franco + 96 FM March 9, 2018 Germany's launching the most environmentally friendly train in the world They are powered hydrogen and oxygen.They can travel 1000 kilometers on a single tank at speeds 140 km/h. They are German's trains. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP March 9, 2018 This tech has been around since the 90's. Glad its finally being used for trains. Congrats. Ger. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damirUSBiH + 327 DD March 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, franco said: They are powered hydrogen and oxygen.... How environmentally friendly is the process of producing the hydrogen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP March 9, 2018 What about the effect on the environment caused by the factories that produce the oxygen and hydrogen? It's not so environmentally like hey said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
franco + 96 FM March 9, 2018 So negative... Make your Friday, guys. Happy Friday both of you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ActionXJackson + 3 AJ March 11, 2018 On 9.3.2018 at 5:28 PM, Petar said: What about the effect on the environment caused by the factories that produce the oxygen and hydrogen? It's not so environmentally like hey said. This is the train: http://www.alstom.com/de/products-services/product-catalogue/rail-systems/trains/products/coradia-ilint-regional-train-/ According to the following article(it´s in german), Alstom gets the hydrogen from chemical plants which creates hydrogen as a waste product(They simply burnt it). https://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/article158262466/Erster-Wasserstoff-Zug-der-Welt-faehrt-in-Deutschland.html By the way hydrogen can be produced environment friendly using the power-to-gas technology(Electrolysis) in combination with wind and solar power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power-to-gas https://www.greenpeace-energy.de/fileadmin/_processed_/6/0/csm_Das_passiert_im_Elektrolyseur_b300af2429.jpg There are already some smaller projects in Europe( as far as I know mainly in Germany and Denmark) which produce so called windgas. When used in larger scale it could be the key to solve the main problem of the german Energiewende: the storability of energy. Wind and solar energy converted into gas could be stored. Germany has a lot of gas storage and the pipeline system itself is a huge storage but on the downside there are a lot of energy conversion losses. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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