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First up, regardless of your political leanings, I highly recommend taking 15 minutes to watch this video.  It is quite something:

Tucker: Leaders show no obligation to American voters

This video is highlighted at the beginning of this article, which I also highly recommend:

Tucker Carlson and the Plight of the Yellow Vests

I have to hand out sincere kudos to Tucker Carlson. His opening salvo for 2019 was one for the ages. It was a broad-ranging, fifteen-minute rhetorical tour de force.

Tying together Mitt Romney’s vulture capitalism, unchecked immigration, political corruption and the destruction of the middle class family, Carlson laid out a story that if everyone took off their ideological blinders for a few minutes (myself included) would see as simply a horror show.

Carlson’s thesis is that the American family is disintegrating. He’s right. But it’s not just America. It’s everywhere globalism has been the watchword of public policy, ie. Europe as well.

The Yellow Vests in France began protesting over a rise in diesel fuel tax to support climate change initiatives and has morphed into a full-blown revolt against globalism, neoliberalism and French government institutions.

It is the next stage of the dreaded populist uprising of Hillary Clinton’s ‘deplorables.’ And it’s jumped borders. This is the kind of color revolution I can support, not the fake ones ginned up by oligarchs like George Soros.

But what I found interesting was how Carlson was tying together all of the strands of public policy decisions which has created this web of perverse incentives we live under.

In short, globalism has gentrified the cities and impoverished the countryside. Rural job prospects are gone in many areas, not just in the U.S. but also in France and Italy and Greece, etc.

... 

In a world saturated with communication, we are engaging in a stunning lack of it. As I touch on in this video, I don’t begrudge Carlson his rant against market capitalism being a religion. I know there’s a person there who is asking the right questions and is looking for solutions.

Because if we start talking to each other again versus at each other we may just figure out who was behind all this in the first place.

I’ve got my yellow vest, do you?

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31 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

I am not sure how this relates to distingusihing between migrants and refugees (asylumseekers). That is an important distinguishing to make if you want to accusse the EU and UN for forced immigration / migration. 

Noted.  Unfortunately, from the photos I've seen, most of the endless boatloads of illegals that got shipped into EU were healthy working age males - economic migrants, and not women and children.  

The EU insistence to welcome all illegal economic migrants to basically be lumped together with actual refugees was not a smart move.

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French Government to start confiscating guns.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000037129603

 

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\> From: Minister of the Interior

\> To: Prefects of the police in departments and regions, Prefects of the police

\> Subject: Initiation of procedures of confiscation of firearms of categories B,C and D pursuant to legislation 2012-304 of 6 march 2012.

\> Due to the gravity of the current situation and expecting a worsening of the insurrection please put into place without delay the necessary procedures to confiscate all firearms of aforementioned categories held by citizens on the national territory.

\> Local police and gendarmerie forces will carry out the confiscation and deliver receipts mentioning the date of the confiscation, type and number of seized weapons, information of the identity of the legal owner and \[his\] corresponding \[firearm\] permit numbers.

\> This confiscation will be applicable for a period of 6 months, which it can be renewed, and after which the firearms should be returned to their owners.

\> Special categories\[?\] and agents of the State authorized to keep and bear firearms will be exempted from the confiscation of their service weapons. \[Service weapons of state agents will not be confiscated\].

\> Local police forces will be responsible for storage and security of the stored weapons.

\> Operational orders will be given to you in the next communications.

\> /signed/

\> Christophe Castaner

 

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@Rodent  this will not end well...

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On 1/6/2019 at 2:03 AM, Illurion said:

Perhaps you should call the Leaders of Poland,  and Hungary,  and tell them that they are just imagining all of the threats they receive from the EU bureaucrats that you and Red say do not exist.

The "threats" as you call them are regards the distribution key. They concern only refugees. They are a measure enacted to ease the burden on Greece and Italy. That's what you are supposed to do in a Union. Help each other. 

Interestingly, Hungary and Poland are some of countries that has had the most economic benefit of the EU. But they want none of the responsibillities that comes with it.... hmm... It migth also interest you that 1 of the main reasons for Brexit was eastern European labour (many of them Poles and Hungarians) in UK taking British jobs (made possible by the free movement of labour inside the EU). 

Also note the Salvini decree https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/salvini-decree-2018-immigration-in-italy-49642 The EU and UN are keeping their mouthes shut on this. It is outside their remit as it pertains to non-refugees. 

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2 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

First up, regardless of your political leanings, I highly recommend taking 15 minutes to watch this video.  It is quite something:

Tucker: Leaders show no obligation to American voters

This video is highlighted at the beginning of this article, which I also highly recommend:

Tucker Carlson and the Plight of the Yellow Vests

I have to hand out sincere kudos to Tucker Carlson. His opening salvo for 2019 was one for the ages. It was a broad-ranging, fifteen-minute rhetorical tour de force.

Tying together Mitt Romney’s vulture capitalism, unchecked immigration, political corruption and the destruction of the middle class family, Carlson laid out a story that if everyone took off their ideological blinders for a few minutes (myself included) would see as simply a horror show.

Carlson’s thesis is that the American family is disintegrating. He’s right. But it’s not just America. It’s everywhere globalism has been the watchword of public policy, ie. Europe as well.

The Yellow Vests in France began protesting over a rise in diesel fuel tax to support climate change initiatives and has morphed into a full-blown revolt against globalism, neoliberalism and French government institutions.

It is the next stage of the dreaded populist uprising of Hillary Clinton’s ‘deplorables.’ And it’s jumped borders. This is the kind of color revolution I can support, not the fake ones ginned up by oligarchs like George Soros.

But what I found interesting was how Carlson was tying together all of the strands of public policy decisions which has created this web of perverse incentives we live under.

In short, globalism has gentrified the cities and impoverished the countryside. Rural job prospects are gone in many areas, not just in the U.S. but also in France and Italy and Greece, etc.

... 

In a world saturated with communication, we are engaging in a stunning lack of it. As I touch on in this video, I don’t begrudge Carlson his rant against market capitalism being a religion. I know there’s a person there who is asking the right questions and is looking for solutions.

Because if we start talking to each other again versus at each other we may just figure out who was behind all this in the first place.

I’ve got my yellow vest, do you?

Interesting report made me think.

To back it up see below an edited report I have taken from the BBC and it tells us that our lord and masters do not want to lose access to cheap labour even at proffessional levels so they will increase mirgration from outside EU post Brexit.

When they say 'shortage of workers' you have to insert the last bit 'who will work for a low wage ' as that is the trick industry plays when saying there is a lack of doctors and engineers or even crop pickers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-46613900

Tens of thousands of low-skilled migrants could come to the UK to work for up to a year under proposed new post-Brexit immigration rules.

The measure, which would last until 2025, is intended to protect parts of the economy reliant on overseas labour.

The idea was described as "shocking" by campaign group Migration Watch.

Home Secretary Sajid Javid said the new system would be based on UK needs rather than where migrants were from and show the UK "open for business".

Unveiling what he said would be the biggest shake-up of immigration policy for 40 years, Mr Javid said that while there was no "specific target" for reducing numbers coming into the UK, net migration would come down to "sustainable levels".

The much-delayed White Paper - a document setting out proposed new laws before they are formalised in a government bill - also includes:

  • Scrapping the current cap on the number of skilled workers such as doctors or engineers from the EU and elsewhere
  • A consultation on a minimum salary requirement of £30,000 for skilled migrants seeking five-year visas
  • Visitors from the EU will not need visas
  • Plans to phase in the new system from 2021ETTY IMAGES
 

The government says lower-skilled and unskilled migrants will not routinely be able to come to the UK and settle permanently.

However, as a "transitional measure", people from "low-risk countries" in Europe and further afield will be able to come to the UK, without a job offer, and seek work for up to a year.

The scheme is designed to fill vacancies in sectors such as construction and social care which are heavily dependent on EU labour and which ministers fear could struggle to adapt when free movement ends.

There will be a "cooling off period" after a year, meaning people will be expected to leave at that point and not to apply again for a further 12 months.

Ministers say applicants, who will have to pay a fee and not get access to public funds, will not be able to switch to any other migration scheme.

It is understood that the numbers being admitted this way would be "similar" to the 170,000 workers from outside the European Economic Area currently in low or unskilled roles.

The government said it reserved the right to tighten the criteria or impose numerical caps prior to a review in 2025 but campaigners for lower migration said the plans were "astonishing".

Migration Watch said there was no way of making sure people left after a year and the immigration figures, which do not include people in the UK for less than a year, could be distorted as a result.

"It is shocking that the government should have caved in so completely to the demands of industry while ignoring the strong public desire to get immigration down," said its chair Lord Green.

"The chief winners will be business, as they exploit the bonanza of a huge new pool of labour from around the world while continuing to avoid their responsibility to the public to recruit and train up local talent."

It raises the prospect that the immigration system the government is designing is as much about ensuring there's a flow of unskilled labour, as it is about skilled workers.

The White Paper introduces a new visa route for skilled migrants, from Europe and beyond.

It accepts a recommendation from the independent Migration Advisory Committee to scrap the current limit of 20,700 on workers classed as high-skilled coming to the UK using "Tier 2" visas.

Tier 2 is the name for general work visas for people from outside the European Economic Area and Switzerland who have been offered a skilled job in the UK. Eligible professions include nurses and doctors.

Extending it to skilled migrants could affect the NHS's ability to recruit the staff it needs, the body representing NHS trusts has warned.

 

NHS Providers deputy chief executive Saffron Cordery told Today: "We are deeply concerned about what is going to happen. High skills does not equal high pay.

"You have got starting salaries for nurses at £23,000 - also for paramedics, midwives. Junior doctors starting salaries at £27,000, healthcare assistants at £17,000, all coming in way below that £30,000 cap.

"It is not just health workers, it is social care as well. We have to remember where the skills lay. They lay in those staff under £30,000."

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4 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:
French Government to start confiscating guns.

https://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichTexte.do?cidTexte=JORFTEXT000037129603

 

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\> From: Minister of the Interior

\> To: Prefects of the police in departments and regions, Prefects of the police

\> Subject: Initiation of procedures of confiscation of firearms of categories B,C and D pursuant to legislation 2012-304 of 6 march 2012.

\> Due to the gravity of the current situation and expecting a worsening of the insurrection please put into place without delay the necessary procedures to confiscate all firearms of aforementioned categories held by citizens on the national territory.

\> Local police and gendarmerie forces will carry out the confiscation and deliver receipts mentioning the date of the confiscation, type and number of seized weapons, information of the identity of the legal owner and \[his\] corresponding \[firearm\] permit numbers.

\> This confiscation will be applicable for a period of 6 months, which it can be renewed, and after which the firearms should be returned to their owners.

\> Special categories\[?\] and agents of the State authorized to keep and bear firearms will be exempted from the confiscation of their service weapons. \[Service weapons of state agents will not be confiscated\].

\> Local police forces will be responsible for storage and security of the stored weapons.

\> Operational orders will be given to you in the next communications.

\> /signed/

\> Christophe Castaner

 

================================

@Rodent  this will not end well...

HOLY TOLEDO!!!! That is an understatement. Then again... if I had to disarm a country's populace, I guess I'd pick France 😁

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7 hours ago, jaycee said:

 

No re read the thread I repsonded to Tom's view that the Daily Mail is a left wing paper please quote anything I have said other than saying is a right wing one. No mention regards the contents of the article.

PS Do you believe the First Lady is a former escort? The Daily Mail claimed this in 2016, and paid compensation to her for doing so.

I did so,  and you are correct.

I apologize.

As for the fake "escort" article,  did the writer lose his job ?

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3 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

The "threats" as you call them are regards the distribution key. They concern only refugees. They are a measure enacted to ease the burden on Greece and Italy. That's what you are supposed to do in a Union. Help each other. 

Interestingly, Hungary and Poland are some of countries that has had the most economic benefit of the EU. But they want none of the responsibillities that comes with it.... hmm... It migth also interest you that 1 of the main reasons for Brexit was eastern European labour (many of them Poles and Hungarians) in UK taking British jobs (made possible by the free movement of labour inside the EU). 

Also note the Salvini decree https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/salvini-decree-2018-immigration-in-italy-49642 The EU and UN are keeping their mouthes shut on this. It is outside their remit as it pertains to non-refugees. 

