Peaceful rebellions against overreaching restrictions by *elected* Governors

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Bwahahahaha

California government officials fill a skate park with sand to deter kids from social gathering.

Kids turn it into a dirt bike track.

30 second video here

[Radha + 262]

That's great Tom!

Some not so funny news from New Jersey shutting down a Drive Through Tour through Tulip Fields:

https://daltonfarmsnj.com/

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

18 minutes ago, Radha said:

That's great Tom!

Some not so funny news from New Jersey shutting down a Drive Through Tour through Tulip Fields:

https://daltonfarmsnj.com/

That is horrendous   Absursity.  A drive thru banned.

[UNC12345 + 171]

5 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Comrade, a visit to your local re-education center would be a welcome vacation for you.

Meantime, while waiting for your friendly military police to escort you for enhanced right-think training, please wear this yellow armband, so your wrong-think does not infect others in your vicinity.

Hate to poke the bear here, and I know this won't be a popular post at all LOL, but c'mon gentlemen!  You would think the German tanks and troops had descended on your States.  I would agree that they have overshot the mark in terms of reaction, here too, but the Governors/Other officials are trying to protect public health (as they see it, elected officials as you pointed out) based on health warnings, guidance from experts IN A NATIONAL EMERGENCY people!  I guess I shouldn't have expected anything different.  A reaction, to the MAX!!!

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

21 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

The following video was contained in one of your links, Tom.  You've got to watch the bastards!

 

Wow!  @Tom Kirkman look what happened to the video I posted.  Looks like it got yanked off of the air.  Methinks someone don't like the young lady's message?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

45 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

Wow!  @Tom Kirkman look what happened to the video I posted.  Looks like it got yanked off of the air.  Methinks someone don't like the young lady's message?

Why am I not surprised?  ...

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

8 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Some perspective from the CDC.  Why no panic over the flu?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

I stumbled upon that same page of statistics the other day myself when looking for some other factual information.  I was sure it would be picked up around here so didn't post it.  Should have done, but thank you for finally picking it up and sharing it.

[surrept33 + 609]

9 hours ago, 0R0 said:

I think the opening up of low infection rate areas in the largely Republican low density states will embarrass the Dems into looking like they are opening up. But the resumption of vitality in the spread out middle of the country will show Dem state residents what they are missing. Witmer is toast. I expect the state to go Red. Her laundry list of restriction looks like total nonsense.

I don't think there is much evidence that there is a large blowback against Whitmer and others:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/20/poll-michiganians-favor-whitmer-covid-19-handling-over-trump/5164340002/

By large, I mean, among a large enough amount of the population. I get it that for those who are pissed, that they are very pissed.

[UNC12345 + 171]

I really want to believe that this is just a big overreaction.  How do you explain though, what healthcare workers are going through?  I've never personally witnessed the things I'm seeing on TV.  And don't say this is a media thing.

[0R0 + 6,251]

6 hours ago, surrept33 said:

I don't think there is much evidence that there is a large blowback against Whitmer and others:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/04/20/poll-michiganians-favor-whitmer-covid-19-handling-over-trump/5164340002/

By large, I mean, among a large enough amount of the population. I get it that for those who are pissed, that they are very pissed.

The issue with such pols is that they don't distinguish between people who vote and those who don't, the POd people vote. Plenty of those, and if you leave Detroit that is essentially all you find. 

[0R0 + 6,251]

6 hours ago, UNC12345 said:

I really want to believe that this is just a big overreaction.  How do you explain though, what healthcare workers are going through?  I've never personally witnessed the things I'm seeing on TV.  And don't say this is a media thing.

That was only partially true. Some of the footage popular to demonstrate conditions in NYC hospitals was from Milan in Italy. The NYC hospitals did get overwhelmed, did run out of materials and equipment, and that is partially responsible for their high death rates. Similar for Detroit. But that level of hospitalization of very severe cases is down substantially. They are going down the severity scale in triage for admission. 

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

15 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Bwahahahaha

California government officials fill a skate park with sand to deter kids from social gathering.

Kids turn it into a dirt bike track.

30 second video here

That ol’ American ingenuity! When life gives you lemons, make lemonade!😂

[surrept33 + 609]

58 minutes ago, 0R0 said:

The issue with such pols is that they don't distinguish between people who vote and those who don't, the POd people vote. Plenty of those, and if you leave Detroit that is essentially all you find. 

Point taken, but still, the pathway for any republican either statewide or presidental in michigan still lies in parts of the greater detroit area, especially in Macomb County. It, like most of southeast michigan, was hard hit in the outbreak and I think would be especially sympathetic with any public health-related shutdown.

These are also areas that Whitmer did well in 2018 (along with larger turnout in detroit proper).

2016 looked like this:

 

[BradleyPNW + 282]

On 4/19/2020 at 4:52 AM, Tom Kirkman said:

Starting a thread to highlight the backlash against overly restrictive rules issued by elected representatives.  As an example of overly restrictive and arbitrary restrictions, here in Michigan, it is oddly prohibited to purchase garden seeds.  Madness. 

The time to stop this lockdown madness was back in January, 2020. But alas, the federal government is led by a guy who decided to go golfing and hold clap-for-me rallies with his merry band of red hat wearing morons, all while claiming Coronavirus was a liberal hoax not much worse than the common flu. Consequently, state governors had to step in and flatten the infection curve so it didn't go exponential. 

If you don't get the start of a pandemic right you wind up with stay-at-home orders. If you relax those stay-at-home orders you wind up with Americans dying on the floors of hospitals operating way beyond design capacity. If you really screw up the early response by not stocking up on personal protective equipment for your hospitals you wind up killing off your medical staff. 

So, if you don't like the stay-at-home orders get in your time machine and tell someone to tell Donald to resign in December 2019. You should probably also travel back to 2014 and tell the Tea Party idiots to fund the national stockpile of PPE. 

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

20 hours ago, UNC12345 said:

I really want to believe that this is just a big overreaction.  How do you explain though, what healthcare workers are going through?  I've never personally witnessed the things I'm seeing on TV.  And don't say this is a media thing.

New York City has very, very little auto traffic.  The big hospital over on the East Side of Manhattan has these refrigerated trailers out back, where the dead are stacked.  At night, the locals in the neighborhood apartment building listen to the thunk of the bodies being stacked inside the trailers - thunk, - thunk, - thunk, interminably, all night long, as the hundreds of dead are accumulated. 

That is demoralizing and depressing.  It is pushing some locals into looking at real estate in the rural areas, including upstate New York and Vermont and Maine.   For the workers in that hospital, it is very demoralizing, those are patients that they have lost to the disease.  It is hard on everyone near there, it is visceral, not on some TV screen with some commentator.  Nothing like a corpse being heaved into a truck to bring home what they are dealing with.   

[UNC12345 + 171]

After that post Jan, I am still interested to hear from others who have written that we have all overreacted, it's all a hoax and compared numbers to the seasonal flu.  How can you read the above and not think this is something more?  And this is with severe mitigation efforts in our communities...can you imagine what it would be like if we kept on acting as we usually do?

Having said that, I know we have to get back to life, but just don't push the idea that this is comparable to the flu!

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Playing the Devil’s Advocate....

So what is the point of following all of these Draconian mandates if, when it is all over, you have nothing to live for. You now no longer have a job, you can’t pay the note on the house or the car, you are going hungry and about to become homeless.

People who live in houses, or rurally, have no concept of the hardship of living in a small apartment under ‘house arrest’ conditions.

Also, I keep seeing nurses and first responders saying, ‘Stay at home’! Which is understandable, but keep in mind that they still have jobs and are NOT staying at home.

[footeab@yahoo.com + 2,190]

Simple: If over 65: Quarantine yourself.  Everyone else?  Go back to normal life and no, do not got see your old parents. 

Georgia is reopening as is most of the great plains states... of course most of them never shut down to begin with.  So, good on them for not being idiots.

[SUZNV + 1,197]

I read somewhere that there is a hypothesis that children have low mortality rate  than adult's because they always carry many virus within them. It is just like grasses and weeds, if grass grows fast enough, then less space and sunlight for weeds. If the influenza  infects cells faster than Covid19, then the covid19 has limited ground to grow.

Take VN as an example, they have 3 things that may reduce the spread and damage of Covid19: everybody wears mask (and gloves) because of the sun and air pollution and on their own motorbikes (minimum public transport), all got BCG vaccines, and lots of virus on them already with the dense population and pollution. If Covid19 can spread there, then it should spread even before Italy as they didn't (dare to) close the border with China and lots of Chinese were travelling around the country while Wuhan locked down.

It is social habits and the way people commute around everyday in big cities that decides the infection rate of Covid19. I cannot see the testing can help much in containing process if there was no symptom, even with test with accuracy of 100%.  We should develop habit of social distancing from now on, with masks.

In middle of March, one of my wife's coworker got sick and went to local hospital in MN for testing. After checking they gave him a paper said "likely flu" and asked him to go home and self quarantine for 2 weeks. He wasn't tested. So it was the clinic's decision to save the tests for critical cases or not. Should he complain to Trump :"they didn't give me the test" or "you are lying"?

Edited April 22, 2020 by SUZNV

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

1 hour ago, SUZNV said:

In middle of March, one of my wife's coworker got sick and went to local hospital in MN for testing. After checking they gave him a paper said "likely flu" and asked him to go home and self quarantine for 2 weeks. He wasn't test. So it was the clinic's decision to save the tests for critical cases or not. Should he complain to Trump :"they didn't give me the test" or "you are lying"?

Good one!  LOL!  Careful though, the Left may now look up your wife's coworker and get him/her to go on TV saying just that.  On the other hand, if he/she needs the cash......

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Comrade De Blasio’s Snitch Line Inundated with Dick Pics, Hitler Memes and People Flipping Him the Bird

Well, this wasn’t supposed to happen!

Last week socialist New York City Mayor Mayor Bill de Blasio told reporters New York City will not reopen until July or August AT THE EARLIEST!
That ought to be good for business!

Then on Saturday the commie mayor released a video encouraging his serfdom to snitch on their neighbors for breaking social distancing rules.
This is straight out of the Marxist playbook.

How do you report places that aren’t enforcing social distancing? It’s simple: just snap a photo and text it to 311-692. #AskMyMayor pic.twitter.com/WQdCcVf1Rl

— Mayor Bill de Blasio (@NYCMayor) April 18, 2020

But instead of snitching Comrade De Blasio’s snitch line has been inundated with dick pics, Hitler memes and people flipping him the bird!
The New York Post reported:

Mayor Bill de Blasio’s critics let him know how they really felt about him ordering New Yorkers to snitch on each other for violating social-distancing rules — by flooding his new tip line with crank complaints including “dick pics” and people flipping the bird, The Post has learned.

Photos of extended middle fingers, the mayor dropping the Staten Island groundhog and news coverage of him going to the gym have all been texted to a special tip line that de Blasio announced Saturday, according to screenshots posted on Twitter.

One user sent the message “We will fight this tyrannical overreach!” to the service and got an automated message that in part said, “Hello, and thank you for texting NYC311.”

Social-distancing complaints surge in NYC after de Blasio’s call for tips
“F–k you!” replied @Morgan******, along with a meme showing Adolf Hitler and the words “TO THOSE TURNING IN YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES — YOU DID THE REICH THING.”

 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

27 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Comrade De Blasio’s Snitch Line Inundated with Dick Pics, Hitler Memes and People Flipping Him the Bird

Well, this wasn’t supposed to happen!

Last week socialist New York City Mayor Mayor Bill de Blasio told reporters New York City will not reopen until July or August AT THE EARLIEST!
That ought to be good for business!

Then on Saturday the commie mayor released a video encouraging his serfdom to snitch on their neighbors for breaking social distancing rules.
This is straight out of the Marxist playbook.

How do you report places that aren’t enforcing social distancing? It’s simple: just snap a photo and text it to 311-692. #AskMyMayor pic.twitter.com/WQdCcVf1Rl

— Mayor Bill de Blasio (@NYCMayor) April 18, 2020

But instead of snitching Comrade De Blasio’s snitch line has been inundated with dick pics, Hitler memes and people flipping him the bird!
The New York Post reported:

Mayor Bill de Blasio’s critics let him know how they really felt about him ordering New Yorkers to snitch on each other for violating social-distancing rules — by flooding his new tip line with crank complaints including “dick pics” and people flipping the bird, The Post has learned.

Photos of extended middle fingers, the mayor dropping the Staten Island groundhog and news coverage of him going to the gym have all been texted to a special tip line that de Blasio announced Saturday, according to screenshots posted on Twitter.

One user sent the message “We will fight this tyrannical overreach!” to the service and got an automated message that in part said, “Hello, and thank you for texting NYC311.”

Social-distancing complaints surge in NYC after de Blasio’s call for tips
“F–k you!” replied @Morgan******, along with a meme showing Adolf Hitler and the words “TO THOSE TURNING IN YOUR NEIGHBORS AND LOCAL BUSINESSES — YOU DID THE REICH THING.”

 

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[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

Well, the inhabitants of the "overly restrictive" nations like Australia, some European states, can enjoy the luxurious privilege of being alive.

The "laizess-faire" "personal freedom" ideological camps like the USA, Britain, Sweden, etc. don't know where to bury their dead, USA having staggering number of fatalities, 35% of known cases. It's obvious that the absence of the universal healthcare system (US healthcare being designed to cater to the rich and empty the pockets of the rest) is a dangerous experiment indeed.

But you can always protest - you can drive the 5 tons SUV through the empty streets, honk the horn and shout "LIBERATE MINESOTA!". Liberate from whom? The residual traces of sanity?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Yoshiro, you seem to be on a roll and pretty hyper today.  Nice to see you aren't bored.

Lately I started mixing 2 scoops of decaf coffee with 2 scoops of regular.  Instead of my usual 4 scoops of caffeinated black buzz.

Just sayin.

[Jan van Eck + 7,558]

25 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Lately I started mixing 2 scoops of decaf coffee

I've had to go to straight decaf. It just snowed another two inches last night, and the street plows have a big mound at the entrance to the driveway, so if I go to "regular" I am liable to go bezerker, Norwegian style.  Gotta keep the lid on it.