notsonice + 693 DM June 4 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Market value for vehicles of EVs is less than 1%. That is not even a marginal player. you failed to answer the question ...so here it is again Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion????? demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,199 June 4 (edited) 21 minutes ago, notsonice said: you failed to answer the question ...so here it is again Is this why the market cap for Tesla is 729 Billion dollars and Ford is only 54 Billion????? demand forces makes Tesla worth over 13 times Ford....Got it E if you had a solid high school education you might understand econ 101. Gov't welfare is over. Tesla loses $126 billion in value amid Elon Musk-Twitter deal funding concern Elon Musk says plans to cut Tesla jobs by 10% would only apply to salaried staff An earlier report by Reuters said Musk planned to cut Tesla staff by 10% because he has a "super bad feeling about the economy." Edited June 4 by Eyes Wide Open Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh June 4 On 5/31/2022 at 5:42 PM, notsonice said: This trial was merely discovery???? at discovery hearings they do not have juries...... do you think another trial for Sussmann is coming up???? ha ha ha ha ha ha, it was Trumps big trial of the century.....Man it must suck to be a Trump supporter and lose lose lose, ha ha ha. Dude that is all you have more BS babble on Durham on a thread labeled green-new-deal How is the taste of crap in your mouth today....I bet you that your master Trump dropped a load in his diaper...... Not Guilty....... Must suck to be a nutjob thinking that Trump and his pal Durham had anything.... And please get a mental health check as you really keep babbling and posting BS... Are you able to stay on topic ??? or do you just walk around all day, in a rubber padded room, in circles?? why the you and told you ? Turley???? ha ha ha. That Bozo is never right ha ha ha ha ha ha I went through the charges with you and told you how Durham had screwed up on the rules of evidence, procedure and the Miranda warning. Even a first year law school drop out knows the Miranda warning. Apparently you need a dump truck load of lithium to deal with your mental deficiencies. Either that or an in determinant sentence for stupidity and willful blindness. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 693 DM June 4 1 hour ago, nsdp said: I went through the charges with you and told you how Durham had screwed up on the rules of evidence, procedure and the Miranda warning. Even a first year law school drop out knows the Miranda warning. Apparently you need a dump truck load of lithium to deal with your mental deficiencies. Either that or an in determinant sentence for stupidity and willful blindness. what are you babbling about.................You were babbling with someone else about Durham screw ups....Do you not remember who you were going back and forth with? it was not me, turkey. Stay on your meds Mental deficiencies???? yes you have more than a boat load old man Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 693 DM June 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: E if you had a solid high school education you might understand econ 101. Gov't welfare is over. Tesla loses $126 billion in value amid Elon Musk-Twitter deal funding concern Elon Musk says plans to cut Tesla jobs by 10% would only apply to salaried staff An earlier report by Reuters said Musk planned to cut Tesla staff by 10% because he has a "super bad feeling about the economy." ha ha ha, I was just pointing out to your dimwitted pal Ecochump that his comment.....The stock market reflects underlying demand forces in the American economy ........shows that the market values EV companies over ICE companies... The stock markets really does look both at today's value along with what it perceives as where the market is going. Obviously the market puts high value an EV producers. you obviously missed the sarcasm in my comments. Guess your pal Ecochump has company when you are around. Lets say he is Tweedle Dee and you are Treedle Dum. You two look and post so alike , you have to be twins..... Tesla needs to cut its costs fast to remain on top of the market...we all know that ....... in the long run I think Tesla is doomed. I have stated many times over I think Tesla will be gone in 5 years. Not due to the failure of the EV market, but due to the failure of Tesla to be able to compete against Ford, etc. in the EV market. The price on EVs is falling fast, to the point they are competitive with ICE vehicles. With the price of gas nearing $5 a gallon......All EV production will be sold out for years to come. Only reason Tesla is around today is everyone else initially missed the boom in demand for EVs. PS Do not invest in Auto oil change companies.......they are on the way out.... Elon is a fool for trying to buy twitter as no one would put much real value in Tesla stock as collateral for a loan to buy Twitter. Edited June 4 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 4 16 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: BUT OF COURSE! Once again that analytical mind of yours is in top form. An uncertain future for America’s wind energy capital About 2,200 wind turbines were built in Texas in 2017, more than ever before, as wind industry companies try to snag billions of dollars in federal tax subsidies before they expire at the end of 2019. This has set off a wind rush nationwide, but it’s also set up a fight at the state level to regulate this overlooked industry without clipping its wings. https://publicintegrity.org/politics/state-politics/an-uncertain-future-for-americas-wind-energy-capital/ Yes the federal onshore wind subsidy has ended. So far this year wind plus solar have outproduced gas in Texas. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 4 14 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: E if you had a solid high school education you might understand econ 101. Gov't welfare is over. Tesla loses $126 billion in value amid Elon Musk-Twitter deal funding concern Elon Musk says plans to cut Tesla jobs by 10% would only apply to salaried staff An earlier report by Reuters said Musk planned to cut Tesla staff by 10% because he has a "super bad feeling about the economy." Tesla made 5.5 billion in Q1 of which government credits were only 679 million. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 119 GE June 4 16 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: The Kracken Arises...Albeit Green. LOL. You and you mythical creatures. eat crow. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 693 DM June 5 5 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Tesla made 5.5 billion in Q1 of which government credits were only 679 million. Jay I would never put much value on gross profit or margin.....It is all about Net profit IE how much money you made after all costs have been subtracted.... Gross Profit vs. Net Profit RACHEL BLAKELY-GRAY | OCT 09, 2018 Calculating your business profits shows you how much money your company brings in. And, you can compare profits from previous accounting periods to determine growth. There are two types of profit that businesses must deal with and calculate: gross profit and net profit. Understand gross profit vs. net profit to make business decisions, create accurate financial statements, and monitor your financial health. Gross profit vs. net profit Profit is the amount of money your business gains. The difference between gross profit and net profit is when you subtract expenses. Gross profit is your business’s revenue minus the cost of goods sold. Your cost of goods sold (COGS) is how much money you spend directly making your products. But, your business’s other expenses are not included in your COGS. Gross profit is your company’s profit before subtracting expenses. Net profit is your business’s revenue after subtracting all operating, interest, and tax expenses, in addition to deducting your COGS. To calculate net profit, you must know your company’s gross profit. Your business’s net profit is known as a net loss if the number is negative. Your business might have a high gross profit and a significantly lower net profit, depending on how many expenses you have. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 5 (edited) 1 hour ago, notsonice said: Jay I would never put much value on gross profit or margin.....It is all about Net profit IE how much money you made after all costs have been subtracted.... Gross Profit vs. Net Profit RACHEL BLAKELY-GRAY | OCT 09, 2018 Calculating your business profits shows you how much money your company brings in. And, you can compare profits from previous accounting periods to determine growth. There are two types of profit that businesses must deal with and calculate: gross profit and net profit. Understand gross profit vs. net profit to make business decisions, create accurate financial statements, and monitor your financial health. Gross profit vs. net profit Profit is the amount of money your business gains. The difference between gross profit and net profit is when you subtract expenses. Gross profit is your business’s revenue minus the cost of goods sold. Your cost of goods sold (COGS) is how much money you spend directly making your products. But, your business’s other expenses are not included in your COGS. Gross profit is your company’s profit before subtracting expenses. Net profit is your business’s revenue after subtracting all operating, interest, and tax expenses, in addition to deducting your COGS. To calculate net profit, you must know your company’s gross profit. Your business’s net profit is known as a net loss if the number is negative. Your business might have a high gross profit and a significantly lower net profit, depending on how many expenses you have. Yeah, I was focusing on the automotive part of the company and the proportion of it being government credits. Total Tesla net income: Edited June 5 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 968 DL June 5 On 6/3/2022 at 10:52 PM, Jay McKinsey said: Hasn't happened. Although failing fossil fuel plants, particularly in Texas, are a concern. Fossil fuels rule. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,288 RG June 5 If Fossil Fuels didn’t pollute, explode and kill your opinion would be hard to argue against. Even with all those negatives human as a race can out procreate all the mayhem, cost and death. Just keep on humping is a religious and national security popular idea as well. But if we can power the world cleaner you can move on to porn hub, have fewer children and live to 120 with plenty of space and robots to feed us. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,288 RG June 5 On 6/3/2022 at 10:05 PM, Eyes Wide Open said: Deregulated energy markets made Texas a clean energy giant. https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/457353-deregulated-energy-markets-made-texas-a-clean-energy-giant/ The Kracken Arises...Albeit Green. I hear a Russian oligarch may own the two largest companies on the grid? Champion and another? You know Russians are disruptive, not to good on maintenance and focus on money. Maybe do some research. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boat + 1,288 RG June 5 18 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Yes the federal onshore wind subsidy has ended. So far this year wind plus solar have outproduced gas in Texas. Cool chart. Perovskite solar cells may reach over 30% efficiency soon. The latest tech selling seems to be around 22%. Most of our installed solar runs 16%-19%. So yes, that represents a dramatic boost of electricity assuming labor and installation stay the same. I still believe tech will push the electric world like electronics pushed the TV and phone. Another fav topic is the world of battery mining to giga factories to grid storage to electric cars to home energy systems. Once winners emerge, scale is recognized and consolidation starts happening I believe a serious round of price cuts will push further expansion. My vision of imagining happens in 5-7 years. But hey, you can’t stop it, just report on the progress. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 406 June 5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq1LlDMizc4 I-Team: Hidden cameras reveal dark side of solar power 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 5 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Fossil fuels rule. So coal produced electricity in the US decreased in Q1 of this year from last Q1. Yet you assured us over and over again that coal was going to keep going up. Edited June 5 by Jay McKinsey 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,199 June 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: So coal produced electricity in the US decreased in Q1 of this year from last Q1. Yet you assured us over and over again that coal was going to keep going up. U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) reporting 12.6 GW of coal capacity will close in 2022, representing 85% of all electric generation capacity retirements this year. https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2022/03/15/so-much-for-coals-rebound-plant-closures-come-roaring-back-smart-policy-must-unlock-a-just-transition/ Much of the U.S. could see power blackouts this summer, a grid assessment reveals Some troubling news as we inch towards summer - parts of the U.S. power grid face high risks of outages. A new grid reliability report shows that places in the Midwest, California and Texas may not have enough power as temperatures rise and residents crank up air conditioners. NPR's Laura Benshoff reports. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/20/1100327262/much-of-the-u-s-could-see-power-blackouts-this-summer-a-grid-assessment-reveals Edited June 6 by Eyes Wide Open 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 6 10 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) reporting 12.6 GW of coal capacity will close in 2022, representing 85% of all electric generation capacity retirements this year. https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2022/03/15/so-much-for-coals-rebound-plant-closures-come-roaring-back-smart-policy-must-unlock-a-just-transition/ Much of the U.S. could see power blackouts this summer, a grid assessment reveals Some troubling news as we inch towards summer - parts of the U.S. power grid face high risks of outages. A new grid reliability report shows that places in the Midwest, California and Texas may not have enough power as temperatures rise and residents crank up air conditioners. NPR's Laura Benshoff reports. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/20/1100327262/much-of-the-u-s-could-see-power-blackouts-this-summer-a-grid-assessment-reveals But you guys assured us it is going to be a mild summer because we are entering a solar cooling trend. If it is a mild summer then there won't be a problem. We are adding more power than we are retiring. In 2022, we expect 46.1 gigawatts (GW) of new utility-scale electric generating capacity to be added to the U.S. power grid, according to our Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory. Almost half of the planned 2022 capacity additions are solar, followed by natural gas at 21% and wind at 17%. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 968 DL June 6 5 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: So coal produced electricity in the US decreased in Q1 of this year from last Q1. Yet you assured us over and over again that coal was going to keep going up. World wide coal is on a roll, ramping up to new heights in many countries. Fossil fuels are 85% of world energy supply. Fossil fuels are on a roll. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 968 DL June 6 3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: But you guys assured us it is going to be a mild summer because we are entering a solar cooling trend. If it is a mild summer then there won't be a problem. We are adding more power than we are retiring. In 2022, we expect 46.1 gigawatts (GW) of new utility-scale electric generating capacity to be added to the U.S. power grid, according to our Preliminary Monthly Electric Generator Inventory. Almost half of the planned 2022 capacity additions are solar, followed by natural gas at 21% and wind at 17%. The summer has ended, Jay? Funny, I thought that June just began. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 968 DL June 6 (edited) "Oil rigs in the United States stayed the same this week at 574. Gas rigs also stayed the same, at 151. Miscellaneous rigs stayed the same at 2. The rig count in the Permian Basin also saw no changes this week, staying at 342. The Eagle Ford also saw no changes, staying at 66. Oil and gas rigs in the Permian are 110 above where they were this time last year. Primary Vision’s Frac Spread Count, an estimate of the number of crews completing unfinished wells, fell to 283 to 727 in the week ending May 27—down from 288 in the week prior. U.S. crude oil production was unmovable at 11.9 million bpd for the week ending May 27, according to the latest Energy Information Administration—an increase of 300,000 bpd rise since the Russian invasion of Ukraine." https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/New-Drilling-Stalls-Out-In-The-US-Oil-Patch.html Despite red hot demand for oil and gasoline, the American oil sector is no going to bankroll a bailout for the current guy in the White House. The White House has dug its own predicament for energy and must face the consequences at the mid-term, when a general political cleansing operation will be enacted on the Congress. Edited June 6 by Ecocharger 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,317 June 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: World wide coal is on a roll, ramping up to new heights in many countries. Fossil fuels are 85% of world energy supply. Fossil fuels are on a roll. By many countries you mean two countries, India and China , and it is still not certain that they will reach their all time high. Or that it won't be offset globally by decreases elsewhere. Edited June 6 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nsdp + 449 eh June 6 5 hours ago, Eyes Wide Open said: U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) reporting 12.6 GW of coal capacity will close in 2022, representing 85% of all electric generation capacity retirements this year. https://www.forbes.com/sites/energyinnovation/2022/03/15/so-much-for-coals-rebound-plant-closures-come-roaring-back-smart-policy-must-unlock-a-just-transition/ Much of the U.S. could see power blackouts this summer, a grid assessment reveals Some troubling news as we inch towards summer - parts of the U.S. power grid face high risks of outages. A new grid reliability report shows that places in the Midwest, California and Texas may not have enough power as temperatures rise and residents crank up air conditioners. NPR's Laura Benshoff reports. https://www.npr.org/2022/05/20/1100327262/much-of-the-u-s-could-see-power-blackouts-this-summer-a-grid-assessment-revealswas ERCOT's problem was a stroke of stupidity 7 years ago when some dumbass pretending to be governor allowed the City of Lubbock to switch from SPP to ERCOT with only Jones station as generating supply. That generates 25% of the Lubbock load or slightly less than Texas Tech uses. ERCOT was still in the hole on generation from Christmas-New Years 2015 (Storm named Goliath) or slightly less than Texas Tech uses. ERCOT is still in the hole on generation from last month's peak. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 119 GE June 6 https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/how-cheap-component-could-help-kill-off-combustion-cars-2022-05-30/?utm_source=pocket-newtab Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 406 June 6 (edited) https://www.nada.org/nada/nada-headlines/new-light-vehicle-sales-down-126-month-over-month Edited June 6 by Ron Wagner 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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