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4 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Dangerous talk for a hong jun ji qi ren

See @Papillon ?   20 whole minutes Ward lasted ... 🤣

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9 hours ago, Marcin said:

@ronwagn I did not mean to insult you, but I do not like word "socialism" being misused.

I don't think I have ever misused it. I use it in the broadest sense, which includes welfare statism, fascism, statism. etc. 

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12 hours ago, Marcin said:

@ronwagn I did not mean to insult you, but I do not like word "socialism" being misused.

Uh oh, I am prolly in trouble then ...

 

 

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2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Now, again whether some folks in my home country want to admit it or not, Donald J. Trump is solely responsible for bringing these imbalances and abuses to light of day.  When confronting the worst abuser, China (as Donald himself said "it's not their fault; we made the deals with the Chinese; bad deals."), he found that many if not most other countries in the world wanted to side with China and keep both gravy trains running on time.  So he, in my opinion, rightfully punished those that would continue to favor unbalanced trade and intellectual property theft by withdrawing from treaties that were no longer in our interest and were in fact causing harm to our citizens. 

A remarkable reply sir, my sincerest thanks for that. Very informative indeed, most appreciated. I highlighted this section but could have chosen any of the posting in all honesty. Respectfully, Papillon.

2 hours ago, DayTrader said:

Ward will be way too busy soon arguing with AI

It appears he is not alone sir. I have to maintain that this website is utterly bizarre and I confuse myself on occasion as to why I have returned. Thankfully in these moments I can always just blame it on age and continue perusing. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Papillon said:

A remarkable reply sir, my sincerest thanks for that. Very informative indeed, most appreciated. I highlighted this section but could have chosen any of the posting in all honesty. Respectfully, Papillon.

It appears he is not alone sir. I have to maintain that this website is utterly bizarre and I confuse myself on occasion as to why I have returned. Thankfully in these moments I can always just blame it on age and continue perusing. 

 

Thank you.  I enjoy reading your perspective as well.

Although your second comment is to @DayTrader , I would like to agree: this is a tough forum, sometimes.  But the main players are largely a great bunch of people who care enough (even the Americans!) to talk through things and try to understand the world at least a little better than they already do.  Not an easy task, I think you'll agree?

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2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Now, again whether some folks in my home country want to admit it or not, Donald J. Trump is solely responsible for bringing these imbalances and abuses to light of day. 

Now again whether some folks in your home country want to admit or not Obama had brought these matters to the WTO in a consistent and measured manner and much was being achieved without the fanfare that Trump needs let alone the message it has sent to the many other nations which choose to rely on an agreed process because they of themselves cannot assert the dominance of big hitters.

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20 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

Not an easy task, I think you'll agree?

Indeed sir, I fear this is possibly the understatement of the current century. You must forgive my occasional rather lengthy ramblings. They come with age and dare I say a hesitation to accept views of users a half, third or quite possibly a quarter my age, without giving a full account back. It also seems to be doing my fingers the world of good in all honesty sir, they haven't moved this much in years. My wife suggested a chatroom or something similar, very possibly as she is utterly sick of the rambling and has heard it all before as you can imagine.

Yes I agree sir it's a nice but odd place. I am still unsure with this entire bot issue and in all honesty do not quite understand it. To give you my technological standpoint, it took me close to a whole hour to even figure out how to quote somebody, and I used Google for the first time just a few years ago, so the idea I am chatting to some form of robotic entity is a little beyond my technological expertise in all honesty. I just type and chat and see what happens.

Again thankyou for your detailed reply sir, it adds so much more weight to the discussion for me when you had lived there so long for example. With respect, Papillon. 

Edited December 14, 2019 by Papillon

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1 hour ago, Dan Warnick said:

But the main players are largely a great bunch of people

Debatable but what the hell let's go with it Dan ...

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19 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

Does America have an invasion and subjugation of a neighbor comparable to China vs Tibet?

It does.

USA and China have much more similarities than differences.

I dare to say there is no existing country more similar to US in wider geopolitics area than China.

Both US and China are unique in size and power.

You want to know more about USA, study Chinese history and actions.

You want to know more about American exceptionalism (and arrogance) please study exceptionalism and sense of superiority of Middle Kingdom dwellers.

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16 hours ago, Papillon said:

It appears he is not alone sir. I have to maintain that this website is utterly bizarre and I confuse myself on occasion as to why I have returned. Thankfully in these moments I can always just blame it on age and continue perusing. 

Yeah, I do that too.  Oh, well.

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21 hours ago, Ward Smith said:

America sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold 

20 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

He came to Canada first

May be UK....??

20 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Those problems and many more are our problems to solve, and we will do it alone if necessary.

All that Donald Trump has asked for is a more balanced relationship and a stop to the theft, as much as that is possible.

Quote:"> (Senior Advisor UNICEF) : the first set of challenges around program implementation and service delivery........ accountability for it doesn't quite lie in the sector .......... coordinating services and integrating models as we all know doesn't come so easily; The second big challenge is really in gaining political commitment for an area.......... *unless we're able to articulate very clearly, what is the problem statement – why are we seeking a solution; it's difficult to call to action political leaders, it's difficult to create indignation in those decision-makers to be able to invest for change. "

These quotes taken from the summary of a course given by person incharge of the whole program at UN. In a nutshell the summary basically means that they have problem in delivery; not knowing where the problem is but intending to be innovative and making changes enthusiastically like the rest of the crowd and ........

Therefore, the point is.......... it has been common nowadays that those heads we appointed might not know what the problems are before they try to make changes.............

Regarding the theft, there is a book would like to recommend :" Trojan Horse: The Ultimate Japanese Challenge to western Industry" by Barrie G. James 1989, Mercury Books WH Allen & Co. Plc

In this book, you will realize why Japanese has been leading the world in many fields.  A very smart technique used unnoticed ...............

Edited December 15, 2019 by specinho

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23 hours ago, ronwagn said:

I don't think I have ever misused it. I use it in the broadest sense, which includes welfare statism, fascism, statism. etc. 

Now I get it, I lived in a "socialist" country, it makes me oversensitive to the word, as If am the owner of it. Like white person cannot call Afro-American with n-word but among themselves it is not deemed so racist or rude.

Edited December 15, 2019 by Marcin
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3 hours ago, specinho said:

Regarding the theft, there is a book would like to recommend :" Trojan Horse: The Ultimate Japanese Challenge to western Industry" by Barrie G. James 1989, Mercury Books WH Allen & Co. Plc

In this book, you will realize why Japanese has been leading the world in many fields.  A very smart technique used unnoticed ...............

I do not know whether anybody told you this before, but it is difficult to read multicolor loose groups of words, with very specific punctuation.

I mean your ideas are really smart and I like them, but form often prevents me from reading them.

(If anybody here had more time, they would appreciate this specific form of MS Word art, text affecting the reader on 2 levels: one of straightforward meaning and second of artistic impression of colors and shapes. There could be even third level of intended puns.)

Does usage of colors have some symbolism ? What symbolism ?

What are your intentions relating to punctuation ?

Edited December 15, 2019 by Marcin
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On 12/14/2019 at 12:25 PM, remake it said:

Isolationism is an interesting strategy that does not end well in  today's globalization but your intellectual dilemma is in failing to appreciate that the USA is for all practical purposes inconsequential to China's predominance in most fields within the next few decades - a tide you are neither measuring or apparently able to see rolling over your head.

Globaloney

Edited December 16, 2019 by Ward Smith

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8 hours ago, Marcin said:

I do not know whether anybody told you this before, but it is difficult to read multicolor loose groups of words, with very specific punctuation.

I mean your ideas are really smart and I like them, but form often prevents me from reading them.

(If anybody here had more time, they would appreciate this specific form of MS Word art, text affecting the reader on 2 levels: one of straightforward meaning and second of artistic impression of colors and shapes. There could be even third level of intended puns.)

Does usage of colors have some symbolism ? What symbolism ?

What are your intentions relating to punctuation ?

Each color has a different psychological impact. . There is a big difference according to various cultures however. I have heard that white represents purity to Western Civilization, but death to Africans. Books have been written about colors and emotions. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_psychology

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9 hours ago, Marcin said:

Does usage of colors have some symbolism ?

More likely personality as he uses green predominantly thereby suggesting strong introversion tinged with a want to seek acceptance.

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12 hours ago, Marcin said:

Does usage of colors have some symbolism ? What symbolism ?

Frankly it just pisses me off so I don't bother reading the posts at all

If you cant make your point in black and white then the point you're making cant be all that good in the first place.

Just my opinion sorry Specinho!

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16 hours ago, specinho said:

Therefore, the point is

the point is that you need to write your stuff in black and white like the rest of us, so that it is legible without eyestrain.  Nobody reads your posts because of that awful green ink. 

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On 12/14/2019 at 4:16 PM, Papillon said:

I have to maintain that this website is utterly bizarre and I confuse myself on occasion as to why I have returned.

 

That's part of the fun, please keep posting.

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3 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

That's part of the fun, please keep posting.

Thankyou sir, though I fear with regard to the Time Magazine winner thread that the average user here has an age of possibly fourteen and an IQ only a few multiples higher I'm afraid to say. Therefore I am unsure how long I will continue here.

Edited December 16, 2019 by Papillon

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6 hours ago, Papillon said:

Thankyou sir, though I fear with regard to the Time Magazine winner thread that the average user here has an age of possibly fourteen and an IQ only a few multiples higher I'm afraid to say. Therefore I am unsure how long I will continue here.

Papillon, there is a lot of humor and sarcasm on this site. I hope you stick around and enlighten us dullards since you are capable of carrying on a nice conversation when you are not frustrated by those of us with lesser IQs. 

Here is a story on China vs. America in worldwide opinion. It is enlightening IMHO. https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-or-us-worlds-superpower-heres-what-world-thinks

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13 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Papillon, there is a lot of humor and sarcasm on this site. I hope you stick around and enlighten us dullards since you are capable of carrying on a nice conversation when you are not frustrated by those of us with lesser IQs. 

Ignore him Papillon, he can't even spell ''humour'' properly, but I agree you should stick around and that most are ''dullards'' here. They are also mostly American so you do the math ...   I will await the infamous eyeroll ...

Edited December 16, 2019 by Guest

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16 minutes ago, ronwagn said:

Papillon, there is a lot of humor and sarcasm on this site.

Apologies sir, it was not a reference to yourself and our conversation there, or even particularly solely about that thread. It was just a general observation about some users, and I am sure you feel the same at times, and can appreciate that if I name no names, and leave it in a generic sense, then I am guilt free.

I do not consider the average person here a ''dullard'' any more than I do a robot perhaps, and agree that at times the humour and sarcasm are from the top drawer. However I am more than happy to enlighten anyone that so desires, whether human or machine, it makes no odds to me. Progress is progress after all. 

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6 hours ago, Papillon said:

Thankyou sir, though I fear with regard to the Time Magazine winner thread that the average user here has an age of possibly fourteen and an IQ only a few multiples higher I'm afraid to say.

Dear Sir it may be excessively generous to propose "a few multiples higher" based on the evidence you cited when perhaps a more apt sentiment would be "blessed with an IQ in the formidable single digits."

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20 minutes ago, Papillon said:

Progress is progress after all. 

That's the spirit!  Everyone pitching in to help move things along!