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Green New Deal Preview in Texas Town

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19 hours ago, ronwagn said:

Chuck DeVore: 'Green New Deal' preview? Texas town's lofty environmentalism leaves residents with a nightmare

Most interesting.. the new deal is so much nonsense... 

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Aside from the poor decision-making of the Town Fathers, which you can learn more about by reading the reader comments, this situation has a parallel on a much larger scale in Canada.  There, the (at that time) left-wing Leadership of the Province of Ontario decided in their gallant wisdom to go all-in for wind power.  The problem is that the politicians involved were not tutored in engineering, and had no idea what they were doing.  They ended up with an electrically unstable grid system that required (very expensive) intermittent coal and oil power to balance. 

Then it was compounded by a new electricity sales system, wherein the generated power came from Ontario Hydro in bulk to be sold wholesale to local systems, typically municipal in size, who in turn re-sold the power at the retail level.  These compounded ideas ended up ruining the cost structures of the manufacturing plants of Southwestern Ontario, putting some 700,000 workmen out of work, as factory after factory folded.

Right now, General Motors  (GM) has announced the closing of auto manufacture at their sprawling plant in Oshawa, Ontario, a suburb of Toronto.  Although there are lots of individual reasons, including GM management's unhappiness in dealing with UNIFOR, the big auto workers union, one of the reasons is the price of electricity.  It may surprise readers to learn that the labor cost of an auto at the assembly station is only 4% of the final price.  The electricity input cost is quite close to that.  When you get the electricity costing as much as the workforce, you know the plant is going to close.   Nobody can build autos with those kinds of costs. 

This is the problem with govt bureaucrats and govt politicians:  they have no idea what they are doing.  The disasters that follow are then somebody else's fault, because the politicians and bureaucrats refuse to accept responsibility for their profoundly stupid ideas. 

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New wind with bigger turbines can produce electricity cheaper than older smaller turbines. At some point new wind tech in windy areas will always threaten existing older tech over a 30 year time period. But is wind bad because it is improving at a fast clip? Only if your the investor who can’t sell his electricity cheap enough anymore. 

But, but the consumer should win. My advice is to buy contracts at shorter lengths of time so your not trapped into a set price. Unlike FF prices will keep dropping in comparison.

These FF boys will wrongly blame the tech and not the ability to manage it. Just like fracking. 

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On 9/1/2019 at 8:21 PM, Jan van Eck said:

It may surprise readers to learn that the labor cost of an auto at the assembly station is only 4% of the final price.  

It's a dirty secret in manufacturing what a small percentage of the total cost is touch labor in a lot of industries. I used to not even track it. 

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