Marina Schwarz + 1,576 March 2, 2018 "The European Union’s trade chief on Friday warned of possible retaliation if U.S. President Donald Trump’s plans to impose hefty tariffs on imported steel and aluminum apply to Europe." Australia is also talking about retaliation. China hasn't yet but it's unlikely it remains silent if it turns out the tariffs only apply to it. The metals market will be interesting to watch in the next week. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD March 2, 2018 It could be total trade war: all against the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP March 2, 2018 Everyone knows that trade wars are job killers and don't forget it's a easiest way to lose elections.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP March 2, 2018 Canada says would retaliate against U.S. steel or aluminum tariffs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD March 2, 2018 Not just Canada. The same reactions are already coming from EU, Asia (including China, Japan, S. Korea) , Australia. It doesn't smell good. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM March 2, 2018 t could be a big, big, mistake. This is support a few thousand people, and it sounds great to the base. But, it's completely miss the big picture. Steel-using industries in the U.S. employ some 6.5 million Americans, while steel makers employ about 140,000. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP March 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, Pavel said: Canada says would retaliate against U.S. steel or aluminum tariffs. Much of the steel made with in Canada is exporter to the US . It’s used in many industries. And aluminum that is made to n Quebec as well. It will drive up prices of U.S. domestic goods. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
李伟王芳 + 77 ZL March 2, 2018 Can anyone explain comparative advantage to Trump Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stephen + 67 SM March 2, 2018 just look at today's stock market after the announcement Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP March 2, 2018 Here's one of the potential effects: " An economist for Cox Automotive told Bloomberg the proposed tariffs would add about $200 to the total price of a vehicle.” 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TraderTate + 186 TS March 2, 2018 And ... despite the nice rise in steel stocks over the past weeks, at today's market open they're down a lot. AKS is down over 4% already this morning, and US Steel is 5.89%. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carlsbad + 19 CB March 2, 2018 EVERYTHING is down. Dow lost 420 points over this at close yesterday. Ford and GM are also down as this tariff reality sets in for the auto industry. Of course, Ford and GM are down for lousy trucks sales, too, but the tariffs aren't helping, either. Everyone's afraid of the trade war and inflation. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM March 2, 2018 World Trade Organization Director General Roberto Azevedo expressed concern at U.S. President Donald Trump’s plan for tariffs on steel and aluminum. it isn't usual for WTO to give comment for situation like this, but it's obviously how the potential for escalation is real. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP March 2, 2018 The European Union is considering applying 25 percent tariffs on around $3.5 billion of imports from the United States if President Donald Trump carries out his plan to apply global duties to steel and aluminum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM March 2, 2018 This will hurt business, consumers and everyone's economy. It might actually change the world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 March 2, 2018 I guess the results remain to be seen, but some of these things go together, I think. The fact that Pennsylvania will be hit hardest by any new gas tax, and pacified with the boon from steel tariffs is probably not coincidental. Pennsylvania has largely been hemorrhaging voters in recent years, losing electoral votes each year. 2016 was first year it swung to Republican in quite some time. One of the counties that went blue holds Pennsylvania's largest steel mill--the country's second largest steel mill. And while Democrats largely ignored Pennsylvania during the campaign, a mistake they probably won't make again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Missy + 43 MM March 2, 2018 WHAT THE HECK is the EU whinging about now? "Hello, Pot? This is Kettle." http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/12/news/economy/china-steel-europe-dumping/index.html?iid=EL From a may 2017 story: "Europe has imposed nearly 20 similar measures designed to penalize the Chinese steel industry. 'The EU currently has an unprecedented number of trade defense measures in place targeting unfair imports of steel products related to high levels of industrial overcapacity and subsidies in China,' the European Commission said in a statement." 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Addy + 14 AW March 2, 2018 It's like a bad movie in the making. "Trade Wars: Blue Jeans vs. Steel" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carlsbad + 19 CB March 5, 2018 yes, well, China is dumping ... big time. But this isn't even the point. The point is the broader economy. Protectionism rarely works out the way one hopes it to. And it's not going to be an 'easy win' as indicated on Trump Twitter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LAOIL + 33 OS March 5, 2018 Watch how it throws a wrench in the oil and gas industry, which imports both steel and aluminum for drilling, rigs, pipelines, export terminals. It's going to get too expensive. OPEC should be tickled. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD March 5, 2018 German carmakers send a message how trade war with U.S. must be avoided. Fear spreads. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM March 5, 2018 33 minutes ago, damirUSBiH said: German carmakers send a message how trade war with U.S. must be avoided. Fear spreads. The bulk of Germany’s exports has to be cars. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD March 5, 2018 Nope. Machinery, chemicals, pharmaceuticals, white goods. Germany makes stuff, high quality, value added. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rodent + 1,424 March 5, 2018 8 hours ago, LAOIL said: Watch how it throws a wrench in the oil and gas industry, which imports both steel and aluminum for drilling, rigs, pipelines, export terminals. It's going to get too expensive. OPEC should be tickled. We'll I guess we'll find out. I suspect he will renegotiate the tariffs with CA and Mexico in exchange for something else--like better NAFTA terms. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TraderTate + 186 TS March 6, 2018 Maybe, but he's said already that there will be no 'country' exemptions. Maybe some specific product exemptions, but that was vague. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites