Trump to New York - DROP DEAD!

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html

So it’s essentially come to this: President Trump is treating each of our 50 states as individual contestants on “The Apprentice” — pitting them against one another for scarce resources, daring them to duke it out — rather than mobilizing a unified national response to a pandemic.

If that’s the case, this is the episode where New York loses. The coronavirus is whipping through the state, especially New York City, at a terrifying rate. We need personnel, ventilators and personal protective equipment, stat.

But Trump’s response has been the same as President Gerald Ford’s in 1975, when our city, faltering on the brink of insolvency, begged Washington for help and was brutally rebuffed, a moment forever enshrined in The Daily News’s headline “FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD.”

Now Trump is telling us the same. Literally.

Untold thousands will likely die absent federal intervention. And it needs to happen this instant — not just for the good of the city, but for the nation. The president needs to set a precedent in his hometown.

On Tuesday morning, Gov. Andrew Cuomo opened his daily coronavirus briefing on a far more somber note than usual, noting that the number of cases was climbing at a faster rate than even the experts had predicted, doubling roughly every three days. “The apex is higher than we thought and the apex is sooner than we thought,” he said. “That is a bad combination of facts.”

What it means, practically speaking: Our hospitals will soon be overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients. The governor has already said that the state is 30,000 ventilators short. The only way to acquire the volume we need — delivered at the speed we need — is through federal intervention, which means sending us the bulk of the ventilators from the strategic national stockpile, which has roughly 20,000, and deploying the Defense Production Act to force private manufacturers to make more.

But that’s not what the president is doing. He refuses to use the Defense Production Act, fearing it’ll put an undue burden on business, and he’s keeping his federal stash under tight lock and key. On Tuesday morning, Cuomo confirmed that FEMA would be sending the state only 400 ventilators. (“What are we going to do with 400 ventilators when we need 30,000?” he asked.) Vice President Mike Pence later said he’d send New York 4,000 from the stockpile — a fine start, but nowhere near what New York needs.

What is the president waiting for, and why is he hoarding — or let’s be charitable and say husbanding — his resources? Must the death toll in New York prove so calamitous he needs no further proof? Is he trying to make an example of his former home?

“I will take personal responsibility for transporting the 20,000 ventilators anywhere in this country that they want, once we are past our apex,” Cuomo said. “But don’t leave them sitting in a stockpile, and say, ‘Well, we’re going to wait and see how we allocate them across the country.’ That’s not how this works.”

It would be one thing if other states were in the same dire position as New York. But they aren’t. We have 10 times the number of cases as Washington and eight times that of California. New Yorkers are now locked in place, waiting for the wave to come. As of Tuesday night, Dr. Deborah Birx, the coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, recommends that New Yorkers self-quarantine if they leave the state. Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is ordering anyone flying in from New York to self-quarantine for 14 days upon landing.

I guess Trump likes the numbers where they are. I have news for him: They won’t stay that way. The idea that New York is an exception rather than a harbinger is madness.

The rest of the country may regard New York as a black hole of need. But in fact the opposite has always been true; we’re forever sweeping more into the federal till than we receive in services. In 2018, according to the state comptroller’s office, we gave $26.6 billion more to Washington than we got back, ranking us dead last for federal benefits.

Now, we finally have a native New Yorker in the White House to do something about this discrepancy. Instead, he’s the worst offender, and this time the consequences will be lethal.

Part of me can’t help but wonder if Trump is just playing to his base, which views cities with suspicion, perhaps New York above all. We are multiculturalism personified — home of the United Nations, a place where 637 languages and dialects are spoken. A purée while the rest of the nation is vegetable soup, as Spalding Gray once lovingly said.

Never mind that Trump is himself a creature of New York, just a different dimension of New York. Tabloid New York, real estate New York and (above all, and most ironically) global New York, which made possible his worldwide hotels, his construction projects made of Chinese steel, his loans from Deutsche Bank. It’s a New York he now disavows. A New York he now blames.

But it was New York that made him a reality television star. And what reality television prizes more than anything, we’ve learned, is a Darwinian frame of mind. The contestants aren’t there to make friends. They’re there to destroy each other. They’re there to win. Only the best win.

But this is not a game. Trump has no clue how to marshal the forces of federal government, which he stripped down to the studs. He has no unifying instincts at all. New York will be gasping for breath, and the other states will soon follow. Unless he takes action, now.

