GREEN NEW DEAL = BLIZZARD OF LIES

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53 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Meanwhile, here in REALITY: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/23/economy/china-coal-reliance-heat-wave-intl-hnk/index.html

~TLDR: Coal consumption and generation capacity hit ALL TIME HIGH's in China rising from 67% to 69% from coal in 2022, ... NOT the pathetic utopian dream BS you posted

 

All time high??? the only one that is high is you.......

from the IEA

 

In China, coal demand is estimated to have declined by 3% in the first half of 2022 as renewed Covid lockdowns in some cities slowed economic growth, but an expected increase in the second half of the year is likely to bring coal consumption for the full year back to the same levels as last year.

 

This has already been posted on this forum before..... I guess your low IQ keeps you from remembering the facts

Footinthemouth....... Please try to keep up with what is happening instead of your nonstop posting of BS

Edited September 23, 2022 by notsonice

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6 minutes ago, notsonice said:

 

All time high??? the only one that is high is you.......

from the IEA

 

In China, coal demand is estimated to have declined by 3% in the first half of 2022 as renewed Covid lockdowns in some cities slowed economic growth, but an expected increase in the second half of the year is likely to bring coal consumption for the full year back to the same levels as last year.

 

This has already been posted on this forum before..... I guess your low IQ keeps you from remembering the facts

 

Dear noread; CAN YOU READ?  The ALL TIME HIGH, was from, uh hem, FROM China's own National Development and Reform Commission..... Not some "idiot" IEA political whore "estimate"...

Only Low IQ fools publish/tout "computer models" and "estimates" as facts...

EDIT: Now, noread, maybe you can say the Chinese are LIARS, but last I checked in this specific case, they have no reason to lie. 

Edited September 23, 2022 by footeab@yahoo.com

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On 9/23/2022 at 2:16 AM, notsonice said:

so the answer to the question.....

are you still holding onto your horse drawn world? or are doing the same with your coal powered steam engine ???

 

is yes????

 

enjoy cleaning up after your horse and enjoy shoveling coal at the same time you are puttering along at 5 mph......

An EV has neither problems

 

 

You might not know you might have a problem i.e. Never read in full before you try to rebuke with mere intention to defend your stand or EV sales ......... You invested or own one car factory?

Please read one more time, what you might have missed:

"Open you eyes to see wider than EV vs non EV; solar-wind vs non renewable.

Bigger things in more massive scale of usages are causing climate change than the said culprit fossil fuel alone......

We overlooked the simple causal agents. Our targeted solutions are skewed. We will never achieve the aim of helping the earth to recover shall we insist on looking at the wrong things and going the wrong ways......."

23 hours ago, notsonice said:

China is also lying about their GDP growth and the construction of new coal fired power plants. The are also lying about their coal output.... Yet you bought their BS and posted it here..........

 

Fentanyl......Dude what are you babbling about????? are you on the pipe again?

Taking time to read is essential as well as to understand........ Did you notice the news you posted started with the place where the things reported happening............  Lagos, is it somewhere in Africa?  Not China? You might have quoted the wrong country with the wrong data........... ? 'o'   '-'

Edited September 24, 2022 by specinho

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On 9/16/2022 at 7:07 PM, Jay McKinsey said:

Yes you said the dealers would sue and win and  yet they aren't suing and they aren't winning. All you have done is point out another thing you were wrong about.

Wrong you state..In many circles accountability is frowned upon. Those thoughts will soon be diminished to the ravages of time.  Humiliation is not Farley's future..far worse implications are on the horizon. This crisis has gone beyond law suits.

