Tommie77 + 29 TL August 21, 2019 Can we now all agree that the man, who is on the verge of creating the second US-born global recession in 15 years, is mentally ill:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49416740 When it all comes tumbling down - including oil prices - Trump will be rounding up the usual suspects (his speciality): Obama, the President of China, the Head of the Federal Reserve, business leaders who ignore his advice, immigrants, and, of course, the Democrats. And you’ll be defending him - the vocal Trump supporters on this forum, you know who you are - because history has taught that bad economy helps every nationalist sell their argument that the “good citizens” are the victims of sinister schemes. 1 2 2 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 22, 2019 No, I really do not think we can agree that he is mentally ill. You have a right to your opinion, but please do not assume that you can speak for the rest of us. 1 4 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 August 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Tommie77 said: Can we now all agree that the man, who is on the verge of creating the second US-born global recession in 15 years, is mentally ill: 1 1 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 13 hours ago, Tommie77 said: Can we now all agree that the man, who is on the verge of creating the second US-born global recession in 15 years, is mentally ill:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49416740 When it all comes tumbling down - including oil prices - Trump will be rounding up the usual suspects (his speciality): Obama, the President of China, the Head of the Federal Reserve, business leaders who ignore his advice, immigrants, and, of course, the Democrats. And you’ll be defending him - the vocal Trump supporters on this forum, you know who you are - because history has taught that bad economy helps every nationalist sell their argument that the “good citizens” are the victims of sinister schemes. He is definitely different and says some odd things but he has conviction. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommie77 + 29 TL August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Tom Kirkman said: Only time will tell Tom 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommie77 + 29 TL August 22, 2019 44 minutes ago, James Regan said: He is definitely different and says some odd things but he has conviction. Conviction is good when used positively. There are plenty bad examples of leader with conviction. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Tommie77 said: Conviction is good when used positively. There are plenty bad examples of leader with conviction. Tommie If i was an American I think I would be very happy with what DT is doing, he is following the world trend towards the right wing and protectionism, what's the other options? Central Politics which don't resolve anything but tread water or we head left which in reality is hypocrisy and follows suit as protectionism mixed with rampant corruption. Brasil is a great model to see how communism fails at every step as in the end greed over powers any utopian dream of equality, its in our DNA were humans. As I'm not an American I look at the situation sometimes with distain based on the comments and attitudes of mainstream citizens who have never been out of their current state let alone the country or fail to own a passport, its important to realise that the American Dream is alive and well. I have many good friends from the land of hope and some on this forum but I don't agree with any world domination ideology, it's not healthy and it's apparent in both forms on each side of the trade war unfortunately. Perhaps I am in denial or just jealous... Meanwhile Brexit.......😀 Edited August 22, 2019 by James Regan 2 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, James Regan said: Brasil is a great model to see how communism fails at every step as in the end greed over powers any utopian dream of equality I am not sure that it is fair to characterise Brasil under Lula or Dilma as communist. In fact, I think I would go so far as to state that good governance is more important than economic philosophy. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 22, 2019 1 hour ago, James Regan said: He is definitely different and says some odd things but he has conviction. I believe (therefore an opinion before everyone gets their knickers in a twist) that many people think Trump is different as they expect the President of the US to act like an experienced politician who tries to use diplomacy (which is often ineffective) to achieve his goals. Americans were tired of the same lack of results from waffling politicians and elected a businessman to lead the country. If you try to shoehorn him into the 'politician' pigeonhole, he will definitely be 'different'. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: I am not sure that it is fair to characterise Brasil under Lula or Dilma as communist. In fact, I think I would go so far as to state that good governance is more important than economic philosophy. Rasmus Hi, It was most definitely a Communist Party - PT Partidos do Trabalhadores or Workers Party masquerading as Social Democracy. Sorry to WIKI you but - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Brazil Dilma Rousseff "Although Rousseff states that her political thinking has changed drastically – from Marxism to pragmatic capitalism – she remains proud of her radical roots. Don't get me started on PT and Lula who is currently in Jail or Sergio Cabral who managed to almost bankrupt the state of rio de Janeiro https://www.ft.com/content/deaf3d80-507f-11e7-bfb8-997009366969 Cabrals PDMB whom acting president Michel Temer (After Dilma impeachment) belongs to his currently awaiting his room being cleaned next to Lulas in Curitiba. This country was destroyed by PT and we will not recover for some time. Your point about good governance being more important the economic philosophy- Thats an contradiction in relation to Brasil's thieving Left wing Communist politicians- Your statement would be correct in a first world country. Look up Jeitinho Brasileiro its a little quirk that most Brazilians have in their DNA- Its okay to steal and rob, this came from the worse breed that existed during the colonisation period- The Portuguese, basically Arab Gypsys with Shoes on, what happened the Portuguese came here and robbed and procreated and unfortunately that Portuguese gene is still prevalent. I better stop now, I wish the British had colonised Brasil as do most Brazilians.... Currently facepalming which is turning into a full slapping lol........ Jair Bolsonaro with the help of MR Steve Bannon will get this country whipped into a state, he is currently being stifled by the the "Centrao" ( a mixture of weekend politicians who bent over and took one for Lula and are now backtracking), but if he cannot get leverage by the end of this first mandate, he will do the right thing and call in the military, this countries safest period was during the dictatorship, come down and take a trip through Rio, we have more people killed a day than Afghanistan by factions that PT assisted. I think I may have a slightly bios opinion on this one, I can't even Vote here being British, but I still did my bit to rid this country of the red menace- I look like a British NF member , Possible denial again 🤔 Respectfully James Edited August 22, 2019 by James Regan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 @Tommie77 Sorry dude I highjacked your thread. Apologies James 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 22, 2019 19 minutes ago, James Regan said: Your point about good governance being more important the economic philosophy- Thats an contradiction in relation to Brasil's thieving Left wing Communist politicians- Your statement would be correct in a first world country. Fair enough. I am just not convinced Bolsonaros right wing is better when it comes to governance. 25 minutes ago, James Regan said: Jair Bolsonaro with the help of MR Steve Bannon will get this country whipped into a state, he is currently being stifled by the the "Centrao" ( a mixture of weekend politicians who bent over and took one for Lula and are now backtracking), but if he cannot get leverage by the end of this first mandate, he will do the right thing and call in the military, this countries safest period was during the dictatorship, come down and take a trip through Rio, we have more people killed a day than Afghanistan by factions that PT assisted. I disagree that the military and police will be able to fix the problems of the "favelas". I can however appreciate the want to have something done if living in Rio (especially with family). p.s. Eu falar portugues e conosco Rio.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 August 22, 2019 42 minutes ago, James Regan said: Rasmus Hi, It was most definitely a Communist Party - PT Partidos do Trabalhadores or Workers Party masquerading as Social Democracy. Sorry to WIKI you but - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Brazil Dilma Rousseff "Although Rousseff states that her political thinking has changed drastically – from Marxism to pragmatic capitalism – she remains proud of her radical roots. Don't get me started on PT and Lula who is currently in Jail or Sergio Cabral who managed to almost bankrupt the state of rio de Janeiro https://www.ft.com/content/deaf3d80-507f-11e7-bfb8-997009366969 Cabrals PDMB whom acting president Michel Temer (After Dilma impeachment) belongs to his currently awaiting his room being cleaned next to Lulas in Curitiba. This country was destroyed by PT and we will not recover for some time. Your point about good governance being more important the economic philosophy- Thats an contradiction in relation to Brasil's thieving Left wing Communist politicians- Your statement would be correct in a first world country. Look up Jeitinho Brasileiro its a little quirk that most Brazilians have in their DNA- Its okay to steal and rob, this came from the worse breed that existed during the colonisation period- The Portuguese, basically Arab Gypsys with Shoes on, what happened the Portuguese came here and robbed and procreated and unfortunately that Portuguese gene is still prevalent. I better stop now, I wish the British had colonised Brasil as do most Brazilians.... Currently facepalming which is turning into a full slapping lol........ Jair Bolsonaro with the help of MR Steve Bannon will get this country whipped into a state, he is currently being stifled by the the "Centrao" ( a mixture of weekend politicians who bent over and took one for Lula and are now backtracking), but if he cannot get leverage by the end of this first mandate, he will do the right thing and call in the military, this countries safest period was during the dictatorship, come down and take a trip through Rio, we have more people killed a day than Afghanistan by factions that PT assisted. I think I may have a slightly bios opinion on this one, I can't even Vote here being British, but I still did my bit to rid this country of the red menace- I look like a British NF member , Possible denial again 🤔 Respectfully James Shortly after this photo was taken, James expired when he became a grill ornament on a VW lorry. Rest in peace James...😂 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: Fair enough. I am just not convinced Bolsonaros right wing is better when it comes to governance. I disagree that the military and police will be able to fix the problems of the "favelas". I can however appreciate the want to have something done if living in Rio (especially with family). p.s. Eu falar portugues e conosco Rio.. Ooopah Enoix, pode ficar tranquilo, eu não morar em Rio, gracias e deus... O problema nao e as favelas, por que hoje em dia as favelas estão considerado "comunidades da cultura" mais uma merda do socialismo, são considerado obras de arte para mostrar para os gringos. Culpa fui do Michael Jackson lol. Tem muito gente do bem quem morar nas favelas misturado com as facções CV etc. Tem muito noticia sobre o sucesso do police contra as facções que não e divulgado, por que nossa enimigo do stado- GLOBO são comunistas. Procura BANDE news para uma outro versão do Brasil, vale a pena muito. Sem duvida pode confiar em B17, ele vai resolver Brasiiiil Fui uma grande prazer para falar contigo em Portuguesa Abracos James Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rasmus Jorgensen + 1,169 RJ August 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, James Regan said: Ooopah Enoix, pode ficar tranquilo, eu não morar em Rio, gracias e deus... O problema nao e as favelas, por que hoje em dia as favelas estão considerado "comunidades da cultura" mais uma merda do socialismo, são considerado obras de arte para mostrar para os gringos. Culpa fui do Michael Jackson lol. Tem muito gente do bem quem morar nas favelas misturado com as facções CV etc. Tem muito noticia sobre o sucesso do police contra as facções que não e divulgado, por que nossa enimigo do stado- GLOBO são comunistas. Procura BANDE news para uma outro versão do Brasil, vale a pena muito. Sem duvida pode confiar em B17, ele vai resolver Brasiiiil Fui uma grande prazer para falar contigo em Portuguesa Abracos James Vc melhor para portugues que mas entende. Eu entendei que problema es que pobreza fazer las personas fazer crimes. Lo sei que complicado, mas ainda pienso que isso e parte de probleme... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said: Vc melhor para portugues que mas entende. Eu entendei que problema es que pobreza fazer las personas fazer crimes. Lo sei que complicado, mas ainda pienso que isso e parte de probleme... Sem problema, meu portugês não esta tao bom, muito confuso na conjugação das verbas, its a hard language to master and I am no master a servant.... Sim a problema com as ladroes esta fora de control , rio cheio de bala perdido matando inocentes , o situação esta difícil quando as bandidos tem armas mais pesado do police..... Yep the problem with the thieves is out of control, Rio is rife with stray bullets which are killing innocent people, its a bad situation when the bandits are better armed than the military or police. Im impressed with your language skills as portuguese is really hard to learn if your nor immersed in the country or hearing the language spoken daily, I suppose that's the same with any language. Nos estamos junto amigo. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flemming Hoog + 28 August 22, 2019 18 hours ago, Tommie77 said: Can we now all agree that the man, who is on the verge of creating the second US-born global recession in 15 years, is mentally ill:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49416740 When it all comes tumbling down - including oil prices - Trump will be rounding up the usual suspects (his speciality): Obama, the President of China, the Head of the Federal Reserve, business leaders who ignore his advice, immigrants, and, of course, the Democrats. And you’ll be defending him - the vocal Trump supporters on this forum, you know who you are - because history has taught that bad economy helps every nationalist sell their argument that the “good citizens” are the victims of sinister schemes. @Tommie77 I’m with you all the way, DT is a raving maniac and he’s a danger to the world, personally I’m fine with the fact the he cancelled his trip to Denmark, he should never have been invited at all (hmmmm was he invited at all or did he invite himself). But hey we all just have to get through the next 16 month, then the moron will be history. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR EWING + 123 LM August 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Tommie77 said: Can we now all agree that the man, who is on the verge of creating the second US-born global recession in 15 years, is mentally ill:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49416740 When it all comes tumbling down - including oil prices - Trump will be rounding up the usual suspects (his speciality): Obama, the President of China, the Head of the Federal Reserve, business leaders who ignore his advice, immigrants, and, of course, the Democrats. And you’ll be defending him - the vocal Trump supporters on this forum, you know who you are - because history has taught that bad economy helps every nationalist sell their argument that the “good citizens” are the victims of sinister schemes. Not sure what the illness is but he certainly is suffering from delusions of grandeur. The pains only starting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR EWING + 123 LM August 22, 2019 5 hours ago, James Regan said: He is definitely different and says some odd things but he has conviction. Hitler had conviction, as did Stalin. Is conviction a good thing when your talking about annihilating countries Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, JR EWING said: Hitler had conviction, as did Stalin. Is conviction a good thing when your talking about annihilating countries Bit of a MEME did mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela have conviction and we could go on. So Trump is annihilating countries IYO? (Cheap shot) Edited August 22, 2019 by James Regan 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommie77 + 29 TL August 22, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, James Regan said: Tommie If i was an American I think I would be very happy with what DT is doing, he is following the world trend towards the right wing and protectionism, what's the other options? Central Politics which don't resolve anything but tread water or we head left which in reality is hypocrisy and follows suit as protectionism mixed with rampant corruption. Brasil is a great model to see how communism fails at every step as in the end greed over powers any utopian dream of equality, its in our DNA were humans. As I'm not an American I look at the situation sometimes with distain based on the comments and attitudes of mainstream citizens who have never been out of their current state let alone the country or fail to own a passport, its important to realise that the American Dream is alive and well. I have many good friends from the land of hope and some on this forum but I don't agree with any world domination ideology, it's not healthy and it's apparent in both forms on each side of the trade war unfortunately. Perhaps I am in denial or just jealous... Meanwhile Brexit.......😀 The issue with people on the far right and far left is that they are conditioned to only think in terms of “communist” and “racist” about anyone who sits on the other side of their spectrum. Many people in Europe and the US are starting to fall for stigmatizing populists who make people believe that there is no middle ground. They fall for these “leaders” because they are discontent and angry. Because corporations have figured out that good people elsewhere do the same amount of work faster (because they work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week) and for 20% of the cost. Because the US-born, greed-indused 2007 recession created unprecidented challenges for Western families. Because they have a hard time adapting to the new reality. Because they are getting old and inflexible. Edited August 22, 2019 by Tommie77 2 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommie77 + 29 TL August 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: No, I really do not think we can agree that he is mentally ill. You have a right to your opinion, but please do not assume that you can speak for the rest of us. Every sentence that starts with the word “can”, means to ask a question, Douglas. Unless the the word “can” refers to a container, of course, which it did not. But OK, you are obviously not yet completely convinced that he is mentally not right 😆. Thanks for your reply. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JR EWING + 123 LM August 22, 2019 4 hours ago, James Regan said: Bit of a MEME did mother Teresa and Nelson Mandela have conviction and we could go on. So Trump is annihilating countries IYO? (Cheap shot) Trump has threatened 3 separate countries with genocide. His own words on tweet. As the POTUS do you think his threats are appropriate. Mother Teresa never threatened anyone. And mandella was no saint. Regards always. Not really a cheap shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
James Regan + 1,776 August 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, JR EWING said: Trump has threatened 3 separate countries with genocide. His own words on tweet. As the POTUS do you think his threats are appropriate. Mother Teresa never threatened anyone. And mandella was no saint. Regards always. Not really a cheap shot. Misunderstanding now I understand where you were going. Apologies James 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 August 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, JR EWING said: Trump has threatened 3 separate countries with genocide. His own words on tweet. As the POTUS do you think his threats are appropriate. It takes a really ignorant view of reality to equate threatened retribution for a sneak attack to genocide. By your (non existent) logic,starting with Eisenhower, every American president has "threatened countries with genocide". It's called mutually assured destruction dickfor and has been official US policy for decades. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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