 

[J.mo + 165]

They knew what type of growth they were in for by seeing italy and china. Cuomo rebuffed at de blasio for wanting to shut down. remember last week or so when Cuomo said NY can not and will not shut down? That was a fateful error and many good people are now paying the price for it. 

[Uvuvwevwevwe Onyetenyevwe Ugwemuhwem Osas + 96]

Give New York City all your ventilators, you hateful racist!

[M_Ali + 32]

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) begged the Trump administration on Tuesday for more ventilators, warning that the peak of the coronavirus could hit the state in 14 days. The Hill, BY JESSIE HELLMANN - 03/24/20 12:01 PM E

Here is a simple analysis of the predicament of the Money Men Owned City, its residents and Governor currently find themselves in: A quick search on the internet for life saving ventilators or respirators reveals a price range of $1000 to $10,000 in the global medical equipment suppliers market. Assuming an average value of $5000 a piece, NY City desperately and urgently needs according to NY Governor Andrew Cuomo, 35000 (not 400 as promised by President Trump) ventilators to be able to meet the fast approaching estimated peak of Covid-19 infected cases requiring urgent medical care supported by ventilator and oxygen as critical reportorial aids to help thousands of NY city patients chances of surviving the coronavirus infection. Simple calculation shows the city needs a quick sum of a meager figure of $175M to procure required number of ventilators to confront the imminent onslaught of the invisible enemy.

Now here is the bitter irony for NY City's vast inhabitants living on the ground not high up in its clouds, that figure is almost half the figure paid recently for the most expensive high rise penthouse in the Banksters & Financial Capital City of the world. Typically the high end properties in NY skyscrapers are in the $80M-$100M range. Even If my initial estimate is out by a factor of 10 that would mean a figure of $1.75B wold be required instead, still pocket money for Mr Blooming Billionaire whose vast debt wealth has increased by an estimated $40B only since the last financial crisis.

 

Lawrence H. Summers

@LHSummers

Mar 21

 

Thoughts at the end of a long week: Why can’t the greatest economy in the history of the world produce swabs, face masks and ventilators in adequate supply?

[Bob D + 562]

Cuomo begged for ventilators and masks THAT DON'T EXIST.

NY State is suffering from the lack of action by NY State Officials.
NY State and NYC are not taking care of their citizens.
So they play the blame game which is sooo easy when NY Dems leaders and Dem Media spin it like they do.

The people of NY State will suffer but they elected their political leaders and they are where they are because of it.

Highest taxes
Least prepared for Corona
Whine when they don't get "enough" bailout cash.

F@$^ them!

 

edit
I'm a NYer by birth and most of my family is quarantined there right now.

 

 

 

Edited March 26, 2020 by Bob D
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[ronwagn + 6,290]

8 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html

So it’s essentially come to this: President Trump is treating each of our 50 states as individual contestants on “The Apprentice” — pitting them against one another for scarce resources, daring them to duke it out — rather than mobilizing a unified national response to a pandemic.

If that’s the case, this is the episode where New York loses. The coronavirus is whipping through the state, especially New York City, at a terrifying rate. We need personnel, ventilators and personal protective equipment, stat.

But Trump’s response has been the same as President Gerald Ford’s in 1975, when our city, faltering on the brink of insolvency, begged Washington for help and was brutally rebuffed, a moment forever enshrined in The Daily News’s headline “FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD.”

Now Trump is telling us the same. Literally.

Untold thousands will likely die absent federal intervention. And it needs to happen this instant — not just for the good of the city, but for the nation. The president needs to set a precedent in his hometown.

On Tuesday morning, Gov. Andrew Cuomo opened his daily coronavirus briefing on a far more somber note than usual, noting that the number of cases was climbing at a faster rate than even the experts had predicted, doubling roughly every three days. “The apex is higher than we thought and the apex is sooner than we thought,” he said. “That is a bad combination of facts.”

What it means, practically speaking: Our hospitals will soon be overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients. The governor has already said that the state is 30,000 ventilators short. The only way to acquire the volume we need — delivered at the speed we need — is through federal intervention, which means sending us the bulk of the ventilators from the strategic national stockpile, which has roughly 20,000, and deploying the Defense Production Act to force private manufacturers to make more.

But that’s not what the president is doing. He refuses to use the Defense Production Act, fearing it’ll put an undue burden on business, and he’s keeping his federal stash under tight lock and key. On Tuesday morning, Cuomo confirmed that FEMA would be sending the state only 400 ventilators. (“What are we going to do with 400 ventilators when we need 30,000?” he asked.) Vice President Mike Pence later said he’d send New York 4,000 from the stockpile — a fine start, but nowhere near what New York needs.

