DM February 9, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Article 1 section 3 chump. Read it and weep. And try linking next time, maybe when you actually look something up you'll learn something, although that's highly unlikely given your lack of intellect. only for impeachments of a sitting president. Trump is no longer President. Even Trumps lawyers are not arguing your meritless argument. Then again a person with your low IQ might have a problem with what is being presented today. Enjoy the trial Edited February 10, 2021 by notsonice 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 February 9, 2021 16 hours ago, notsonice said: only for impeachments of a sitting president. Trump is no longer President. Even Trumps lawyers are not arguing your meritless argument. Then again a person with your low IQ might have a problem with what is being presented today. Enjoy the trial , Loser Can't keep track of what the other sock puppets said? After all, if he's not the President, why is he getting impeached? Low IQ people can't use the argument that he was still President when impeachment started but he's a nobody now. Either he is or he isn't. The remedy under the constitution is that a president can be removed. So which is it loser? Either they're tacitly admitting he's the rightful President and they're trying other means to get rid of him or… 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 207 JB February 9, 2021 Charles Cooper: He argued that because the Constitution allows the Senate to bar officials convicted of impeachable offenses from holding public office again in the future, “it defies logic to suggest that the Senate is prohibited from trying and convicting former officeholders.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 February 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Can't keep track of what the other sock puppets said? After all, if he's not the President, why is he getting impeached? Low IQ people can't use the argument that he was still President when impeachment started but he's a nobody now. Either he is or he isn't. The remedy under the constitution is that a president can be removed. So which is it loser? Either they're tacitly admitting he's the rightful President and they're trying other means to get rid of him or… As ive stated before Mr. Ward it is that magnetic persona that draws them in like fly's...behold your cult of admirer's....Such is life does come to mind.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 The crying wolf child is having trouble determining what is reality - shocking! So many Democrats - inconceivable! Look at the facts, the Republicans are the ones taking away our rights, other than maybe guns. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 February 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Symmetry said: The crying wolf child is having trouble determining what is reality - shocking! So many Democrats - inconceivable! Look at the facts, the Republicans are the ones taking away our rights, other than maybe guns. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Conspiracies and evidence your side continues to lose. Classic. FYI Released without bail is common and is not a dismissal of charges. Are you going to cry about fairness like a delicate snowflake millennial next? Sounding like a lot like a loser, personally I like winners - You're fired. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 207 JB February 9, 2021 Opening statement by Trump's lawyer baffles viewers: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-defense-lawyer-baffles-viewers-with-confounding-meandering-opening-argument-just-ad-libbing/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Jeffrey Brown said: Opening statement by Trump's lawyer baffles viewers: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-defense-lawyer-baffles-viewers-with-confounding-meandering-opening-argument-just-ad-libbing/ Awesome! Drunk chicks as witnesses, leaking hair dye, landscaping parking lot press conferences, rambling nonsense! Trumps legal team is comedy gold! 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,062 DM February 9, 2021 56 to 44 Looks like Trump lost again. GOP unity? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,062 DM February 9, 2021 16 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Can't keep track of what the other sock puppets said? After all, if he's not the President, why is he getting impeached? People with low IQ can't use the argument that he was still President when impeachment started but he's a nobody now. Either he is or he isn't. The remedy under the constitution is that a president can be removed. So which is it loser? Either they're tacitly admitting he's the rightful President and they're trying other means to get rid of him or… sock puppets? Ward, what are you babbling about now? When you lose do you always babble? PS Are you for real? it seems every time you lose you start ranting bs about sock puppets. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 February 9, 2021 8 minutes ago, notsonice said: 56 to 44 Looks like Trump lost again. GOP unity? Lost what, exactly? Does your dim bulb even understand what the topic today even was? You think they removed him from office, or voted on a procedural issue? Asking for a friend 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: Lost what, exactly? Try to keep up. Trump’s lawyers, and others here, argued that the Constitution does not provide for impeachment of a former president. The Senate voted 56-44 that the trial is constitutional. Just like I said it was, fancy that... Do I need to spell it out more for you? Trumps legal team lost their first line of defence. Edited February 9, 2021 by Symmetry 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 207 JB February 9, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Symmetry said: Trumps legal team lost their first line of defence. GOP Senator Bill Cassidy basically said that Trump's legal team's performance was horrendous. Cassidy voted with the Democrats on the motion. And BTW, this was interesting: Trump impeachment lawyer Bruce Castor Jr. explicitly acknowledged Biden won the presidency. As some observers in the Twitterverse noted, if Trump still had his Twitter account Castor probably would have been Tweet fired this afternoon. Of course, between Trump's flagrant lies, his irrational behavior, and his tendency not to pay his bills, he's probably lucky to have found any lawyers to represent him who can still fog a mirror Edited February 9, 2021 by Jeffrey Brown 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JoMack + 547 JM February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Symmetry said: Trump was impeached during his term. Look it up - facts matter. Plus it's not "can be impeached" he is already impeached. When it comes to things like statute of limitations all that matters is if the proceedings were started during the allowed time-frame. No getting off on a technicality here. CONSTITION: Article II, Section 4: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United "shall" be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and "Conviction" of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. So, exactly what is the point of this circus show since the Senate will "not" convict with 2/3rds of the Senate that is a FACT. When Justice Roberts told Schumer "hell no, I'm not going to remove a President that isn't the "President" since he's now in Florida playing golf! you can parse words all you want, but when all is said and done it's a side show to hide their ineptitude. The only thing I wish would happen is that if they are going to do this, I want them to drag it on for 4 years so Biden can't fk up the country any more than he has over the last 3 freaking weeks. BTW, do you actually live in this country? "Statute of limitations" is not relevant in this matter in any way, shape or form. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,391 February 9, 2021 (edited) I find it of some interest that Mr. Trump's lawyers argue quite well, he was removed from office by the voters. The truth is refreshing. I would like to hear how Donald reacts to that argument. Off topic, I also note that Parler is still "unfunctional". Edited February 9, 2021 by turbguy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Symmetry + 109 KC February 9, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JoMack said: CONSTITION: Article II, Section 4: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United "shall" be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and "Conviction" of Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. So, exactly what is the point of this circus show since the Senate will "not" convict with 2/3rds of the Senate that is a FACT. When Justice Roberts told Schumer "hell no, I'm not going to remove a President that isn't the "President" since he's now in Florida playing golf! you can parse words all you want, but when all is said and done it's a side show to hide their ineptitude. The only thing I wish would happen is that if they are going to do this, I want them to drag it on for 4 years so Biden can't fk up the country any more than he has over the last 3 freaking weeks. BTW, do you actually live in this country? "Statute of limitations" is not relevant in this matter in any way, shape or form. Keep being wrong all you want. Look at the ruling today. Since when does living in the country have anything to do with anything? Eyes wide, Dan, Ward with his mail-order wife... do any live in N.A? I might as well be omnipresent as I am omnipotent. Edited February 9, 2021 by Symmetry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 207 JB February 9, 2021 (edited) The very compelling video that the House Managers presented today:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivVOPWrFfW4 Edited February 9, 2021 by Jeffrey Brown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jeffrey Brown + 207 JB February 9, 2021 (edited) Trump unhappy with his attorney's performance, sources say https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-impeachment-trial-02-09-2021/index.html Trump was almost screaming as Castor made meandering arguments that struggled to get at the heart of his defense team's argument, which is supposed to be over the constitutionality of holding a trial for a president no longer in office. And Twitterverse comments: https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-defense-lawyer-baffles-viewers-with-confounding-meandering-opening-argument-just-ad-libbing/ For example: Andy McCarthy @AndrewCMcCarthy Lawyer for the former POTUS who maintains that the election was stolen argues that there’s no need to disqualify that former POTUS because the American people just voted him out of office. I'm confused ... Edited February 10, 2021 by Jeffrey Brown Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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