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13 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said:

Maybe you should read your own posts. 

more demand at some of its fuel stations in Britain as worries about lorry driver shortages prompted drivers to fill up their tanks.

Jay, I did not write that statement, it was in a quote from another publication. If you don't like it, say so, but do not attribute it to me, I merely quoted it. The basic point is the lack of energy supplies in Britain, caused by panic-driven Green philosophy. Live with it.

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13 hours ago, Eric Gagen said:

Everything failed. I live here.   Nuclear plants failed.  Natural gas failed.  Wind failed. The data doesn’t back up any assertion that the massive failure this February was cause by renewable resources.  In any case my statement about the massive level of wind and solar power in west Texas isn’t an opinion - it’s a fact.  And we will see how it goes. 

The natural gas failure was caused by the renewable failure. we went over that here a few hundred times. The natural gas system depended on renewables to function, when the renewables failed, they dragged down the NG with them. Bottom line: overdependence on renewables leads to disaster.

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2 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

The natural gas failure was caused by the renewable failure. we went over that here a few hundred times. The natural gas system depended on renewables to function, when the renewables failed, they dragged down the NG with them. Bottom line: overdependence on renewables leads to disaster.

It also makes prices for all energy forms skyrocket. Solar and wind sources are fine, if people want them, meanwhile life must go on without overdependence on them. They must be cost efficient and not destroy economies in the meantime. Worldwide, it will take a century to get close to a low carbon world. 

Keep in mind that the real goal of the far left is to destroy economies and countries so they can rebuild them in their own mold. It is a slippery slope that leads to disaster for everyone. Just examine the budget for the trillions of new spending that the Democrats are presently trying to push through. If you think that is a good idea you need to rethink. 

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14 hours ago, ronwagn said:

That is like saying we have to capture all the solar rays that strike the earth or all the wind or all the tides. We get what we need for human use. The rest is wasted. We should avoid wasting energy where it makes sense like leaky pipes and flaring. I have always made a big issue about that. I hear Texas is finally moving on it. 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/texas-finally-taking-fight-against-200000951.html

https://blogs.edf.org/energyexchange/2021/09/15/as-texas-fails-to-stop-flaring-epa-must-act/

You do realize there are over 3 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE of solar energy striking the earth every day over Human current usage for everything, no?

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On 9/26/2021 at 12:09 PM, Eric Gagen said:

The rest of Europe is about to be in a heating crisis, (and some places electricity) but that’s because the Russians have them in a hammerlock over natural gas supplies.  

The reason that they are in that hamerlock is because they chose not to develop their own natural gas supplies or enter into long term contracts for LNG and build the needed facilities to distribute it throughout Europe. They chose to trade with a totalitarian trader that they were warned against. Europe has gone far left and felt comfortable with the Russian Bear. 

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On 9/25/2021 at 6:51 AM, Boat said:

Don’t worry, the battery we have been talking about for years is on its way. To kill much of Coal and Nat Gas it might still be at least a decade for tech and scale to develop. But every year the transition will grow and we’ll have plenty to report. Even China will come around when those watts get to cheap to ignore.

In the meantime Zero energy plants should be shut down until every new supplier is fully stress tested and the powerlines are bulletproof (literally and figuratively.) That includes computer systems and other sabotage protection. Right now, we do not even have the common sense to mandate power generation backup for service stations. No electricity, no gasline or diesel. IMHO every EV should be designed to work also as a backup energy source for emergency home use. It seems like a good benefit to sell also. 

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3 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Jay, I did not write that statement, it was in a quote from another publication. If you don't like it, say so, but do not attribute it to me, I merely quoted it. The basic point is the lack of energy supplies in Britain, caused by panic-driven Green philosophy. Live with it.

Again with your 2nd grade reading comprehension. The information you quoted directly negates your claim of lack of energy supplies due to Green philosophy. The gasoline shortage is due to Brexit causing a lack of truck drivers. Live with it.

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42 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

In the meantime Zero energy plants should be shut down until every new supplier is fully stress tested and the powerlines are bulletproof (literally and figuratively.) That includes computer systems and other sabotage protection. Right now, we do not even have the common sense to mandate power generation backup for service stations. No electricity, no gasline or diesel. IMHO every EV should be designed to work also as a backup energy source for emergency home use. It seems like a good benefit to sell also. 

I just love your hypocrisy of promoting the free market out one side of your mouth and then claiming the need for massive government regulation and socialism out the other side. 

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23 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

I just love your hypocrisy of promoting the free market out one side of your mouth and then claiming the need for massive government regulation and socialism out the other side. 

It makes sense to be prepared for the worst case scenarios. Sorry you are not seeing that obvious fact but it is to be expected. Your focus is very limited to the " green dream." 

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22 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said:

I just love your hypocrisy of promoting the free market out one side of your mouth and then claiming the need for massive government regulation and socialism out the other side. 

You bet. Ensuring prolific generation of essential electricity is SoCiAlIsM. Surely you can't be this dumb. Yep. You are a renewables investor that thinks the 20× subsidy dollar/dollar in the US is the FrEe MaRkEt. 

Fuckin muppet. 

You need a good punch in the fuckin face. 

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1 minute ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

You bet. Ensuring prolific generation of essential electricity is SoCiAlIsM. Surely you can't be this dumb. Yep. You are a renewables investor that thinks the 20× subsidy dollar/dollar in the US is the FrEe MaRkEt. 

Fuckin muppet. 

You need a good punch in the fuckin face. 

And you need an education.

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1 hour ago, turbguy said:

You do realize there are over 3 ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE of solar energy striking the earth every day over Human current usage for everything, no?

No, but I imagined it was hundreds to thousands of times more. Do you have a reference? The same is probably true of the amount of magma heat, and methane that is released from the earth. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geothermal_gradient

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15 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

No, but I imagined it was hundreds to thousands of times more. Do you have a reference? The same is probably true of the amount of magma heat, and methane that is released from the earth. 

 

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The increases in global methane in the last 20 years are related to Cows and Oil and Gas/coal mining production not releases from the Earth. Manmade caused methane releases are 50 percent greater than natural methane releases from wetlands. Essentially if the release of methane from oil and gas production were eliminated or we could figure out how to reduce the cow methane releases the Global methane budget will balance and then we would see a decrease in Atmospheric Methane

 

The pandemic has tugged carbon emissions down, temporarily. But levels of the powerful heat-trapping gas methane continue to climb, dragging the world further away from a path that skirts the worst effects of global warming.

BY Josie Garthwaite

Stanford Earth Matters

Climate Change,

Energy,

Food and Agriculture

 

Global emissions of methane have reached the highest levels on record. Increases are being driven primarily by growth of emissions from coal mining, oil and natural gas production, cattle and sheep ranching, and landfills.

Between 2000 and 2017, levels of the potent greenhouse gas barreled up toward pathways that climate models suggest will lead to 3-4 degrees Celsius of warming before the end of this century. This is a dangerous temperature threshold at which scientists warn that natural disasters, including wildfires, droughts and floods, and social disruptions such as famines and mass migrations become almost commonplace. The findings are outlined in two papers published July 14 in Earth System Science Data and Environmental Research Letters by researchers with the Global Carbon Project, an initiative led by Stanford University scientist Rob Jackson.

In 2017, the last year when complete global methane data are available, Earth’s atmosphere absorbed nearly 600 million tons of the colorless, odorless gas that is 28 times more powerful than carbon dioxide at trapping heat over a 100-year span. More than half of all methane emissions now come from human activities. Annual methane emissions are up 9 percent, or 50 million tons per year, from the early 2000s, when methane concentrations in the atmosphere were relatively stable.

In terms of warming potential, adding this much extra methane to the atmosphere since 2000 is akin to putting 350 million more cars on the world’s roads or doubling the total emissions of Germany or France. “We still haven’t turned the corner on methane,” said Jackson, a professor of Earth system science in Stanford’s School of Earth, Energy & Environmental Sciences (Stanford Earth).

Growing sources of methane

Globally, fossil fuel sources and cows are twin engines powering methane’s upward climb. “Emissions from cattle and other ruminants are almost as large as those from the fossil fuel industry for methane,” Jackson said. “People joke about burping cows without realizing how big the source really is.”

Throughout the study period, agriculture accounted for roughly two-thirds of all methane emissions related to human activities; fossil fuels contributed most of the remaining third. However, those two sources have contributed in roughly equal measure to the increases seen since the early 2000s.

