Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 China vows to start phasing down coal consumption from the 2026-2030 period as part of its efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, President Xi Jinping told the U.S.-led Climate Leaders’ Summit Thursday. “We will strictly limit the increase in coal consumption over the 14th five-year plan period (2021-2025) and phase it down in the 15th five-year plan period (2026-2030),” Xi told the virtual gathering. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-xi-says-worlds-largest-polluter-will-phase-down-coal-consumption-11619105880 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 24, 2021 10 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: I've said plenty about your links. If it already happened then it had no affect whatsoever. The world is moving on with total disregard for your new "science". Jay, the new climate science has won the high ground and taken over the serious discussion on global warming/cooling. Scientists from around the world have abandoned the old CO2 model and begun research on the new solar science. Its all over but the shouting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Chinese government disagrees with you. But then you have never been good with reality. China to further cut coal use in 2021 BEIJING, April 22 (Xinhua) -- China aims to reduce the share of coal in its energy mix to less than 56 percent this year, according to a guideline released by the National Energy Administration (NEA). The proportion was 56.8 percent in 2020 and 57.7 percent in 2019. In 2021, China plans to further replace coal in final energy consumption with electricity equivalent to 200 billion kilowatt-hours, while increasing the proportion of electricity in final energy consumption to 28 percent, said the document. ... In the face of the issue of global climate change, China has announced its goal to peak its carbon dioxide emissions before 2030 and become carbon-neutral by 2060. Enditem http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2021-04/23/c_139899428.htm Again, you stuck on those percentages, Jay. In absolute terms coal is increasing rapidly, check out your own graph, Jay, that's the funny part about this. Do you even bother to read the material you post? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 24, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: China vows to start phasing down coal consumption from the 2026-2030 period as part of its efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, President Xi Jinping told the U.S.-led Climate Leaders’ Summit Thursday. “We will strictly limit the increase in coal consumption over the 14th five-year plan period (2021-2025) and phase it down in the 15th five-year plan period (2026-2030),” Xi told the virtual gathering. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/chinas-xi-says-worlds-largest-polluter-will-phase-down-coal-consumption-11619105880 Look at what the man says, Jay...."We will limit our INCREASE.." Increase means up, Jay, more coal being used by China. Ten years from now you will see fossil fuels not only increased in absolute terms but still at 80% of the energy mix. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 July 24, 2021 (edited) On 7/23/2021 at 12:59 AM, Jay McKinsey said: Good golly you be dense. 2021 is on the left and 2020 is on the right. Seriously, you posted numbers showing the EV market was growing, how can you now claim the opposite??? Pretty much...the industry (EV) is under extreme duress.....Socialist Uncle Bernie is failing in the Green New Deal Funding... https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlRdnEzNGtvQU1FVjBLakpzNHhDM3RLQUFQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen Tesla Dealt Big Blow as Almost All Cars in China Need Safety Fix https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-27/tesla-dealt-big-blow-as-almost-all-cars-in-china-need-safety-fix esla Inc.’s aspirations in China were dealt a major blow over the weekend after the government ordered that almost all the cars it’s sold in the nation -- more than 285,000 of them -- be fixed to address a safety issue. Edited July 24, 2021 by Eyes Wide Open 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HermitMunster + 146 July 24, 2021 It isn't about environmentalism...it's about a shift in power which would take power and money from the oil companies into the pockets of people like Elon Musk and others. This has nothing to do with saving the planet. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Again, you stuck on those percentages, Jay. In absolute terms coal is increasing rapidly, check out your own graph, Jay, that's the funny part about this. Do you even bother to read the material you post? In absolute terms renewables are increasing more than coal. You need to pay more attention. Edited July 24, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Look at what the man says, Jay...."We will limit our INCREASE.." Increase means up, Jay, more coal being used by China. Ten years from now you will see fossil fuels not only increased in absolute terms but still at 80% of the energy mix. Minor increase then down is what he says. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Pretty much...the industry (EV) is under extreme duress.....Socialist Uncle Bernie is failing in the Green New Deal Funding... https://news.google.com/stories/CAAqOQgKIjNDQklTSURvSmMzUnZjbmt0TXpZd1NoTUtFUWlRdnEzNGtvQU1FVjBLakpzNHhDM3RLQUFQAQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen Tesla Dealt Big Blow as Almost All Cars in China Need Safety Fix https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-27/tesla-dealt-big-blow-as-almost-all-cars-in-china-need-safety-fix esla Inc.’s aspirations in China were dealt a major blow over the weekend after the government ordered that almost all the cars it’s sold in the nation -- more than 285,000 of them -- be fixed to address a safety issue. More of your BS. EV sales are going gang busters as I have shown. The Tesla China sales decline was a lie and the recall was fixed with an over the air software update. How many ICE cars get recalled every month? This month: Ford announces recalls for 850K vehicles after reported injuries General Motors issued a recall this week for more than 400,000 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks. The problem is related to roof rail airbags. Edited July 24, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Jay, the new climate science has won the high ground and taken over the serious discussion on global warming/cooling. Scientists from around the world have abandoned the old CO2 model and begun research on the new solar science. Its all over but the shouting. HaHaHaHaHa... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Ecocharger said: Again, you stuck on those percentages, Jay. In absolute terms coal is increasing rapidly, check out your own graph, Jay, that's the funny part about this. Do you even bother to read the material you post? Buy a coal mine and put your money where your mouth is.....Enjoy bankruptcy....It is your right Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specinho + 470 July 24, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ecocharger said: Everything is "growing fast". But there is only room for the fittest to survive. There is a big showdown coming in Texas between solar and oil, these are the two guys fighting over top dog status, and there is only room for one of them in town. The other guy will have to pack up and ride out. I know who gets my bets. https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Clash-Of-the-Energy-Titans-Oil-vs-Solar.html it's a little interesting to read polarized opinions............. Like a tropical kid would be frightened when the sky turned absurdly dark, suddenly, at 4 p.m. or surprised with delight to find the sun still shined at 9.30 p.m., we could be in fear if what we have been having on large scale suddenly overshadowed; or surprised with delight shall what we would like to see is granted for a longer period. The drivers of the disparity might be what we are thinking....... 1. some oil fields are expected to have merely 50 years of reserve, more than 20 years ago. Alternatives to petroleum as fuel are sought after in a panic rush.......... Solar is pushed hard as the sunlight is free, abundant, although not evenly distributed/ available through out geographical areas. 2. pollution, global warming have been somehow linked to burning of fossil fuel. Cleaner, greener technologies and alternatives are sought after. So, we blame the vehicles, industries etc that are using fossil fuel. But very often, a few things slipped, by chance or on purpose....... a) road congestion might be the cause of micro-climate change (localized increment of temperature). By having a better planning to reduce it, the air would be fresh again, e.g. during lock down. - plans of 5 to 10 years, commonly used by private companies to set their achievable goals or missions, have been popularly copied by the governments to set their development plans. However, there might be a need to reinspect this strategy. Roads changed every few years with more adjunct traffic lights, pop up town sheds or high rises etc reduce the efficiency of the initial plan, waste fuel, cause pollution and heat accummulation during traffic stagnancy, reported to have caused civilized sickness e.g. constipation, bladder issue from holding pee in slow moving traffic, modern slavery of overtime without additional pay (including time taken to arrive half an hour to an hour earlier and back late to avoid jam) etc. b) heavy development with many redundant, some of lower quality factories and other properties, particularly in the developing countries. Waste of fuel, waste of energy, waste of food if much unsold, waste of space formerly probably occupied by trees etc Although in a panic, in a rush for change and for alternatives, we love to challenge the hard part and forgo the easier........... would it be worth it at the end, as mentioned by Ecocharger?? Edited July 24, 2021 by specinho 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 July 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay McKinsey said: More of your BS. The Tesla China sales decline was a lie and the recall was fixed with an over the air software update. How many ICE cars get recalled every month? This month: Ford announces recalls for 850K vehicles after reported injuries General Motors issued a recall this week for more than 400,000 Chevy Silverado and GMC Sierra trucks. The problem is related to roof rail airbags. Explainer: What's happening with Tesla's $7 billion German 'gigafactory'? https://www.reuters.com/business/whats-happening-with-teslas-7-billion-german-gigafactory-2021-06-22/ GRUENHEIDE, Germany, June 22 (Reuters) - Next Thursday, July 1, was supposed to be a day of celebration for Tesla: the opening of its self-styled "gigafactory" in the tranquil German municipality of Gruenheide, just outside Berlin. But thanks to fierce environmental resistance, red tape and planning tweaks it is completely unclear when the first vehicles will roll off the production line of the electric carmaker's first European factory. Tesla (TSLA.O) has already pushed back the expected opening to late 2021. Yet the environmental agency in Brandenburg, the state where the 5.8 billion euro ($6.9 billion) plant is being built, has still not given final approval - meaning a further delay cannot be ruled out, even into 2022. Fake News?????? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said: Explainer: What's happening with Tesla's $7 billion German 'gigafactory'? https://www.reuters.com/business/whats-happening-with-teslas-7-billion-german-gigafactory-2021-06-22/ GRUENHEIDE, Germany, June 22 (Reuters) - Next Thursday, July 1, was supposed to be a day of celebration for Tesla: the opening of its self-styled "gigafactory" in the tranquil German municipality of Gruenheide, just outside Berlin. But thanks to fierce environmental resistance, red tape and planning tweaks it is completely unclear when the first vehicles will roll off the production line of the electric carmaker's first European factory. Tesla (TSLA.O) has already pushed back the expected opening to late 2021. Yet the environmental agency in Brandenburg, the state where the 5.8 billion euro ($6.9 billion) plant is being built, has still not given final approval - meaning a further delay cannot be ruled out, even into 2022. Fake News?????? Congratulations, after all that hard googling you found something. However what is really going on is that Elon decided to redesign and expand the factory and it is all these new changes that are causing the delay. "In June, Tesla submitted new documents to the State Office for the Environment. Some of the documents related to the construction of a battery cell manufacturing site on Giga Berlin’s grounds. The documents also revealed that Tesla plans to expand the press shop by adding two more press lines. The company also plans to reduce the body shop into one production line. Tesla’s revision to Giga Berlin’s plans will need to go through another set of rounds in the approval process. Until July 17, the modifications are accessible to the public, who can raise objections to the changes until August 16. Then, the LfU decides whether the objections need further discussion, which may lengthen the approval process even more. " https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-final-approval-delay-minister/ The factory won't even be complete before the end of the year. Edited July 24, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RichieRich216 + 454 RK July 24, 2021 GOOOOO GREEN An electric bus made by Proterra went up in flames while charging in a California city that is reportedly thinking about removing the electric buses from the road. The Washington Free Beacon reportedFriday: The Foothill Transit agency, which serves the valleys surrounding Los Angeles, will decide on Friday whether costly Proterra buses purchased in the last decade are still operable. Problems cited by the agency include not only the bus that caught fire in what’s described as a “thermal event,” but also buses that melt in the California heat and have transmission failures. Roland Cordero, the agency’s director of maintenance and vehicle technology, says the problems with the buses are exacerbated by Proterra’s inability to help with repairs. “With the number of failures we are experiencing and the inability of Proterra to provide parts, these [Battery Electric Buses] BEBs will only get worse as we continue to operate them whenever the BEBs are available for service,” Cordero wrote prior to Friday’s executive board meeting. According to the Proterra website, its vehicles have “proven themselves through more than 20 million miles of service in communities across North America, operating at a lower overall cost than a 35- or 40-foot diesel, hybrid, or CNG transit vehicle.” However, the electric bus company that has been praised by President Joe Biden’s administration watched its stock drop over the past month due to reports of problems with its product, the Beacon article continued: In Philadelphia, mechanical failures and weak battery performance forced city officials to shelve buses received as recently as 2019. In Duluth, Minnesota, the buses were taken off the road because their brakes couldn’t handle the city’s hills. The publicly known failings of Proterra’s buses have not deterred key members of the Biden administration, including the president himself, from touting the company on multiple occasions. A Foothill Transit spokeswoman said the “thermal event” noted in the report referred to a January 2020 incident when a Proterra bus caught fire while connected to a charger. “The agency’s report complains that parts for the buses it purchased are ‘difficult to obtain’ and that expired warranties force the transit agency to pay tens of thousands of dollars for ‘advanced technology parts,'” the Beacon article said. Meanwhile, Breitbart News reported in May watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust said there were still unanswered questions following Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm’s sale of her massive holdings in Proterra. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 24, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, RichieRich216 said: GOOOOO GREEN An electric bus made by Proterra went up in flames while charging in a California city that is reportedly thinking about removing the electric buses from the road. The Washington Free Beacon reportedFriday: The Foothill Transit agency, which serves the valleys surrounding Los Angeles, will decide on Friday whether costly Proterra buses purchased in the last decade are still operable. Problems cited by the agency include not only the bus that caught fire in what’s described as a “thermal event,” but also buses that melt in the California heat and have transmission failures. Roland Cordero, the agency’s director of maintenance and vehicle technology, says the problems with the buses are exacerbated by Proterra’s inability to help with repairs. “With the number of failures we are experiencing and the inability of Proterra to provide parts, these [Battery Electric Buses] BEBs will only get worse as we continue to operate them whenever the BEBs are available for service,” Cordero wrote prior to Friday’s executive board meeting. According to the Proterra website, its vehicles have “proven themselves through more than 20 million miles of service in communities across North America, operating at a lower overall cost than a 35- or 40-foot diesel, hybrid, or CNG transit vehicle.” However, the electric bus company that has been praised by President Joe Biden’s administration watched its stock drop over the past month due to reports of problems with its product, the Beacon article continued: In Philadelphia, mechanical failures and weak battery performance forced city officials to shelve buses received as recently as 2019. In Duluth, Minnesota, the buses were taken off the road because their brakes couldn’t handle the city’s hills. The publicly known failings of Proterra’s buses have not deterred key members of the Biden administration, including the president himself, from touting the company on multiple occasions. A Foothill Transit spokeswoman said the “thermal event” noted in the report referred to a January 2020 incident when a Proterra bus caught fire while connected to a charger. “The agency’s report complains that parts for the buses it purchased are ‘difficult to obtain’ and that expired warranties force the transit agency to pay tens of thousands of dollars for ‘advanced technology parts,'” the Beacon article said. Meanwhile, Breitbart News reported in May watchdog group Protect the Public’s Trust said there were still unanswered questions following Secretary of Energy Jennifer Granholm’s sale of her massive holdings in Proterra. Only applies to their very first set of electric busses that were "first in the industry demonstration or deployments, and those vehicles reflected the state of the practice in technology at the time." http://foothilltransit.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/07-23-2021-Agenda-Packet-Executive-Board-Meeting.pdf Check out the new electric double deckers they are getting this year: We’re Bringing All-Electric Double Deck Buses To The SGV! February 1, 2021 (WEST COVINA, CA) — Foothill Transit, the American public transportation leader in electric bus deployment, has purchased two electric versions of the Alexander Dennis Inc. (ADI) double deck bus. The twin Enviro500EVs made their way from the UK and will debut in the Foothill Transit’s Southern California fleet this year. Edited July 24, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 25, 2021 (edited) Wireless EV Charging Roads To Begin Testing Soon In Indiana, USBy using magnetised concrete slabs, roads would be able to charge compatible battery-powered electric vehicles driving over it Indiana Department of Transportation (INDOT) and Purdue University, have announced that they are planning to start the development of contact-less wireless-charging concrete pavement highway segment. This project is a part of the ASPIRE (Advancing Sustainability through Power Infrastructure for Road Electrification) initiative, and the tech is being developed in association with German startup Magment.Read more at: https://gaadiwaadi.com/wireless-ev-charging-roads-to-begin-testing-soon-in-indiana-us/ Edited July 25, 2021 by Jay McKinsey Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 