 

Ford CEO Farley Faces New Humiliation

Barely a month ago, Ford announced it would raise the price of the F-150 Lightning. The increase will be between $6,000 and $8,500, due to the fact that battery costs have soared. Once again, it is hard to understand why Ford could not detect this problem much earlier. Ford has sold over six million F-150s in the last decade. There is no target market for a new vehicle that is even close to this size. The price increase will cut demand among these owners. Ford will also increase the price of the Mustang Mach-E by over $8,000. This, as well, may erode demand needed for success in a

 

 

 

 

Edited September 25, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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9 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Wrong you state..In many circles accountability is frowned upon. Those thoughts will soon be diminished to the ravages of time.  Humiliation is not Farley's future..far worse implications are on the horizon. This crisis has gone beyond law suits.

 

Ford CEO Farley Faces New Humiliation

Barely a month ago, Ford announced it would raise the price of the F-150 Lightning. The increase will be between $6,000 and $8,500, due to the fact that battery costs have soared. Once again, it is hard to understand why Ford could not detect this problem much earlier. Ford has sold over six million F-150s in the last decade. There is no target market for a new vehicle that is even close to this size. The price increase will cut demand among these owners. Ford will also increase the price of the Mustang Mach-E by over $8,000. This, as well, may erode demand needed for success in a

 

 

 

 

Yea yea, your the kid who upends the game board because you lose. No Accountability. 

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On 9/23/2022 at 3:30 PM, Ron Wagner said:

The cost of lithium is soaring, so will the cost of the batteries you take for granted. The cost of  other "rare" metals is also. The cost of new electrical lines and towers etc has not been factored in. Solar is not even as competitive as wind. Wave has not yet been successful that I know of. 

Natural gas, is the best clean answer for the volumes needed. It is still being flared worldwide. It is the best and simple answer IMHO. It can be produced from any biomass. See my topic on biogas https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N-TLMeHsKYBCirxS0vbqMGHpU2SmyLuCc7bqp8eYXVM/edit

Did you know Tesla is building a lithium processing plant at the Austin plant.? How do you know what Tesla will charge for their cars. So far they can’t keep up with demand and are sold out several months in advance. I think you just want to be negative even though you won’t keep up with the facts. 

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19 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Wrong you state..In many circles accountability is frowned upon. Those thoughts will soon be diminished to the ravages of time.  Humiliation is not Farley's future..far worse implications are on the horizon. This crisis has gone beyond law suits.

 

Ford CEO Farley Faces New Humiliation

Barely a month ago, Ford announced it would raise the price of the F-150 Lightning. The increase will be between $6,000 and $8,500, due to the fact that battery costs have soared. Once again, it is hard to understand why Ford could not detect this problem much earlier. Ford has sold over six million F-150s in the last decade. There is no target market for a new vehicle that is even close to this size. The price increase will cut demand among these owners. Ford will also increase the price of the Mustang Mach-E by over $8,000. This, as well, may erode demand needed for success in a

 

 

 

 

Yet EV sales just keep skyrocketing. 

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Taylor Texas just a couple scant miles from the Tesla Giga plant is building a chip plant. The car/semi/pickup plant is somewhere around the 2 billion mark in building cost. The chip plant being built by Samsung is reported to cost 17 billion. Austin will explode with growth. 

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On 9/17/2022 at 6:17 PM, specinho said:

📢   📢   📢  

The greenest vehicle show case.............. animal carts.... e.g. horse, cow, etc.

 

 

 

What about the animal farts?

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On 9/23/2022 at 7:04 AM, Michael Sanches said:

Fortunately, coal is coming to the rescue.

In China 104 coal plants of a total of 102 gigawatts (GW) in 26 countries are planned, considered, or in construction under either Chinese financing or engineering, procurement and construction (EPCs) agreements, CREA and its partner in the report, People of Asia for Climate Solutions, said.

7.6 GW or 14 plants, have already entered into operation over the past year. Another 27 plants with 23 GW capacity are near completion, and they will likely enter into operation soon.

China and India combined have in H1 of 2022 new capacity of 9.38GW

In the same peroid they had 11.167GW of retired capacity!

