GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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On 7/28/2022 at 8:44 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

The West had any resolve? Resolve to do what? Do tell. This must be ancient history. For as long as I can remember, the West has been trying to score a Darwin award already. The whole reason you ever had a middle class was the Commies. With their alternative proposition of empowering the people working for salary gone, you don't need that anymore. Go work some more to enrich your real masters. Whatever the Chinese are doing isn't even socialism. Did you know that they only give you a government pension if you worked for the government all your life? Otherwise, your eldest (the only, the non-existent) son is supposed to care for you in the old age, feudal-style. This is why it is also obvious that stories of Chinese not breeding like rabbits anymore have been strongly overstated. Some Chinese merely have no official document and don't officially exist. They are all Cheng, for all I know. Incidentally, is a Chinese  man named Cheng or Wong also destined for the life of crime in US. Identity theft, to be specific. There are more official Chengs (Chungs, Changs) than they are people in Indonesia, a rather populous country last I checked. You don't have enough space in your SSN to make a unique key for every one. Don't even get me started on Mr. Kim and Mr. Ng.

It sure didn't help Russia. Their lifespan , for males, dead before they see sixty. The poor in America live a better life unless they are drug addicts, criminals, or mentally ill. 

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4 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

It sure didn't help Russia. Their lifespan , for males, dead before they see sixty. The poor in America live a better life unless they are drug addicts, criminals, or mentally ill. 

Errr, no. You really need to understand how mean differs from an average to continue with this line of inquiry. Let's start with the average patient temperature at your next-closest hospital, shall we?

Edited July 30, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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12 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Errr, no. You really need to understand how mean differs from an average to continue with this line of inquiry. Let's start with the average patient temperature at your next-closest hospital, shall we?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Russia   OK, 65 , still about the worst of any advanced nation. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+lifespan&rlz=1CAVARX_enUS996US996&oq=american+lifespan&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l4j0i22i30l5.9507j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Edited July 30, 2022 by Ron Wagner

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5 hours ago, Ron Wagner said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_in_Russia   OK, 65 , still about the worst of any advanced nation. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=american+lifespan&rlz=1CAVARX_enUS996US996&oq=american+lifespan&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i512l4j0i22i30l5.9507j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

This is not what I meant. The lower average is mostly a reflection on Russian males living dangerously and dying young compared to you. For example, while hunting the giraffes with their mates, or attacking another populous country nearby? A Russian dude who actually made 65, will most likely live to see his 75th birthday also.

Compare this to medieval stats. Back when, the "average life expectation" was somewhere in the 40-ties.  However, did most of the historical characters we know about lived into the old age, not that different from today. How come? People had a lot of children back when, half of whom died even before they became adults. There are tribes in Polynesia to this day, whose expected average is in the 30-ties, the same as it was for the cavemen. They run a significant health risk of being eaten by their neighbors.

I think the actual situation for an old dude living in Russia is about the same as it is for an American, as in, equally subpar. If you look at the primary cause of death, you see cardiac arrest for both countries. This is classified as a preventable cause by modern medicine.  All the really advanced countries should have a stroke there instead. There is nothing much medicine can do for stroke patients. They may give them a bit of additional lifetime, but only as a vegetable. The defining factor is how fast the ER team will get to you, and it is what it is for pretty much everybody who is no Prince Phil. Even the major oligarchs tend to not have an ER team following them at all times.

Edited July 30, 2022 by Andrei Moutchkine

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20 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

Oil and gasoline demand in America is so robust and fundamental to daily living that there has been no demand destruction related to increased oil prices.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/US-Refiners-Havent-Seen-Fuel-Demand-Destruction.html

"U.S. refiners: there's no indication of fuel demand destruction.

The latest reporting week in EIA data showed that gasoline demand increased from 8.52 million barrels per day (bpd) to 9.25 million bpd last week.

The weekly inventory reports from the EIA at the beginning of July pointed to faltering demand after nationwide gasoline prices hit an average of $5 a gallon in the middle of June."

denial of reality is a sickness....you BS babbling shows you are in denial

Oil and gasoline demand in America is so robust and fundamental to daily living that there has been no demand destruction related to increased oil prices.?????

 

do you need help reading the chart below????

 

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On 7/28/2022 at 9:44 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

The West had any resolve? Resolve to do what? Do tell. This must be ancient history.

Did you know that they only give you a government pension if you worked for the government all your life? Otherwise, your eldest (the only, the non-existent) son is supposed to care for you in the old age, feudal-style. This is why it is also obvious that stories of Chinese not breeding like rabbits anymore have been strongly overstated.

there is an old book called <our changing world>...... According to this book, historical resolution of the west was balance of power among a few countries. It lasted a century or more, before a country decided to make itself counted by show-casing new weapons designed and manufactured......... and started World war I and II .......

Then, alliances were formed against the not allied. Subsequently, an international body  (bodies?) to prevent war in the future was established.

The world has changed from balanced of power among a few to no one is in power, said the book...... 

Present time might be a period when they do not have a clear resolution

 

2. breed like rabbits.

In an era of muti-lacking, what could be the favourite past time of rural folks, right?

In addition, rural folks needed hands in the field, preferably male.

Feudal system of the old granted land according to the number of people registered in a family....... The larger the size of a family, the larger the land a family could work on...... own...... etc.........

The coincidence might be accidental, not intentional...... and probably not in the narrated sequence.

The final outcome was formation of a village of families of the same surname .................... repeated over and over again..... throughout the country

 

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On 7/29/2022 at 7:59 PM, notsonice said:

what are you smoking??? you never post anything to support your BS....

The scientists have shown us that CO2 and earth temperature are negatively correlated,????

yet you post nothing to support your BS. 

If you are not high on crack , you have to be a paid troll , the only question is who are you working for??????

there might be discussion that you have missed......

 

 

 

 

example of solid is metal; liquid = water; gas = carbon dioxide

The rough clarification was......... the amount of energy that can be absorbed by an object or matter relies on atomic or molecular arrangement within it.

Gas has dispersed arrangement. Atoms or molecules are far from each other. Little energy is required to disperse them further. Therefore, gas does not have the capacity to hold/absorb much heat.......

In other words, gas does not contribute to temperature increment as a producer, container or releaser........

No direct correlation might still hold...... strongly....

 

The explanation to charts showing increase level of CO2 and temperature increment could be:

a) reduction in things that absorb it e.g trees

b) increase in production of heat and CO2, not necessarily from burning fossil fuel alone. It could be from over development of concrete buildings, infrastructure etc......

 

 

 

Edited July 30, 2022 by specinho

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7 hours ago, notsonice said:

denial of reality is a sickness....you BS babbling shows you are in denial

Oil and gasoline demand in America is so robust and fundamental to daily living that there has been no demand destruction related to increased oil prices.?????

 

do you need help reading the chart below????

 

Thanks for supporting my point, yes, demand for gasoline is up in spite the rapid price increases, there has been no demand destruction related to the price increase.

You still don't get the point?

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1 hour ago, Ecocharger said:

Thanks for supporting my point, yes, demand for gasoline is up in spite the rapid price increases, there has been no demand destruction related to the price increase.

You still don't get the point?

But gasoline and diesel compared to pre Covid? Me thinks you just make shyt up. Me thinks your not American educated and not capable of being woke. To be woke one must be able to read and comprehend charts and data. Why do non chart readers become US enemies? Listening to daddy Putin instead of using actual numbers? Republicans struggle with numbers. Instead of education they choose a Coup. Alas the world of the dumb. I think the answer may be vetting criteria for leaders. We need to stop these no passing fools. 

[Ecocharger + 1,374]

4 minutes ago, Boat said:

But gasoline and diesel compared to pre Covid? Me thinks you just make shyt up. Me thinks your not American educated and not capable of being woke. To be woke one must be able to read and comprehend charts and data. Why do non chart readers become US enemies? Listening to daddy Putin instead of using actual numbers? Republicans struggle with numbers. Instead of education they choose a Coup. Alas the world of the dumb. I think the answer may be vetting criteria for leaders. We need to stop these no passing fools. 

You clearly do not understand the issue of demand destruction, related to demand for oil and gasoline declining due to price increases and the recession. 

In fact, there is robust and growing demand for oil and gas in spite of the price increases and in spite of the recession showing that people want to buy gasoline and drive their fossil fuel vehicles as a standard factor in their lives.

You ever get an education from somewhere? Me thinks not.