25, 2021 10 hours ago, notsonice said: Buy a coal mine and put your money where your mouth is.....Enjoy bankruptcy....It is your right Hey, should Jay sell his ICE BMW and buy an EV? Let's hear your answer to that one, smarty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Congratulations, after all that hard googling you found something. However what is really going on is that Elon decided to redesign and expand the factory and it is all these new changes that are causing the delay. "In June, Tesla submitted new documents to the State Office for the Environment. Some of the documents related to the construction of a battery cell manufacturing site on Giga Berlin’s grounds. The documents also revealed that Tesla plans to expand the press shop by adding two more press lines. The company also plans to reduce the body shop into one production line. Tesla’s revision to Giga Berlin’s plans will need to go through another set of rounds in the approval process. Until July 17, the modifications are accessible to the public, who can raise objections to the changes until August 16. Then, the LfU decides whether the objections need further discussion, which may lengthen the approval process even more. " https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-final-approval-delay-minister/ The factory won't even be complete before the end of the year. All that fluff about EVs will do nothing to reduce CO2, if you still think that CO2 is a problem. CO2 is certainly not a problem. I guess if you thought that CO2 was an issue, you would not be still driving an internal combustion engine vehicle, as I do. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 25, 2021 8 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Only applies to their very first set of electric busses that were "first in the industry demonstration or deployments, and those vehicles reflected the state of the practice in technology at the time." http://foothilltransit.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/07-23-2021-Agenda-Packet-Executive-Board-Meeting.pdf Check out the new electric double deckers they are getting this year: We’re Bringing All-Electric Double Deck Buses To The SGV! February 1, 2021 (WEST COVINA, CA) — Foothill Transit, the American public transportation leader in electric bus deployment, has purchased two electric versions of the Alexander Dennis Inc. (ADI) double deck bus. The twin Enviro500EVs made their way from the UK and will debut in the Foothill Transit’s Southern California fleet this year. Have the first group been recalled yet? If not, why not? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 25, 2021 9 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: Congratulations, after all that hard googling you found something. However what is really going on is that Elon decided to redesign and expand the factory and it is all these new changes that are causing the delay. "In June, Tesla submitted new documents to the State Office for the Environment. Some of the documents related to the construction of a battery cell manufacturing site on Giga Berlin’s grounds. The documents also revealed that Tesla plans to expand the press shop by adding two more press lines. The company also plans to reduce the body shop into one production line. Tesla’s revision to Giga Berlin’s plans will need to go through another set of rounds in the approval process. Until July 17, the modifications are accessible to the public, who can raise objections to the changes until August 16. Then, the LfU decides whether the objections need further discussion, which may lengthen the approval process even more. " https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-final-approval-delay-minister/ The factory won't even be complete before the end of the year. Read what it says. "thanks to fierce environmental resistance, red tape and planning tweaks it is completely unclear when the first vehicles will roll off the production line of the electric carmaker's first European factory." Those fierce environmental resisters can really be a pain to industry, right Jay? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ecocharger + 1,474 DL July 25, 2021 11 hours ago, Jay McKinsey said: HaHaHaHaHa... Famous last words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jay McKinsey + 1,490 July 25, 2021 26 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Read what it says. "thanks to fierce environmental resistance, red tape and planning tweaks it is completely unclear when the first vehicles will roll off the production line of the electric carmaker's first European factory." Those fierce environmental resisters can really be a pain to industry, right Jay? Oh don't worry, by the time the factory is completed they will be going into production. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,255 DM July 25, 2021 42 minutes ago, Ecocharger said: Hey, should Jay sell his ICE BMW and buy an EV? Let's hear your answer to that one, smarty. ask Jay. How about you buying a coal mine? if they are so great , step up and invest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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