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[Boat + 1,315]

It is reported that most of the companies leaving China end up in other low wage countries and not back to the US. How does this help anyone? It’s one thing to address a problem but the execution of the plan should end with positive results. EH? Harming China was not the goal. Restoring trade balances with multiple countries was. Keep the eye on the ball.

[RuudinFrance + 25]

Come on guys, SKEP is doing a fine job.

He thinks MAGA is a wonderful idea. I believe that eventually the whole world will agree, but that they also will decide that the USA should do it by themselves, all alone. The Donald is doing a fine job too in trying to ensure that the world will come to that conclusion. This utterly childish behavior of a tantrum affected kid does not really impress the world at large anymore (at least not as it once did). Just look at the antics with regard to North Korea and Iran. Look at him trying to influence the FED, sure Powell will bend and I know that SKEP will rejoice, but will the world? Yes, they will as this will be another nail preparing USA’s coffin.

The one with the top TRUMP card is president Xi. The slightly lower TRUMP cards are held by Europe and Putin holds a few of the lowest ones. Does Trump have any TRUMP cards in the final game? I don’t think so.

So, what would that mean, USA going it all alone in an indifferent world, a world that doesn’t care about the USA anymore?

-No more oil/LNG exports, I mean Iran can easily take over USA exports of the stuff, better quality too.

-No more specialty steel product imports, which the USA cannot produce for themselves.

-No EV evolution, as Co, Ni and Li are in short supply inside the USA.

-No more (much wanted) heavy oil for the modern refineries.

-No heavy earth elements, well, the idiot lost Greenland, didn’t he?

  We had so much fun about that issue. Still have to laugh when even thinking about it. Buy Greenland? LOL.

-The soybean farmers will have to be supported indefinitely. Taxpayers will love that.

-Ever had a look at the list of critical/strategic elements? Uranium perhaps?

Well, it looks like he’s got the UK on board, but with Northern Ireland and Scotland leaving, while many overseas investors are bailing out, that’s not much of a price, is it?

No European country wants to, even now, toe the line concerning Hormuz and that’s a good sign that the once mighty USA has started to lose the battle. And I like it.

A drone shot down and it’s no major issue for Trump?

Never mind, western type democracy always gives any people the government they deserve.

And environmentally insensitive as Trump is, he probably has no knowledge of farmer Jarvis Garetson who : ”As he began to cry, he walked away.”

https://eu.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2015/12/10/pumped-beyond-limits-many-us-aquifers-decline/76570380/

 

As I start to ramble, it’s better to conclude with my opinion that SKEP should not be treated with too many sensible arguments as he performs well for the MAGA case and the follow up in 2021 with KAG. Not only good fot USA but also for our world.

Have fun.

[SKEP + 229]

On 8/23/2019 at 8:03 PM, RuudinFrance said:

Come on guys, SKEP is doing a fine job.

He thinks MAGA is a wonderful idea. I believe that eventually the whole world will agree, but that they also will decide that the USA should do it by themselves, all alone. The Donald is doing a fine job too in trying to ensure that the world will come to that conclusion. This utterly childish behavior of a tantrum affected kid does not really impress the world at large anymore (at least not as it once did). Just look at the antics with regard to North Korea and Iran. Look at him trying to influence the FED, sure Powell will bend and I know that SKEP will rejoice, but will the world? Yes, they will as this will be another nail preparing USA’s coffin.

The one with the top TRUMP card is president Xi. The slightly lower TRUMP cards are held by Europe and Putin holds a few of the lowest ones. Does Trump have any TRUMP cards in the final game? I don’t think so.

So, what would that mean, USA going it all alone in an indifferent world, a world that doesn’t care about the USA anymore?

-No more oil/LNG exports, I mean Iran can easily take over USA exports of the stuff, better quality too.

-No more specialty steel product imports, which the USA cannot produce for themselves.

-No EV evolution, as Co, Ni and Li are in short supply inside the USA.

-No more (much wanted) heavy oil for the modern refineries.

-No heavy earth elements, well, the idiot lost Greenland, didn’t he?

  We had so much fun about that issue. Still have to laugh when even thinking about it. Buy Greenland? LOL.

-The soybean farmers will have to be supported indefinitely. Taxpayers will love that.

-Ever had a look at the list of critical/strategic elements? Uranium perhaps?

Well, it looks like he’s got the UK on board, but with Northern Ireland and Scotland leaving, while many overseas investors are bailing out, that’s not much of a price, is it?

No European country wants to, even now, toe the line concerning Hormuz and that’s a good sign that the once mighty USA has started to lose the battle. And I like it.

A drone shot down and it’s no major issue for Trump?

Never mind, western type democracy always gives any people the government they deserve.

And environmentally insensitive as Trump is, he probably has no knowledge of farmer Jarvis Garetson who : ”As he began to cry, he walked away.”

https://eu.desertsun.com/story/news/environment/2015/12/10/pumped-beyond-limits-many-us-aquifers-decline/76570380/

 

As I start to ramble, it’s better to conclude with my opinion that SKEP should not be treated with too many sensible arguments as he performs well for the MAGA case and the follow up in 2021 with KAG. Not only good fot USA but also for our world.

Have fun.

Frenchy

You seem to be making a sizable effort to address my "MAGA" posts.  LOL

Not MAGA. Didn't vote for Trump.

COLABORATORS

Your post represents typical French "collaborator" behavior.  Root against the U.S. in favor of the Chinese Communist Party.  Some things never change. 

Your half-hearted attempt to counter my argument for fair trade fails miserably.  Call people names, demonize them and create false narratives.  It doesn't help your economy very much.  You should learn to work with others.

INFERIORITY COMPLEX

Is this more of the French inferiority complex carryover from your inability to save yourself from WW II invaders.

How many more french Nazi collaborators were there then than those willing to fight for their freedom ? ? ? Too many. The French could not even depend on the Fench during WW II. Am I wrong ?

LOL

ALLIES SACRAFICE

 Thank the  Allies that had to bail you out at great loss of life. Thankless ungrateful boorish dolt. 

There are over 9,000 UNITED STATES SOLDIERS BURIED IN NORMANDY (that is just one 3 day battle) that sacrificed their life for you.  That's 9,000 young men that had their whole life in front of them that took a bullet FOR YOU.

NATO / LIBYA

Then there is NATO. When a U.S. airliner gets bombed after leaving Europe all  NATO Allies are supposed to come to the defense of member countries. Instead the greedy French put Libyan oil over their NATO commitment. The U.S. merely requested ability to fly over French Territory.  France refused. The U.S. pilots had to double their flight time from British bases to Libya to deal with Khafafi. Thanks for nothing.

NOW FRANCE WANTS NATO 

Oh, then when Khafafi started negotiating with Russia and China (as they have a right to do) to develope Libyan oil fields France goes into a full fledged panic and fabricates a false narrative of Libyan slaughter and genocide of the innocent to get U.S. to pay for an attack and save their oil interest in Libya. All this for a civil war inside Libya that the UN charter does not allow. The U.N. and Hillary had no right to interfere.  The French could talk Obama/Clinton into fighting your wars.

SOLDIER HEROS

Last year two young U.S. soldiers were vacationing in France. While riding on a French train a terrorist started to open fire on the occupants of the train car.  The two United States soldiers charged the perpetrator putting themselves in harms way.  They saved a lot of lives that dsy. Do you think two French soldiers traveling on a train in the U.S. would do the same under those circumstances ? NOPE. Never in a million years. 

UNRELIABLE

France is about as reliable as China. The lesson to be learned is don't count on the French. They are undependable.  No character. No honor. No courage.

Tell me, what industry does France have left besides a heavily government subsidized Airbus Corporation ?  Maybe some tourist industry.  Oh, you do make a great bottle of French grape juice.

You know you would probably have been better off today if Germany won WW2. They would have taught you how to manufacture, grow industry and be competitive ?  Am I wrong ?

Go ahead continue to call people names.  Ridicule others for wanting a fair trading system.

Why not put away a bottle of cognac it will help you forget about your problems for a few hours. 

SCHADENFREUDE

French display of schadenfreude is obvious . . . and revolting.  It's for losers.  

Next time when France needs help . .  .  .  . don't worry the U.S. will be there for you.  

That's just the way the way we are in the United Ststes. 

The French need to grow a pair .  .  .  .

 

 

Edited August 25, 2019 by SKEP

[SKEP + 229]

2 hours ago, Boat said:

It is reported that most of the companies leaving China end up in other low wage countries and not back to the US. How does this help anyone? It’s one thing to address a problem but the execution of the plan should end with positive results. EH? Harming China was not the goal. Restoring trade balances with multiple countries was. Keep the eye on the ball.

There is a revolution in factory automation about to develop. When mfg no longer depends on cheap manual labor corporations will move some back to United States. In the meantime any country besides China will do.

Centra America is becoming a new mfg destination for apparel. Employment in Central America is very beneficial to U.S. and all the Western Hemisphere.

Better they have gameful employment than fund the Chinese Communist Party and their military buildup.

Edited August 24, 2019 by SKEP

[Boat + 1,315]

Down the road I believe world trade will be smaller because of tech like 3 D metal printing. There will be much less labor needed and more education will be needed. 

Chinese military buildup? The US spends what, 700 billion to the Chinese less than 200 billion. Since 10 large nukes exploded over 10 large cities will kill the earth and put it in to climate freeze should we also spend billions more on a 7,000+ arsenal that Trump wants? The transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich continues.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Not part of the economic discussion.  

President Trump has made it part of the discussion. 

[SKEP + 229]

On 8/23/2019 at 10:23 PM, Boat said:

Chinese military buildup? The US spends what, 700 billion to the Chinese less than 200 billion. Since 10 large nukes exploded over 10 large cities will kill the earth and put it in to climate freeze should we also spend billions more on a 7,000+ arsenal that Trump wants? 

DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) ONLY SPENDS $200 BILLION A YEAR ON THE PEPOPLES LIBERATION ARMY (PLA)

No. Don't spend more.  Where did you get that idea.

Trump doesn't want more nukes.  He wants to make sure our military is stronger than PLA.

Edited August 25, 2019 by SKEP

[ronwagn + 6,290]

11 minutes ago, Boat said:

Down the road I believe world trade will be smaller because of tech like 3 D metal printing. There will be much less labor needed and more education will be needed. 

Chinese military buildup? The US spends what, 700 billion to the Chinese less than 200 billion. Since 10 large nukes exploded over 10 large cities will kill the earth and put it in to climate freeze should we also spend billions more on a 7,000+ arsenal that Trump wants? The transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich continues.

We definitely need to look at getting more for our defense dollars. 

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

2 hours ago, SKEP said:

Is this more of the French inferiority complex carryover from your inability to save yourself from WW II invaders. How many more Nazi collaborators than those willing to fight for their freedom were there ? ? ? Too many.  Thank the  Allies that had to bail you out at great loss of life. Thankless ungrateful boorish dolt.

Look at your Statue of liberty... without France USA would never had won independence.

"Ungrateful [and] boorish" describes the states, not the refinement of France.

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

2 hours ago, SKEP said:

There is a revolution in factory automation about to develop. When mfg no longer depends on cheap manual labor corporations will move some back to United States. In the meantime any country besides China will do.

You think US will build robots cheaper or faster?  Haha.  It will make things worse!

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

Coors light and a hot dog versus a baguette and cheese with fine wine.

[Hotone + 412]

6 hours ago, SKEP said:

No. Don't spend more.  Where did you get that idea.

Trump doesn't want more nukes.  He has built up military.

The US has just embarked on a new arms race with Russia and possibly China:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/08/russia-blame-abandoning-key-missile-treaty-190823060408119.html

In a couple more years, this may lead to a new Nuclear arms race:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-arms/future-of-last-nuclear-pact-between-russia-and-u-s-uncertain-u-s-envoy-idUSKCN1V41R0

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

14 hours ago, Hotone said:

Where did you get the idea that China is not abiding by WTO rules? As far as I am aware, this is an untruth repeated and naseum by America which is not based facts. Americans think that if you repeat something often enough then it must be true.  However, it is actually the USA which is violating the rules, and it has been happening since Obama's time:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/07/17/us-could-face-chinese-sanctions-against-obama-era-export-tariffs-wto.html

Please also note that for the past few years, US officials have blocked appointments of Appellate Court judges to prevent judgements against American violations of the WTO rules:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trade-wto/wto-chief-sees-no-end-in-sight-to-us-blockage-idUSKCN1QA2IW

You mean like if you continually claim the entire South China Sea that eventually the global community will eventually agree with you?

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Look at your Statue of liberty... without France USA would never had won independence.

"Ungrateful [and] boorish" describes the states, not the refinement of France.

You two sound like two high school girls, are you going to start pulling each others hair next?😆

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Coors light and a hot dog versus a baguette and cheese with fine wine.

How dare you slag hot dogs and Coors!😂

[Hotone + 412]

1 minute ago, Douglas Buckland said:

You mean like if you continually claim the entire South China Sea that eventually the global community will eventually agree with you?

I don't imply that China is also not guilty of bad behaviour.  America's dispute with China falls into at least 3 buckets, trade, technology and security.  Let's be fact based and clear about the issues being addressed

[James Regan + 1,776]

10 minutes ago, Hotone said:

I don't imply that China is also not guilty of bad behaviour.  America's dispute with China falls into at least 3 buckets, trade, technology and security.  Let's be fact based and clear about the issues being addressed

China cannot control 5G, this technology is not for us to google and surf porn sites quicker, it is going to change the way we act as human beings, it's dangerous.....

Edited August 24, 2019 by James Regan

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

27 minutes ago, Hotone said:

I don't imply that China is also not guilty of bad behaviour.  America's dispute with China falls into at least 3 buckets, trade, technology and security.  Let's be fact based and clear about the issues being addressed

Fair enough...

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,129]

42 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

How dare you slag hot dogs and Coors!😂

In fairness, who couldn't slag on Coors?  Of course "fine wine" is the epitome of a bad joke.  Is no such thing when even the "best" wine "tasters" cannot tell the difference between a $1000 bottle of wine and a $5 box of wine. 

Only difference between wine snobs and beer sloshers is one party wastes far more money pretending they are "cultured"

[Enthalpic + 1,496]

55 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

How dare you slag hot dogs and Coors!😂

I've consumed my share...

[SKEP + 229]

6 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

"Ungrateful [and] boorish" describes the states, 

Please try to come up with something original.

The French can't even provide safety in their own cities.  How many "No Go Zones" are there in Paris ? ? ?  Your police won't even enter Chatelet District. They 're afraid.

Maybe hire the Germans or Brits to save you from yourself and try to get your cities back , if it's not lost for good.  Immigration is humane.  It's good. But not if it is lawless and violent. Get a grip.

French need to grow a pair. .. .  

Don't worry of you need the U.S. we will be there when you need us agsin.  The U.S. is not like France.  We don't reneg on commitments or abandon Allies.

Did you know there are over 9,000 U.S. soldiers buried in Normandy. That's just one battle.

Who are you to call American thankless ungrateful and boorish.  What a dolt. 

Don't worry about the U.S. or Trump. It's about time you figured out how to help yourself. 

Grow a pair . . . . . . 

Edited August 24, 2019 by SKEP

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

57 minutes ago, Enthalpic said:

I've consumed my share...

I went to school in Golden, Colorado....I had a few at brewery...😈

[SKEP + 229]

23 hours ago, Zhong Lu said:

Great.  So now you want tariffs on Canadian companies too.  

I mean, sure, sink the stock market.  See if I care.  

No tariffs on Canadians.

[SKEP + 229]

23 hours ago, SKEP said:

Chinese Communist Party retaliates against U.S. oil with tariff because U.S. wants them to abide by WTO rules and reciprocal opportunity.

* Trump always punches back twice as hard so .  .  .  

* If China puts a tariff on U.S. oil exported into China  as they have . . . 

* Put a 10% tariff on Chinese Oil Sands product the exported into or thru the U.S. 

Actually, forget the 10% . Instead go with flat $5 per barrel. Corporations can evade tariffs by playing around with transfer pricing. Make it a flat $5 per barrel on Chinese Oil Sands crude or dilbit.  The exporter should sign export papers declaring (1) origin of oil and chain of custody (2) percentage of exporting Oil Sands Company owned by a Chinese Company.  Prorate the $5 bbl fee to percentage owned by Chinese. 

Example: if an Oil Sands Company is 40% owned by Chinese Oil Company and exports 1million barrels of dilbit to U.S. 

1milion bbls X 40% X $5 = $2 Million. Give the $2 Million to the U.S. farmers.

 China's oil companies also have investment in US Shale basins.  Put a yearly fee on the investments of those Chinese companies. The U.S. companies were not allowed to invest or drill in China. But Chinese could invest in U.S.  oil and gas. Now as of 2 months ago China wants US Shale companies to invest in Chinese Shale drilling. They now do because their Shale oil is not cost effective and they need U.S. knowledge.   There Shale is 20,000 to 25,000 ft. deep and the formation are broken up into small pockets. A total waste of time.

(Note other topic: Argentina Vaca Muerta Shale will be bigger than Permian)

China's behavior is disgraceful. I recommend U.S. should proceed with disengagement from China's economy and place permanent 10% tariff on all Chinese goods exported to US. 

U.S. is wasting their time.

If Chinese Communist Secretary General Xi Jinping would like to get serious about fair trade and reciprocal treatment he knows who to call. He has Trump's telephone number.

Anyone that says "free trade" commerce exists today is delusional, naive or lying. 

Go for it Donald. It's now or never.  

If you stay the course I promise I will hold my nose and vote for you next time.

.

[SKEP + 229]

22 hours ago, SKEP said:

Canada originally limited foreign investment to 49% in any Canadian Oil company.  That all changed when oil tanked.  They conned  the Chinese into investing in Oil Sands promising them West Coast pipelines and export terminals.  The Chinese fell for it.

Tariff their oil going into US, tariff their oil investments in US.

Enough is enough.  U.S. is wasting their time playing these games.

Think about it.  U.S. is just asking for Chinese Communist Party to follow WTO rules.  U.S. just wants reciprocal treatment.  

What fair thinking open minded person can disagree with that. ( I guess there are a few that post on this blog).  

Always somebody.

 

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