Marcin2 + 725 MK March 7, 2020 (edited) Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. DONALD TRUMP MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY, AUTHORITIES CANNOT ANY LONGER EVADE QUESTION: HOW MANY AMERICANS WERE TESTED UNTIL TODAY ? The Atlantic estimation that maximum 2,000 were tested, is all over the media but Trump Administration treats testing data as the best kept STATE SECRET. If only 2,000 were tested and over 300 cases identified with 17 deaths it means that many more cases at least another 2,000 is unidentified and further spreading the disease. Mainly due to lack of leadership and red tape that slows testing. US looks like a Third World country with only 2,000 people tested, whereas UK 18,000 (and only 115 positive results) and South Korea 130,000. Link to the article below: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/03/how-many-americans-have-been-tested-coronavirus/607597/ After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON DONALD TRUMP NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. INSTEAD HE CLAIMS THAT WHO DATA ABOUT DEATH NUMBERS ARE FALSE. Trumps narcissistic pride comes before the life of his own people. U.S. citizens repeated requests for information about lack of testing were turned down many times. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. We all hope the virus ends soon Donald Trump can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. Edited March 7, 2020 by Marcin2 typo 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcin2 + 725 MK March 7, 2020 (edited) The thread was copied from user BLA thread of 24 February 2020. I just changed: Chinainto US and Xi Jinping/CCP into Donald Trump/Authorities plus made some wording changes cause issue of current secrecy in US is very similar but not the same as recent Chinese secrecy. It was so strange to me that authorities evading the basic data about epidemic and spreading misleading claims were not met by condemnation from mass media. It is their role at the end of the day ? Fortunately the strength of US free press was shown by “The Atlantic” which made own estimation of number of people tested in US. And the article became viral. In the next days we will see if it has some impact, and the best kept US STATE SECRET : How many Americans were tested ? would be revealed. You do not test, you do not have COVID-19 positive people, right ? So everything stays OK. Edited March 7, 2020 by Marcin2 typo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLA + 1,666 BB March 7, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Marcin2 said: The Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CCP NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION. XI JINPING'S narcissistic pride comes before the life of his own people. Repeated requests for information about lack of testing were turned down many times. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. We all hope the virus ends soon XI JINPING can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) , PEOPLE LIBERATION ARMY (PLA) and COMMUNIST SECRETARY GENERAL XI JINPING are a bunch of murdering thugs. Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html Edited March 7, 2020 by BLA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLA + 1,666 BB March 7, 2020 10 minutes ago, BLA said: CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) , PEOPLE LIBERATION ARMY (PLA) and COMMUNIST SECRETARY GENERAL XI JINPING are a bunch of murdering thugs. Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html ASHAME THAT TRUMP HAS TO HUMOR CHINESE TO GET EVEN A LITTLE IMPORTANT DATA FROM THE COMMIES. CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) , PEOPLE LIBERATION ARMY (PLA) and COMMUNIST SECRETARY GENERAL XI JINPING are a bunch of murdering thugs. Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html Hoping warm weather brings relief. BUT NOBODY HONESTLY KNOWS. XI JINPING MUST END VIRUS DATA SECRECY. After the Spanish Flu mutated it became extremely virulent. It subsided and re-emerged in three waves and lasted more than a year. Killed between 50 million to 100 million. Vaccines not discovered yet. (1) Spanish Flu first recorded in March 1918. Very contagious. Deaths resulted. (2) By July 1918 the flu abated. All was good. All clear. (3) August 1918 the Second Wave of a MUTATED Spanish Flu appeared and was both contagious and exceedingly deadly. (4) Third wave , also a mutation, started November 1918. Not as deadly as 2nd wave, but more than the first wave. This continued until Spring 1919. Some reports say still killed until 1920. Don't think it can't happen again ? Better to be prepared. ALL THE MORE REASON CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY (CCP) NEEDS TO PUT ITS PRIDE ASIDE AND WORK WITH ALL THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATIONS Chinese nationalist pride comes before the life of their own people. U.S. CDC repeated requests for data to help develop vaccine has been turned down or ignored. The Chinese have not let the WHO (World Health Organization) visit the infected area. The Chinese have not let U.S. CDC top viral scientist into their country. There is a 3 person resident CDC office in Beijing that Chinese will not share important data. The only viral sample the U.S. has is from the Seattle patient. The U.S. does not know if the virus has mutated. They do not know how long the virus lives outside of the body. How long it survives on wood vs stainless steel vs etc. SARS is in the same RNA virus family (as opposed to DNA) as COV-19. SARS had a 9.6 % fatality rate. That is because it was limited to northeast region in China. For some reason this population did not have an immunity. That's why world needs all demographical data and statistics from from China. Timely data reduces death rate. Some U.S. scientist think it can be transmitted airborne. It appears to be quite easily transmittable. THE CHINESE COMMUNIST HARDLINER NATIONALIST ARE INSISTENT THAT CHINA MUST DEVELOP THE VACCINE. NOT U.S. THE CCP PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE YESTERDAY STATING , " THE VIRUS DID NOT ORIGINATE IN CHINA" Bull In the meantime President Trump has spoken to Xi Jinping three times trying to solicit more cooperation while not insulting their sensitivity which could trigger even greater secrecy. There are groups within Chinese Medical and Scientific community that want to work with outside organizations. But the CCP RULES. CCP forcing some factories to go back online. Imagine what this virus is doing to their economy. Could be premature and cost thousands of additional lives. CCP hope and a pray for warmer weather end of April that cures what ails them. The Spanish flu lasted 14 months. SARS lasted 9 months. We all hope the virus ends soon Xi Jinping can end this secrecy . He should act immediately. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/02/19/coronavirus_more_proof_china_is_unfit_for_global_role.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLA + 1,666 BB March 7, 2020 CHINA HARVESTING ORGANS FROM UIGJURS https://www.businessinsider.com/china-harvesting-organs-of-uighur-muslims-china-tribunal-tells-un-2019-9?op=1 . . . . . . . . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 March 7, 2020 Thread is locked for now. I have received multiple complaints from both BLA and Marcin regarding this thread. BLA wrote the original thread here, and Marcin has made this new thread a "parody" of BLA's thread by copying & pasting, except changing the name XI to Trump and changing CCP to USA. As a moderator, I am not quite sure how to adjudicate this. - It seems that Marcin is upset about "Western" hypocrisy toward China, and is trying to expose hypocrisy about Trump, Xi, China and USA. - And BLA is upset about plagiarism of his original thread (which so far has 11 pages of commentary). In my view, both complaints have merit. This is a no - win situation, so this thread is locked for now. @Selva @CMOP I'm open for advice. Anyone else can private message me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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