Tom Nolan + 2,439 TN December 26, 2022 (edited) When one starts reading the OilPrice posted article, it becomes evident that bias and agenda are at play in the message of the article, although not many people read anymore...and thus the CIA messages probably work better on TV News and movies. RFE/RL are probably happy that at least they got some mileage on this article. I doubt many folks will read and absorb it, because it reads like a White Paper. What’s In Store For Europe In 2023? By RFE/RL staff - Dec 25, 2022, 12:00 PM CST - https://oilprice.com/Geopolitics/International/Whats-In-Store-For-Europe-In-2023.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A person has to use alternative search engines and keywords to dredge up the dirty nitty gritty about RFE/RL Radio Free Europe and Radio Liberty, and some of the crap they participated in. An easy to find 1977 New York Times article pointing out the ruse is here... Worldwide Propaganda Network Built by the C.I.A. https://www.nytimes.com/1977/12/26/archives/worldwide-propaganda-network-built-by-the-cia-a-worldwide-network.html http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg Subject Index Files/C Disk/CIA Reporters New York Times Series 12-25-77/Item 07.pdf But there is this aspect to the New York Times... The CIA, the NY Times, and the Art of the Limited Hangout https://steemit.com/news/@corbettreport/the-cia-the-ny-times-and-the-art-of-the-limited-hangout https://www.corbettreport.com/the-cia-the-ny-times-and-the-art-of-the-limited-hangout/ EXCERPT ...The report then goes on to detail a number of media entities that the CIA owned or controlled during the period in question (primarily the 1950s and '60s), including: Radio stations like Radio Free Europe, Radio Liberty, Radio Free Asia and Free Cuba Radio; Newspapers like The Rome Daily American, The Okinawa Morning Star, The Manila Times, The Bangkok World and The Tokyo Evening News; Magazines and journals like Quest, East Europe and Paris Match. Book publishers like Allied Pacific Printing in India and the Asia Research Centre in Hong Kong. Perhaps more important to the CIA than its control over these media organs, however, were the journalists and editors who were willing to aid the agency in publishing its propaganda. Some were on the CIA payroll directly, others worked on contract. Names dropped in the article range from the familiar—like Tom Braden and William F. Buckley, Jr.—to the long-forgotten. Readers are left with the impression that the agency's propaganda efforts were (emphasis on past tense) more extensive and far-reaching than anyone had imagined to that point.... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And so things go in this world.... Edited December 26, 2022 by Tom Nolan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 631 December 27, 2022 Thanks Tom, I will spread this around to all my sites! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 719 MK February 16 I LOVE the CIA every day against Russian GRU and KGB. People please wake up, your CIA is 100 times better than GRU. I know my country had a lot to do with GRU and KGB. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meredith Poor + 882 MP February 28 As opposed to an army of 100,000 trolls working for the Russian government and 1,000,000 trolls working for the CCP. George F. Kennan was the US Ambassador to the Soviet Union in 1948, and wrote the 'containment' long telegram that was influential in the formation of the Truman Administration Cold War policies. One quote was 'fight words with words and bullets with bullets'. Russian/Soviet Union propaganda efforts began with the Czar in the 19th century, and had a lot of effect on Europe, particularly Germany/Austria, in the 1910's/1920's. Much of this was motivated by the Swedish/German proposals for 'lebensraum', or 'Living Room', the idea that 'superior' races in Western Europe would 'expand eastwards' and (in some cases), simply eliminate the Slavs. Since Russia didn't have the resources to fight Western powers it used disinformation campaigns to sow division, and sponsored partisans in the target countries to resist and sabotage Western government and military operations. The US, via the CIA in some cases and through other organs as well, responded in-kind following the end of WW II. Some of our family friends worked for RFE in the 1950's, and later on they admitted it was CIA funded. I have run into a number of individuals since then that have all but admitted they were on the CIA payroll at one time or another, however most of these people have now died of old age. RFE/RL might have been funded by the CIA, however a lot of their reporting was timely and accurate. A lot of people in the Soviet Union/Russia would listen to RFE broadcasts to get some sense of what they weren't being told by their own media outlets. This included, at various times, the Gorbachevs. There is very little doubt now that the US, China, and Russia are all running massive clandestine services. Actually, China's aren't all that clandestine. In many cases the cost of this is getting to the point where such operations are underfunded and understaffed, partly because (particularly in the West) people have better things to do, but partly because the costs of 'distractions' (the Ukraine war) and the debt and bankruptcy of the CCP are leaving roles unfilled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 631 February 29 The CIA, FBI and entire Deep State work together to influence what really happens in our government. The higher echelons have a lot of power and influence without good oversight. That is how we have gotten into the situation we are in. America is largely controlled by bureaucrats and their leaders. Politicians who are not mainly watching out for the average citizen are allowing bureaucrats to make rules and treat them as laws without congressional approval. Citizens have very little privacy in their own records and affairs which is unconstitutional as are other freedoms which are being diminished or ignored on a daily basis. Our nation's morals and ethical standards have gone downhill for several decades. Our elected representatives need to exert authority over nefarious activities in the CIA, FBI, and all departments of our government. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,035 DM February 29 6 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: The CIA, FBI and entire Deep State work together to influence what really happens in our government. The higher echelons have a lot of power and influence without good oversight. That is how we have gotten into the situation we are in. America is largely controlled by bureaucrats and their leaders. Politicians who are not mainly watching out for the average citizen are allowing bureaucrats to make rules and treat them as laws without congressional approval. Citizens have very little privacy in their own records and affairs which is unconstitutional as are other freedoms which are being diminished or ignored on a daily basis. Our nation's morals and ethical standards have gone downhill for several decades. Our elected representatives need to exert authority over nefarious activities in the CIA, FBI, and all departments of our government. The CIA, FBI and entire Deep State work together to influence what really happens in our government. ?????? check yourself in old man............... Working out of your shed these days?????? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 631 February 29 Your 12 year old mentality again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Wagner + 631 February 29 On 2/16/2024 at 3:01 PM, Marcin2 said: I LOVE the CIA every day against Russian GRU and KGB. People please wake up, your CIA is 100 times better than GRU. I know my country had a lot to do with GRU and KGB. I love that it helped Ukraine free itself from Russia and continues to do so. My main concern is it meddling in domestic American politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 419 GE February 29 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ron Wagner said: Our elected representatives need to exert authority over nefarious activities in the CIA, FBI, and all departments of our government. The elected representative do not have any experience in law enforcement, many have no education in law at all. This is why the elected people hire and/or appoint people who have the relevant education. You also should remember the elected officials are often democrats who you hate by default regardless of policy. Edited February 29 by TailingsPond Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TailingsPond + 419 GE February 29 26 minutes ago, Ron Wagner said: I love that it helped Ukraine free itself from Russia and continues to do so. My main concern is it meddling in domestic American politics. The GOP want to increase federal government meddling in domestic politics / a.k.a. take away state powers 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 719 MK March 1 (edited) Russia is the evil of the world. They killed 100 000 Ukrainian children and women. The rest is just not important @Tom Nolan You really should hav balls ( or some of it at least) to acknowledge the truth. Tom, you are privileged WASP in your country (the same as I am in mine Poland). So you simply do not care about human suffering. Edited March 1 by Marcin2 typo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Nolan + 2,439 TN March 14 On 3/1/2024 at 9:32 AM, Marcin2 said: Marcin2 says: "Russia is the evil of the world. They killed 100 000 Ukrainian children and women. The rest is just not important @Tom Nolan You really should hav balls ( or some of it at least) to acknowledge the truth. Tom, you are privileged WASP in your country (the same as I am in mine Poland). So you simply do not care about human suffering." Marcin, This thread was started in Dec 2022. Today is March 14, 2024. Anyone who has seen my posts, knows that I oppose all wars and I oppose the media/government cover-ups and oppose how the elite wish to control the human cattle (e.g. WEF, most all governments, etc.) I have a plethora of posts, the majority of which highlight the false propganda that is fed to the masses. EXAMPLE: Meet In-Q-Tel, the CIA’s Venture Capital Firm - 10 minute VIDEO - https://odysee.com/@corbettreport:0/flashback-inqtel:a?t=242 SHOW NOTES/Transcript - https://corbettreport.com/flashback-inqtel/ There is a lot say about the tragic war (which the U.S. wants) in Ukraine. But here is a short video with transcript...(choose your video platform) - Foreign Intervention and the Ukraine Crisis - https://corbettreport.com/foreign-intervention-and-the-ukraine-crisis-2014/ Put "Ukraine" or "Russia" in the Corbett Report Search Bar to find out much more. Everything has sourced documents. Thanks, Tom Nolan Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites