notsonice + 1,062 DM December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Now is the desperation point, EVs on the point of failure. EVs on the point of failure.???? BS babble ....no one is standing with you on EVs are going to fail..NO ONE Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,374 DL December 16, 2021 1 hour ago, notsonice said: EVs on the point of failure.???? BS babble ....no one is standing with you on EVs are going to fail..NO ONE If the price rises enough, they will not penetrate the market. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,374 DL December 16, 2021 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: What that EV did to that ICE car is a perfect analogy for the sales numbers. https://assets.bbhub.io/professional/sites/24/BNEF-Zero-Emission-Vehicles-Factbook_FINAL.pdf That is just the same old same old, Jay....miniscule stock numbers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,374 DL December 16, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: The Success Of The Mustang Mach-E Is Forcing Ford To Adjust Its Production Plans Nothing succeeds like success. A few years ago, Ford took a flyer on the Mustang Mach-E. I know an engineer who works for the Blue Oval team who told me in 2019 that car was more or less an afterthought, a “Let’s run it up the flagpole to see if anyone salutes” idea. Initially, Ford thought it might be able to sell 30,000 of them a year. But a funny thing happened on the way to the marketplace. Not only did plenty of people salute, they brought lots of others along with them to salute the EV flag as well. Pretty soon, Ford had a hit on its hands, one it wasn’t quite prepared for. Now it seems the Mustang Mach-E that was going to be built in compliance car numbers has more customers waiting for it than the company ever thought possible. First it raised its production goal to around 70,000 a year, and now it says it is tripling that goal to 200,000 cars a year in 2023. That, in turn, is forcing the company to rethink its plans for other electric cars it has in the pipeline. https://cleantechnica.com/2021/12/15/the-success-of-the-mustang-mach-e-is-forcing-ford-to-adjust-its-production-plans/ Again you are stuck on production cars...these are not racing cars, the ICE internal combustion engine fossil fuel vehicles dominate and OWN racing cars. Jay, you are trotting out pathetic comparisons. That tells us what is going on, simple propaganda. Edited December 16, 2021 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,391 December 16, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, ronwagn said: Of the operating U.S. coal-fired power plants, 28% plan to retire by 2035 That is a long time for them to still be in competition. We have a big new one in Springfield, Illinois, the Capital. RCW Dallman?? Unit #4?? I don't consider 200MW "big". It's subcritical, too. And, it is "middle aged". Yeah, you can pour in more money once they get 40-50 years old to keep them operational. https://www.wandtv.com/news/cwlp-portion-of-springfield-power-plant-to-be-suspended/article_a681a44e-27a7-11ec-923d-b39de6844d77.html That said, here's a way out... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wyoming-coal-plant-chosen-for-gates-backed-advanced-nuclear-reactor-project/ar-AAQMIJX Edited December 16, 2021 by turbguy 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 9 hours ago, notsonice said: EVs on the point of failure.???? BS babble ....no one is standing with you on EVs are going to fail..NO ONE GM's $2 billion Chevy Bolt fire recall casts shadow over electric vehicle market Industry officials worry about the potential impact any fires could have when the industry is investing billions in the shift to battery power. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/gm-s-2-billion-chevy-bolt-fire-recall-casts-shadow-n1277460 Chevy Bolt EV Pro 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 VW TO ASSUME CONTROL OF TELSA'S PLANT IN GERMANY... FAKE NEWS? Stay tuned..! 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, notsonice said: EVs on the point of failure.???? BS babble ....no one is standing with you on EVs are going to fail..NO ONE Germany’s Maxed-Out Grid Is Causing Trouble Across Europe Northern Germany can’t use all the renewable energy it’s making. Neither can its neighbors. https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/germanys-stressed-grid-is-causing-trouble-across-europe 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 What a modern energy crisis looks like and why no country is safe Megawattageddon. Gasapocalypse. Energastrophe. Call it what you will, the energy market news coming out of the U.K. paints a dystopian image of what happens when an economy, making the righteous transition to affordable, clean, renewable power, has to turn to pricey gas to keep moving forward. As the effects of the energy transition ripples across every corner of society, Britain’s experience is a cautionary tale for the rest of the world, an example of what can—and very likely will—go wrong as countries around the globe stumble on their transition to green energy. https://fortune.com/2021/09/25/what-a-modern-energy-crisis-looks-like-and-why-no-country-is-safe/ 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 The Wind Turbine Failures Behind Europe's Energy Crisis Are a Warning for America The situation across the Atlantic may provide a warning for the U.S., with President Joe Biden having set a goal to decarbonize the nation's power grid by 2035 and the whole U.S. economy by 2050. https://www.newsweek.com/wind-turbine-failures-europe-energy-crisis-warning-america-fossil-fuels-1643011 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 December 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, turbguy said: Dallman?? Unit #4?? I don't consider 200MW "big". It's subcritical, too. And, it is "middle aged". Yeah, you can pour in more money once they get 40-50 years old to keep them operational. https://www.wandtv.com/news/cwlp-portion-of-springfield-power-plant-to-be-suspended/article_a681a44e-27a7-11ec-923d-b39de6844d77.html That said, here's a way out... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/wyoming-coal-plant-chosen-for-gates-backed-advanced-nuclear-reactor-project/ar-AAQMIJX We need energy, and I am now more in the "all of the above group" than ever. We do not need to put all our eggs in one basket. As we move towards electric vehicles we will need a lot more electricity than ever before. That energy must be at a competitive price to coal consumed in Asia. Dallman is not scheduled to close until 2035. https://www.wbez.org/stories/pritzker-says-energy-deal-can-happen-but-coal-plant-must-close-by-2035/a248960e-6934-402e-9568-f2f7931bd05a Edited December 16, 2021 by ronwagn reference Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 December 16, 2021 10 hours ago, Ecocharger said: That is just the same old same old, Jay....miniscule stock numbers. Exponential growth, doubling every two years which is Moore's Law. Do you know what exponential growth is? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 (edited) 41 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Exponential growth, doubling every two years which is Moore's Law. Do you know what exponential growth is? Do you grasp the concept? Along with the speed bumps. Lithium Prices Soar, Turbocharged By Electric-Vehicle Demand and Scant Supply An index of lithium prices from research firm and price provider Benchmark Mineral Intelligence doubled between May and November and is up some 240% for the year. The index is at its highest level in data going back five years. https://www.wsj.com/articles/lithium-prices-soar-turbocharged-by-electric-vehicle-demand-and-scant-supply-11639334956 Elon Musk says 2021 has been a year of 'super crazy supply-chain shortages' for Tesla We've had some of the most difficult supply-chain challenges that we've ever experienced in the life of Tesla," he said during an earnings call in April. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-crazy-supply-chain-shortages-roadster-release-date-2021-9 Edited December 16, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 December 16, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Do you grasp the concept? Along with the speed bumps. Lithium Prices Soar, Turbocharged By Electric-Vehicle Demand and Scant Supply An index of lithium prices from research firm and price provider Benchmark Mineral Intelligence doubled between May and November and is up some 240% for the year. The index is at its highest level in data going back five years. https://www.wsj.com/articles/lithium-prices-soar-turbocharged-by-electric-vehicle-demand-and-scant-supply-11639334956 Elon Musk says 2021 has been a year of 'super crazy supply-chain shortages' for Tesla We've had some of the most difficult supply-chain challenges that we've ever experienced in the life of Tesla," he said during an earnings call in April. https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-tesla-crazy-supply-chain-shortages-roadster-release-date-2021-9 High prices bring more lithium production and more efforts at efficiency. If we had more battery materials EV sales would be even higher than doubling every two years. Tesla has almost doubled in just one year while facing those supply chain challenges. Edited December 16, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 December 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: VW TO ASSUME CONTROL OF TELSA'S PLANT IN GERMANY... FAKE NEWS? Stay tuned..! Wacko News Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 16 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: Wacko News It has happened already. The spin will make its debut shortly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 December 16, 2021 17 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: It has happened already. The spin will make its debut shortly. The rumor is that Tesla will buy Daimler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,537 December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Jay McKinsey said: The rumor is that Tesla will buy Daimler. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,489 December 16, 2021 1 minute ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Oh Good Grief!!! Try opening your eyes and reading. VW plans on modeling their new plant on Tesla's manufacturing system in order to try and stay competitive. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,391 December 17, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Germany’s Maxed-Out Grid Is Causing Trouble Across Europe Northern Germany can’t use all the renewable energy it’s making. Neither can its neighbors. https://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/germanys-stressed-grid-is-causing-trouble-across-europe And that's a "bad thing" (excess generation), because?? Edited December 17, 2021 by turbguy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,391 December 17, 2021 8 hours ago, ronwagn said: We need energy, and I am now more in the "all of the above group" than ever. We do not need to put all our eggs in one basket. As we move towards electric vehicles we will need a lot more electricity than ever before. That energy must be at a competitive price to coal consumed in Asia. Dallman is not scheduled to close until 2035. https://www.wbez.org/stories/pritzker-says-energy-deal-can-happen-but-coal-plant-must-close-by-2035/a248960e-6934-402e-9568-f2f7931bd05a Dallman Unit 4 will only be about 26 years "old" by then... That said, think of all the older units across the nation, almost all of them older. Capital and O&M expenditures skyrocket after about 40 years. I agree coal's gonna be around for a while. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,374 DL December 17, 2021 (edited) A new problem, upsetting. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-16/tesla-fatal-crash-in-paris/100704400 "Paris taxi company G7 suspended the use of the 37 Model 3 cars in its fleet after the accident on Saturday evening, which involved one of its drivers." Edited December 17, 2021 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,374 DL December 17, 2021 8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Exponential growth, doubling every two years which is Moore's Law. Do you know what exponential growth is? Yes, it creates supply shortages very quickly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 December 17, 2021 28 minutes ago, turbguy said: And that's a "bad thing" (excess generation), because?? The only bad thing is the poor planning that led to such a revolting predicament. How difficult will that be to correct. The largest cities are in the middle of Germany, that is a relatively short distance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_regions_in_Germany Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turbguy + 1,391 December 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, ronwagn said: The only bad thing is the poor planning that led to such a revolting predicament. How difficult will that be to correct. The largest cities are in the middle of Germany, that is a relatively short distance. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_regions_in_Germany Easy to correct. You promptly correct it by decreasing un-needed generation, increasing the load, or both. If there's more transmission required to export, you upgrade transmission. That takes time & money. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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