Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 26, 2023 6 hours ago, TailingsPond said: The total supply includes ICE vehicles. "The supply of unsold EVs at the start of September was MODESTLY lower" Do you read your own posts? That means that unsold EV stockpiles are way up YOY. And fossil fuel vehicles stockpiles of unsold vehicles are low. Looks like you struck out again. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: So the EV inventory is down and the fossil fuel inventory is up. Very simple concept, what don't you understand? So the EV inventory is slightly down but still at a historic and unmanageable high, and fossil fuel vehicles still have low inventories. As I said, from your own mouth you confirm that you were wrong. And how is your new EV holding up Jay? Or are you still clinging to that old, polluting fossil fuel car which you have been driving for a dog's age? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: So the EV inventory is slightly down but still at a historic and unmanageable high, and fossil fuel vehicles still have low inventories. As I said, from your own mouth you confirm that you were wrong. And how is your new EV holding up Jay? Or are you still clinging to that old, polluting fossil fuel car which you have been driving for a dog's age? HaHa you just keeping making up lies. The report clearly destroys your claims. EV sales just keeping growing. What are you going to claim next month? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: HaHa you just keeping making up lies. The report clearly destroys your claims. EV sales just keeping growing. What are you going to claim next month? Jay, the bottom line is high inventory levels for EVs, right from your own source there, which you cannot even see. That means unsold stock and pressure to cut production, basic economics, which you claim to be conversant with. And how is your fossil fuel car doing, Jay? You know those unsold EV inventories are because people like yourself refuse to put your money where your mouth is and buy into the Green Garbage. Why don't you help the faltering EV business and show us you mean business? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 27, 2023 11 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Jay, the bottom line is high inventory levels for EVs, right from your own source there, which you cannot even see. That means unsold stock and pressure to cut production, basic economics, which you claim to be conversant with. And how is your fossil fuel car doing, Jay? You know those unsold EV inventories are because people like yourself refuse to put your money where your mouth is and buy into the Green Garbage. Why don't you help the faltering EV business and show us you mean business? You keep ignoring this part of the article, these are gas mobiles: Throughout August, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles climbed above 2 million units, a level not seen since April 2021. Inventory stood at 2.06 million units at the start of September, up from a revised 1.96 million at the beginning of August, according to Cox Automotive’s analysis of vAuto Available Inventory data. That was 68% higher than a year ago, or about 837,000 units. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: You keep ignoring this part of the article, these are gas mobiles: Throughout August, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles climbed above 2 million units, a level not seen since April 2021. Inventory stood at 2.06 million units at the start of September, up from a revised 1.96 million at the beginning of August, according to Cox Automotive’s analysis of vAuto Available Inventory data. That was 68% higher than a year ago, or about 837,000 units. Jay, "a year ago" means not recent, and EVs are still at a gigantic level of unsold inventory, that is what this article says. High inventories means that production should decline, that is how any business works. And your own condition tells us the real story, you are still clinging to fossil fuel vehicles, you refuse to buy an EV. That tells us everything we need to know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 27, 2023 (edited) A Blizzard of Lies is a good description of the Green fiction surrounding the anti-CO2 mania. The forces of change clearly cannot get their act together. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/SEC-Flags-Deutsches-DWS-Over-False-ESG-Investment-Claims.html "The SEC charged DWS Investment Management Americas Inc. for making misleading claims about its ESG investment procedures and for failing to set up an effective AML program. DIMA marketed itself as an ESG leader but didn't adequately implement its global ESG integration policy as promoted between 2018 and 2021. On the AML front, DWS didn't ensure its mutual funds had an AML program tailored to their specific risks, which is legally required." Edited September 27, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 27, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Jay, "a year ago" means not recent, and EVs are still at a gigantic level of unsold inventory, that is what this article says. High inventories means that production should decline, that is how any business works. And your own condition tells us the real story, you are still clinging to fossil fuel vehicles, you refuse to buy an EV. That tells us everything we need to know. "Throughout August, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles climbed above 2 million units, a level not seen since April 2021. Inventory stood at 2.06 million units at the start of September, up from a revised 1.96 million at the beginning of August." While EV inventory was down. Edited September 27, 2023 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM September 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Jay, the bottom line is high inventory levels for EVs, right from your own source there, which you cannot even see. That means unsold stock and pressure to cut production, basic economics, which you claim to be conversant with. And how is your fossil fuel car doing, Jay? You know those unsold EV inventories are because people like yourself refuse to put your money where your mouth is and buy into the Green Garbage. Why don't you help the faltering EV business and show us you mean business? huh EV s sold in August is reported at 126,000 units and the inventory is at 91,000 that means there is a 23 day supply on hand at dealerships........... in other words dealers are in short supply of EVs as they are selling them as fast as the hit the lots can you say that for ICE vehicles right now??????? Nope 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: "Throughout August, the total U.S. supply of available unsold new vehicles climbed above 2 million units, a level not seen since April 2021. Inventory stood at 2.06 million units at the start of September, up from a revised 1.96 million at the beginning of August." While EV inventory was down. Baloney, EV inventories were only slightly down and still at historic highs meaning pressure to reduce production. Jay, you are trying to feed us the same old guff again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 (edited) The Green Madness is coming to a screeching halt as reality bites hard. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Wind-And-Solar-Dreams-Clashing-With-Hard-Economic-Facts.html "The IEA's predictions on reduced need for oil and gas have been contradicted by their own calls for increased exploration amid rising demand. High costs of raw materials and development in the wind and solar sectors, combined with competition from cheap Chinese imports, challenge the EU and US transition plans. Political shifts in Europe, including policy reversals and the consideration of the economic burden on citizens, highlight the complexity and costs of achieving net-zero goals." Edited September 28, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 1,008 GE September 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: The Green Madness is coming to a screeching halt as reality bites hard. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Wind-And-Solar-Dreams-Clashing-With-Hard-Economic-Facts.html The IEA's predictions on reduced need for oil and gas have been contradicted by their own calls for increased exploration amid rising demand. Same opinion article. Super cheap solar. Contradiction. "Solar is doing better, but this may yet change, in Europe, at least. Solar is currently cheap because the majority of existing projects use cheap Chinese solar panels. European panel producers are crying out against this because they can't make a buck pitted against this low-cost competition." Furthermore, oil needs continuous exploration just to maintain production levels as old sources degrade. Reduced need and some exploration is not necessarily a contradiction. Quick search show rig counts declining... https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_rotary_rigs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 28, 2023 58 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Baloney, EV inventories were only slightly down and still at historic highs meaning pressure to reduce production. Jay, you are trying to feed us the same old guff again. By same old guff you mean reality. EV sales just keep climbing. A total of 126,294 plug-in vehicles (99,089 BEVs and 27,205 PHEVs) were sold during August 2023 in the United States, up 71.5% from the sales in August 2022. PEVs captured 9.51% of total LDV sales this month. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 1 hour ago, TailingsPond said: Same opinion article. Super cheap solar. Contradiction. "Solar is doing better, but this may yet change, in Europe, at least. Solar is currently cheap because the majority of existing projects use cheap Chinese solar panels. European panel producers are crying out against this because they can't make a buck pitted against this low-cost competition." Furthermore, oil needs continuous exploration just to maintain production levels as old sources degrade. Reduced need and some exploration is not necessarily a contradiction. Quick search show rig counts declining... https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_rotary_rigs Rigs declining but production increasing, with productivity per well increasing. Oil demand is increasing like crazy and driving oil prices above $100. Enjoy, enjoy! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 (edited) The reality of energy markets conflicts with the ridiculous calls for energy transition. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Financial-Uncertainty-Surrounds-Oil-And-Gas-Funding.html "Even the European Union has recently acknowledged that global and EU economies will rely on hydrocarbons for energy and products for decades to come. Given the scale of the challenge, it's essential to recognize that many national oil companies are not even required to disclose their investment portfolios. The €1 trillion figure mentioned in The Guardian's report is likely just the tip of the iceberg, with no sign of it melting away. In the coming years, based on international reports such as those from OPEC and the EIA, demand for oil and gas is expected to continue growing until it possibly peaks after 2040. " Edited September 28, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Jay McKinsey said: By same old guff you mean reality. EV sales just keep climbing. A total of 126,294 plug-in vehicles (99,089 BEVs and 27,205 PHEVs) were sold during August 2023 in the United States, up 71.5% from the sales in August 2022. PEVs captured 9.51% of total LDV sales this month. EVs are piling up on American sales lots at a record pace. That means a strong signal to reduce production of EVs unless the Biden government pours billions of wasted tax dollars into the EV coffers. A losing scenario going forward. Britain has now seen a rapid 27% reduction in personal demand for EVs with the incentives from government removed, necessitated by the broken budget dynamics of the British government. Watch for the same process to repeat in America if Biden & Co. are not relieved of office next term. One thing you can say for Biden's group, they know how to waste money at a record pace. Edited September 28, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM September 28, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Ecocharger said: EVs are piling up on American sales lots at a record pace. That means a strong signal to reduce production of EVs unless the Biden government pours billions of wasted tax dollars into the EV coffers. A losing scenario going forward. Britain has now seen a rapid 27% reduction in personal demand for EVs with the incentives from government removed, necessitated by the broken budget dynamics of the British government. Watch for the same process to repeat in America if Biden & Co. are not relieved of office next term. One thing you can say for Biden's group, they know how to waste money at a record pace. piling up???? huh EV s sold in August is reported at 126,000 units and the inventory is at 91,000 that means there is a 23 day supply on hand at dealerships........... in other words dealers are in short supply of EVs as they are selling them as fast as they hit the lots can you say that for ICE vehicles right now??????? Nope Edited September 28, 2023 by notsonice Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 28, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ecocharger said: EVs are piling up on American sales lots at a record pace. That means a strong signal to reduce production of EVs unless the Biden government pours billions of wasted tax dollars into the EV coffers. A losing scenario going forward. Britain has now seen a rapid 27% reduction in personal demand for EVs with the incentives from government removed, necessitated by the broken budget dynamics of the British government. Watch for the same process to repeat in America if Biden & Co. are not relieved of office next term. One thing you can say for Biden's group, they know how to waste money at a record pace. UK BEV sales were up 72% in August, real world numbers continue to show how much BS you are spouting: We are, of course, most interested in all-electric cars. This segment is growing faster than any other one and represented 20 percent of new car registrations last month (compared to less than 15 percent a year ago). Plug-in electric car registrations in the UK – August 2023 BEVs: 17,243 (up 72%) and 20.1% market share https://insideevs.com/news/685276/uk-plugin-car-sales-august2023/#:~:text=Plug-in electric car registrations in the UK – August 2023&text=BEVs%3A 193%2C218 (up 41%),%) and 23.2% market share Edited September 28, 2023 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: UK BEV sales were up 72% in August, real world numbers continue to show how much BS you are spouting: We are, of course, most interested in all-electric cars. This segment is growing faster than any other one and represented 20 percent of new car registrations last month (compared to less than 15 percent a year ago). Plug-in electric car registrations in the UK – August 2023 BEVs: 17,243 (up 72%) and 20.1% market share https://insideevs.com/news/685276/uk-plugin-car-sales-august2023/#:~:text=Plug-in electric car registrations in the UK – August 2023&text=BEVs%3A 193%2C218 (up 41%),%) and 23.2% market share You are way off base, buddy. UK personal EV sales plunged 27% as a result of removing government EV consumer incentives. The end of the Green Garbage is in sight. Edited September 28, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 (edited) Demand for oil is red hot and depleting oil inventories. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/US-Oil-Price-Hits-Highest-Level-In-13-Months.html "U.S. oil prices climbed to the highest level since August 2022 on Thursday as commercial inventories continued to decline. West Texas Intermediate crude prices surpassed $95 per barrel before falling back below $94. On Wednesday, the EIA reported an inventory draw that was significantly larger than expected." Edited September 28, 2023 by Ecocharger Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM September 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: You are way off base, buddy. UK personal EV sales plunged 27% as a result of removing government EV consumer incentives. The end of the Green Garbage is in sight. The end of the Green Garbage is in sight. ???? you out of ditch weed??? Reality in the real world in the biggest car market in the world EV s sold in August is reported at 126,000 units and the inventory is at 91,000 that means there is a 23 day supply on hand at dealerships........... in other words dealers are in short supply of EVs as they are selling them as fast as they hit the lots can you say that for ICE vehicles right now??????? Nope Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 September 28, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: You are way off base, buddy. UK personal EV sales plunged 27% as a result of removing government EV consumer incentives. The end of the Green Garbage is in sight. Well the real world numbers continue to show that you are just clueless. Here are the UK numbers again from the conservative UK government, BEV sales up 72%: https://media.smmt.co.uk/august-2023-new-car-registrations/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SafetyKris + 10 KC September 28, 2023 Europe is starting to bail on the foundations of the NGD. I expect more ping-pong crawfishing from the IEA as well. Costs of the transition have been glossed over and the world economy simply can't afford it as it's been proposed. The appetite to continue to compete with China's slave labor is waning as well. The proposals of the transition will keep regressng as the true costs to constituents pockets and to global security are revealed. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Wind-And-Solar-Dreams-Clashing-With-Hard-Economic-Facts.html 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM September 28, 2023 2 hours ago, SafetyKris said: Europe is starting to bail on the foundations of the NGD. I expect more ping-pong crawfishing from the IEA as well. Costs of the transition have been glossed over and the world economy simply can't afford it as it's been proposed. The appetite to continue to compete with China's slave labor is waning as well. The proposals of the transition will keep regressng as the true costs to constituents pockets and to global security are revealed. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Wind-And-Solar-Dreams-Clashing-With-Hard-Economic-Facts.html here is a dose of reality ...the true cost of Solar and Wind is it is cheaper than Coal fired or Nat gas in Europe https://cleantechnica.com/2023/09/12/solar-power-europe-predicts-eu-will-reach-its-renewable-energy-goal-3-years-early/ read the whole article and enjoy the transition ....In Europe your electric bill is cheaper now because of wind and solar..... Solar Power Europe Predicts EU Will Reach Its Renewable Energy Goal 3 Years Early Solar power in Europe is enjoying strong growth, so much so that the EU may reach its solar power goal years ahead of time. By Steve Hanley Sign up for daily news updates from CleanTechnica on email. Or follow us on Google News! The 2023 annual report from Solar Power Europe comes to a startling conclusion. It says the EU will reach the renewable energy goal it set for 2030 three years early. The report is 148 pages long, so we are going to summarize it for you. (You’re welcome!) It starts with this introduction: Solar is on the fast track. In 2022, the world installed 239 GW of new solar, finally surpassing the TW-scale. That’s 45% more solar power capacity than the year before. The positive market developments in the first months of 2023 promise another solar boom year, expected to result in 341 GW of newly added solar to the grid by the end of the year — equal to 43% growth. The reasons for this spectacular performance are obvious. It comes down to the unmatched versatility of solar — powering individual energy self sufficiency and comparatively quick deploying utility scale projects at competitive low cost. Despite solar’s levelised cost of electricity (LCOE) sliding upwards due to supply chain issues and inflation recently, it remains profoundly cheaper to produce electricity from solar than from new fossil fuel and nuclear power sources Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL September 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Well the real world numbers continue to show that you are just clueless. Here are the UK numbers again from the conservative UK government, BEV sales up 72%: https://media.smmt.co.uk/august-2023-new-car-registrations/ You are again wide of the mark, old man. Since the end of financial incentives this year, personal EV sales in UK have fallen drastically by 27%. Funny how you have trouble understanding that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites