Andrei Moutchkine + 828 December 23, 2021 On 12/13/2021 at 4:53 AM, surrept33 said: Yeah, not to mention how much of Poland the Russian Empire annexed right before the eve of the french revolution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subdivisions_of_the_Polish–Lithuanian_territories_following_the_partitions not to mention the century of domination of Poland by Russia after Napolean's defeat until WWI. I do think Stalin rewrote the borders of Poland in as much of a anti-German move as anything else. Poland got partitioned after attacking Russia first. The Polish volunteered to come with Napoleon in an invasion and started the 1920 war. Too bad Hitler didn't ask for their help. They would've come. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 December 23, 2021 On 12/11/2021 at 1:22 AM, Strangelovesurfing said: "The US has always planned a massive first strike..." This is empirically false. At one point the US had a nuclear monopoly and could have destroyed Moscow in an instant with no chance of retaliation from the USSR. What you and other knee-jerk haters of the USA choose to ignore is if the US was as nefarious and all consumed with world domination as you say why didn't the US just take control of the entire globe after WW2? You think that last sentence preposterous? The previously mentioned nuclear monopoly easily could have resulted with the US dropping nuclear bombs on any population center, capital cities included, anywhere in the world with no chance of retaliation from anyone. In short order you end up with a truly diabolical world empire built on nuclear ash, The United States of Earth. Oh, and if you don't like it, here's a nuke, enjoy the dirt nap. But this didn't happen as the US has never been waiting for it's chance to pounce as you claim. If they did, you'd be speaking english, American English too, not that British crap 🙃. If the Persian nuclear program is peaceful, why are they hiding it? They get full access to civilian nuclear tech through their NPT signing. Russia is glad to build reactors for them so... why the subterfuge unless you're hiding something? As for Kim, the South Korean's are taking the lead these days, as they should. Soon the'll assume wartime control of their military and most likely sign a piece agreement with Kim officially ending the Korean war. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/skorea-sees-peace-declaration-key-restarting-nkorea-talks-2021-10-27/ The US harassed Kim because the S.Korean government wanted it. Now they don't, so the US isn't harassing Kim anymore. You seem to have a backwards impression of how the US alliance structure actually works. NS Archive hosts real documents, obtained under FOI Act, proving how it was. Check out the link. They were really going to genocide all Commies. This would've included all of my family, Is this "knee jerk" enough for you? There was not really a US monopoly. They could''t hoard enough nukes, because the Nagasaki type had a shelf life as little as 48 hours. https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/604623/why-no-one-will-ever-build-another-nagasaki-type-bomb/ The Hiroshima one is even worse. With real explosive yield of under 1%, it was merely a "dirty bomb" by today's standards. Yet, you think that Iran is stupid enough to build one? There is no state actor misinformed enough to build a uranium-based nuke today. They don't work. Truman did bluff an ultimatum, getting USSR to leave Iran within 24 hours.(Or be nuked. A treat he really had no capability to fulfill) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD December 23, 2021 15 hours ago, Andrei Moutchkine said: NS Archive hosts real documents, obtained under FOI Act, proving how it was. Check out the link. They were really going to genocide all Commies. This would've included all of my family, Is this "knee jerk" enough for you? All competent militaries make plans for every conceivable contingency. Did the US make plans for full nuclear warfare, yes. Did the USSR also make plans for full nuclear warfare, yes. This is completely different than hatching dark nefarious plots of mass murder and genocide. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrei Moutchkine + 828 December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Strangelovesurfing said: All competent militaries make plans for every conceivable contingency. Did the US make plans for full nuclear warfare, yes. Did the USSR also make plans for full nuclear warfare, yes. This is completely different than hatching dark nefarious plots of mass murder and genocide. Nothing remotely as blood-thirsty has been found for USSR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Days_to_the_River_Rhine is about as bad as it got Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff December 26, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 8:18 AM, Strangelovesurfing said: One hand you say America mind your own business and stop messing around with others. Next breath you denigrate the US for not doing "jack" about Russians being starved by their own government. This is Anti-Americanism writ large, "your a bunch of a-holes for what you did" followed by "your a bunch of a-holes for not doing jack". 🤦♂️🤷♂️ People are not born 'anti'. They learn this. Americans are like Jews: they cannot accept honest comments, they twist and deny history, and refuse to accept any learned view contrary to their agendas. Anti-Amurcunism? yup. Amercuns pillaged and plundered Afghanistan for 20 years, and left the Afghans destitute. 23 million Afghans face starvation this winter. Now, in the Afghan hour of greatest need, the Amercuns will not release the $ billions stolen from the Afghans. Not $1 is given in aid. Whom you do not kill by bombs, you kill by deprivation. You wonder why the world hates Amercuns? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff December 27, 2021 On 12/6/2021 at 6:55 AM, ronwagn said: Chinese warfare is multifaceted as we are finally learning. They are not content with FAIR TRADE, which I support, they focus on controlling companies that have plants in their country, using slave labor, oppressing their minority groups including religions, and even copying brand name products and selling them worldwide! https://www.theepochtimes.com/over-13000-fake-designer-products-from-china-seized-holiday-shoppers-told-to-beware_4138427.html There you have it folks. Definitive proof China intends to take over the world, by making handbags. ! Run for your lives, to the caves, for the sky is falling !!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD December 27, 2021 (edited) 19 hours ago, frankfurter said: 23 million Afghans face starvation this winter. Now, in the Afghan hour of greatest need, the Amercuns will not release the $ billions stolen from the Afghans. Not $1 is given in aid. Whom you do not kill by bombs, you kill by deprivation. You wonder why the world hates Amercuns? Clueless as usual Franky. The “stolen” funds you speak of are donated funds that were donated by mainly western countries to the now defunct democracy elected government of Afghanistan. They weren’t donated to the Taliban so the Taliban has no claim on the ‘stolen’ funds you write about. Not $1 in aid? See above paragraph. Not $1 from your CCP thats for sure. If you’re so concerned then your CCP should donate whatever is necessary to assist your neighborly country of Afghanistan. The CCP wanted the US out, talked a big game about China’s new dawn in Afghanistan, promised development assistance like nobody’s ever seen. Where America screwed up China was going to swoop on in and presto, an Afghan eden. Once again we end up with CCP bluster followed by crickets, I’m not surprised. Edited December 27, 2021 by Strangelovesurfing Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st December 27, 2021 On 12/23/2021 at 12:25 AM, Andrei Moutchkine said: NS Archive hosts real documents, obtained under FOI Act, proving how it was. Check out the link. They were really going to genocide all Commies. This would've included all of my family, Is this "knee jerk" enough for you? There was not really a US monopoly. They could''t hoard enough nukes, because the Nagasaki type had a shelf life as little as 48 hours. https://www.armscontrolwonk.com/archive/604623/why-no-one-will-ever-build-another-nagasaki-type-bomb/ The Hiroshima one is even worse. With real explosive yield of under 1%, it was merely a "dirty bomb" by today's standards. Yet, you think that Iran is stupid enough to build one? There is no state actor misinformed enough to build a uranium-based nuke today. They don't work. Truman did bluff an ultimatum, getting USSR to leave Iran within 24 hours.(Or be nuked. A treat he really had no capability to fulfill) let's not forget the "truman doctrine" (aka containment) was by in large US policy for the entire cold war. the "Long Telegram" was probably the most influential document that illustrated what was by in large the dominant American thought at the time: https://www.trumanlibraryinstitute.org/this-day-in-history-2/ At the start of the Cold War, lets say during the Truman administration, there was three schools of thought for what American foreign policy should be: 1. go back to isolationism - favored by some Republicans but mostly discredited because a lot of people thought WW2 started because of this. 2. containment - a pragmatic compromise between the truman administration and republican congress who were otherwise at odds w/ each other 3. hawkish against communist gains - basically operationalizing "operation unthinkable" - this was basically a non-starter because of US politics if nothing else Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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