Will Variants and Ill-Health Continue to Plague Economic Outlooks?

[TailingsPond + 460]

Are the funeral home people medical professionals who know the deceased vaccination status??

Tom give your solvent damaged head a shake or five.  

Listen to the gravediggers for health advice next?  Obviously they know what is healthy being the profiteers of death.

[TailingsPond + 460]

On 3/1/2022 at 10:36 PM, ronwagn said:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths

FYI there has been NO improvement in COVID DEATHS PER DAY since the beginning of the pandemic. Check the death graph for yourself. Average the peaks and valleys.

Can anyone refute this? Why is the media blind to this fact? How can our federal government lie to us about all of this? Why have they?

Everyone refutes that nonsense. 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

 

Edited March 4, 2022 by TailingsPond

[TailingsPond + 460]

You hate big Pharma and think they want you dead? 

Pharmaceutical companies make way more money off the living!  The last thing they want to do is lose a customer!

Tom wants to listen to those who make money when people die instead of those who profit off the living - real logical.

Edited March 10, 2022 by TailingsPond

[TailingsPond + 460]

2 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

The embalmers at Funeral Homes continue to see weird issues never before seen with people who have died.  It is only in the deaths of those who have been vaccinated.

Epic stupid

Edited March 4, 2022 by TailingsPond

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,129]

On 3/1/2022 at 9:36 PM, ronwagn said:

https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#trends_dailydeaths

FYI there has been NO improvement in COVID DEATHS PER DAY since the beginning of the pandemic. Check the death graph for yourself. Average the peaks and valleys.

Can anyone refute this? Why is the media blind to this fact? How can our federal government lie to us about all of this? Why have they?

Because those who were dying anyways died with Covid and got counted is why. 

You will note they are not talking about excess deaths for which there is info out there and plenty of it.  You have to go to the state and sometimes even county records to get it and links for that kind of stuff does not really work as the government sites use embedded programs to show you the data.  I have posted such links before and absolutely no one went to them and followed instructions on how to get the numbers.   It is telling that the CDC is still using "preliminary" numbers for dead for 2020, even though it is 2022...   CDC accidentally released total deaths for 2020 in June of 2021, but the report quickly got removed and since it was a PDF, the way back machine that google runs does not have it.  At the time there appeared to be about 120,000-->150,000 excess deaths over the previous year when one removed increase in population, increase in suicides, increase in drug overdoses, increase in traffic deaths, vanished flu/pneumonia deaths, vanished lower respitory deaths which all magically became COVID deaths...    Media of course was saying 400,000 Covid Deaths in 2020. 

So, no straight forward.

Yes, there appears to be plenty of excess deaths... but from what is the problem?   Suicides up ~50%.  Drug overdoses up over 100% which makes sense as the jab screws everyone's blood flow up  There is a 1000% increase in number of prime in health athletes keeling over dead.  So, if prime in shape people are keeling over dead ... what about the average weekend warrior?  Or those who are a bit dehydrated(most old people) and stand up too quickly, passing out smashing their head sending them to the ER, disabling them, breaking hips, etc?  Do these people count?

[ronwagn + 6,290]

4 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Because those who were dying anyways died with Covid and got counted is why. 

You will note they are not talking about excess deaths for which there is info out there and plenty of it.  You have to go to the state and sometimes even county records to get it and links for that kind of stuff does not really work as the government sites use embedded programs to show you the data.  I have posted such links before and absolutely no one went to them and followed instructions on how to get the numbers.   It is telling that the CDC is still using "preliminary" numbers for dead for 2020, even though it is 2022...   CDC accidentally released total deaths for 2020 in June of 2021, but the report quickly got removed and since it was a PDF, the way back machine that google runs does not have it.  At the time there appeared to be about 120,000-->150,000 excess deaths over the previous year when one removed increase in population, increase in suicides, increase in drug overdoses, increase in traffic deaths, vanished flu/pneumonia deaths, vanished lower respitory deaths which all magically became COVID deaths...    Media of course was saying 400,000 Covid Deaths in 2020. 

So, no straight forward.