[Ecocharger + 1,374]

9 hours ago, notsonice said:

denial of reality is a sickness....you BS babbling shows you are in denial

Oil and gasoline demand in America is so robust and fundamental to daily living that there has been no demand destruction related to increased oil prices.?????

 

do you need help reading the chart below????

 

Your source is clearly wrong, you have not given us a chart on gasoline demand but rather on gasoline supplied.

The demand for gasoline figure for July 1922 is about 9.25, while here you show only gasoline supplied is about 8.75.

That means for July 2022 gasoline demand is exceeding gasoline supply by about .5 million barrels per day. That is robust demand and pushes prices up for gasoline.

Thank you again for making my point for me.

Edited July 31, 2022 by Ecocharger

[Boat + 1,315]

47 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

You clearly do not understand the issue of demand destruction, related to demand for oil and gasoline declining due to price increases and the recession. 

In fact, there is robust and growing demand for oil and gas in spite of the price increases and in spite of the recession showing that people want to buy gasoline and drive their fossil fuel vehicles as a standard factor in their lives.

You ever get an education from somewhere? Me thinks not.

The demand for fossil fuels dropped by a large amount due to Covid. That demand has been slowly returning but supply chains that were disrupted have yet to get back to normal. I would not call that robust demand. High prices are more because of Covid disruption and a war and less to do with setting consumption records. Throw in shipping and handling war related price hikes. But yea, gasoline and diesel are in demand but not like you say. Get back to pre Covid supply and let’s look at prices. 

[Boat + 1,315]

58 minutes ago, Ecocharger said:

Your source is clearly wrong, you have not given us a chart on gasoline demand but rather on gasoline supplied.

The demand for gasoline figure for July 1922 is about 9.25, while here you show only gasoline supplied is about 8.75.

That means for July 2022 gasoline demand is exceeding gasoline supply by about .5 million barrels per day. That is robust demand and pushes prices up for gasoline.

Thank you again for making my point for me.

Once again, full of shyt. The US exports close to 750,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 1,250,000 barrels of diesel above and beyond consumption. PS add 3+ million in crude and millions in other petroleum products. You gonna call that a lack of supply also? PS where is that Mongolian coal chart. 

Edited July 31, 2022 by Boat

[Ron Wagner + 642]

11 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said:

This is not what I meant. The lower average is mostly a reflection on Russian males living dangerously and dying young compared to you. For example, while hunting the giraffes with their mates, or attacking another populous country nearby? A Russian dude who actually made 65, will most likely live to see his 75th birthday also.

Compare this to medieval stats. Back when, the "average life expectation" was somewhere in the 40-ties.  However, did most of the historical characters we know about lived into the old age, not that different from today. How come? People had a lot of children back when, half of whom died even before they became adults. There are tribes in Polynesia to this day, whose expected average is in the 30-ties, the same as it was for the cavemen. They run a significant health risk of being eaten by their neighbors.

I think the actual situation for an old dude living in Russia is about the same as it is for an American, as in, equally subpar. If you look at the primary cause of death, you see cardiac arrest for both countries. This is classified as a preventable cause by modern medicine.  All the really advanced countries should have a stroke there instead. There is nothing much medicine can do for stroke patients. They may give them a bit of additional lifetime, but only as a vegetable. The defining factor is how fast the ER team will get to you, and it is what it is for pretty much everybody who is no Prince Phil. Even the major oligarchs tend to not have an ER team following them at all times.

A very good analysis. I am a retired RN MA who worked psych. I have had one artificial heart valve replaced, not as an emergency but to extend my old age. I have been on a statin and blood thinner for many years. At 77 I feel great aside from a little arthritis and lower back pain. Many people don't know or care to keep up on what they could do to avoid dying early. 

Unfortunately my mother died of a stroke at age 61. It was aneurysm.  She didn't like the way her blood pressure medication "made her feel". So she died early. Often Americans, and others, make trade offs like overeating, alcoholism, drugs, bad behavior, not taking care of their health, nutrition and exercise etc. 

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2 hours ago, Boat said:

The demand for fossil fuels dropped by a large amount due to Covid. That demand has been slowly returning but supply chains that were disrupted have yet to get back to normal. I would not call that robust demand. High prices are more because of Covid disruption and a war and less to do with setting consumption records. Throw in shipping and handling war related price hikes. But yea, gasoline and diesel are in demand but not like you say. Get back to pre Covid supply and let’s look at prices. 

Again you miss the point, which is whether or not high oil prices and the recession of the last couple of months has hurt demand for oil and gasoline.

That is what we mean by "demand destruction" related to high oil prices and the recession.

The numbers clearly establish that oil demand in recent months has not been hurt by the high oil prices or by the recession.

Case closed.

[Ecocharger + 1,374]

2 hours ago, Boat said:

Once again, full of shyt. The US exports close to 750,000 barrels per day of gasoline and 1,250,000 barrels of diesel above and beyond consumption. PS add 3+ million in crude and millions in other petroleum products. You gonna call that a lack of supply also? PS where is that Mongolian coal chart. 

You again find yourself numerically illiterate.

Demand for gasoline in the U.S. exceeds supply of U.S. gasoline, thus adding to upward price pressure.

Your observation on exports would only add further to the upward pressure on gasoline prices.

You truly are clueless, old man.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Energy-Aspects-Crude-Oil-Demand-Not-Declining-In-Recession-Pattern.html

"“This is a structurally bullish market, and unless demand actually declines outright, there just isn’t enough supply,” Sen said.  

Moreover, the market right now “is completely missing” the fact that the massive SPR releases will stop in October, she noted.  "

Edited July 31, 2022 by Ecocharger

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the death of oil one EV at a time

 

AP NEWS

 

Senate deal should make it easier to buy electric vehicles

By TOM KRISHERJuly 28, 2022

 

DETROIT (AP) — The surprise deal by Senate Democrats on a slimmed-down bill to support families, boost infrastructure and fight climate change also is likely to jump-start sales of electric vehicles.

The measure agreed to by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and holdout Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia would give EV buyers a $7,500 tax credit starting next year, through the end of 2032. There’s also a new $4,000 credit for those buying used EVs, a move to help the middle class go electric.

But as things often go in Washington, there are a bunch of strings and asterisks.

To be eligible, the electric vehicle has to be assembled in North America, and there are limits on annual income for buyers. There also are caps on the sticker prices of new EVs — $80,000 for pickups, SUVs and vans, and $55,000 for other vehicles — and a $25,000 limit on the price of used electric vehicles.

Still, even with the restrictions, the credits should help stimulate electric vehicle sales, which already are rising as automakers introduce more models in different sizes and price ranges, said Jessica Caldwell, an analyst for Edmunds.com.

“The tax credits for electric vehicles in the bill will benefit consumers and cut costs for low- and middle-income families,” the Sierra Club said of the measure, which still must be approved by both chambers. “We’re hoping for swift adoption.”

 

For the first half of this year, electric vehicles accounted for about 5% of U.S. new vehicle sales, with 46 models on sale. S&P Global Mobility expects that to hit 8% next year, 15% by 2025, and 37% by 2030.

At present, many new EVs, including two of sales leader Tesla’s four models, wouldn’t be eligible for the credits because they’re priced higher than the bill’s limits, Caldwell said. But the number of eligible vehicles will grow as automakers roll out more mainstream EVs during the next few years, she said.

“I would imagine that these price brackets will become a lot more realistic in the coming years when you probably have more vehicles that fall within these parameters,” Caldwell said.

Several automakers, including Ford and Hyundai, already have them in the $40,000s, and General Motors next year plans to start selling a small Chevrolet SUV for about $30,000 with about 300 miles of range per charge.

Also, there aren’t many used EVs priced under $25,000 yet, and those that are mainly are older, with lower ranges per charge, Caldwell said, noting that a 5-year-old Chevrolet Bolt small electric car — one of the lowest-priced EVs on the road — is likely to cost more than $25,000.

“It seems like that is something that should potentially be revisited for it to make more sense given today’s market,” she said.

To get the credit, buyers of new EVs can’t have modified adjusted gross incomes of more than $300,000 per year if filing joint tax returns, $225,000 for a head of household, and $150,000 for all taxpayers not in the first two categories.

For used EVs, income limits are $150,000 if filing a joint return, $112,500 for a head of household, and $75,000 for others not in the first two categories.

The bill also removes caps on the number of tax credits each manufacturer can offer. General Motors, Tesla and Toyota all have exceeded the cap and can’t offer any credits now under a previous measure. But other manufacturers still offer them.

Also, more than half the value of battery components have to be manufactured or assembled in North America to get the full credit. And at least 40% of the minerals used in batteries must come from either the U.S. or a country with which it has a free trade agreement. Those percentages increase gradually over the years, and minerals recycled from used batteries in North America also qualify.

Credits would also go to buyers of hydrogen fuel cell and plug-in hybrid vehicles. Plug-ins can travel on electric power alone for several miles before the gas-electric hybrid powertrain kicks in.

The EV tax credits are much smaller than several Democratic legislators from automaking states had proposed earlier. Gone are extra credits for EVs made in the U.S. by union workers.

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,537]

2 hours ago, notsonice said:

the death of oil one EV at a time

 

AP NEWS

 

Senate deal should make it easier to buy electric vehicles

By TOM KRISHERJuly 28, 2022

 

DETROIT (AP) — The surprise deal by Senate Democrats on a slimmed-down bill to support families, boost infrastructure and fight climate change also is likely to jump-start sales of electric vehicles.

The measure agreed to by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and holdout Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia would give EV buyers a $7,500 tax credit starting next year, through the end of 2032. There’s also a new $4,000 credit for those buying used EVs, a move to help the middle class go electric.

But as things often go in Washington, there are a bunch of strings and asterisks.

To be eligible, the electric vehicle has to be assembled in North America, and there are limits on annual income for buyers. There also are caps on the sticker prices of new EVs — $80,000 for pickups, SUVs and vans, and $55,000 for other vehicles — and a $25,000 limit on the price of used electric vehicles.

Still, even with the restrictions, the credits should help stimulate electric vehicle sales, which already are rising as automakers introduce more models in different sizes and price ranges, said Jessica Caldwell, an analyst for Edmunds.com.

“The tax credits for electric vehicles in the bill will benefit consumers and cut costs for low- and middle-income families,” the Sierra Club said of the measure, which still must be approved by both chambers. “We’re hoping for swift adoption.”

 

For the first half of this year, electric vehicles accounted for about 5% of U.S. new vehicle sales, with 46 models on sale. S&P Global Mobility expects that to hit 8% next year, 15% by 2025, and 37% by 2030.

At present, many new EVs, including two of sales leader Tesla’s four models, wouldn’t be eligible for the credits because they’re priced higher than the bill’s limits, Caldwell said. But the number of eligible vehicles will grow as automakers roll out more mainstream EVs during the next few years, she said.

“I would imagine that these price brackets will become a lot more realistic in the coming years when you probably have more vehicles that fall within these parameters,” Caldwell said.

Several automakers, including Ford and Hyundai, already have them in the $40,000s, and General Motors next year plans to start selling a small Chevrolet SUV for about $30,000 with about 300 miles of range per charge.

Also, there aren’t many used EVs priced under $25,000 yet, and those that are mainly are older, with lower ranges per charge, Caldwell said, noting that a 5-year-old Chevrolet Bolt small electric car — one of the lowest-priced EVs on the road — is likely to cost more than $25,000.

“It seems like that is something that should potentially be revisited for it to make more sense given today’s market,” she said.

To get the credit, buyers of new EVs can’t have modified adjusted gross incomes of more than $300,000 per year if filing joint tax returns, $225,000 for a head of household, and $150,000 for all taxpayers not in the first two categories.

For used EVs, income limits are $150,000 if filing a joint return, $112,500 for a head of household, and $75,000 for others not in the first two categories.

The bill also removes caps on the number of tax credits each manufacturer can offer. General Motors, Tesla and Toyota all have exceeded the cap and can’t offer any credits now under a previous measure. But other manufacturers still offer them.

Also, more than half the value of battery components have to be manufactured or assembled in North America to get the full credit. And at least 40% of the minerals used in batteries must come from either the U.S. or a country with which it has a free trade agreement. Those percentages increase gradually over the years, and minerals recycled from used batteries in North America also qualify.

Credits would also go to buyers of hydrogen fuel cell and plug-in hybrid vehicles. Plug-ins can travel on electric power alone for several miles before the gas-electric hybrid powertrain kicks in.

The EV tax credits are much smaller than several Democratic legislators from automaking states had proposed earlier. Gone are extra credits for EVs made in the U.S. by union workers.

Let the chit storm begin. I have no predictive outcome, but this will be a spectacular event. 

[TailingsPond + 460]

15 hours ago, Ecocharger said:

 

In fact, there is robust and growing demand for oil and gas in spite of the price increases and in spite of the recession showing that people want to buy gasoline and drive their fossil fuel vehicles as a standard factor in their lives.

You ever get an education from somewhere? Me thinks not.

Wants may have little to do with it. A huge portion of gas consumption is just commuting to work.  Traffic jam joy.

Do you think people want to pay taxes? After all it is a standard factor in their lives.

Your "logic" is flawed, consumption or occurrence does not equate with desire.

Cancer, household debt, and obesity are on the rise! 

Edited July 31, 2022 by TailingsPond

[TailingsPond + 460]

17 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Let the chit storm begin. I have no predictive outcome, but this will be a spectacular event. 

Whatever you predict the reverse occurs.

Watching trump go to jail will be fun.  Still think he will be "speaker of the house?"

Eat crow.

Edited July 31, 2022 by TailingsPond

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,537]

1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

Whatever you predict the reverse occurs.

Coming to a Theatre New You...."UNCHNAINED"...A IMAX EXPERIENCE IS ASSURED!

 

 

[TailingsPond + 460]

18 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Coming to a Theatre New You...."UNCHNAINED"...A IMAX EXPERIENCE IS ASSURED!

 

 

Even trump wants no part of your fantasy.

"No, it’s not something I want to do. I want to look at what’s happening, and then we’re going to be doing something else. No, it’s not something I would be interested in."

Damn straight he will be doing something else... in the big house perhaps.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/600292-trump-says-hes-uninterested-in-being-speaker-if-gop-retakes-house/

 

 

Edited July 31, 2022 by TailingsPond

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,537]

1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

Damn straight he will be doing something else... in the big house perhaps.

Hunter Biden and the Press: Who’s the Real Degenerate?

U.S. intelligence meddling in the 2020 election is likely to have a longer tail than we realize.

July 1, 2022 4:57 pm ET

A Journal front-page story recently wondered, along with many U.S. allies, why the U.S. alone refrained from imposing sanctions on Alina Kabaeva, the former Olympic gymnast and Putin paramour, about whom Mr. Putin is known to be especially sensitive.

Maybe this is why. Because Mr. Biden owes Mr. Putin one and continues to owe him for Mr. Putin’s professional courtesy in not making global headlines by pointing out that the U.S. intelligence community knowingly published false allegations about Russia to protect Mr. Biden from personal embarrassment and help him get elected.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-and-the-press-whos-the-real-degenerate-media-election-biden-laptop-trump-2020-headlines-11656703119?mod=trending_now_opn_3

 

 

Justice coming for the ‘Dirty 51’ Hunter Biden laptop liars

One of the most galling aspects of the Hunter Biden laptop saga is that the 51 former intelligence officials who played such a critical role in suppressing The Post’s stories and giving Joe Biden cover before the 2020 election have never been brought to account.

The “Dirty 51” lied by painting our stories as Russian disinformation in an Oct. 19, 2020, letter they signed and delivered to Politico five days after The Post exposé and three days before the final presidential debate of the election campaign.

They used the institutional weight of their powerful former roles to legitimize partisan political propaganda designed to smear The Post and everyone associated with the story and dissuade the rest of the media from looking deeper into the laptop.

The letter, titled “Public Statement on the Hunter Biden emails,” and signed by former CIA Directors John Brennan, Leon Panetta and Mike Hayden, former acting CIA Director Michael Morell, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and other ex-spooks, claimed the material on Hunter’s hard drive “has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation,” although not one of them had seen it.

https://nypost.com/2022/05/18/justice-coming-for-dirty-51-hunter-biden-laptop-liars/

Now Do tell Who's going to Gallow's? Enjoy your win..

 

[TailingsPond + 460]

^^ Comedy gold

"Yet they have never apologized or retracted their lie"

Meanwhile plenty of people are spilling beans about the trump election theft lies.

Keep eating crow..have you noticed much of the cult has grown distaste for it for dinner everyday?  0R0 and Ward were funny with their delusions; they must feel real ashamed now in hiding.  Thankfully they will never go hungry with all the crow on hand.

[notsonice + 1,063]

On 7/30/2022 at 12:34 PM, specinho said:

there might be discussion that you have missed......

 

 

 

 

example of solid is metal; liquid = water; gas = carbon dioxide

The rough clarification was......... the amount of energy that can be absorbed by an object or matter relies on atomic or molecular arrangement within it.

Gas has dispersed arrangement. Atoms or molecules are far from each other. Little energy is required to disperse them further. Therefore, gas does not have the capacity to hold/absorb much heat.......

In other words, gas does not contribute to temperature increment as a producer, container or releaser........

No direct correlation might still hold...... strongly....

 

The explanation to charts showing increase level of CO2 and temperature increment could be:

 

a) reduction in things that absorb it e.g trees

b) increase in production of heat and CO2, not necessarily from burning fossil fuel alone. It could be from over development of concrete buildings, infrastructure etc......

 

 

 

????? what are you babbling about???? I can tell you never had any schooling in thermodynamics or reaction chemistry or anything in science on any level. Posting a bunch of random garbage is all you are capable of. 

Stay in school junior you will pass the 6th grade one of these years....

 

Earth's lower atmosphere is expanding due to climate change

By Ben Turner published November 12, 2021

Planes may have to fly higher to avoid turbulence.

•  

 

The lowest part of Earth's atmosphere has been rising by 164 feet (50 meters) per decade since 1980. (Image credit: Roman Becker/EyeEm via Getty Images.)

 

 

 

Earth's atmosphere is rising because of climate change, a new study shows.

 

 

Weather balloon measurements, taken in the Northern Hemisphere over the past 40 years, reveal that the lowest layer of Earth's atmosphere — called the troposphere — has been expanding upward at a rate of roughly 164 feet (50 meters) per decade, and climate change is the cause, according to findings published Nov.r 5 in the journal Science Advances(opens in new tab). 

 

 

"This is an unambiguous sign of changing atmospheric structure," study co-author Bill Randel, a scientist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colorado, said in a statement(opens in new tab). "These results provide independent confirmation, in addition to all the other evidence of climate change, that greenhouse gases are altering our atmosphere."

The troposphere is the layer of the atmosphere we live and breathe in. It extends from sea level to a height ranging from 4.3 miles (7 kilometers) above the poles to 12.4 miles (20 km) over the tropics. As the layer of atmosphere that contains the most heat and moisture, it's also where a lot of atmospheric weather occurs.

 

Air in the atmosphere expands when it's hot and contracts when it's cold, so the troposphere's upper boundary, called the tropopause, naturally shrinks and expands with the changing of the seasons. 

 

But by analyzing atmospheric data such as pressure, temperature and humidity — taken between 20 and 80 degrees north latitude — and pairing it with GPS data, researchers showed that as increasing quantities of greenhouse gases trap more heat in the atmosphere, the tropopause is rising higher than ever before. 

What's more, the rate of the rise seems to be increasing. According to the study, while the tropopause rose roughly 164 feet (50 m) per decade between 1980 and 2000, that increase rose to 174 feet (53.3 m) per decade between 2001 and 2020. Taking into account natural events in their region of study, such as two volcanic eruptions in the 1980s and the periodic Pacific warming El Niño in the late 1990s, the researchers estimated that human activity nonetheless accounted for 80% of the total increase in atmospheric height.

Climate change isn't the only human-made driver of the rising tropopause. The stratosphere — the layer above the troposphere — is also shrinking, thanks to the past release of ozone-depleting gases. These gases shrank the stratosphere through the destruction of the stratospheric ozone layer, although restrictions against their emission in more recent years have caused the atmospheric concentrations of these gases to decline.

 

Scientists are still not sure how a rising tropopause will influence the climate or weather, although it could force planes to fly higher in the atmosphere to avoid turbulence.

 

"The study captures two important ways that humans are changing the atmosphere," Randel said. "The height of the tropopause is being increasingly affected by emissions of greenhouse gases even as society has successfully stabilized conditions in the stratosphere by restricting ozone-destroying chemicals."

 

Originally published on Live Science.

 

Ben Turner 

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Edited July 31, 2022 by notsonice