NYT: The Supreme Court’s order (Re: Trump’s tax returns) set in motion a series of events that could lead to the startling possibility of a criminal trial of a former U.S. president

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20 minutes ago, Symmetry said:

Martyr now? Haha

You do shitty things, you get punished.  It is called Law.

 

When power and law is exercised unequally against one side it is tyranny. Tyranny requires revolution to overcome it. Those that condone tyranny are useful idiots. 

Edited February 23, 2021 by ronwagn
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23 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

When power and law is exercised unequally against one side it is tyranny. Tyranny requires revolution to overcome it. Those that condone tyranny are useful idiots. 

No tyranny against Trump either.

Do we need a dictionary sticky link for you guys?

Tyranny against the frigging POTUS... rich.

 

Are you a traitor now?  Q cult? Storm?

Edited February 23, 2021 by Symmetry

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3 minutes ago, Symmetry said:

No tyranny against Trump either.

Do we need a dictionary sticky link for you guys?

Tyranny against the frigging POTUS... rich.

 

Are you a traitor now?  Q cult? Storm?

Are you a cement cranium? 

 

One entire side of the aisle gets freedom to do and say whatever they want, for years, without rebuke. All the while, the other side (including law abiding citizens) get every single facet of local and national media, tech, and (in some cases) law and legislative strong arm tactics.....but, yeah, tyranny is only against Trump. 

 

You're a numpty. 

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1 hour ago, Symmetry said:

Say what they want to hear, it gets the precious up-votes.

Only Enthalpic would be so brazen as to suggest that I am a sycophant in my writings on this forum. 

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32 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

 

 

One entire side of the aisle gets freedom to do and say whatever they want, for years, without rebuke. All the while, the other side (including law abiding citizens) get every single facet of local and national media, tech, and (in some cases) law and legislative strong arm tactics.....but, yeah, tyranny is only against Trump. 

 

 

That is not tyranny.

People were mean to Trump, I get that, no need to use words that don't fit the situation.

 

The political opposition did their job.

The media is largely independent of government and can choose to not broadcast garbage on their own free will.  Are you suggesting the media should be state owned / controlled?

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Symmetry

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1 hour ago, ronwagn said:

When power and law is exercised unequally against one side it is tyranny. Tyranny requires revolution to overcome it. Those that condone tyranny are useful idiots. 

It is precisely this fundamental principle, of the abuse of authority against subjects (the colonists) that led to the successful American Revolution - one that was fought for with arms, and paid for with blood, I remind viewers.  Was George III a tyrant, with his Tea Tax? Well, no matter how you slice it and dice it, he sure was tone-deaf.  Kinda reminds me of Nancy Pelosi (although you could credibly argue that all politicians in California are tone-deaf).   

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Government internal battles are NOT tyranny.

Tyranny is the government being harsh on the people. Internal fighting and counter-balance is by design.

 

Edited February 23, 2021 by Symmetry

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Keep playing Trump up as the weakling getting bullied in the schoolyard. It's funny and completely counter to his "brand" as the Boss / bully.  Now he is not the boss and is the victim, boohoo.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said:

It is precisely this fundamental principle, of the abuse of authority against subjects (the colonists) that led to the successful American Revolution - one that was fought for with arms, and paid for with blood, I remind viewers.  Was George III a tyrant, with his Tea Tax? Well, no matter how you slice it and dice it, he sure was tone-deaf. 

All of this is unrelated. This is not the war of independence. It is not the subjects getting abused, the actual topic is Trump going to jail for his likely tax fraud and other crimes. The cult, of course, warps that into imaginary fascism, tyranny; and a living martyr...

 

 

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Symmetry/Enthalpic thinks he's got the brains to pull one over on us. The big Eejit doesn't even have the wit to pull one over on himself. 

Meanwhile, here in the real world, even the morons can recognize it's a tilted playing field as This article clearly proves. But let's face it, if it weren't for double standards the Leftists would have no standards at all. 

Meanwhile the same party that actively financed the bail bonds of rioters with known Criminal records who terrorized the country during the BLM / antifa insurrection lasting months suddenly believes in law and order? Only the most idiotic of the useful idiots here could swallow that tripe, which is why Eejit asked for extra helpings. 

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She crossed the Rubicon at the State of the Union last year, when she dramatically ripped up President Trump’s speech as she stood behind him.

That single act of desecration incited more anger among conservatives than anything Trump had to say.

“When she tore up the state of the union, they started this war,” says a relative of Richard Barnett, an Arkansas 60-year-old jailed over the riot, who placed one foot on what he thought was Pelosi’s desk in an act of reciprocal disrespect.

Pelosi has no problem with violence, either, as long as it furthers her aims: “I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. And maybe there will be,” she said in 2018 when railing against Trump.

SEE ALSO

 

Pelosi’s ‘9/11-style panel’ for Capitol riot is just a bid to sell her pet conspiracy theories

“People will do what they do,” she said at the height of the BLM-Antifa riots last July, when rioters ripped down a statue of Christopher Columbus and threw it in Baltimore’s Harbor.

Of course, when you point out the hypocritical double standards of Pelosi and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris during last years’ riots you are mocked for “whataboutism.”

But it matters. The Dems spent seven months fanning the flames of left-wing discord and violence. Then, when the worm finally turned, and right-wing violence flared one day in Washington, they morphed into law and order hawks scouring the country for unrepentant signs of conservatism.

Almost everyone arrested around the country remains in jail over the riot, even if they committed no violence, have no criminal record, have stable jobs, are retirees or a mother and son duo.

The only person released without bail is a left-wing anti-Trump activist, John Sullivan, who prosecutors say encouraged the violence that day, and was rewarded with $75,000 by CNN and NBC for his video footage.

The aim is to bankrupt and destroy Trump supporters, most of whom can’t afford the legal fees. While top DC law firms raced to defend Guantanamo Bay inmates pro bono, the Capitol rioters are on their own.

 

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14 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Meanwhile, here in the real world, even the morons can recognize it's a tilted playing field as This article clearly proves. But let's face it, if it weren't for double standards the Leftists would have no standards at all. 

Great article.  SPOT on!

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28 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Symmetry/Enthalpic thinks he's got the brains to pull one over on us. The big Eejit doesn't even have the wit to pull one over on himself. 

Meanwhile, here in the real world, even the morons can recognize it's a tilted playing field as This article clearly proves. But let's face it, if it weren't for double standards the Leftists would have no standards at all. 

Meanwhile the same party that actively financed the bail bonds of rioters with known Criminal records who terrorized the country during the BLM / antifa insurrection lasting months suddenly believes in law and order? Only the most idiotic of the useful idiots here could swallow that tripe, which is why Eejit asked for extra helpings. 

 

Not to be lost in this stated war...

Schumer warns Kavanaugh and Gorsuch they will 'pay the price'

 

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8 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Schumer warns Kavanaugh and Gorsuch they will 'pay the price'

They probably will.

Impeachment seems to be the sport of the day down in Washington.  

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Jan van Eck said:

They probably will.

Impeachment seems to be the sport of the day down in Washington.  

 

 

 

Where it all began...I can only speak for myself, those two Democratic leaders were the most powerful members in the the US legislative branch of government...and they declared war.

The Constitution grants Congress the sole authority to enact legislation and declare war, the right to confirm or reject many Presidential appointments, and substantial investigative powers.

And of course the Guy who financed it all...9.5 billion dollars to the Democratic party........

Bloomberg’s Billions: How the Candidate Built an Empire of Influence

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/15/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-spending.html

Bloomberg’s Billions: How the Candidate Built an Empire of Influence - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

all, by his own accounting, Mr. Bloomberg has given away nearly $9.5 billion since 1997, at an annual rate that has increased more than a hundredfold. In 2018, the year before he announced for president, he spent nearly $770 million. Last year’s $3.3 billion figure probably included a $1.8 billion donation to his alma mater, Johns Hopkins University, announced in November 2018. Even without it, his charitable giving roughly doubled.

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open

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2 hours ago, Symmetry said:

That is not tyranny.

People were mean to Trump, I get that, no need to use words that don't fit the situation.

 

The political opposition did their job.

The media is largely independent of government and can choose to not broadcast garbage on their own free will.  Are you suggesting the media should be state owned / controlled?

 

I guess you missed the attacks by media, tech and justice/legislative on "law abiding citizens" part? It isn't just "PeOpLe WeRe MeAn To TrUmP", you numpty. 

 

It's all fun and games when your political slant is the arbiter of information, regardless of how slanted it is. 

 

Tyranny starts that way, and as Naomi Wolf (a lifelong liberal Democrat) says, she's shocked that people aren't paying attention. 

I guess we can put you in the gleeful "useful idiots" category. 

 

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On 2/22/2021 at 9:46 PM, Jeffrey Brown said:

Supreme Court Denies Trump’s Final Bid to Block Release of Tax Returns

The former president’s accountants will give New York prosecutors the financial records he has spent years trying to shield.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/us/politics/supreme-court-trump-taxes-financial-records.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Monday rejected a last-ditch attempt by former President Donald J. Trump to shield his financial records, issuing a brief, unsigned order that ended Mr. Trump’s bitter 18-month battle to stop prosecutors in Manhattan from poring over his tax returns as they investigate possible financial crimes.

The court’s order was a decisive defeat for Mr. Trump, who had gone to extraordinary lengths to keep his tax returns and related documents secret, taking his case to the Supreme Court twice. There were no dissents noted.

From the start, Mr. Trump’s battle to keep his returns under wraps had tested the scope and limits of presidential power. Last summer, the justices rejected Mr. Trump’s argument that state prosecutors cannot investigate a sitting president, ruling that no citizen was above “the common duty to produce evidence.” This time, the court denied Mr. Trump’s emergency request to block a subpoena for his records, effectively ending the case.

The ruling is also a big victory for the Manhattan district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., a Democrat. He will now have access to eight years’ worth of Mr. Trump’s personal and corporate tax returns, as well as other financial records that Mr. Vance’s investigators view as vital to their inquiry into whether the former president and his company manipulated property values to obtain bank loans and tax benefits.

“The work continues,” Mr. Vance said in a statement.

In his own lengthy statement, Mr. Trump lashed out at the Supreme Court’s decision and the investigation. He characterized the inquiry as a politically motivated attack by New York Democrats, calling it “a continuation of the greatest political Witch Hunt in the history of our Country.” He also falsely asserted, again, that he had won the 2020 election.

That means that Obama, all his administration members and Senators and House members can now have their finances investigated without probable cause so that the 4th amendment is suspended for government officials. This precedent means much more for the Dems and establishment that are paid exorbitant bribes than Trump and his team that largely self fund out of their private fortunes. Trump has had 4 years to clean up whatever dirt may have been in his financial and tax records. So I believe he does not care one bit about this. 

But the Dems and establishment Reps should very much worry as they do have much to hide. The mob fell on RICO and income tax charges. Hunter Biden's most easily proven crimes are multiple counts of sex with a minor and income tax fraud is even easier since you don't need to prove location in order to have jurisdiction. . 

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16 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

That means that Obama, all his administration members and Senators and House members can now have their finances investigated without probable cause so that the 4th amendment is suspended for government officials. This precedent means much more for the Dems and establishment that are paid exorbitant bribes than Trump and his team that largely self fund out of their private fortunes. Trump has had 4 years to clean up whatever dirt may have been in his financial and tax records. So I believe he does not care one bit about this. 

But the Dems and establishment Reps should very much worry as they do have much to hide. The mob fell on RICO and income tax charges. Hunter Biden's most easily proven crimes are multiple counts of sex with a minor and income tax fraud is even easier since you don't need to prove location in order to have jurisdiction. . 

That's an interesting tale.

See a different perspective:

https://archive.vn/JEI4o

then the "stories" seemed to get weaponized by (anonymous) on 4chan (they go viral on other forms of "social media", usually called "disinformation", but originally starts as LARP often times. 

https://archive.vn/64cyW

I agree with this guy:

Furthermore, Landers assessed the following in 2008:

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Anonymous is the first internet-based super-consciousness. Anonymous is a group, in the sense that a flock of birds is a group. How do you know they’re a group? Because they’re travelling in the same direction. At any given moment, more birds could join, leave, peel off in another direction entirely.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)#Analysis

In group / out group dynamics are "interesting", but it is probably in our genes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

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7 minutes ago, surrept33 said:

That's an interesting tale.

See a different perspective:

https://archive.vn/JEI4o

then the "stories" seemed to get weaponized by (anonymous) on 4chan (they go viral on other forms of "social media", usually called "disinformation", but originally starts as LARP often times. 

https://archive.vn/64cyW

I agree with this guy:

Furthermore, Landers assessed the following in 2008:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_(group)#Analysis

In group / out group dynamics are "interesting", but it is probably in our genes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gombe_Chimpanzee_War

The usual I've come to expect from the Botass. 

@0R0 will recognize most Of these characters, explicitly not anonymous. But your bot can't view nor grok videos so you're SOL I guess. Bad news for Hunter that the British press has no qualms about publishing his dirty laundry. Joe's golden boy, he recently said that. He also recently stopped "the war on pedophiles" Trump had started. Coincidence? Not bloody likely. 

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3 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

The usual I've come to expect from the Botass. 

@0R0 will recognize most Of these characters, explicitly not anonymous. But your bot can't view nor grok videos so you're SOL I guess. Bad news for Hunter that the British press has no qualms about publishing his dirty laundry. Joe's golden boy, he recently said that. He also recently stopped "the war on pedophiles" Trump had started. Coincidence? Not bloody likely. 

That's interesting. Optical flow and automated closed captioning/subtitling is a (common) thing (so anyone could do this, barring content protection). WebRTC was one of the more interesting technological changes in 2020. 

At the moment, Widevine is probably the only content protection of note, at least in the non-Russia/non-China internet, but most "videos" (a display compositor is fundamentally a stream of frames) are not protected. 

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On 2/24/2021 at 7:31 AM, QuarterCenturyVet said:

I guess you missed the attacks by media, tech and justice/legislative on "law abiding citizens" part? It isn't just "PeOpLe WeRe MeAn To TrUmP", you numpty. 

 

It's all fun and games when your political slant is the arbiter of information, regardless of how slanted it is. 

 

Tyranny starts that way, and as Naomi Wolf (a lifelong liberal Democrat) says, she's shocked that people aren't paying attention. 

I guess we can put you in the gleeful "useful idiots" category. 

 

If you didn't watch it before, or didn't watch it to the end, do so now.  It is required viewing and there will be a pop quiz....    

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I can't find the Joe Biden's Presidency thread, so I'll put this here:

Rand Paul Confronts Biden's Transgender Health Nominee About "Genital Mutilation"

 

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1 hour ago, Dan Warnick said:

I can't find the Joe Biden's Presidency thread, so I'll put this here:

Rand Paul Confronts Biden's Transgender Health Nominee About "Genital Mutilation"

 

The optics are beginning to become disgusting