Methane emissions from agriculture rose to 227 million tons of methane in 2017, up nearly 11 percent from the 2000–2006 average. Methane from fossil fuel production and use reached 108 million tons in 2017, up nearly 15 percent from the earlier period.

Amid the coronavirus pandemic, carbon emissions plummeted as manufacturing and transportation ground to a halt. “There’s no chance that methane emissions dropped as much as carbon dioxide emissions because of the virus,” Jackson said. “We’re still heating our homes and buildings, and agriculture keeps growing.”

Emissions around the globe

A visualization of the emission and transport of atmospheric methane around the globe between December 9, 2017 and December 1, 2018 shows pulses of methane from livestock, oil and gas operations, rice fields, wildfires, wetlands and other sources. (Image credit: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio)

Methane emissions rose most sharply in Africa and the Middle East; China; and South Asia and Oceania, which includes Australia and many Pacific islands. Each of these three regions increased emissions by an estimated 10 to 15 million tons per year during the study period. The United States followed close behind, increasing methane emissions by 4.5 million tons, mostly due to more natural gas drilling, distribution and consumption.

“Natural gas use is rising quickly here in the U.S. and globally,” Jackson said. “It’s offsetting coal in the electricity sector and reducing carbon dioxide emissions, but increasing methane emissions in that sector.” The U.S. and Canada are also producing more natural gas. “As a result, we’re emitting more methane from oil and gas wells and leaky pipelines,” said Jackson, who is also a senior fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and Precourt Institute for Energy.

Europe stands out as the only region where methane emissions have decreased over the last two decades, in part by tamping down emissions from chemical manufacturing and growing food more efficiently. “Policies and better management have reduced emissions from landfills, manure and other sources here in Europe. People are also eating less beef and more poultry and fish,” said Marielle Saunois of the Université de Versailles Saint-Quentin in France, lead author of the paper in Earth System Science Data.

 

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50 minutes ago, QuarterCenturyVet said:

You bet. Ensuring prolific generation of essential electricity is SoCiAlIsM. Surely you can't be this dumb. Yep. You are a renewables investor that thinks the 20× subsidy dollar/dollar in the US is the FrEe MaRkEt. 

Fuckin muppet. 

You need a good punch in the fuckin face. 

Dear Vet, thank you for your service! Please moderate yourself though. A lot of our best people have left due to frustration with site moderation. We would hate to lose you!

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No loss of the tards who state "You need a good punch in the fuckin face. "  The poster graduated from high school in 1999, 25 year vet?

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14 minutes ago, notsonice said:

 

The increases in global methane in the last 20 years are related to Cows and Oil and Gas/coal mining production not releases from the Earth. Manmade caused methane releases are 50 percent greater than natural methane releases from wetlands. Essentially if the release of methane from oil and gas production were eliminated or we could figure out how to reduce the cow methane releases the Global methane budget will balance and then we would see a decrease in Atmospheric Methane

 

The pandemic has tugged carbon emissions down, temporarily. But levels of the powerful heat-trapping gas methane continue to climb, dragging the world further away from a path that skirts the worst effects of global warming.

BY Josie Garthwaite

Stanford Earth Matters

Climate Change,

Energy,

Food and Agriculture

 

Global emissions of methane have reached the highest levels on record. Increases are being driven primarily by growth of emissions from coal mining, oil and natural gas production, cattle and sheep ranching, and landfills.

Between 2000 and 2017, levels of the potent greenhouse gas barreled up toward pathways that climate models suggest will lead to 3-4 degrees Celsius of warming before the end of this century. This is a dangerous temperature threshold at which scientists warn that natural disasters, including wildfires, droughts and floods, and social disruptions such as famines and mass migrations become almost commonplace. The findings are outlined in two papers published July 14 in Earth System Science Data and Environmental Research Letters by researchers with the Global Carbon Project, an initiative led by Stanford University scientist Rob Jackson.

In 2017, the last year when complete global methane data are available, Earth’s atmosphere absorbed nearly 600 million tons of the colorless, odorless gas that is 28 times more powerful than carbon dioxide at trapping heat over a 100-year span. More than half of all methane emissions now come from human activities. Annual methane emissions are up 9 percent, or 50 million tons per year, from the early 2000s, when methane concentrations in the atmosphere were relatively stable.

In terms of warming potential, adding this much extra methane to the atmosphere since 2000 is akin to putting 350 million more cars on the world’s roads or doubling the total emissions of Germany or France. “We still haven’t turned the corner on methane,” said Jackson, a professor of Earth system science in Stanford’s School of Earth, Energy & Environmental Sciences (Stanford Earth).

Growing sources of methane

Globally, fossil fuel sources and cows are twin engines powering methane’s upward climb. “Emissions from cattle and other ruminants are almost as large as those from the fossil fuel industry for methane,” Jackson said. “People joke about burping cows without realizing how big the source really is.”

Throughout the study period, agriculture accounted for roughly two-thirds of all methane emissions related to human activities; fossil fuels contributed most of the remaining third. However, those two sources have contributed in roughly equal measure to the increases seen since the early 2000s.

Methane emissions from agriculture rose to 227 million tons of methane in 2017, up nearly 11 percent from the 2000–2006 average. Methane from fossil fuel production and use reached 108 million tons in 2017, up nearly 15 percent from the earlier period.

Amid the coronavirus pandemic, carbon emissions plummeted as manufacturing and transportation ground to a halt. “There’s no chance that methane emissions dropped as much as carbon dioxide emissions because of the virus,” Jackson said. “We’re still heating our homes and buildings, and agriculture keeps growing.”

Emissions around the globe

A visualization of the emission and transport of atmospheric methane around the globe between December 9, 2017 and December 1, 2018 shows pulses of methane from livestock, oil and gas operations, rice fields, wildfires, wetlands and other sources. (Image credit: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio)

Methane emissions rose most sharply in Africa and the Middle East; China; and South Asia and Oceania, which includes Australia and many Pacific islands. Each of these three regions increased emissions by an estimated 10 to 15 million tons per year during the study period. The United States followed close behind, increasing methane emissions by 4.5 million tons, mostly due to more natural gas drilling, distribution and consumption.

“Natural gas use is rising quickly here in the U.S. and globally,” Jackson said. “It’s offsetting coal in the electricity sector and reducing carbon dioxide emissions, but increasing methane emissions in that sector.” The U.S. and Canada are also producing more natural gas. “As a result, we’re emitting more methane from oil and gas wells and leaky pipelines,” said Jackson, who is also a senior fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and Precourt Institute for Energy.

Europe stands out as the only region where methane emissions have decreased over the last two decades, in part by tamping down emissions from chemical manufacturing and growing food more efficiently. “Policies and better management have reduced emissions from landfills, manure and other sources here in Europe. People are also eating less beef and more poultry and fish,” said Marielle Saunois of the Université de Versailles Saint-Quentin in France, lead author of the paper in Earth System Science Data.

 

I need realistic science. What you are claiming is biased IMHO and does not include the realities of what methane and heat comes from the earth itself. It is not helpful to ignore the realities and focus on manmade pollution alone, whether it be heat or chemicals. America has reduced methane emissions more than Europe by REPLACING COAL and using NATURAL GAS. Europe is currently increasing use of coal because their green dream is failing and fuel prices are harming their economy and the budgets. This is also coming to California and any other state that follow their anti natural gas policies. 

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4 minutes ago, notsonice said:

No loss of the tards who state "You need a good punch in the fuckin face. "  The poster graduated from high school in 1999, 25 year vet?

Your chosen name kind of describes some of your posts though. Just sayin. 

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1 minute ago, ronwagn said:

I need realistic science. What you are claiming is biased IMHO and does not include the realities of what methane and heat comes from the earth itself. It is not helpful to ignore the realities and focus on manmade pollution alone, whether it be heat or chemicals. America has reduced methane emissions more than Europe by REPLACING COAL and using NATURAL GAS. Europe is currently increasing use of coal because their green dream is failing and fuel prices are harming their economy and the budgets. This is also coming to California and any other state that follow their anti natural gas policies. 

you asked for numbers and you got them and then you do not want to believe them as they do not fit your Gas will save the world BS. The chart shows the methane from the earth itself and it is less than what cows put out. Coal Mining is one giant source of methane emissions during mining. Ever hear of a gassy mine? unbelievable amount of methane that is exhausted while mining.

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4 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Your chosen name kind of describes some of your posts though. Just sayin. 

You do not like facts obviously so one has to put it to you bluntly. Just sayin .

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On 9/26/2021 at 3:22 PM, footeab@yahoo.com said:

How dumb can city slickers be?  All that "wasted" food gets fed to pigs, chickens, dogs, cows, or get this, feeds the SOIL which grows MORE food... No SOIL, = VERY expensive food as you have to literally MINE the minerals with Energy of some form or another and then transport these minerals, spread them, etc instead of letting the fungi/bacteria get you the minerals which already exist in the soil/rock.  These fungi/bacteria require FOOD from get this... PHOTOSYNTHESIS of plants which drop said organic matter onto the ground and grown via their roots and decomposes.  

95% of Corn feeds cows and ethanol plants.

50%-->75% of other grains feeds pigs, chickens, pets, fish. 

Veggies not picked feed the soil

The "1/3" can only be attributed to fat people crapping the food out their arses instead of digesting it.

Obesity is the largest overall cause of early death in America IMHO. It contributes heavily to death by diabetes, cardiac problems, lung insufficiency, cancer, skeletal compression, etc. We use food as as if we worked like our ancestors did but few of us do. I am more guilty than most but have already lived almost the new average lifespan of an American male. I am 76 and the average male lifespan is only 76. It has gone down since COVID which kills many over age 65 and also to drug abuse which kills a lot of young people. Most of us can look back to our youth and remember that their were few fat kids and relatively few fat adults compared to now. We would live longer by cutting our eating by about 25 percent. Eating the right mix of foods would add even more years.

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10 minutes ago, notsonice said:

You do not like facts obviously so one has to put it to you bluntly. Just sayin .

 

12 minutes ago, notsonice said:

you asked for numbers and you got them and then you do not want to believe them as they do not fit your Gas will save the world BS. The chart shows the methane from the earth itself and it is less than what cows put out. Coal Mining is one giant source of methane emissions during mining. Ever hear of a gassy mine? unbelievable amount of methane that is exhausted while mining.

I am as anti coal as anyone and maybe did not make that clear. I have commented on it many times however. That is why I insist on criticizing China as the one who is benefiting from cheap power while others defend them and say they are OK with it. India is in the same group but China is lying and misdirecting continuously. Natural gas is far better than coal and IMHO is the answer for right now, until wind and solar can grow up and meet the cost benefit ratio without huge subsidies. 

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The energy crisis which is now afflicting the planet has already had an impact on oil prices, as the desperate strangulation of world economies has forced a rush to oil as an alternative energy source.

All of this was perfectly predictable by anyone with even a modest forecasting skill, but somehow the Green agitators managed to miscalculate the after-effects of energy panic.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Goldman-Sachs-Hikes-Oil-Price-Forecast-To-90.html

"On the supply side, the shut-in production in the U.S. Gulf of Mexico amid Hurricane Ida has offset the rise in OPEC+ supply since July, while supply growth from producers outside the pact has been below expectations, according to Goldman Sachs. On the other hand, the global gas shortage ahead of the winter will boost demand for oil-fired electricity generation, the investment bank said. Goldman Sachs’ Jeff Currie Brent said last week that oil could reach $90 per barrel if the weather in the northern hemisphere turns out to be colder than normal this winter."

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49 minutes ago, notsonice said:

 

The increases in global methane in the last 20 years are related to Cows and Oil and Gas/coal mining production not releases from the Earth. Manmade caused methane releases are 50 percent greater than natural methane releases from wetlands. Essentially if the release of methane from oil and gas production were eliminated or we could figure out how to reduce the cow methane releases the Global methane budget will balance and then we would see a decrease in Atmospheric Methane

 

The pandemic has tugged carbon emissions down, temporarily. But levels of the powerful heat-trapping gas methane continue to climb, dragging the world further away from a path that skirts the worst effects of global warming.

BY Josie Garthwaite

Stanford Earth Matters

Climate Change,

Energy,

Food and Agriculture

 

Global emissions of methane have reached the highest levels on record. Increases are being driven primarily by growth of emissions from coal mining, oil and natural gas production, cattle and sheep ranching, and landfills.

Between 2000 and 2017, levels of the potent greenhouse gas barreled up toward pathways that climate models suggest will lead to 3-4 degrees Celsius of warming before the end of this century. This is a dangerous temperature threshold at which scientists warn that natural disasters, including wildfires, droughts and floods, and social disruptions such as famines and mass migrations become almost commonplace. The findings are outlined in two papers published July 14 in Earth System Science Data and Environmental Research Letters by researchers with the Global Carbon Project, an initiative led by Stanford University scientist Rob Jackson.

In 2017, the last year when complete global methane data are available, Earth’s atmosphere absorbed nearly 600 million tons of the colorless, odorless gas that is 28 times more powerful than carbon dioxide at trapping heat over a 100-year span. More than half of all methane emissions now come from human activities. Annual methane emissions are up 9 percent, or 50 million tons per year, from the early 2000s, when methane concentrations in the atmosphere were relatively stable.

In terms of warming potential, adding this much extra methane to the atmosphere since 2000 is akin to putting 350 million more cars on the world’s roads or doubling the total emissions of Germany or France. “We still haven’t turned the corner on methane,” said Jackson, a professor of Earth system science in Stanford’s School of Earth, Energy & Environmental Sciences (Stanford Earth).

Growing sources of methane

Globally, fossil fuel sources and cows are twin engines powering methane’s upward climb. “Emissions from cattle and other ruminants are almost as large as those from the fossil fuel industry for methane,” Jackson said. “People joke about burping cows without realizing how big the source really is.”

Throughout the study period, agriculture accounted for roughly two-thirds of all methane emissions related to human activities; fossil fuels contributed most of the remaining third. However, those two sources have contributed in roughly equal measure to the increases seen since the early 2000s.

Methane emissions from agriculture rose to 227 million tons of methane in 2017, up nearly 11 percent from the 2000–2006 average. Methane from fossil fuel production and use reached 108 million tons in 2017, up nearly 15 percent from the earlier period.

Amid the coronavirus pandemic, carbon emissions plummeted as manufacturing and transportation ground to a halt. “There’s no chance that methane emissions dropped as much as carbon dioxide emissions because of the virus,” Jackson said. “We’re still heating our homes and buildings, and agriculture keeps growing.”

Emissions around the globe

A visualization of the emission and transport of atmospheric methane around the globe between December 9, 2017 and December 1, 2018 shows pulses of methane from livestock, oil and gas operations, rice fields, wildfires, wetlands and other sources. (Image credit: NASA's Scientific Visualization Studio)

Methane emissions rose most sharply in Africa and the Middle East; China; and South Asia and Oceania, which includes Australia and many Pacific islands. Each of these three regions increased emissions by an estimated 10 to 15 million tons per year during the study period. The United States followed close behind, increasing methane emissions by 4.5 million tons, mostly due to more natural gas drilling, distribution and consumption.

“Natural gas use is rising quickly here in the U.S. and globally,” Jackson said. “It’s offsetting coal in the electricity sector and reducing carbon dioxide emissions, but increasing methane emissions in that sector.” The U.S. and Canada are also producing more natural gas. “As a result, we’re emitting more methane from oil and gas wells and leaky pipelines,” said Jackson, who is also a senior fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and Precourt Institute for Energy.

Europe stands out as the only region where methane emissions have decreased over the last two decades, in part by tamping down emissions from chemical manufacturing and growing food more efficiently. “Policies and better management have reduced emissions from landfills, manure and other sources here in Europe. People are also eating less beef and more poultry and fish,” said Marielle Saunois of the Université de Versailles Saint-Quentin in France, lead author of the paper in Earth System Science Data.

 

I have loudly condemned flaring and any waste methane not being used or any leaking methane. That can be easily corrected by government mandates. Coal is the problem, natural gas will have to be way down the line. Realism is vital to maintaining economies. China and India are the real problem.

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

I just love your hypocrisy of promoting the free market out one side of your mouth and then claiming the need for massive government regulation and socialism out the other side. 

Jay, look in the mirror, your Green people are always demanding radical government interference.

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1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said:

And you need an education.

I still don't have a good read on your education, Jay....it remains a puzzle.