Atty General Barr likely subpeona so called whistleblower and "leaker" Eric Ciaramella

[Jabbar + 465]

Democrats will not allow GOP to cross examine so called whistleblower Eric Ciaramella during impeachment hearing.

But the Whitehouse visitor logs show he could  be closely tied to the DNC hired contractors thay have had Ukraine investigate Trump's campaign manager and also met with  those reportedly involved in the Steele dossier.

Alexandra Chalupa visit him 27 time in the Whitehouse.

Others include Goldbreener, Kaleniuket worked with Ciaramella.

Plus Victoria Nuland who reportedly coordinated the Steele dossier.

Barr's investigation will take some time . . . but where is the IG's report.  

Heard IG to complete and release his investigation before Thanksgiving.

Could they be holding back on IG report to let Barr and  complete their investigative work ?

BARR INVESTIGATION NOW CRIMINAL

https://www.npr.org/2019/10/25/773358670/doj-review-of-russia-probe-now-is-criminal-case-dems-charge-wh-interference

Edited November 12, 2019 by Jabbar

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

“Democrats will not allow GOP to cross examine Eric Ciaramellow during impeachment hearing.”

Let me get this straight...the Democrats can initiate impeachment hearings targeting the President of the most powerful nation in the world, but they will not allow the opposing party to cross examine their star witness. Does that pretty much sum it up?

Does this sound like a childish travesty to anyone else?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

4 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

“Democrats will not allow GOP to cross examine Eric Ciaramellow during impeachment hearing.”

Let me get this straight...the Democrats can initiate impeachment hearings targeting the President of the most powerful nation in the world, but they will not allow the opposing party to cross examine their star witness. Does that pretty much sum it up?

Does this sound like a childish travesty to anyone else?

 

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“Whistleblower” Eric Ciaramalla Hosted Jan 19, 2016 White House Meeting. – Same Day US Told Ukraine in White House Meeting. to Fire Prosecutor Investigating Hunter Biden

"... There may have been a series of meetings held that day with Ukrainian officials in the Obama White House.

It is clear that Eric Ciaramella hosted one meeting.

It is also clear that this is the day the US told Ukrainian officials in the White House to fire Viktor Shokin.

This is why Eric Ciaramella MUST TESTIFY.
He may have filed his phony second-hand “whistleblower” report because he was definitely in on the plot fire the Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Hunter Biden.  ..."

 

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If you run a search on the White House visitor logs during the final year (2016) of the Obama administration you find that Eric Ciaramella is listed over 200 times.
Ciaramella hosted a meeting with Ukrainian diplomat Andrii Telizhenko on January 19, 2016 in the Obama White House.

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[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

I see every possibility that this whole impeachment fiasco blows up in the Democrats faces and comes back to bite them in the ass...hard!

[John Foote + 1,135]

My impression is the whistle blower just pointed where to find, not provided any evidence themselves. How do you cross exam someone who hasn't testified? You can't challenge their evidence. 

There is an old saying, you can indict a ham sandwich. However said porcine is never actually convicted. The senate won't convict baring something beyond obscene.  And if the house votes I personally doubt the amount of congress Republican reps voting for impeachments exceeds the amount of Democrats voting against impeachment.

Remember, there hasn't even been a vote yet. Millions will be spent trying to guestimate who this affects the primaries and general election. The Democrats may have back themselves into a corner where to survive the nomination process they must vote for, even if it hurts their overall prospects. To a large degree what dems and republicans think doesn't matter. It's the independents who vote that will. 

 

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

11 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I see every possibility that this whole impeachment fiasco blows up in the Democrats faces and comes back to bite them in the ass...hard!

You would be 100% correct if there were such a thing as an honest press in this country. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

1 hour ago, Ward Smith said:

You would be 100% correct if there were such a thing as an honest press in this country. 

You mean like CNN?

 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Bwahahahahaha

Front page of the New York Post today:

 

 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Remember when Obama had 8 actual whistleblowers arrested?

Here is an old CNN program, where CNN was supportive of Obama was having whistleblowers arrested.  Weird.

War on whistleblowers?

 

[John Foote + 1,135]

Snowden certainly comes to mind. A lot of Bush43 and Obama folks should have been locked up. Bush41, being the ex-top spook himself was bit more effective at keeping things under wraps, although the rogue Lt Col Ollie North's sloppiness and arrogance did expose Reagan/Bush41s excursions from the law far more than authorities wanted.

Nothing new about power loathing whistleblowers. 

[Boat + 1,315]

The call itself that Trump calls perfect provides the swamp the Prez finds himself in. The blindness of the President and his supporters to the rule of law shows just how close and easy the country could slip into lawlessness. 
You can hate your opponent, raise money to defeat your opponent but asking a foreign power to participate in investigations or have military aid withheld that congress has approaited as leverage is simply against the law .

The whistle blower is not the judge and jury. The hearings are showing a scheme of pressure  by more than just Trump. His lawyer Giuliani was involved over time to apply leverage to invistigate Biden and his son. This effort was not a one time phone call by the Prez.

[Jabbar + 465]

On 11/13/2019 at 3:43 PM, Boat said:

The call itself that Trump calls perfect provides the swamp the Prez finds himself in. The blindness of the President and his supporters to the rule of law shows just how close and easy the country could slip into lawlessness. 
You can hate your opponent, raise money to defeat your opponent but asking a foreign power to participate in investigations or have military aid withheld that congress has approaited as leverage is simply against the law .

The whistle blower is not the judge and jury. The hearings are showing a scheme of pressure  by more than just Trump. His lawyer Giuliani was involved over time to apply leverage to invistigate Biden and his son. This effort was not a one time phone call by the Prez.

Bet you Nancy never brings impeachment vote.  DEM's will try to muddy Trump over next two weeks.

Nancy can't afford a Senate trial.

GOP has HUGE home field advantage in the Senate.  They would have a fair hearing 1. No hearsay 2. Allow all witness request Eric Ciaramella, etc 3. Due process.

Under oath Schiff will be asked if he met fake whistleblower Ciaramella.  

 

Edited November 17, 2019 by Jabbar

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,132]

What the Hell does this have to do with oil?  Get this thread out of this topic.  Please mods/Jabber put the topic in correct spot

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

9 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

What the Hell does this have to do with oil?  Get this thread out of this topic.  Please mods/Jabber put the topic in correct spot

Agreed, this is not about oil; thread moved to Geopolitics.