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Anyway here a massive pat on the back for Captain Tom Moore On the right of the picture who turns 100 in a week or so.

he has raised more than £23M for the NHS in the UK on his just giving charity page. £18M more than any individual in the UK. Hopefully he will be knighted in the New Year!!

just addEd a little meme below

 

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13 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Trump hates half the US population; is that any different?

I have no problem calling right-wing gun-nuts who have no regard for the poor deplorable.  Insulting trump is apparently bad but calling the elected leader of Canada a "man child" is fine.  

Trudeau has far more diplomatic skill and class than trump. 

 

What in the world does defending our national rights to gun ownership have to do with being a nut or having no regard for the poor!? The people you are talking about probably donate a higher percentage of their income to help people than the wealthy do. Stating the truth about Trudeau is somehow awful. He had to form a government with the help of another party. He talks badly about fellow Canadian pioneers who built Canada. 

https://debatepost.com/2017/06/23/share-asap-20-stupid-quotes-from-justin-trudeau/

13 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

He was impeached, just as much as POTUS Bill C.

So what? It was an evil impeachment based on nothing except lies. 

Trump has never said that he hates anyone to my knowledge. I am sure that he rightly dislikes the behavior of many, just as anyone should. 

Edited April 18, 2020 by ronwagn
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10 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

The definition of ‘happy’ is probably much different between the Scandinavian countries, European countries, Great Britain, and the States. It is comparing apples to oranges.

I don't think that it is like comparing apples to oranges.  I'm not sure I know totally what it's based on and it's obviously a blurry, grey area concept, but I think that your average person has a similar definition of happy and they know it when they feel it, or to what degree they feel happiness in general in their life.  The fact that many Americans wouldn't be happy in a more socialist economy, definnitely the ones on here lol, doesn't mean that Scandinavians are any less happy.

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Happiness has nothing to do with where you are. It just means you appreciate with what you have now . It depends on your ambitious goals/values compare with what you currently have. My personal experience came from VN (94) to NZ(8) and back to US(19) and I found happiness. And my goal is simple. Have a job and buy my own house, fulfill my family duty, citizen duty, and save enough for the retirement without depends much on my future Government or my children. You can only compare happiness with me if you share the same common goals/values. We all want more than we need. Nothing guarantee your future will be better/worse than mine. I won't be sulky while I am working toward my goal though.

There is no such a common scale for happy measurement. 

Global warming is a complicated issue. I recall very gloomy future when I took sustainable environment paper in Uni. Here the prediction of 2015 would be:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2015/06/12/flashback-abcs-08-prediction-nyc-under-water-climate-change-june

You cannot keep delaying the doom day and keep calling for action. You lose credit for  wrong predictions. 

Secondly what solution should we invest in the problem of global warming:

1 Slow the global warming by invest in renewable energy, cutting off the CO2 and increase lithium battery solid wastes and risk its pollution. And somehow our technologies and infrastructures will make us live in peace with global warming.  Globalist time to save the world, just like China tried to save the world with Covid19.

2 Utilize the cheap energy to do what the Dutch is doing, farming on the sea. Every house should have a boat. Make the oceans cleaner for more fishes. Creating more jobs and innovation on the way.  It can be done in each country level. At the end of the day the beach front houses and buildings are very expensive.  Please sell them for cheaper price and move to safe states.

The world's mainstream at the moment has many double standards, for example:

- They try to save the wild animals but okay with human right violation or even worse, organ harvesting.

- They try to ask US to contribute more to the global problems  or global organizations but allow China to be as polluted as it can. Even UN let China join Human Right Panels during Covid19 pandemic. Yet they cover more about Trump's faults.

- The most contributor to WHO but WHO answering to China. Trump's fault again for cutting off the fund.

For the countries like Taiwan, Hongkong, SEA maybe even North Korea, Trump presents more hope than the rest of the world (ex)governments. China solidified the disputed islands while Obama was talking TPP (which benefits no one but my birth country).

Anyone still remember the Russia interference election investigation? Russia interests are more aligned with Democrats than Trump with the destroying Shale Oil . Why should they help Trump win the election? 