New build does NOT mean growth!!

https://globalenergymonitor.org/projects/global-coal-plant-tracker/?gclid=CjwKCAjwm8WZBhBUEiwA178UnIqI_01bdKF8hYToYlfngpD0hRB-tKyLpH96vUbfZQv_XZS8zdFj0BoCrH8QAvD_BwE

click on the summary tables for newly operating and retired

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1W3pt5FhqitHwbVWvvgfRr0S6QfqfOuea9pt3-Mlxp5M/edit#gid=1682876416

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xUOYq8tUZi2dcHLRZ3W1viZHyGgUlbrMxG5xIXyTOug/edit#gid=81921775

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On 9/18/2022 at 7:01 PM, Ron Wagner said:

 

This does not include existing underground fossil fuels under the land or under the lakes and oceans. It is continuously being produced. Mankind is very small compared to all the methane (natural gas), oil, coal, peat, etc. produced by the dead bodies of living things. 

The tiny green things and little squiggly things rule this planet.

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On 9/22/2022 at 2:16 PM, notsonice said:

so the answer to the question.....

are you still holding onto your horse drawn world? or are doing the same with your coal powered steam engine ???

 

is yes????

 

enjoy cleaning up after your horse and enjoy shoveling coal at the same time you are puttering along at 5 mph......

An EV has neither problems

 

 

Enjoy cleaning up after Biden.

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On 9/25/2022 at 12:21 PM, Jay McKinsey said:

Yet EV sales just keep skyrocketing. 

Not really, nothing is skyrocketing right now.

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Oil prices look to have a robust next few years, according to the experts.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Oil-Prices-Are-About-To-Reverse-Course.html

"Crude has fallen below $80 on recession fears.

Some large investment banks including JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs remain highly bullish on crude.

Aramco CEO Nasser: the oil market is not in balance, and supply is getting tighter because there is little in the way of new supply to make up for natural depletion."

Edited September 27, 2022 by Ecocharger

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Italy has had enough of the bumbling climate fanatics who have taken Europe into an economic meltdown for no good reason.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63029909

"Ms Meloni wants to revisit Italian reforms agreed with the EU in return for almost €200bn (£178bn) in post-Covid recovery grants and loans, arguing that the energy crisis has changed the situation."

 

Edited September 27, 2022 by Ecocharger

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Biden & Co. need to employ some more accomplished economic advisors, they are still  puzzled about how markets work.

https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Biden-Tells-Gas-Stations-To-Charge-Less-For-Fuel.html

"Administration officials and legislators have also in the recent past wondered why when the price of crude oil falls, it takes weeks for the prices of fuels to fall, too. Oil industry executives have tried explaining how the upstream and the downstream segments work but this has not stopped the calls for lower prices."

Edited September 27, 2022 by Ecocharger

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On 9/26/2022 at 11:08 PM, Ecocharger said:

Oil prices look to have a robust next few years, according to the experts.

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Oil-Prices/Oil-Prices-Are-About-To-Reverse-Course.html

"Crude has fallen below $80 on recession fears.

Some large investment banks including JPMorgan and Goldman Sachs remain highly bullish on crude.

Aramco CEO Nasser: the oil market is not in balance, and supply is getting tighter because there is little in the way of new supply to make up for natural depletion."

Goldman Sachs remain highly bullish on crude???? 

anyone that bought into the GS garbage have lost their shirts....homes...... and are now homeless

here is the highlights of their Jul 14, 2022 call

 

Last week, Goldman’s Courvalin told CNBC that oil could still hit $140 per barrel.

“$140 is still our base case because, unlike equity, which are anticipatory assets, commodities need to solve for today’s mismatched supply and demand,” Courvalin said.   

Under an adverse scenario, Brent’s fair value would be $120 in the second half of 2022 and $110 in 2023, down from Goldman’s forecasts of $135 and $125 a barrel, respectively, the bank’s strategists noted.

Goldman Sachs Remains Bullish On Oil Prices

By Michael Kern - Jul 14, 2022, 5:30 PM CDT

 

Goldman Sachs continues to hold a bullish view on oil despite the ongoing market sell-off, reiterating in a note its stance that “the skew to prices from here is squarely skewed to the upside.”

Goldman Sachs strategists, including Jeffrey Currie and Damien Courvalin, stress-tested their bullish view and found that despite growing concerns over oil fundamentals, both for higher supply and weaker demand, Brent’s fair value would remain above current market forwards in the second half of 2022 and in 2023.  

With low inventories and a potential Saudi/UAE ramp-up in production in the region of 500,000 barrels per day (bpd), which will further deplete “record low spare capacity,” the risks are firmly skewed to the upside, Goldman Sachs’ analysts wrote in the note.

 

Under an adverse scenario, Brent’s fair value would be $120 in the second half of 2022 and $110 in 2023, down from Goldman’s forecasts of $135 and $125 a barrel, respectively, the bank’s strategists noted.

Even the worst-case scenario would still imply a Brent fair value of $105 for H2 2022 and $90 a barrel in 2023, also above market forwards.

“As a result, we reiterate our bullish oil price view following the recent sell-off,” Goldman Sachs said.

Early on Thursday, oil prices were down by 4% to levels last seen in February, just before the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

At the end of last month, Jeffrey Currie, global head of commodities research at Goldman Sachs, said that the upside risk in crude oil and refined products “is tremendously high right now.” The recent pullback in oil prices could be a buying opportunity because prices are set to go higher from here this summer, according to the Wall Street bank.

Last week, Goldman’s Courvalin told CNBC that oil could still hit $140 per barrel.

“$140 is still our base case because, unlike equity, which are anticipatory assets, commodities need to solve for today’s mismatched supply and demand,” Courvalin said.   

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On 9/25/2022 at 9:04 AM, Boat said:

Yea yea, your the kid who upends the game board because you lose. No Accountability. 

Ahh a video that complements your depth. Taking notes is not mandatory yet highly suggested.

https://youtu.be/lL6uB1z95gA

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3 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Taking notes is not mandatory yet highly suggested.

 

How is your trump doing soothsayer?

Endless crow served fresh...

Edited September 27, 2022 by TailingsPond

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1 hour ago, TailingsPond said:

How is your trump doing soothsayer?

Endless crow served fresh...

GREAT! As it was proved, in court the Democrats under Hillary Clinton and associates created out of thin air the Dosseir and all allegations where the main "source" was a Russian spy paid for by the FBI....  You know, basic facts ....

Eat buzzard liar!   Oh... do facts not travel that far north these days?

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10 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

GREAT! As it was proved, in court the Democrats under Hillary Clinton and associates created out of thin air the Dosseir and all allegations where the main "source" was a Russian spy paid for by the FBI....  You know, basic facts ....

Eat buzzard liar!   Oh... do facts not travel that far north these days?

Wow, how irrelevant. Hillary isn't under investigation, Drumpf is and he is losing badly.

Edited September 27, 2022 by Jay McKinsey

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3 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

How is your trump doing soothsayer?

Endless crow served fresh...

45 day's and waiting. Do you have faith in polls? Even Oregon is going to be Red..You might takes notes on the Russian exodus, Washington D.C. will be some guidance.

Edited September 28, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

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59 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

45 day's and waiting. Do you have faith in polls? Even Oregon is going to be Red..You might takes notes on the Russian exodus, Washington D.C. will be some guidance.

45 days till we indict him.

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3 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

GREAT! As it was proved, in court the Democrats under Hillary Clinton and associates created out of thin air the Dosseir and all allegations where the main "source" was a Russian spy paid for by the FBI....  You know, basic facts ....

Eat buzzard liar!   Oh... do facts not travel that far north these days?

Watch it all unfold ashamed child.

All you have is "But, but Hillary!"

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1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

45 day's and waiting. Do you have faith in polls? Even Oregon is going to be Red..You might takes notes on the Russian exodus, Washington D.C. will be some guidance.

Okay let's revisit this in 45days.

Be hungry as much crow will be served up fresh!