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Pollsters Humiliated As 2 Pro-Putin Parties Win Avalanche Victories In European Elections

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Monday, Apr 04, 2022 - 12:00 AM

In a one-two knockout punch for pro-Russia governments in Europe, on Sunday the government of Serbia's pro-Russia president Aleksandar Vučić was headed for an avalanche victory in the country's presidential election with nearly 60% of the vote, a big improvement to this 2017 election result...

.... while Hungary's Pro-Russia prime minister, Viktor Orban, was on track to clinch a fourth consecutive term, leveraging a message against being dragged into the war in neighboring Ukraine, to reassert himself as the European Union’s longest-serving premier.

With roughly half of the vote counted, Orban’s Fidesz party led United for Hungary, a six-member opposition alliance, 57% to 32% in the party list contest, according to the National Election Office, with 63% of the votes counted. That would be sufficient for Fidesz to keep its two-thirds parliamentary majority.

Despite opinion polls forecasting a tighter race, Orban's Fidesz party won comfortably across much of the country. Opposition leader Peter Marki-Zay even failed to win in his own district, where he had served as mayor. The far-right extremist Mi Hazank party won 6.3%, and was set to enter parliament, further diluting the power of the anti-Orban alliance.

"We have such a victory it can be seen from the moon, but it's sure that it can be seen from Brussels," Orban said in his speech on Sunday night, making light of his government's long-running tensions with EU leaders.

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5 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

Tom I think you have this arse about face!

Its the "other nations" that are now are unable to be friends with a despot in charge of Russia hell bent on his personal war (sorry "military action")

The guy is an evil bastard and theres no doubting that now

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5 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/latest-humiliation-pollsters-hungarys-pro-putin-pm-orban-wins-avalanche-re-election

Pollsters Humiliated As 2 Pro-Putin Parties Win Avalanche Victories In European Elections

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by Tyler Durden
Monday, Apr 04, 2022 - 12:00 AM

In a one-two knockout punch for pro-Russia governments in Europe, on Sunday the government of Serbia's pro-Russia president Aleksandar Vučić was headed for an avalanche victory in the country's presidential election with nearly 60% of the vote, a big improvement to this 2017 election result...

.... while Hungary's Pro-Russia prime minister, Viktor Orban, was on track to clinch a fourth consecutive term, leveraging a message against being dragged into the war in neighboring Ukraine, to reassert himself as the European Union’s longest-serving premier.

With roughly half of the vote counted, Orban’s Fidesz party led United for Hungary, a six-member opposition alliance, 57% to 32% in the party list contest, according to the National Election Office, with 63% of the votes counted. That would be sufficient for Fidesz to keep its two-thirds parliamentary majority.

Despite opinion polls forecasting a tighter race, Orban's Fidesz party won comfortably across much of the country. Opposition leader Peter Marki-Zay even failed to win in his own district, where he had served as mayor. The far-right extremist Mi Hazank party won 6.3%, and was set to enter parliament, further diluting the power of the anti-Orban alliance.

"We have such a victory it can be seen from the moon, but it's sure that it can be seen from Brussels," Orban said in his speech on Sunday night, making light of his government's long-running tensions with EU leaders.

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Both of these guys have changed the voting system to rig the elections in their favour!! Surely you knew this before posting?

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/how-do-elections-work-in-hungary/

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5 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Both of these guys have changed the voting system to rig the elections in their favour!! Surely you knew this before posting?

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/how-do-elections-work-in-hungary/

That's a complete nonsens. Both won because of the Ukraine War. In difficult times you vote for stability and not for experiments.

That's the main reason Orban and Vukic won. 

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11 hours ago, Starschy said:

That's a complete nonsens. Both won because of the Ukraine War. In difficult times you vote for stability and not for experiments.

That's the main reason Orban and Vukic won. 

So the electoral reforms Orban brought in that massively favoured him had nothing to do with it?

Yeah right, wheres that sand you have your head buried in?

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5 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

So the electoral reforms Orban brought in that massively favoured him had nothing to do with it?

Yeah right, wheres that sand you have your head buried in?

The electoral System is in place unchanged since 2011. In 2010 the Old System with about 380 Seats was in place  after that Seats and Region where reduced. This favours large and organised Parties. There is nothing special which favours Orban. 

The fact that Hungary is a one chamber Parlament and not a two chamber as US, Switzerland, Germany as example. The primary vote is for people and only in the second priority for Parties.

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On 4/4/2022 at 10:53 AM, Rob Plant said:

Both of these guys have changed the voting system to rig the elections in their favour!! Surely you knew this before posting?

https://www.electoral-reform.org.uk/how-do-elections-work-in-hungary/

That sounds much like the Ukraine rigged overthrow of a democratically elected government by the CIA back in 2013/2014,  And the CIA never left per their recent admission.  

Until people wake up to the fact that trusted government leaders and trusted mainstream news sources do not exist, then we will continue to have hardship for people.  Becasue people and the control of the populace is what all this is about.  There is not a "good guy" nor "bad guy" as a nation leader.  It is rigged game.  Control of the populace is the objective.  and if people believe otherwise, they are being manipulated and controlled by the narrative.

Of all the most violent governments in recent times since World War 2, it has been the US government which has killed many millions of people via direct wars, sanctions and CIA covert operations in the overthrow of other democratically elected nations.

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5 minutes ago, Tom Nolan said:

That sounds much like the Ukraine rigged overthrow of a democratically elected government by the CIA back in 2013/2014,  And the CIA never left per their recent admission.  

Until people wake up to the fact that trusted government leaders and trusted mainstream news sources do not exist, then we will continue to have hardship for people.  Becasue people and the control of the populace is what all this is about.  There is not a "good guy" nor "bad guy" as a nation leader.  It is rigged game.  Control of the populace is the objective.  and if people believe otherwise, they are being manipulated and controlled by the narrative.

Of all the most violent governments in recent times since World War 2, it has been the US government which has killed many millions of people via direct wars, sanctions and CIA covert operations in the overthrow of other democratically elected nations.

That sounds much like the Ukraine rigged overthrow of a democratically elected government by the CIA ?????

 

your tinfoil hat has a hole in it.

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2 minutes ago, notsonice said:

That sounds much like the Ukraine rigged overthrow of a democratically elected government by the CIA ?????

 

your tinfoil hat has a hole in it.

You don't know shit for history.  The documents and film footage and interviews are there to see, but as usual you will never trust anything but what your Authoritarian gods (mainstream media and governments) tell you.  That is why you are headed towards more enslavement as your Masters put your ID and money linked to the Central Bank currency and you follow their social credit system in order to comply.  Enjoy your slavery which is the result of your lack of historical facts.

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12 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

You don't know shit for history.  The documents and film footage and interviews are there to see, but as usual you will never trust anything but what your Authoritarian gods (mainstream media and governments) tell you.  That is why you are headed towards more enslavement as your Masters put your ID and money linked to the Central Bank currency and you follow their social credit system in order to comply.  Enjoy your slavery which is the result of your lack of historical facts.

all you do is babble BS. 

Your posts are nothing but Tinfoil hat territory.........

more enslavement as your Masters????? Your tinfoil hat has a hole in it and your brain is fried.........

Enjoy your slavery????what are  you babbling about now????? You get booted out of your trailer again for not paying rent????? 

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11 hours ago, Tom Nolan said:

That sounds much like the Ukraine rigged overthrow of a democratically elected government by the CIA back in 2013/2014,  And the CIA never left per their recent admission.  

Whataboutism Tom?

We were discussing Hungary not Ukraine.

I have never said I agree with what happened there.

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1 hour ago, Tom Nolan said:
"All the statements of representatives of the Kyiv nationalist regime about the alleged 'missile attack' by Russia on April 8 at the railway station in Kramatorsk are a provocation and absolutely do not correspond to reality," the statement said.
"On April 8, the Russian armed forces did not conduct or plan any artillery fires in the city of Kramatorsk.
"We emphasize that the Tochka-U tactical missiles, the wreckage of which was found near the Kramatorsk railway station and published by eyewitnesses, are used only by the Ukrainian armed forces."

So it appears Moscow is alleging another false flag, similar to the recent back-and-forth between Russia and the West surrounding the events at Bucha.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-condemns-horrific-russian-attack-train-station-which-left-30-dead-kremlin-rejects

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Today is important that Ukraine lost the Port of Mariupol. That means no more access to the Sea of Azov. And that closes a big legal issue as the Sea of Azov was excluded by International law. After today the Sea of Azov will be national territorial waters for Russia alone.

Fighting especially at the Azov Steelworks will go one far a while but Ukraine lost that City for sure.

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On 4/4/2022 at 12:49 PM, Tom Nolan said:

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/latest-humiliation-pollsters-hungarys-pro-putin-pm-orban-wins-avalanche-re-election

Pollsters Humiliated As 2 Pro-Putin Parties Win Avalanche Victories In European Elections

Tyler Durden's Photo
by Tyler Durden
Monday, Apr 04, 2022 - 12:00 AM

In a one-two knockout punch for pro-Russia governments in Europe, on Sunday the government of Serbia's pro-Russia president Aleksandar Vučić was headed for an avalanche victory in the country's presidential election with nearly 60% of the vote, a big improvement to this 2017 election result...

.... while Hungary's Pro-Russia prime minister, Viktor Orban, was on track to clinch a fourth consecutive term, leveraging a message against being dragged into the war in neighboring Ukraine, to reassert himself as the European Union’s longest-serving premier.

With roughly half of the vote counted, Orban’s Fidesz party led United for Hungary, a six-member opposition alliance, 57% to 32% in the party list contest, according to the National Election Office, with 63% of the votes counted. That would be sufficient for Fidesz to keep its two-thirds parliamentary majority.

Despite opinion polls forecasting a tighter race, Orban's Fidesz party won comfortably across much of the country. Opposition leader Peter Marki-Zay even failed to win in his own district, where he had served as mayor. The far-right extremist Mi Hazank party won 6.3%, and was set to enter parliament, further diluting the power of the anti-Orban alliance.

"We have such a victory it can be seen from the moon, but it's sure that it can be seen from Brussels," Orban said in his speech on Sunday night, making light of his government's long-running tensions with EU leaders.

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Orban is more anti-Ukrainian than pro-Russian, as Ukraine has also been harassing the Hungarian minority along with the Russian one.

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The Russian don't stop before they take Odessa and cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea with no Port. The second important City is Dnjepro. We'll view that Mariupol is in Russian hands at 9th May for sure. The Ukraine Army is no longer viewed there besides those Azov Terrorists.

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8 hours ago, Starschy said:

The Russian don't stop before they take Odessa and cut off Ukraine from the Black Sea with no Port. The second important City is Dnjepro. We'll view that Mariupol is in Russian hands at 9th May for sure. The Ukraine Army is no longer viewed there besides those Azov Terrorists.

Russia controls the Black Sea??? Ukraine no longer viewed there???? Latest news for Putins overpaid trolls

The Independent

Ukraine news – live: Russian ship Admiral Makarov ‘on fire’ near Snake Island

Alisha Rahaman Sarkar and Emily Atkinson
 
2 hrs ago

LIVE – Updated at 09:06

Russia’s Admiral Makarov warship has been hit by Ukrainian missiles and burst into flames, according to Ukrainian officials.

The frigate would be Russia’s latest naval loss in a troubled campaign, coming after reports that US intelligence helped Ukraine locate and sink the Russian warship Moskva weeks ago.

It was said to have been sailing close to Snake Island in the Black Sea south of Odesa.

Earlier, Amnesty International said on Friday there was compelling evidence that Russian troops had committed war crimes, including extrajudicial executions of civilians, when they occupied an area outside Ukraine's capital in February and March.

Civilians also suffered abuses such as "reckless shootings and torture" at the hands of Russian forces during their failed onslaught on Kyiv in the early stages of the invasion launched by the Kremlin on 24 February, the rights group claimed in a report.

Amnesty’s senior crisis response adviser Donatella Rovera told a news conference in Kyiv “these are not isolated incidents”.

Key points

  • Russian ship ‘on fire’ near Snake Island after missile strike
  • Compelling evidence of ‘reckless shooting and torture’ in Kyiv - Amnesty
  • US intelligence ‘helped Ukraine locate and sink’ Russian flagship in Black sea
  • EU proposes Russian oil ban to make Putin 'pay high price' for Ukraine
 

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The Admiral Makarov was intact and viewed closed to Sevastopol (Crimea) don't believe that Twitter nonsens

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4 minutes ago, Starschy said:

The Admiral Makarov was intact and viewed closed to Sevastopol (Crimea) don't believe that Twitter nonsens

ha ha ha, Have you seen her afloat and running???? ha ha ha
 
‘Down in flames’: Second Putin warship reportedly crippled in Black Sea
May 09, 2022 - 1:51PM
 

Turkish authorities have released footage that reportedly shows the Admiral Makarov frigate on fire after being hit by Ukrainian missiles.

The Admiral Makarov is one of Russia’s newest and most advanced frigates, and its possible destruction is another major setback for Moscow’s war effort.

The 4,000-ton vessel is one of the biggest warships in Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, which plays a key role in Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine

However, Russia has denied the frigate has been destroyed and the images released to the public has not been independently verified

 
 

 

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On 5/5/2022 at 1:16 PM, Andrei Moutchkine said:

Orban is more anti-Ukrainian than pro-Russian, as Ukraine has also been harassing the Hungarian minority along with the Russian one.

seems like typical treaty of trianon shit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Trianon#/media/File:Trianon_consequences.png

however, there are only 150k hungarians left in ukraine 

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On 4/5/2022 at 4:27 PM, Tom Nolan said:

You don't know shit for history.  The documents and film footage and interviews are there to see, but as usual you will never trust anything but what your Authoritarian gods (mainstream media and governments) tell you.  That is why you are headed towards more enslavement as your Masters put your ID and money linked to the Central Bank currency and you follow their social credit system in order to comply.  Enjoy your slavery which is the result of your lack of historical facts.

We are the least enslaved nation that I know of but we are in danger of all that you say. It is a danger for the whole world. Russia is enslaved, Ukraine is free as is Europe. Russia enslaved much of Europe with its communist regime in the U.S.S.R. America and its allies were what made this possible. 

Your logic is upside down and it is very obvious to any freedom loving person. You would make sense if you prioritized your list and put fascist Russia and China down on your list along with North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. 

America, Europe, and the whole world is in danger of being controlled by a dictatorship composed of the wealthiest elites, government workers, their allies, employees, and stooges. They portray themselves as technocrats, scientists, greens, do gooders etc.  Their funding comes from the elites themselves. Anyone associated with such groups should be fiercely opposed in favor of honest leaders who work with the common person to decide which course to take on issues. 

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On 5/12/2022 at 8:57 AM, Ron Wagner said:

We are the least enslaved nation that I know of but we are in danger of all that you say. It is a danger for the whole world. Russia is enslaved, Ukraine is free as is Europe. Russia enslaved much of Europe with its communist regime in the U.S.S.R. America and its allies were what made this possible. 

Your logic is upside down and it is very obvious to any freedom loving person. You would make sense if you prioritized your list and put fascist Russia and China down on your list along with North Korea, Iran, Cuba, Venezuela, etc. 

America, Europe, and the whole world is in danger of being controlled by a dictatorship composed of the wealthiest elites, government workers, their allies, employees, and stooges. They portray themselves as technocrats, scientists, greens, do gooders etc.  Their funding comes from the elites themselves. Anyone associated with such groups should be fiercely opposed in favor of honest leaders who work with the common person to decide which course to take on issues. 

 

The US Senate blocked a $48 billion aid package to American restaurants and small businesses affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. 

The same US Senate approved the allocation of $40 billion for weapons for Ukraine.

 And you say you are not enslaved?

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4 hours ago, frankfurter said:

 

The US Senate blocked a $48 billion aid package to American restaurants and small businesses affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. 

The same US Senate approved the allocation of $40 billion for weapons for Ukraine.

 And you say you are not enslaved?

It was a fair vote, and I would have voted the same. Business is business and should never have been restrained by the government. They should have fought for their rights and found ways around the oppressive government. Freedom first. 70% of Americans and Europeans support Ukraine and are willing to pay the economic price to help Ukraine destroy the Russian aggressors. 

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18 hours ago, frankfurter said:

 

The US Senate blocked a $48 billion aid package to American restaurants and small businesses affected by the COVID-19 pandemic. 

The same US Senate approved the allocation of $40 billion for weapons for Ukraine.

 And you say you are not enslaved?

US Senate approved the allocation of $40 billion for weapons for Ukraine.....

And the US will support much more aid to Ukraine.............Do you see that NATO is now unified and gaining members???

$40 billion well spent....an old adage is you can pay now or pay later........Wiping out Putins dreams today keeps the World freer tomorrow....

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