Yes, there appears to be plenty of excess deaths... but from what is the problem?   Suicides up ~50%.  Drug overdoses up over 100% which makes sense as the jab screws everyone's blood flow up  There is a 1000% increase in number of prime in health athletes keeling over dead.  So, if prime in shape people are keeling over dead ... what about the average weekend warrior?  Or those who are a bit dehydrated(most old people) and stand up too quickly, passing out smashing their head sending them to the ER, disabling them, breaking hips, etc?  Do these people count?

My main issue is that the mainstream media perpetuates all the lies that are so obvious to anyone who is fair minded and actually looks at all the facts. They are now claiming that everything is getting better when there is no proof of that. Also IMHO their stupid moves have prevented very good treatments from being used while touting the efficacy of their mandates. Masks, "vaccinations", isolating etc. They are guilty of largely destroying our economy, the supply lines, freedoms, etc. All to increase their authoritarian goals. They may have ended up destroying their own credibility among the majority of voters. People need to use their own brains to figure out what is good for their own family, based on common sense and study. That is how real science works and nobody has a right to claim a consensus that rules other's decisions. 

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

On 3/4/2022 at 9:53 AM, Rob Plant said:

What "weird issues" and who cares Tom? they are already dead!

Oh Rob!  I guess you missed it about the Life Insurance companies around the globe in 2021 who have been losing money since the vaccines rolled out and death rates are sky high, while Funeral Homes in 2021 have had their best year ever, beating the S&P 500.  The death count from the Covid vaccines is epic.  And even worse is that vaccinated people are starting to have all kinds of other ailments afflict them...cancer rates are skyrocketing.

Edited March 6, 2022 by Tom Nolan

[TailingsPond + 460]

35 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

Oh Rob!  I guess you missed it about the Life Insurance companies around the globe in 2021 who have been losing money since the vaccines rolled out and death rates are sky high, while Funeral Homes in 2021 have had their best year ever, beating the S&P 500.  The death count from the Covid vaccines is epic.  And even worse is that vaccinated people are starting to have all kinds of other ailments afflict them...cancer rates are skyrocketing.

That is death from covid... not the vaccines.

[TailingsPond + 460]

Next Tom will tell us how firetrucks cause house fires  - after all they are always around during fires.  Think of all the people who die from firetrucks!

Big Fire truck conspiracy

Edited March 6, 2022 by TailingsPond

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

11 hours ago, TailingsPond said:

That is death from covid... not the vaccines.

Nope.  It is not deaths from Covid.  The autopsies and also the embalmers definitively show that it is death by vaccine.  What is more worrying is that many people won't be dying immediately...just a slow death resulting from a compromised immune system.

[TailingsPond + 460]

5 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

the embalmers definitively show that it is death by vaccine. 

LOL

They are specialists of disposing of the dead and you think they are heath experts.

You embalmed your brain while still alive.

Edited March 6, 2022 by TailingsPond

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25 minutes ago, TailingsPond said:

LOL

They are specialists of disposing of the dead and you think they are heath experts.

You embalmed your brain while still alive.

damn zombies

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

https://healthimpactnews.com/2022/65615-deaths-now-reported-in-europe-and-the-usa-following-covid-19-vaccines-corporate-media-refuses-to-publish-this-data/

65,615 Deaths Now Reported in Europe and the USA Following COVID-19 Vaccines – Corporate Media Refuses to Publish this Data

 

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1498367664925732866/photo/1

[Rob Plant + 2,600]

On 3/6/2022 at 12:39 AM, Tom Nolan said:

Oh Rob!  I guess you missed it about the Life Insurance companies around the globe in 2021 who have been losing money since the vaccines rolled out and death rates are sky high, while Funeral Homes in 2021 have had their best year ever, beating the S&P 500.  The death count from the Covid vaccines is epic.  And even worse is that vaccinated people are starting to have all kinds of other ailments afflict them...cancer rates are skyrocketing.

You still havent said what these "weird issues" are??

Yes I must have "missed it" about insurance companies losing money as not 1 have gone bust during the pandemic that I know to in the UK.

If death rates are higher due to the vaccines liek you say, then I would expect people with the same view as you would go out and get more life insurance not less.

[Rob Plant + 2,600]

COVID-19: New study could lead to life-saving treatment for severe cases

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-new-study-could-lead-to-life-saving-treatment-for-severe-cases-12560046

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

6 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

On 3/5/2022 at 6:39 PM, Tom Nolan said:

Oh Rob!  I guess you missed it about the Life Insurance companies around the globe in 2021 who have been losing money since the vaccines rolled out and death rates are sky high, while Funeral Homes in 2021 have had their best year ever, beating the S&P 500.  The death count from the Covid vaccines is epic.  And even worse is that vaccinated people are starting to have all kinds of other ailments afflict them...cancer rates are skyrocketing.

You still havent said what these "weird issues" are??

Yes I must have "missed it" about insurance companies losing money as not 1 have gone bust during the pandemic that I know to in the UK.

If death rates are higher due to the vaccines liek you say, then I would expect people with the same view as you would go out and get more life insurance not less.

Rob, You sure go to a lot of mainstream news websites for information that you consider hopeful or 'valid' (e.g. skynews).  You will always get the narrative being pushed by those with powerful money and global agenda influence at mainstream news.  Fox is also mainstream news.  Mainstream news will always omit important and balanced information.

Anyways, here are the LINKS to WEIRD ISSUES SEEN IN FUNERAL HOMES...

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/?page=12#comment-174883

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/page/11/#comment-174484

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/page/11/#comment-173842

Edward Dowd, a well respected market analyst, has been tracking the financials of group life insurance companies. These are policies which companies offer their employees. Thus, you see working age people as the age group in the graphs.

Ed Dowd has also been tracking the financial reports for Funeral Homes.
The year 2021, not 2020, was a record year for the Funeral Home business. 2021 was the year vaccines rolled out.

Funeral Home embalmers have been interviewed by Steve Kirsch and others. The stories they describe, plus photos, are alarming. The embalmers have never before seen the type of things which they are seeing now in the dead bodies of vaccinated people. The blood is a sticky glob often with very stiff, sticky white fibrous material.

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

2 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

Rob, You sure go to a lot of mainstream news websites for information that you consider hopeful or 'valid' (e.g. skynews).  You will always get the narrative being pushed by those with powerful money and global agenda influence at mainstream news.  Fox is also mainstream news.  Mainstream news will always omit important and balanced information.

Anyways, here are the LINKS to WEIRD ISSUES SEEN IN FUNERAL HOMES...

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/?page=12#comment-174883

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/page/11/#comment-174484

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/25014-will-variants-and-ill-health-continue-to-plague-economic-outlooks/page/11/#comment-173842

Edward Dowd, a well respected market analyst, has been tracking the financials of group life insurance companies. These are policies which companies offer their employees. Thus, you see working age people as the age group in the graphs.

 

Ed Dowd has also been tracking the financial reports for Funeral Homes.
The year 2021, not 2020, was a record year for the Funeral Home business. 2021 was the year vaccines rolled out.

 

Funeral Home embalmers have been interviewed by Steve Kirsch and others. The stories they describe, plus photos, are alarming. The embalmers have never before seen the type of things which they are seeing now in the dead bodies of vaccinated people. The blood is a sticky glob often with very stiff, sticky white fibrous material.

 

The first link does not work well.  Here is a copy...

Funeral Homes are noticing very high death counts as a result of vaccines. 

Incredibly weird clots!

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/exclusive-embalmer-reveals-93-of

[VIDEO interviews are also on Steve's Substack.]

The big news is that she found the unusual clots in 93% of the last 30 people who she embalmed. This is significant because she isn’t selective about who she embalms.

Not all embalmers will see a 93% clot rate. Richard Hirschman only sees these clots in 65% of his cases.

Either way, we have identified what is the #1 cause of death in America today; a killer that is much bigger than COVID.

This is a massive health issue since it is killing a huge number of people. Her embalmer friends have noticed it as well and have never seen it before in their careers.

The clots are only associated with people who have been vaccinated. They were only observed after the vaccines rolled out.

The clots are life threatening and are almost certainly the root cause of death in all of these cases.

I’ve written 4 Substack articles on embalmers and clots that started appearing after the vaccines rolled out:

1. News today: Embalmers confirming most everyone are noticing these telltale clots since Jan 2021 (posted on a private chat with 14,000 embalmers) (Feb 11)

2. Over half the deaths seen by this funeral director were likely caused by the COVID vaccines 65% of cases seen by Richard Hirschman have these clots (Feb 7).

3. Embalmer reveals 93% of cases died from the vaccine. Anna Foster reveals that 93% of the cases she has seen recently have the telltale clots (Feb 11).

4. Embalmers find veins and arteries… A link to the Jane Ruby interview (Jan 27)

[Rob Plant + 2,600]

I certainly think clotting is an issue that has been largely hushed up or has attempted to have been debunked by the pro vaccine lobby.

Almost every week a football (soccer) game is halted as someone in the crowd has become seriously ill. This used to be extremely rare but as I say is happenning an awful lot, coupled with very fit players collapsing with heart conditions far more frequently.

I made no comment with my post as I was hoping for some critique from others on what they thought of it, I'm not as gullible as you may think.

Well I am after a night on the town with the lads lol.

[Gerry Maddoux + 3,627]

I haven't posted on this forum for months, because it had gotten too rough and wooly for me, and also because lots of invalid information was being disseminated. I have tuned in from time to time. 

Mr. Tom Nolan, you need to think long and hard if you want to continue saying this stuff. By now, hundreds of millions of people all over the world have been vaccinated against Covid-19. Take any medical condition category--MS, ALS, diabetes, heart disease, tumors of all varieties, drug addicts, alcoholics--and within that category will be hundreds of thousands of vaccinated people. I do believe that if the side effects were as generalized and awful as you're advertising, we'd all know about them. And when you look at deaths now, most of them have not been vaccinated--and that is a fact. I'll be the first to say that the health agencies worldwide have performed abysmally, but that doesn't give us license to follow suit.

I think if you don't want the vaccine, that is your right. But to serve as a knowing, willing part of the propaganda machine is quite a different matter. If you were a medical professional and had specific information that you're claiming, it would be your duty to report it in a reliable medical journal. If you're just parroting unverifiable sources, then you're possibly contributing to deaths. i don't think you want that on your conscience.  

I waited for Selva to silence you, but that didn't happen. As a retired physician, I finally felt that I had to comment. After this, say whatever you want about me, because I will go away and will never come back to this godawful forum in my lifetime. You folks might have noticed: a lot of people just quit posting here, and these were largely people who had something informative to say. In my view, this site has turned into everything trashy and harmful that we knew the internet was capable of. It is now part of a "dark web" of venom, false information, propaganda, and all the worst elements of a man's (or woman's) personality, spewing toxicity on a place known to be free of recrimination or societal rebuke. 

Adios. 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Gerry Maddoux
Got the name wrong. Sorry, Mr. Plant.

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,537]

48 minutes ago, Gerry Maddoux said:

I haven't posted on this forum for months, because it had gotten too rough and wooly for me, and also because lots of invalid information was being disseminated. I have tuned in from time to time. 

Mr. Plant, you need to think long and hard if you want to continue saying this stuff. By now, hundreds of millions of people all over the world have been vaccinated against Covid-19. Take any medical condition category--MS, ALS, diabetes, heart disease, tumors of all varieties, drug addicts, alcoholics--and within that category will be hundreds of thousands of vaccinated people. I do believe that if the side effects were as generalized and awful as you're advertising, we'd all know about them. And when you look at deaths now, most of them have not been vaccinated--and that is a fact. I'll be the first to say that the health agencies worldwide have performed abysmally, but that doesn't give us license to follow suit.

I think if you don't want the vaccine, that is your right. But to serve as a knowing, willing part of the propaganda machine is quite a different matter. If you were a medical professional and had specific information that you're claiming, it would be your duty to report it in a reliable medical journal. If you're just parroting unverifiable sources, then you're possibly contributing to deaths. i don't think you want that on your conscience.  

I waited for Selva to silence you, but that didn't happen. As a retired physician, I finally felt that I had to comment. After this, say whatever you want about me, because I will go away and will never come back to this godawful forum in my lifetime. You folks might have noticed: a lot of people just quit posting here, and these were largely people who had something informative to say. In my view, this site has turned into everything trashy and harmful that we knew the internet was capable of. It is now part of a "dark web" of venom, false information, propaganda, and all the worst elements of a man's (or woman's) personality, spewing toxicity on a place known to be free of recrimination or societal rebuke. 

Adios. 