You are exactly correct,  thank you for recognizing that Poland and Hungary are under "threat" from the EU for their refusal to take in "refugees".     That was all i and Tom were pointing out.   

Red says that it isn't true,  and that there are no EU officials doing it,  as he says the EU doesn't exist as a government..

And naturally,  he demanded "sources".

Now he has one.

You.

The ability of "labor" to move from one country to another is good,   as long as they are CITIZENS with some sort of skill,  and they are able to adapt to the culture of their new work/home.

But that isn't the case anywhere in the EU.

These "refugees" have no skills,  are not CITIZENS, and are incompatible with the culture of where they have been placed,  and in fact,  refuse to adapt,  and often refuse to "work" according to the media...

And then there is the issue of their criminal behavior.

So your discussion of them as "laborers" is not accurate.

You may not understand this analogy,  but,  from a STAR TREK point of view,  the EU Refugees are "TRIBBLES".   (the episode:  The Trouble With Tribbles)

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1 hour ago, Illurion said:

You are exactly correct,  thank you for recognizing that Poland and Hungary are under "threat" from the EU for their refusal to take in "refugees".     That was all i and Tom were pointing out.   That's a threat the EU can make and deliver on wrt members.  

Red says that it isn't true,  That is false - I never made a comment to the effect you claim. and that there are no EU officials doing it,  as he says the EU doesn't exist as a government..   I said the EU is NOT a government.  I linked to a detailed account of what the EU is and what it does.

And naturally,  he demanded "sources".

Now he has one. Again, you conflate something you believe in to something which is not true.

You.

The ability of "labor" to move from one country to another is good,   as long as they are CITIZENS with some sort of skill,  and they are able to adapt to the culture of their new work/home .

But that isn't the case anywhere in the EU.

These "refugees" have no skills,  are not CITIZENS, and are incompatible with the culture of where they have been placed,  and in fact,  refuse to adapt,  and often refuse to "work" according to the media...  Your ideas suppose many things which are not evident, and are not true, except that it is obvious they will have a different cultural background.  

And then there is the issue of their criminal behavior.  Yes, as there is for the rest of the community, but for the "rest" it's not good media.

So your discussion of them as "laborers" is not accurate.  I would say Rasmus got it right, as even in Australia we make special provisions for "cheap labour" via a visa system.  

WRT to the EU, Rasmus has made the point that as a "union" of nation states there are responsibilities they agree to - they collectively share the gain and the pain.  If they choose to renege on binding arrangements of the European Parliament then there are consequences.

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2 hours ago, Illurion said:

I did so,  and you are correct.

I apologize.

As for the fake "escort" article,  did the writer lose his job ?

No reference was made in the court statement when they apologized and I never heard about anyone being fired. It was a big story over 2 page spread so I assume the editor would have had to approve it and the source of the info so firing the journalist would be pointless.

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14 hours ago, Illurion said:

 

You may not understand this analogy,  but,  from a STAR TREK point of view,  the EU Refugees are "TRIBBLES".   (the episode:  The Trouble With Tribbles)

why wacth sci-fi when there are so many good conspiracy theories on this forum? 

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15 hours ago, Illurion said:

You are exactly correct,  thank you for recognizing that Poland and Hungary are under "threat" from the EU for their refusal to take in "refugees".     That was all i and Tom were pointing out.   

Red says that it isn't true,  and that there are no EU officials doing it,  as he says the EU doesn't exist as a government..

And naturally,  he demanded "sources".

Now he has one.

You.

The ability of "labor" to move from one country to another is good,   as long as they are CITIZENS with some sort of skill,  and they are able to adapt to the culture of their new work/home.

But that isn't the case anywhere in the EU.

These "refugees" have no skills,  are not CITIZENS, and are incompatible with the culture of where they have been placed,  and in fact,  refuse to adapt,  and often refuse to "work" according to the media...

And then there is the issue of their criminal behavior.

So your discussion of them as "laborers" is not accurate.

You may not understand this analogy,  but,  from a STAR TREK point of view,  the EU Refugees are "TRIBBLES".   (the episode:  The Trouble With Tribbles)

You are of course free to think what you will.

All I wanted to do was question @Tom Kirkmans conspiracy theory. I have never suggested that the immigration into Europe (whether refugees or illegal economic migration) is not a problem. I probably believe in a different solution than you. But I respect your opinion regardless of whether you can back it with facts; I expect you to respect mine. 

ps. why are you such staunch defender of Poland? They export their labor to other European countries where they bleed these countries of welfare benefits and then they import North Korean slave labor who work under unsafe conditions and for slave-salaries. So, Poland does not play fair and they help keep North Korea alive.... And the EU cannot sanction them?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/31/world/europe/north-korea-poland-workers.html 

the situation in Europe is complex. It is not fair that you make statements based on 10% of the picture. Please consider this. 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46788751

As well as disarming the populace, protests must now be "registered" and also:

'His government wants to draft new legislation that will ban troublemakers from protests and clamp down on the wearing of masks at demonstrations.'

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2 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

You are of course free to think what you will.

All I wanted to do was question @Tom Kirkmans conspiracy theory. I have never suggested that the immigration into Europe (whether refugees or illegal economic migration) is not a problem. I probably believe in a different solution than you. But I respect your opinion regardless of whether you can back it with facts; I expect you to respect mine. 

Can't recall whether or not I already posted this video:

U.S. Democrats opposed illegal immigration *before* Trump was elected - 2 minute video

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@Tom Kirkman

what is your take on Polands acceptance of use of North Korean slave labour? Is the EU also infringing on Polish soverignty when wanting to do something about this? 

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23 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

 

Can't recall whether or not I already posted this video:

U.S. Democrats opposed illegal immigration *before* Trump was elected - 2 minute video

That's just politics. I am sure I could find some in-consistencies in Trump statements if I were to look. The sad thing is that there is an audience for this on both sides of the spectrum.

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22 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

@Tom Kirkman

what is your take on Polands acceptance of use of North Korean slave labour? Is the EU also infringing on Polish soverignty when wanting to do something about this? 

I don't know anything about this, haven't heard it before.

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1 minute ago, Tom Kirkman said:

I don't know anything about this, haven't heard it before.

Ok. Read the link. I know it is to the NY times, but it is nevertheless true. I know because it was Danish reporters (so called leftwing media; investigative reporters) that discovered this while researching a Danish shipyard that was building for the Navy. 

All I am hoping to achieve is a little balance. 

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5 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

why wacth sci-fi when there are so many good conspiracy theories on this forum? 

Science Fiction at least recognizes that it is fiction.

Based on what you wrote, you on the other hand,  operate under the fiction that you are always right,   and mis-characterize what you do not agree with as fiction.

Just because you do not agree with something doesn't mean that it isn't true.

In the same way that a person isn't paranoid if someone REALLY is out to get them.

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4 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

You are of course free to think what you will.

All I wanted to do was question @Tom Kirkmans conspiracy theory. I have never suggested that the immigration into Europe (whether refugees or illegal economic migration) is not a problem. I probably believe in a different solution than you. But I respect your opinion regardless of whether you can back it with facts; I expect you to respect mine. 

ps. why are you such staunch defender of Poland? They export their labor to other European countries where they bleed these countries of welfare benefits and then they import North Korean slave labor who work under unsafe conditions and for slave-salaries. So, Poland does not play fair and they help keep North Korea alive.... And the EU cannot sanction them?

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/31/world/europe/north-korea-poland-workers.html 

the situation in Europe is complex. It is not fair that you make statements based on 10% of the picture. Please consider this. 

Good morning.

This is the second post i have read from you this morning in which you use the phrase "conspiracy theory".

Is that going to be the "talking point phrase" of the week ?

Back when Clinton was President,  he had his corrupt hatchet man Stephanopolous (who now pretends to be a journalist) run the "Clinton War Room",  and every day,  Stephanopolis would issue a short memo to all White House Staff,  and copied to all of the "Media" that they controlled,  that MEMO was called the "DAILY TALKING POINTS"...

The memo was usually just one sentence long,  and contained the "WRITTEN SPIN" that the Clintons wanted everyone to use on the latest Clinton Corruption Scandal.

examples of talking points:   "THE LEWINSKI AFFAIR",  rather than the Clinton Affair With The Intern".    "IT WAS JUST SEX",   instead of a coverup.     'IT WAS JUST A FAILED LAND DEAL",  rather then than 14 Clinton manipulated swindles that embezzled 54 million dollars from the Small Business Administration., "THE PRESIDENT HAS SUCH GRAVITAS"  instead of Bill Clinton was just Impeached by the House of Representatives for fraud, and lying to a Grand Jury." etc...

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12 minutes ago, Illurion said:

Good morning.

This is the second post i have read from you this morning in which you use the phrase "conspiracy theory".

Is that going to be the "talking point phrase" of the week ?

Back when Clinton was President,  he had his corrupt hatchet man Stephanopolous (who now pretends to be a journalist) run the "Clinton War Room",  and every day,  Stephanopolis would issue a short memo to all White House Staff,  and copied to all of the "Media" that they controlled,  that MEMO was called the "DAILY TALKING POINTS"...

The memo was usually just one sentence long,  and contained the "WRITTEN SPIN" that the Clintons wanted everyone to use on the latest Clinton Corruption Scandal.

examples of talking points:   "THE LEWINSKI AFFAIR",  rather than the Clinton Affair With The Intern".    "IT WAS JUST SEX",   instead of a coverup.     'IT WAS JUST A FAILED LAND DEAL",  rather then than 14 Clinton manipulated swindles that embezzled 54 million dollars from the Small Business Administration., "THE PRESIDENT HAS SUCH GRAVITAS"  instead of Bill Clinton was just Impeached by the House of Representatives for fraud, and lying to a Grand Jury." etc...

Illurion,

Do you just want to make character attacks at me or do you want to comment on any of the points I have raised? I don't make character attacks at you!

ps. I say conspiracy theory because Tom deliberately or un-intentionally focuses on 1 point and then ignores the rest of picture. As an example - Poland can leave the EU when they want. They just need to trigger article 50. Of course they don't because the EU is a financial benefit to them. So, there is no conspiracy. It is just 2 entities trying to maximize. 

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4 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

ps. why are you such staunch defender of Poland?

You are not an American,  so you would not understand.

We love Poland for essentially TWO reasons:

(1)  Prior to the 1970's,  we Americans used to have what we called POLOCK JOKES.    Hundreds of them.  example:   How Man Polocks Does It Take To Screw IN A Light-bulb ?

We had those kinds of jokes for all of the eastern european countries that were enslaved by the Soviets.

Then,  one day,  Lech Walesa,  and his fellow Polish Shipyard Workers at the Gdansk Shipyard,  STOOD UP TO THEIR POLISH-SOVIET CONTROLLED MASTERS,  AND SAID "NO"..   WE ARE ON STRIKE...   

And Poland and the CCCP backed down....!!!

Astounding...

To us Americans,  we had been waiting 60 years for someone behind the Iron Curtain to finally do that...  

And it was the POLOCKS of all people..!

Totally unexpected...

The Poles earned our instant respect....!!!!

We immediately stopped the polock jokes,  and I haven't heard one spoken in over 40 years...

 

That was long ago...

 

Today,   the European Union Government  with it's 1984 THOUGHT POLICE,  and self-destructive immigration and cultural policies is the NEW CCCP THAT ENSLAVES EUROPE...

 

(2)   And again,   it is POLAND,  and now HUNGARY,  that stands up for themselves against the EU...

How could we Americans,   believers in FREEDOM,   not love Poland ?

 

In conclusion,   we are in the midst of moving bases from Germany to Poland now,  as Germany is compromised,  and no longer shares our values.   

Poland does share our values.     

The Polish are far better friends to the USA now than most other European countries.     

We appreciate and reward our friends.

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2 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

That's just politics. I am sure I could find some in-consistencies in Trump statements if I were to look. The sad thing is that there is an audience for this on both sides of the spectrum.

Not really.

The Republicans that you would find doing this aren't really "ON OUR SIDE",  they may be Registered as Republican,  but they are actually RINO's,  Republican In Name Only...

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2 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

I don't know anything about this, haven't heard it before.

Me either,  although it sounds like a Polish version of our H1A & H1B work visas,  where we allow the import of usually unskilled workers from usually 3rd world countries.

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