Edited April 18, 2020 by SUZNV

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12 hours ago, Rasmus Jorgensen said:

Except the presidency, rigth? Do you not consider this a problem?

Not from his perspective. He is not there to do "middle ground". He wants to dismantle DC. He only started moving department back offices out of the DC area. there will be plenty more to come. 

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20 hours ago, 0R0 said:

The Trump show is not the actual man. It is a grating bullying buffoon persona meant to present him as the precise opposite of the personages of the administrative class. Opposing their sophisticated ivy league school presentation. The point of the matter is that he is making a big show of not being an elitist a$$hole. Though that is precisely how he was raised. He is playing deliberately that boor that pokes at the leaders he's supposed to work with. That is to differentiate himself and his direction from the broad "swamp" he came into. It also helps to keep the other side busy ridiculing his pronouncements rather than looking at what he is doing.

Europeans don't understand how Americans can choose Trump as something more than a crude showman. It is because Europeans don't understand that their own ossified bureaucracy is no more capable of responding to their shifting politics and needs than a stone, that they accept version n+1 of the same Ecole d'Administration grad, sitting in parliament, at the head of the ministry, at the EC department, prime minister, TV anchor, the school head, the union rep, the corporate management, all the members of the judge panel in court. The only alternative options are caricature nationalist strongmen who are not actually fighting the administrative class. There is no need for Europeans to develop their own buffoon anti-candidate, but they do need to break free of this government structure and social class that this bureaucratic mill is running to imperceptibly crush Europeans one after the other..

100%   Now add that all of the "quotes" etc portrayed of Trump are nearly 100% pulled out of context and then shoved across the pond by lefty marxist scum running their media just as most are in our own media... and it is no wonder people across the pong see Trump this way. There is zero media across the pond who has the need to get quotes/facts correct as it does not effect themselves directly.  This alternative media across the pond has enough of their own problems to deal with and correct the narrative from their own Marxists authoritarian assholes.

All one has to do is follow the religion themes of the "ruling" class of supercilious people.  Anyone  threatening their cushy easy wealthy government jobs will be smeared. 

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1 hour ago, UNC12345 said:

I don't think that it is like comparing apples to oranges.  I'm not sure I know totally what it's based on and it's obviously a blurry, grey area concept, but I think that your average person has a similar definition of happy and they know it when they feel it, or to what degree they feel happiness in general in their life.  The fact that many Americans wouldn't be happy in a more socialist economy, definnitely the ones on here lol, doesn't mean that Scandinavians are any less happy.

I thought I would like Seattle, then realized I couldn't be happy with dreary, cloudy, rainy, cold weather when I was used to sunshine. Scandinavia and coastal Washington are beautiful but you have to like that kind of weather. This is the main reason that people of the world inhabit areas closer to the equator.

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11 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

Ron so on what basis then how are our “piddly little countries” more unhappy and all Americans are happy?? What metrics in what subjects are you measuring??

can you not see how insulting your post is??

What has land mass size got to do with anything? are people in Khazakstan Happy and a powerful nation? Does that make Canadians happier than Americans? Utter nonsense and don’t get me started on freedoms. The very countries you are attacking are the ones who gave you your first settlers and the ancestors of  the people who wrote your beloved constitution! Now where do you think they came up with most of that? Hmmm go figure 

The obvious argument is that their malcontents have migrated to America Australia etc. for a better life, which may or may not have improved their lot, but they are just as malcontent in the US as they were in their motherland. 

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3 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Americans, by and large, don't even like to fill out "Happiness" questionnaires.  You want me to do what?  DILLIGAS!

Americans who are happy sure as heck will NOT fill out questionnaires.  So types of people is self selecting who actually replies...

DILIGAS indeed!

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1 minute ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

Americans who are happy sure as heck will NOT fill out questionnaires.  So types of people is self selecting who actually replies...

DILIGAS indeed!

@CMOP

Heads up, there seems to be a bug in the forum.  Earlier today, my profile picture was oddly changed to the same "help fight coronavirus" profile picture that footeab@yahoo has now.

I changed my profile picture back.

But now footeab's profile picture has changed:

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3 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Well, there have been those comments in the media about nationalism whenever Trump touts the America First line.....

That is because the media touting that pathetic line of reasoning are marxist DC swamp scum. 

Every time Trump uses that line: Americans all know what it means and it appears no one else does.  It does NOT mean what the Marxist scum in the media says it means. 

It means WE Americans are TIRED of being sneered at by our "allies" government types when WE are footing the bill to protect their pampered asses.  Who are not under dire circumstances post WWII anymore or under threat of Nuclear annihilation from the USSR.  We Americans are tired of having authoritarian regimes essentially condone unregulated labor, material regulations, building codes, state sponsored subsides etc allowing them dump products in our country forcing even freedom loving companies overseas because they cannot compete against authoritarian slave labor.  WTO has to go.  GATT had problems, but GATT was between nations who had regulations, rule of law, ~freedom of speech, etc.

It means, if we wish to "save the world"(those having idiot hero complexes because the idiots are still drunk on Hollywood Bull Shit peddled after WWII) you have to be strong at home first before you can "save" others... who near universally do not actually need saving to begin with.  So massive infrastructure spending fits the bill here. 

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27 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

100%   Now add that all of the "quotes" etc portrayed of Trump are nearly 100% pulled out of context and then shoved across the pond by lefty marxist scum running their media just as most are in our own media... and it is no wonder people across the pong see Trump this way. There is zero media across the pond who has the need to get quotes/facts correct as it does not effect themselves directly.  This alternative media across the pond has enough of their own problems to deal with and correct the narrative from their own Marxists authoritarian assholes.

All one has to do is follow the religion themes of the "ruling" class of supercilious people.  Anyone  threatening their cushy easy wealthy government jobs will be smeared. 

I think the US over the last 50 years has got so pissed at the typical politician that the voting public finally got wise to all the crap that was epitomised by the Clintons et al.

Europe and the rest of the West are playing catch up here.

The UK is not too far behind having booted the EU and now have Boris as PM

my concern with Trump is foreign policy as all this is new to him and sometimes he gets himself in a proper muddle which could lead to disaster with some nations.

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7 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

@CMOP

Heads up, there seems to be a bug in the forum.  Earlier today, my profile picture was oddly changed to the same "help fight coronavirus" profile picture that footeab@yahoo has now.

I changed my profile picture back.

But now footeab's profile picture has changed:

Yup; no idea why my pic has changed for last ~week

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Just now, Rob Plant said:

I think the US over the last 50 years has got so pissed at the typical politician that the voting public finally got wise to all the crap that was epitomised by the Clintons et al.

Europe and the rest of the West are playing catch up here.

The UK is not too far behind having booted the EU and now have Boris as PM

my concern with Trump is foreign policy as all this is new to him and sometimes he gets himself in a proper muddle which could lead to disaster with some nations.

True: His communication skills .... uh shall we say kissing hands and pampering government bureaucratic assholes is shall we say... poor. 

This has helped lead many in Europe to think US antagonism towards European countries who are our allies.

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1 hour ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

100%   Now add that all of the "quotes" etc portrayed of Trump are nearly 100% pulled out of context and then shoved across the pond by lefty marxist scum running their media just as most are in our own media... and it is no wonder people across the pong see Trump this way. There is zero media across the pond who has the need to get quotes/facts correct as it does not effect themselves directly.  This alternative media across the pond has enough of their own problems to deal with and correct the narrative from their own Marxists authoritarian assholes.

All one has to do is follow the religion themes of the "ruling" class of supercilious people.  Anyone  threatening their cushy easy wealthy government jobs will be smeared. 

There's a pretty big chunk of the UK that dispise the media as well especially after their portrayal of the average Breixt voter being some ignorant idiot who couldn't send an email (a Labour MP actually said that a few years ago). The 'kippers' or UKIP voters mostly liked Trump as did many hardcore Brexiteers but you are right about the media and people always get suckered by narratives such as Trump is stupid which clearly is not the case.

 

Edited April 18, 2020 by El Nikko

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35 minutes ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

True: His communication skills .... uh shall we say kissing hands and pampering government bureaucratic assholes is shall we say... poor. 

This has helped lead many in Europe to think US antagonism towards European countries who are our allies.

I think Bannon was set lose to head to Europe where he meets with many populist leaders and there are going to be some changes coming hopefully. Merkel should be gone soon, Macron is hanging on by a thread, Salveni could be the next PM of Italy, Orban is awesome and so on and so on...there's plenty to be positive about but it is just taking way too long to get change.

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I think phenomenon of Trump comes from lack of democracy and change in US politics.

Majority of Congressmen are for life in their regions, this causes enormous corruption.

People just cannot vote in the United States, in most States 2 Parties are not solution.

People had a chance to choose President that is outsider from corrupt establishment so they chosen Trump.

I understand why so many Trump supporters. Trump gives you hope that they can have a choice , that something could be changed in US oligarchy.

Actually Trump is the first President since Eisenhower that is a Real person, not political slave of corrupt establishment.

 

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6 hours ago, footeab@yahoo.com said:

That is because the media touting that pathetic line of reasoning are marxist DC swamp scum. 

Every time Trump uses that line: Americans all know what it means and it appears no one else does.  It does NOT mean what the Marxist scum in the media says it means. 

It means WE Americans are TIRED of being sneered at by our "allies" government types when WE are footing the bill to protect their pampered asses.  Who are not under dire circumstances post WWII anymore or under threat of Nuclear annihilation from the USSR.  We Americans are tired of having authoritarian regimes essentially condone unregulated labor, material regulations, building codes, state sponsored subsides etc allowing them dump products in our country forcing even freedom loving companies overseas because they cannot compete against authoritarian slave labor.  WTO has to go.  GATT had problems, but GATT was between nations who had regulations, rule of law, ~freedom of speech, etc.

It means, if we wish to "save the world"(those having idiot hero complexes because the idiots are still drunk on Hollywood Bull Shit peddled after WWII) you have to be strong at home first before you can "save" others... who near universally do not actually need saving to begin with.  So massive infrastructure spending fits the bill here. 

Absolutely, positively could NOT have said it better myself.  Well done!

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6 hours ago, Rob Plant said:

I think the US over the last 50 years has got so pissed at the typical politician that the voting public finally got wise to all the crap that was epitomised by the Clintons et al.

Europe and the rest of the West are playing catch up here.

The UK is not too far behind having booted the EU and now have Boris as PM

my concern with Trump is foreign policy as all this is new to him and sometimes he gets himself in a proper muddle which could lead to disaster with some nations.

Agree with your first points, Rob.  But I think your last point should be included in the positive "enlightened" first part of your comment as well.  Internationally, Trump has made it his mission to let the world know that we have awoken not only to the Clinton's/Liberal's real aims, which at least half of us oppose entirely, but how Europe is largely complicite, if by no other means than just going along with them. 

As far as Asia and the ME, I think they've gotten his/our message clearly enough as well. 

Trump/America is fine with leading, and paying a large portion of the bill, but feel it must be known and acknowledged leadership sometimes demands certain things from those led.  What is the point of selecting a leader if one has no interest in following?

Just my humble opinion, mind you.

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1 hour ago, SUZNV said:

 

Awesome video.  Thanks.  Just going to explore some more of his stuff now....

Edit: These guys are pure Gold.  I highly recommend watching a few more of their videos.  Entertaining and largely on point.

Edited April 19, 2020 by Dan Warnick

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And Tucker weighs in with the closing line: "Fire up a bowl and accept your fate!"

 

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Common sense law enforcement.  That's all people are asking for.

 

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7 hours ago, 0R0 said:

The obvious argument is that their malcontents have migrated to America Australia etc. for a better life, which may or may not have improved their lot, but they are just as malcontent in the US as they were in their motherland. 

Our settlers were primarily seeking religious freedom. The Spanish were also imposing their version of Christianity on the native American people. The northern European colonists were also guilty of imposing their culture and religion on the lands they took over from the indigenous people. The Jews took over Israel from the native people also. More advanced cultures have always done the same thing all around the world. I am not aware of any exceptions. Some tiny tribes still exist in Amazonia or New Guinea etc. Canada and the U.S.A. have large and small reservations that were granted to various tribes of native Americans. 

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I think Jordan's got a solid/good point (4 minute video):

"Pseudo-moralistic Stances" Of Activists