What is the president waiting for, and why is he hoarding — or let’s be charitable and say husbanding — his resources? Must the death toll in New York prove so calamitous he needs no further proof? Is he trying to make an example of his former home?

“I will take personal responsibility for transporting the 20,000 ventilators anywhere in this country that they want, once we are past our apex,” Cuomo said. “But don’t leave them sitting in a stockpile, and say, ‘Well, we’re going to wait and see how we allocate them across the country.’ That’s not how this works.”

It would be one thing if other states were in the same dire position as New York. But they aren’t. We have 10 times the number of cases as Washington and eight times that of California. New Yorkers are now locked in place, waiting for the wave to come. As of Tuesday night, Dr. Deborah Birx, the coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, recommends that New Yorkers self-quarantine if they leave the state. Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is ordering anyone flying in from New York to self-quarantine for 14 days upon landing.

I guess Trump likes the numbers where they are. I have news for him: They won’t stay that way. The idea that New York is an exception rather than a harbinger is madness.

The rest of the country may regard New York as a black hole of need. But in fact the opposite has always been true; we’re forever sweeping more into the federal till than we receive in services. In 2018, according to the state comptroller’s office, we gave $26.6 billion more to Washington than we got back, ranking us dead last for federal benefits.

Now, we finally have a native New Yorker in the White House to do something about this discrepancy. Instead, he’s the worst offender, and this time the consequences will be lethal.

Part of me can’t help but wonder if Trump is just playing to his base, which views cities with suspicion, perhaps New York above all. We are multiculturalism personified — home of the United Nations, a place where 637 languages and dialects are spoken. A purée while the rest of the nation is vegetable soup, as Spalding Gray once lovingly said.

Never mind that Trump is himself a creature of New York, just a different dimension of New York. Tabloid New York, real estate New York and (above all, and most ironically) global New York, which made possible his worldwide hotels, his construction projects made of Chinese steel, his loans from Deutsche Bank. It’s a New York he now disavows. A New York he now blames.

But it was New York that made him a reality television star. And what reality television prizes more than anything, we’ve learned, is a Darwinian frame of mind. The contestants aren’t there to make friends. They’re there to destroy each other. They’re there to win. Only the best win.

But this is not a game. Trump has no clue how to marshal the forces of federal government, which he stripped down to the studs. He has no unifying instincts at all. New York will be gasping for breath, and the other states will soon follow. Unless he takes action, now.

 

President Trump is the President of the United States, not the President of only NYC and the surrounding megalopolis. He needs to be fair to all the hotspots and is doing a great job at it. There is a U.S. Navy hospital ship sitting in the port of NYC! There is also one on the West Coast. Both are the areas that are the bluest in the country. You sound like one of those paid prevaricators on the payroll of the CCP. 

[0R0 + 6,251]

10 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

But that’s not what the president is doing. He refuses to use the Defense Production Act, fearing it’ll put an undue burden on business, and he’s keeping his federal stash under tight lock and key. On Tuesday morning, Cuomo confirmed that FEMA would be sending the state only 400 ventilators. (“What are we going to do with 400 ventilators when we need 30,000?” he asked.) Vice President Mike Pence later said he’d send New York 4,000 from the stockpile — a fine start, but nowhere near what New York needs.

 

The stockpile is for everyone, not only new yorkers. There are 6 major manufacturers on the medtronic emergency supply chain building up to produce. No Defense Production Power can make any of that happen any faster. Cuomo is saying that NYC now is more important than everyone else later. Well, we can let FEMA triage that situation. At least they might know how. 

 

 

[0R0 + 6,251]

10 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

Never mind that Trump is himself a creature of New York, just a different dimension of New York. Tabloid New York, real estate New York and (above all, and most ironically) global New York, which made possible his worldwide hotels, his construction projects made of Chinese steel, his loans from Deutsche Bank. It’s a New York he now disavows. A New York he now blames.

 

I think that having a New Yorker for president with his family and property largely in New York means that he is doing what he can for the city.

The problem is that if you give NYC ALL of the available resources then there is nothing for anyone else.

DeBlazio and Cuomo didn't react when there was still time. Forgiveable since the CDC made sure we didn't have any tests to use and the FDA prevented private tests from approval. So they had no evidence of community transmission. However, the unique super high density of NYC, and international exposure from tourism and connecting airports, pretty much assured that the whole city would be  infected by the time the first patient shows up at a hospital. That is as opposed to suburban Buffalo, where people don't share doorways elevators or public transport. Which is why statewide quarantine is just plain stupid.

Physical distancing and intense sanitation of public contact surfaces would easily allow a slow propagation that would never reach an overwhelming wave while people continue largely on the usual course of their business. 

As it is, De Blazio and Cuomo stood aside and didn't do a thing till it was way too late. Now the needs of NYC are beyond anything that the rest of the country could supply on a timely basis. 

Trump is not using the Defense Production act because there is ample production being directed to these needs already, just that you can't make this stuff from nothing on equipment that isn't there. It has to be built and run and then there will be output Whatever he can do he is doing.  He pressed the FDA to allow fast approvals of tests, suspend certification protocols so that Honeywell could supply all of its N95 masks for medical use though only 10% are made on an approved line . 

Outside of exercising power for the heck of it, there is little to do. Cuomo is just responding in a politician's mode of seeking control regardless of purpose function or utility. 

[BLA + 1,666]

14 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html

So it’s essentially come to this: President Trump is treating each of our 50 states as individual contestants on “The Apprentice” — pitting them against one another for scarce resources, daring them to duke it out — rather than mobilizing a unified national response to a pandemic.

Mayor de Blasio repeatedly told the city the virus is not a problem time and time again.  He encouraged people go go out in groups , go to the movies. He talked like this up till March 11th , only two weeks ago.

The NYC Health Commissioner Dr.Oxiris Barbot   said that the the city did not have to worry about the virus.  She said the City was well prepared for any infections.  Dr. Barbot should resign. 

Mayor de Blasio refused to close the schools until it was way too late.  Mayor de Blasio should resign.

Anyone that warned about the Chinese Virus was called a racist , bigot , and immoral.

NOW THE MAYOR AND THE NEW YORK TIMES ARE SCREAMING TRUMP WONT SUPPORT NYC.  

Bull.

Enough of this Identity Politics.

Edited March 27, 2020 by BLA

[BLA + 1,666]

6 hours ago, Uvuvwevwevwe Onyetenyevwe Ugwemuhwem Osas said:

Give New York City all your ventilators, you hateful racist!

Hospitals are able to use a ventilator to connect up to 4 patients.

[BLA + 1,666]

6 hours ago, Bob D said:

 

The people of NY State will suffer but they elected their political leaders and they are where they are because of it.

Highest taxes
Least prepared for Corona
Whine when they don't get "enough" bailout cash.

F@$^ them!

 

edit
I'm a NYer by birth and most of my family is quarantined there right now.

 

 

 

Cuomo says the Senate bill giving NY state $3.5 Billion .  Cuomo has a state budget deficit of $15 Billion.

Remember the last crisis where Obama gave the states a $Trillion for "shovel ready" construction projects.  The states used the money to bail out their huge budget deficits from reckless spending and foolish projects. No new construction projects were started.  No wonder the Obama economy never caught fire.

NOW CUOMO WANTS TO SOLVE HIS $15 BILLION STATE BUDGET DEFICIT USING SENATE CRISIS RELIEF BILL

Never let a crisis go to waste.

Governor Cuomo stop making this crisis political.  

Edited March 27, 2020 by BLA

[Dwight Schneider + 11]

Look at the difference between CA which had earlier cases recognized then NY.  And caught a ton of flack because Newsome and mayors started shutting it down much earlier then most.  Hate to say it but Newsome and CA is looking like geniuses compared to some others.  

[BLA + 1,666]

California / Newsome looking like geniuses compared to NYC de Blasio and Governor Cuomo.

Edited March 27, 2020 by BLA

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Think about it this way. Who is more valuable to America? A farmer in Nebraska growing 5000 acres of crops, a rancher in Oklahoma running 1000 head of cattle, or some guy on the stock exchange floor making ‘trades’?

If there are only two ventilators available, and all need one, which two should get the ventilators?

New York consistently goes against anything that may benefit the nation instead of simply New York. New York decided to be a sanctuary city.

Well, as they say, what goes around comes around.

[Eyes Wide Open + 3,555]

17 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/opinion/trump-nyc-coronavirus.html

So it’s essentially come to this: President Trump is treating each of our 50 states as individual contestants on “The Apprentice” — pitting them against one another for scarce resources, daring them to duke it out — rather than mobilizing a unified national response to a pandemic.

If that’s the case, this is the episode where New York loses. The coronavirus is whipping through the state, especially New York City, at a terrifying rate. We need personnel, ventilators and personal protective equipment, stat.

But Trump’s response has been the same as President Gerald Ford’s in 1975, when our city, faltering on the brink of insolvency, begged Washington for help and was brutally rebuffed, a moment forever enshrined in The Daily News’s headline “FORD TO CITY: DROP DEAD.”

Now Trump is telling us the same. Literally.

Untold thousands will likely die absent federal intervention. And it needs to happen this instant — not just for the good of the city, but for the nation. The president needs to set a precedent in his hometown.

On Tuesday morning, Gov. Andrew Cuomo opened his daily coronavirus briefing on a far more somber note than usual, noting that the number of cases was climbing at a faster rate than even the experts had predicted, doubling roughly every three days. “The apex is higher than we thought and the apex is sooner than we thought,” he said. “That is a bad combination of facts.”

What it means, practically speaking: Our hospitals will soon be overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients. The governor has already said that the state is 30,000 ventilators short. The only way to acquire the volume we need — delivered at the speed we need — is through federal intervention, which means sending us the bulk of the ventilators from the strategic national stockpile, which has roughly 20,000, and deploying the Defense Production Act to force private manufacturers to make more.

But that’s not what the president is doing. He refuses to use the Defense Production Act, fearing it’ll put an undue burden on business, and he’s keeping his federal stash under tight lock and key. On Tuesday morning, Cuomo confirmed that FEMA would be sending the state only 400 ventilators. (“What are we going to do with 400 ventilators when we need 30,000?” he asked.) Vice President Mike Pence later said he’d send New York 4,000 from the stockpile — a fine start, but nowhere near what New York needs.

What is the president waiting for, and why is he hoarding — or let’s be charitable and say husbanding — his resources? Must the death toll in New York prove so calamitous he needs no further proof? Is he trying to make an example of his former home?

“I will take personal responsibility for transporting the 20,000 ventilators anywhere in this country that they want, once we are past our apex,” Cuomo said. “But don’t leave them sitting in a stockpile, and say, ‘Well, we’re going to wait and see how we allocate them across the country.’ That’s not how this works.”

It would be one thing if other states were in the same dire position as New York. But they aren’t. We have 10 times the number of cases as Washington and eight times that of California. New Yorkers are now locked in place, waiting for the wave to come. As of Tuesday night, Dr. Deborah Birx, the coordinator for the White House Coronavirus Task Force, recommends that New Yorkers self-quarantine if they leave the state. Gov. Ron DeSantis of Florida is ordering anyone flying in from New York to self-quarantine for 14 days upon landing.

I guess Trump likes the numbers where they are. I have news for him: They won’t stay that way. The idea that New York is an exception rather than a harbinger is madness.

The rest of the country may regard New York as a black hole of need. But in fact the opposite has always been true; we’re forever sweeping more into the federal till than we receive in services. In 2018, according to the state comptroller’s office, we gave $26.6 billion more to Washington than we got back, ranking us dead last for federal benefits.

Now, we finally have a native New Yorker in the White House to do something about this discrepancy. Instead, he’s the worst offender, and this time the consequences will be lethal.

Part of me can’t help but wonder if Trump is just playing to his base, which views cities with suspicion, perhaps New York above all. We are multiculturalism personified — home of the United Nations, a place where 637 languages and dialects are spoken. A purée while the rest of the nation is vegetable soup, as Spalding Gray once lovingly said.

Never mind that Trump is himself a creature of New York, just a different dimension of New York. Tabloid New York, real estate New York and (above all, and most ironically) global New York, which made possible his worldwide hotels, his construction projects made of Chinese steel, his loans from Deutsche Bank. It’s a New York he now disavows. A New York he now blames.

But it was New York that made him a reality television star. And what reality television prizes more than anything, we’ve learned, is a Darwinian frame of mind. The contestants aren’t there to make friends. They’re there to destroy each other. They’re there to win. Only the best win.

But this is not a game. Trump has no clue how to marshal the forces of federal government, which he stripped down to the studs. He has no unifying instincts at all. New York will be gasping for breath, and the other states will soon follow. Unless he takes action, now.

 

I find it so odd how the far left of this world find this President so intimidating, so many well written commentaries yet so full of Rumor Has It. Someday i am quite sure there will be a new class of mystery writers but for now...i can only think of two things.....

Edited March 27, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open

[0R0 + 6,251]

1 hour ago, BLA said:

California / Newsome looking like geniuses compared to NYC de Blasio and Governor Cuomo.

Not quite the achievement it would seem.