Venezuela continues to sink in misery

On 1/3/2019 at 9:38 AM, Dan Warnick said:

Actually, the FTC states that they have 1,140 full time equivalent employees and, get this, their 2019 budget is only a mere $390,700,000!  If that's not enough money to enforce it, what is?  Wow!  The information you can find on the government's own websites!  And that took an act of Congress many years ago (to make budget appropriations public).

2019 Budget for the Federal Trade Commission

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And what do you think the budget for advertising in the country, and defending lawsuits, and lobbying? 

In the end laws work best not because of enforcement, but that people, and corporations, have the ethics and belief structure. If it's just cost of getting caught verses the upside, it gets ugly.

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On 1/11/2019 at 2:26 AM, Black Blade said:

People thought that they could "have a free lunch" as it were. The problem is that nothing is ever free. 

Critical in a representative system is voters being critical thinkers. Failing that, since most of us humans aren't evidence based critical thinkers, we count on the system's checks and balances, and opposition forces keeping one group run off with the loot and power. I doubt the framers of the constitution had a two party system in mind, and since something like 75% of the districts are non competitive, the nomination process within a party is key, and how few of us do anything there.

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11 hours ago, mthebold said:

At first glance, yes.  

nope, at any glance. there is a Grand Canyon of difference between assigning fault to a people, and taking joy in their dire consequence. and since we can safely assume that not every single person in Venezuela contributed to the situation there, such as starving children, the previous posters hatred spewing seems poorly thought-out, particularly since it presumably was because somebody else could profit from Venezuela's oil production losses.

I don't disagree with some of the things that you said, but that varies widely with what the other person was saying.

even if something is somebody else's fault you can still have compassion at their suffering. 

these are actual real people, not just some news story. People are dying. no matter what contributed to their plight, are you sure they deserve death? and even if you think that they perhaps deserve death, which I disagree with, it is insane to rejoice in their suffering. 

 

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5 hours ago, Rodent said:

these are actual real people, not just some news story. People are dying. no matter what contributed to their plight, are you sure they deserve death? and even if you think that they perhaps deserve death, which I disagree with, it is insane to rejoice in their suffering.  

Yeah, I know.  Been there; done that.  They're screwed; the more pressing question is, "How can we prevent this from happening elsewhere?"

What concerns me most is that people who survive socialist hellholes migrate to elsewhere for more opportunity - and then complain about the lack of socialism in their new home.  Culpable or not, these people's ideas are dangerous - and virulent.  Expressing empathy only enables those failed, emotionally-driven ideas.  I think these people should be treated as a plague to be quarantined until such time as they learn their lesson.  If that requires shaming them, then so be it.  A little unpleasantness is a small price to pay for stemming the tide of death. 

I'd also argue that, in a democratic or socialist country, everyone is culpable.  The second someone claims the government is of them, by them, or for them - i.e. the second their opinion matters - they also assume responsibility for the results.  If The People don't like that, they're welcome to surrender their votes and free speech to those of us capable of bearing responsibility.  Until then, they can act like adults. 

In short, results are more important than feeling good.  If we stop enabling this nonsense, it might stop happening. 

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On 1/11/2019 at 12:26 AM, Black Blade said:

Seeing that no Communist (Socialist)  state has ever been successful, it is upon the people of Venezuela who voted for Chavez and the mess that they now suffer under. People thought that they could "have a free lunch" as it were. The problem is that nothing is ever free. There are always strings attached. Elections have consequences and now the Venezuelan people are feeling the full effects of those elections. There's a saying that goes ... "Socialism if for the people, not the Socialists". Bad enough that even Venezuelan military are deserting and many are being arrested and tortured as they "might" be opposed to the government. Venezuela should be an important lesson for the rest of the world.

People need to learn to think for themselves. We spend Billions annually to have socialist professors propagandize our students from grade schools through university. They throw in sexual licentiousness and the possibility of numerous sexual identities and other heinous doctrines. The goal of the top leftist leaders is to demoralize our country in any and every way they can. Only God and a resurgence of true Christianity can stop the moral decline. 

This reference is a little dated but it shows how successful the communists and socialists have been. 

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/naked-communist45-goals-destroy-united-states-america-waghelstein/

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On 1/16/2019 at 5:50 AM, mthebold said:

At first glance, yes.  On the other hand, socialists have proven perfectly content to destroy anyone in their path, innocent or not.  They could use a taste of their own medicine, and they could definitely stand to see the rest of the world standing idly by saying, "Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on ours." 

To flesh this out more thoroughly: democracy only works when people defend their own interests.  Socialists defend their interests at all costs, but I've noticed most conservatives take more of a "we're all in this together" attitude.  The result is that conservatives have been steamrolled for the better part of a century.  That being the case, I don't think anyone can afford to play nice anymore.

Practical application: I was speaking to a US leftist who was concerned that Trump didn't care about leftists.  I asked, "Is there anything Trump could do that would earn your vote?", to which she replied, "No."  I pointed out the obvious: "Then you don't matter to him.  That's how democracy works."  The look of dawning comprehension on her face was priceless. 

Personally, I'd love to care about everyone, take care of everyone, and function as one big family.  Unfortunately, I get abused every time I do that, so I've learned to be extremely careful who I care about.  If someone lacks the ability and desire to behave reasonably, I simply can't afford to care about them.  They're impossibly expensive at best and downright vicious at worst. 

Venezuela is endowed with an abundance of natural resources, including an absolutely gorgeous climate and the largest oil reserves in the world - and they somehow managed to f*** that up.  I can't fathom the level of stupidity required to f*** that up, but they did it.  Whatever the case, it's not my problem.  My hands are full dealing with an overbearing government, diversity hires, and a culture hellbent on oppressing me.  Venezuela can take care of itself.

Now that I think about it, it is my problem: the idiots who f***ed up Venezuela now want to enter the US - a competitive market they clearly don't understand, don't agree with, and aren't prepared for.  If I don't find a way to stop them, they'll f*** my country up too. 

Would that we could return to the colonial days, when successful cultures exported their achievement instead of unsuccessful cultures exporting their failure...

This comment is terrific.  I feel there is a missing element to discuss for us in the U.S. and that is the increasing popularity for socialism.  It appears that high taxes, major restrictive regulations, free health care, a guaranteed salary, and a totally green nation is great in the minds of close to 50% of the population, but in practice it just moves the U.S. closer to a socialist country.  Our only saving grace is that most industries are too diversified for the government to move to nationalize.  But, as the government controls health care, college tuition and instills its socialist ideas into the school system, we will see more and more people accepting the ideas of socialism without educating themselves on its ramifications.  We watch Ocasio-Cortez becoming a standard bearer for the Democratic Party with Maxine Waters in charge of the Finance Committee and AOC at her side.  So, today we witness the start of a major move to make America into a socialist country.  As our debt is now beginning to impact our economy and we let in almost a million illegal immigrants, we are sure to have a call to have the government take everything it can whether through a takeover or unsustainable regulations on the basis that it is our only saving grace.

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