Mr Maddoux it is quite refreshing to see you once again posting. From the very start of covid your insights still stand. 

Yes it is a I'll tempered I'll mannered world at times, the human condition is rather extraordinary as I am quite sure you are well aware of.

You have brought both light and reason to many conversations make no mistakes about such matters. Bright light in a dark world only illuminates the few who cast dark shadows.

Yourself Mr van Eck and Mr. Coffee Guys brought much light and your combined lack of presence is a Black hole.

Aside from that once again it is good to see you post once again, to this day I cannot nor will not forget the yellow submarine. A respite for the temporary maddeness this world is now enduring ....absolutely brilliant..and of course a slightly chilled glass of Grigio.

 

Edited March 8, 2022 by Eyes Wide Open

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

On 3/8/2022 at 11:09 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

And when you look at deaths now, most of them have not been vaccinated--and that is a fact.

No.  That is not a fact.  Absolutely not a fact for the year 2021.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Tom Nolan

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

On 3/8/2022 at 11:09 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

it would be your duty to report it in a reliable medical journal.

It is very evident that you do not realize how corrupt and compromised the medical journal system is.  You certainly are not getting the full story...not at all.

[Tom Nolan + 2,441]

On 3/8/2022 at 11:09 AM, Gerry Maddoux said:

Mr. Tom Nolan, you need to think long and hard if you want to continue saying this stuff

Look at the data.  You are not LOOKING.  You certainly will not see what you do not look at.

[Gerry Maddoux + 3,627]

Okay, I checked back in to see if you'd gotten the point. Obviously, you haven't. You don't generally sound like a malicious person. I suspect you really and truly believe what you're saying. The system is not perfect, even with a pretty well-run medical journal system, but it's hard to get papers accepted by respected medical journals--I've spent enough hours toiling on them to know. Occasionally a bad paper gets in, or a fraudulent paper, but not on a consistent basis. 

Here are some numbers. In a recent study of 10,236 patients with documented Covid severe enough to be hospitalized, 97.8% were unvaccinated. 

And here's some polite discussion about the safety and efficacy of the vaccines. They're not what you are touting. 

There is a marked divergence of the vaccines with regard to dangerous side effects. J&J (a very good pharmaceutical house) used a conventional virus-based vaccine; nothing mRNA about it. In individuals receiving the J&J vaccine, there have been 54 cases of TTS (thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome)--blood clots in association with a drop in platelet count. These were mostly female and usually in the age 30-50 range. Of these, 36 required hospitalization in the ICU. I do not know how many died. Again, this was using NOT the new mRNA technology, but the old virus-based methodology that has been employed since polio. 

Moderna and Pfizer use the new nRNA technology. These vaccines do not cause the TTS, as far as I am aware. I have known two healthy people who were unvaccinated and got the same TTS disorder as a complication of Covid-19 infection, so it's something about getting the viral protein in the bloodstream that causes it.  

Anecdotally, I have had eight friends die of Covid-19. Not a single one was vaccinated. Of my vaccinated friends, I have not had anyone who had to enter the hospital with Covid. Not one!

This is the best I can do. I really believe in individual freedom and liberty. My own sister is not vaccinated. I haven't said a word to her. i think it is fine if you don't wish to be vaccinated.

My concern is that anyone who is as vociferous as you is capable of influencing others. I can assure you that I don't own shares in a vaccine company and I could care less about your vaccination status. I doubt, however, that you want to find yourself at my age (78), regretting the fact that you talked some sentient being into foregoing a vaccine because you were so hell-bent for leather in making a point and winning an argument. Words have consequences. Think about it. I have a pretty good collection of friends and I don't even know anyone--some in pretty bad shape with other problems--who didn't sail through a Moderna or Pfizer vaccine. Not only that but a few got Covid, omicron variety, after vaccination and barely noticed it. 

I'm off. But you decide how much you want to win this one-way battle. If you convince one cognitively-challenged person, or one needle-shy person looking for an excuse, and he or she fails to get vaccinated and then dies, then that's on you, my friend. Just declare yourself a smart person for making up your own mind and saving yourself from a multitude of woes and stop trying to convince a world of gullible people about something you don't really understand. Get a new hobby. Talk about oil and gas. Or wind and sun. Trust me, you don't want blood on your hands.