Trump will be holding back funds that were going to W.H.O. Good move

[BLA + 1,666]

The World Heath Organization's Director Tedros is a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) puppet.  

Tedros, from Ethiopia was hand picked by China to be the next W.H.O. director.  The Chinese Belt and Road initiative has their claws deep in to Ethiopia.  Tedros and others have been bought off and they've handed over control of precious Ethiopian assets and natural resources to China.

China lied and Tedros knowingly vouched for them.  

Hopefully the U.S. permanently ceases to fund W.H.O.

Yesterday NIH's Dr. Fauci praised Tedros. Go figure.

 

Between 2010 thru 2017 the U.S. has generously contributed $ 2.2 Billion to W.H.O.  !

AND $1.8 BILLION OF THAT WAS VOLUNTARILY CONTRIBUTED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE U.N. 

In 2018 thru 2019 the U.S. contributed $900 million to W.H.O.  China contributed $68 million to W.H.O. .  It's is not know how many $ Million China contributed to Tedros's personal bank account.

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by BLA

[Meredith Poor + 895]

Ghastly idea. The better approach is to review and revise the WHO charter. Global NGOs of that nature should have a set of rules that prohibit China's behavior. However, it would be applicable to 'everyone', and that Everyone includes the US.  The US bullies international organizations all the time.

China should be prohibited from providing any funding, cutting off that source of influence. Any leader that appears to be engaging in a boycott or discriminatory posture should be promptly relieved of their duties. At this point, the rest of the world should chip in to replace whatever funding China has been providing, and set out a clear set of conditions under which China can return to being a fully participating member. One of those conditions is to avoid any attempt to censure or lock out any other sovereign state, and also that they promptly report data on emerging health threats without threatening or prosecuting people that report such information in good faith. This would most likely leave China out of the organization for a long time.

This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

If the organization is proved to be ineffective or ‘broken’ - get out of it! This includes the UN.

[Meredith Poor + 895]

21 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

If the organization is proved to be ineffective or ‘broken’ - get out of it! This includes the UN.

And the IRS.

[Jeff_Calgary + 68]

34 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

If the organization is proved to be ineffective or ‘broken’ - get out of it! This includes the UN.

That is the lazy arrogant approach. Better would be to fund and fix it. 

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

12 minutes ago, Jeff_Calgary said:

That is the lazy arrogant approach. Better would be to fund and fix it. 

How much more funding do you suggest? Perhaps another billion or so?

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Let China fund the fix, apparently they control it anyway.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

3 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

Ghastly idea. The better approach is to review and revise the WHO charter. Global NGOs of that nature should have a set of rules that prohibit China's behavior. However, it would be applicable to 'everyone', and that Everyone includes the US.  The US bullies international organizations all the time.

China should be prohibited from providing any funding, cutting off that source of influence. Any leader that appears to be engaging in a boycott or discriminatory posture should be promptly relieved of their duties. At this point, the rest of the world should chip in to replace whatever funding China has been providing, and set out a clear set of conditions under which China can return to being a fully participating member. One of those conditions is to avoid any attempt to censure or lock out any other sovereign state, and also that they promptly report data on emerging health threats without threatening or prosecuting people that report such information in good faith. This would most likely leave China out of the organization for a long time.

This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football.

The United Nations has been a political football since its inception. It is time to decrease its funding and influence.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

1 hour ago, Jeff_Calgary said:

That is the lazy arrogant approach. Better would be to fund and fix it. 

How has that worked out so far?

[Gerry Maddoux + 3,627]

4 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football.

Meredith, I hate to be the one to break this news, but WHO was turned into a geopolitical football about two decades ago. True, they have a tough job, going into a hotspot and trying to get along with the (usually corrupt) government while doing some sort of medical good. But it's really time for them to go--they serve no function at this point. Other times they have just been sort of there, no help, no hindrance, but this time they're really part of the problem. No, they're done. Basically hiding pertinent information about a pandemic so as not to offend the local gentry in Wuhan qualifies for a pink slip. But it really doesn't make a damn whether or not they keep their logo, President Trump is going to defund the living crap out of them and that's the end of that. Good riddance! i wonder if someone won't write a book about how many people died because they covered up the horrors of Wuhan. Every time you get this soft-hearted feeling about a bunch of dedicated doctors trying to beat down disease, ponder that. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

W.H.O. has been praising CCP and covering up for CCP. 

Let CCP fund the WHO

Extract the U.S. funding from this globalist entity.

U.N. is similary horrid.

Both W.H.O. and U.N. are globalist / Socialist entities that want to eliminate sovereign nations.

The reason I complain about the EU is because I view the EU as a mini version of what the U.N. aspires to be - a globalist entity that stamps out the sovereignty of individual nations.

 

UN Wants a 10% Global Tax to Pay for New "Shared Responsibility" Program to Address Coronavirus Pandemic

The WHO lied about the seriousness of the global coronavirus pandemic. The WHO praised China despite their continued lying. And WHO leader Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus then later created an international panic and global depression when he overstated the mortality rate of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Facts be damned.

But now the WHO’s sister organization, the United Nations, believes they should be paid more after the pandemic.They want more power and cash — a LOT MORE power and cash.

Secretary General Antonio Guterres announced his “shared responsibility, global solidarity” plan this week.  ...

 

The United Nations Secretary-General, António Guterres, has announced the creation of a fund for addressing the global coronavirus pandemic – and he is simultaneously asking nations to contribute the equivalent of at least 10 percent of the annual income of the entire planet to a massive “human-centered, innovative and coordinated stimulus package” that would be administered at the international level.

Although Guterres doesn’t state it explicitly, he seems to be connecting the new fund, which he calls a “dedicated COVID-19 Response and Recovery Fund,” with the massive stimulus package plan, announcing both measures in the same press release.

If countries were to accept the plan, the United Nations or some similar coordinating agency would be given the equivalent of approximately 8.7 trillion USD, an unprecedented amount that would be 2,900 times greater than the UN’s annual budget of 3 billion USD.

The proposed plan would effectively place a global agency, presumably the UN itself, in charge of propping up the economies of the world during the coronavirus crisis, placing it in charge of 10% of global income.

 

[BLA + 1,666]

9 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

Ghastly idea. The better approach is to review and revise the WHO charter. Global NGOs of that nature should have a set of rules that prohibit China's behavior. However, it would be applicable to 'everyone', and that Everyone includes the US.  The US bullies international organizations all the time.

China should be prohibited from providing any funding, cutting off that source of influence. Any leader that appears to be engaging in a boycott or discriminatory posture should be promptly relieved of their duties. At this point, the rest of the world should chip in to replace whatever funding China has been providing, and set out a clear set of conditions under which China can return to being a fully participating member. One of those conditions is to avoid any attempt to censure or lock out any other sovereign state, and also that they promptly report data on emerging health threats without threatening or prosecuting people that report such information in good faith. This would most likely leave China out of the organization for a long time.

This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football.

"This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football."

Meredith, you're a little late.  It has been a political football since China put their man in as director two years ago.

Tedros acting as China's "yes man" cost thousands of lives and $ trillions of economic destruction.

He must resign. 

Don't understand how anyone can defend him .  Beyond belief.  

Whatever Trump says or does .  .  .  .  just do the opposite.  OK, we get it.  

Mer you say, "China should be prohibited from providing any funding," 

China funding WHO is not the problem.  The problem is China has been funding the private bank accounts of Ethiopian corrupt leaders, including Tedros . The Ethiopian leaders get rich while their people suffer.

Here are some facts for you.

Between 2010 and 2017 the U.S. has contributed $ 2.2 Billion to W.H.O.  !

AND $1.8 BILLION OF THAT WAS VOLUNTARILY CONTRIBUTED ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE U.N.  

 

Edited April 8, 2020 by BLA

[Geoff Guenther + 317]

The problem with shutting down WHO or ANY international aid during a crisis like this is the bounceback effect. We've now decided to reduce the number of dead in America, Europe, ME and much of Asia by introducing social distancing. Many African, South Asian and Latin American countries don't have that luxury so the virus will summer there.

Remember the 1918 pandemic? The one @BLA noted came back to haunt us the following November? That's exactly what will happen if we don't deal with this problem as an international problem. You can't declare victory in your flooded cottage just because the tide's gone out.

[BLA + 1,666]

13 minutes ago, Geoff Guenther said:

The problem with shutting down WHO or ANY international aid during a crisis like this is the bounceback effect. We've now decided to reduce the number of dead in America, Europe, ME and much of Asia by introducing social distancing. Many African, South Asian and Latin American countries don't have that luxury so the virus will summer there.

Remember the 1918 pandemic? The one @BLA noted came back to haunt us the following November? That's exactly what will happen if we don't deal with this problem as an international problem. You can't declare victory in your flooded cottage just because the tide's gone out.

Good points

Trump has backed down from definitive statement.

Senator Grahm , head of the appropriation committee is taking the ball and running with it.  He's leaving them out of the next bill. 

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

15 hours ago, Meredith Poor said:

Ghastly idea. The better approach is to review and revise the WHO charter. Global NGOs of that nature should have a set of rules that prohibit China's behavior. However, it would be applicable to 'everyone', and that Everyone includes the US.  The US bullies international organizations all the time.

China should be prohibited from providing any funding, cutting off that source of influence. Any leader that appears to be engaging in a boycott or discriminatory posture should be promptly relieved of their duties. At this point, the rest of the world should chip in to replace whatever funding China has been providing, and set out a clear set of conditions under which China can return to being a fully participating member. One of those conditions is to avoid any attempt to censure or lock out any other sovereign state, and also that they promptly report data on emerging health threats without threatening or prosecuting people that report such information in good faith. This would most likely leave China out of the organization for a long time.

This is the wrong time to turn the WHO into a geopolitical football.

Meredith, you're confused about China's role and methods. They aren't contributing to the WHO, they're directly buying off members in power there. Why pay billions as the US has, when you can bribe these Third World actors for a pittance? And once they've accepted the first penny, no need to continue paying them off, because now you've got them by the short and curlys and get even better results via blackmail threats. 

[Vinnie Moore + 11]

The WHO and China went against protocol. We pay 27% of their budget to the WHO, China pays less than 1%. They protect China's interests and bash us. They are worthless since they did notify the world carelessly on Covid-19 issue. I am glad Trump is reconsidering holding the funds. Great move.

[TooSteep + 142]

"Basically hiding pertinent information about a pandemic so as not to offend the local gentry in Wuhan qualifies for a pink slip. "

+1

And are they really needed anymore in the age of the internet? During disease outbreaks, we want local data and information to go global as fast as possible. Why add layers of bureaucracy? 

At least make it apolitical. If there needs to be this type of medical clearing house for nations without strong public health systems - as Geoff suggests above - then make it a medical organization. Places like Taiwan, with superb public health infrastructure should have a full seat at the table. They can help.

That could be the benchmark: If Taiwan isn't fully represented, it's not a legitimate medical organization.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

2 minutes ago, TooSteep said:

If Taiwan isn't fully represented, it's not a legitimate medical organization.

^ agreed

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

2 hours ago, TooSteep said:

"Basically hiding pertinent information about a pandemic so as not to offend the local gentry in Wuhan qualifies for a pink slip. "

+1

And are they really needed anymore in the age of the internet? During disease outbreaks, we want local data and information to go global as fast as possible. Why add layers of bureaucracy? 

At least make it apolitical. If there needs to be this type of medical clearing house for nations without strong public health systems - as Geoff suggests above - then make it a medical organization. Places like Taiwan, with superb public health infrastructure should have a full seat at the table. They can help.

That could be the benchmark: If Taiwan isn't fully represented, it's not a legitimate medical organization.

Keep it classy Tedros 

Too late. The Taiwan media is having a ball with his flagrant lies about Taiwan death threats. Such a China stooge, and playing the race card to boot. I know white people darker than him. 

Edited April 8, 2020 by Ward Smith

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

21 hours ago, BLA said:

The World Heath Organization's Director Tedros is a Chinese Communist Party (CCP) puppet.  

Tedros, from Ethiopia was hand picked by China to be the next W.H.O. director.  The Chinese Belt and Road initiative has their claws deep in to Ethiopia.  Tedros and others have been bought off and they've handed over control of precious Ethiopian assets and natural resources to China.

China lied and Tedros knowingly vouched for them.  

Maria Bartiromo interviews Steve Bannon. 

CCP supporters, cry more.

 

 

[PTakacs + 59]

Like I said on the other thread, politics from any gov or organizations like the UN or WHO is should always be taken with a grain of salt -- If you think the Chinese numbers are wrong, do you have much confidence as to the published infection count in NYC right now? 

What I know for certain though is to observe what others DID -- the Chinese implemented a hard quarantine of 50M on 1/23/20 (that's more than two months ago), which was basically unprecedented in our human history. The Chinese also isolated the country to the point that we had to charter private flights to get people out. And the Chinese did not hide or deny the 50M quarantine or its isolation.

That was THE hint. The South Koreans and Japanese were smart enough to take the hint and immediately implement their own versions of quarantines, which have since worked. After these many months, today an infected New Yorker can still legally drive out or fly out of NYC to infect others -- we still have no plan to implement a real quarantine there, even though it would be easy to isolate the various islands.

If we play the blame game of who said what at what time, instead of observing who DID what at what time, we will never learn. 

If you think I am wrong, just tell me that after learning the Chinese had just quarantined 50M on 1/23/20, you still thought the Chinese was just overreacting because the virus was not going to do real damage here.

Edited April 9, 2020 by PTakacs

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Yes, they did institute a unprecedented quarantine....after half a million peope, or more, transited the area around Chinese New Year, then were ‘less than transparent’ when it became apparent that the virus had travelled internationally.

This will all come out in the wash. China has much to answer for in the international community. The blowback will be interesting.

Edited April 9, 2020 by Douglas Buckland
Hhh

[PTakacs + 59]

10 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Yes, they did institute a unprecedented quarantine....after half a million peope, or more, transited the area around Chinese New Year, then were ‘less than tran

How many have been, and still are, entering and leaving NYC, LA, SF, Detroit, etc? The Chinese at least purposely started the quarantine before their Chinese New Year. If they wanted to save face, they could have started after the holiday, or they could have just done what we are doing right now -- no quarantine, no closing of borders, and no masks (at least until maybe yesterday).

As to transparency, I get your point, but do you have much confidence as to what is actually going on, and how many have actually been infected, in (say) NYC? Does any gov have any accurate data as to how many have been infected? Would any of that matter when we can see clearly that the Chinese have quarantined 50M? I mean, when I saw the quarantine, I really did not care whether there were 100k infected in Wuhan or 1M. The quarantine was enough. 

Edited April 9, 2020 by PTakacs

[Radha + 262]

Good move by Trump. The WHO has been controlled by Big Pharma and Bill Gates since 2005 when they started accepting billions of $ in private contributions. They are not trying to help us stay healthy or become healthier.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281876323_Why_the_Corruption_of_the_World_Health_Organization_WHO_is_the_Biggest_Threat_to_the_World's_Public_Health_of_Our_Time

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

So are you trying to tell me that the Chinese acted in the best possible manner when this pandemic started or are you simply going to deflect to the situation in New York?