Bad News For The Climate: Coal Burning, And Carbon Emissions, Are On The Rise Again

[Pavel + 384]

After three flat years that had hinted at a possible environmental breakthrough, carbon dioxide emissions from the use of energy rose again by 1.4 percent in 2017, according to new data released by the International Energy Agency. The increase in emissions of the all-important greenhouse gas came as global energy demand itself increased thanks to strong economic growth — and that demand was sated by all types of energy, including renewables but also oil, coal and natural gas. Most significant, the new report charges that there is still too much coal for the climate to handle, and change isn’t happening fast enough. Therefore, at the half-time of the game, the coal leads....

[damirUSBiH + 327]

Bad news for atmosphere, and for the future...For me this news was expected

[Petar + 76]

World has to invest in developing clean coal burning technology.  Can't just ignore coal reserves.

[damirUSBiH + 327]

1 minute ago, Petar said:

World has to invest in developing clean coal burning technology.  Can't just ignore coal reserves.

Why develop finite coal burning technology when we could develop infinite solar technology?

[Petar + 76]

3 minutes ago, damirUSBiH said:

Why develop finite coal burning technology when we could develop infinite solar technology?

I agree that the sun is apt to last longer than our coal supply, but I also think it a mistake to ignore coal reserves. And, it's my personal opinion. Do you agree or not with me - it doesn't matter...

[Pavel + 384]

Global Warming is here to stay - and someone will ask why Nor'easter, why hurricane, why.... Because of humans.

[franco + 96]

Yep. And Asia is " the leader": "The IEA said Asian countries accounted for two thirds of the global increase in emissions. China’s emissions rose by 1.7 percent to 9.1 gigatons, limited by renewables deployment and more rapid switching to gas from coal."

[Rodent + 1,424]

And I know it might be super uncool to point it out, but the US was one of the few countries whose CO2 emissions dipped. 

[Scooterdan64 + 1]

How can anybody tell what's going on with them spraying the atmosphere at high altitude? Remember the atmospheric heating project from the '50's, based in Platte ville Colo?

[Adam Varga + 123]

1 hour ago, Scooterdan64 said:

How can anybody tell what's going on with them spraying the atmosphere at high altitude? Remember the atmospheric heating project from the '50's, based in Platte ville Colo?

I'm not familiar with Platte ville project. Could you tell me more about it? 

[YXK + 10]

If the government really wanted to support renewables they should make coal companies pay for preventing the release of gases into the atmosphere. If this rule is imposed, I expect renewable energy stocks to jump quite a bit. It's time for our governments to look at renewable energy to supply our world's energy needs.

21 hours ago, Rodent said:

And I know it might be super uncool to point it out, but the US was one of the few countries whose CO2 emissions dipped. 

I guess that's what you'll expect from a developed country. Many countries like India or China are still not developed enough to think about the harm they're causing to this world.

[Rodent + 1,424]

On 3/22/2018 at 8:36 AM, Pavel said:

Global Warming is here to stay - and someone will ask why Nor'easter, why hurricane, why.... Because of humans.

Right. Let's just get rid of all the humans. Then the earth can be happy.

[WaytoPeace + 62]

Since there is no such thing as truly clean coal, the better alternative, if one is to use coal for power generation, is CO2 sequestration.  The problem is that this would increase the cost such that if it is passed on to the consumer it would raise electricity prices by 20-30%.  Natural gas produces half the greenhouse gas as does coal, provided methane release is controlled in the process, and therefore provides the best bridge source at the lowest cost.  Unfortunately, Asia doesn’t have enough natural gas, and coal fired power plants are cheaper to build to meet the rapidly growing demand for electricity in that part of the world.  

[agathon + 11]

EVERY POSTING in this thread is Utterly Completely Idiotic... except "Rodent".  And I love rats!!

To the others: I give you all the Master Of Blather Award.  You sit and spew from your keyboards all the puke you've been taught, drummed into your soft "virtuous" heads. You are all laughable.  Now..... go do the world a favor and actually use the VAST information resources out there to uncover what a farcical fraud the co2 & climate change fear-mongering is. It serves to gather support for super-national organizations like the UN and for fed. govt dependent ones like within EPA & NASA and political elements in academia & favored cronies in solar co's that couldn't survive w/o subsidy.  THAT is the classic defn of fascism. 

YOU all are the Pavlovian lemmings... feel better?  

The real air pollution in air & water... things like particulates, dioxins and sulphuric compounds, etc, have caused ACTUAL eco damage like acid rain, affecting water & forests. Old time EPA actually vastly mitigated that.  But Superfund sites have been ignored.  [this portion of text deleted by moderator] CO2 is _not_ a pollutant [this portion of text deleted by moderator]. And it's something like 0.0008 of the atmosphere... do you brilliant einsteins know the implication of that? No, you don't - and I won't explain it to you.

[this portion of text deleted by moderator]  

http://www.drroyspencer.com/
http://www.cfact.org/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/
http://www.climatedepot.com/
The Fraudulent 97% Consensus
https://dddusmma.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/the-fraudulent-97-consensus/

Obama administration neglected priorities to focus on climate change, new EPA chief says
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/25/scott-pruit-epa-administrator-says-obama-neglected/
Tim Ball - The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owm25OHGglk
Climate Change Hoax - exposed....
Dr Easterbrook: Exposes at Senate Hearing 3/26/2013
-- short 2-1/2 min. KEY SEGMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KLTQ3RJqw 

1989: U.S. Data Since 1895 Fail To Show Warming Trend
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/26/us/us-data-since-1895-fail-to-show-warming-trend.html

For the really uninitiated & ignorant... Climate Hustle - Documentary HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMGmwfsc7w

THE DREADED '''ALGOR''' IS BACK !!
All you need to know about this buffoon carnival barker...
1. 2009 Dec: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across the World Vanishing Quickly
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/dec2009/2009-12-14-02.html
https://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/al-gore-reports-snow-and-ice-across-the-world-vanishing-quickly/

2. But now... 2011: Gore now claims ‘increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with… man-made global warming’ ... But Gore never warned of looming 'heavy snowfalls' in his 2006 film
http://www.climatedepot.com/2011/02/01/internet-creator-gores-website-crashed-by-drudge-gore-now-claims-increased-heavy-snowfalls-are-completely-consistent-with-manmade-global-warming/

Unambiguous Fraud In The National Climate Assessment
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/11/unambiguous-fraud-in-the-national-climate-assessment/
William Happer "The Myth of Carbon Pollution"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSokHmURVBU
Scientists: ‘Loud Divergence Between Sea Level Reality And Climate Change Theory’
http://notrickszone.com/2017/10/30/reality-vs-theory-scientists-affirm-recent-lack-of-any-detectable-acceleration-in-sea-level-rise

Did the Obama White House Collude with a Politically Motivated Scientist? 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446505/judicial-watch-lawsuit-seeks-obama-white-house-records-controversial-global-warming
Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5◦C
18sep2017: Scientists concede that climate computer models have been invalid
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3031.epdf

NEW STUDY: GLOBAL WARMING STANDSTILL CONFIRMED, CLIMATE MODELS WRONG
https://www.thegwpf.com/new-study-global-warming-standstill-confirmed-climate-models-wrong/
Climate: D.Wojick's excellent article series!
The Natl Academy of Sciences teaches climate advocacy, not science
http://www.cfact.org/author/david-wojick-ph-d
The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Corruption-Climate-Science-ebook/dp/B00HXO9XGS/
No, hurricanes aren’t more frequent or severe
http://www.cfact.org/2017/09/12/no-hurricanes-arent-more-frequent-or-severe/
SolarCity and the Silver Spoon
http://www.cfact.org/2016/01/04/solarcity-and-the-silver-spoon/
NYT admits its front page climate article was (very) wrong
http://www.cfact.org/2017/08/10/nyt-admits-its-front-page-climate-change-article-was-very-wrong
Climate Models for the Layman with Dr. Judith Curry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjFjSZjv6w 

[agathon + 11]

7 hours ago, Rodent said:

Right. Let's just get rid of all the humans. Then the earth can be happy.

As per usual ... the Rodent rocks on.  Go, little mouse!

[Pavel + 384]

On 3/24/2018 at 4:05 AM, agathon said:

EVERY POSTING in this thread is Utterly Completely Idiotic... except "Rodent".  And I love rats!!

To the others: I give you all the Master Of Blather Award.  You sit and spew from your keyboards all the puke you've been taught, drummed into your soft "virtuous" heads. You are all laughable.  Now..... go do the world a favor and actually use the VAST information resources out there to uncover what a farcical fraud the co2 & climate change fear-mongering is. It serves to gather support for super-national organizations like the UN and for fed. govt dependent ones like within EPA & NASA and political elements in academia & favored cronies in solar co's that couldn't survive w/o subsidy.  THAT is the classic defn of fascism. 

YOU all are the Pavlovian lemmings... feel better?  

The real air pollution in air & water... things like particulates, dioxins and sulphuric compounds, etc, have caused ACTUAL eco damage like acid rain, affecting water & forests. Old time EPA actually vastly mitigated that.  But Superfund sites have been ignored.  All you "virtue signaling" KnowNothings are pathetic.  CO2 is _not_ a pollutant, you freaks. And it's something like 0.0008 of the atmosphere... do you brilliant einsteins know the implication of that? No, you don't - and I won't explain it to you.

Oh, yeah... almost forgot:  Pavel needs to get a life & stop spreading his bellybutton lint everywhere about the sky falling, without evidence.  Utterly embarrassing. Thanks in advance.  

 

Go ahead, Agathon ... Only sky is the limit.

[Cokiga Damke + 53]

On 3/23/2018 at 11:05 PM, agathon said:

EVERY POSTING in this thread is Utterly Completely Idiotic... except "Rodent".  And I love rats!!

To the others: I give you all the Master Of Blather Award.  You sit and spew from your keyboards all the puke you've been taught, drummed into your soft "virtuous" heads. You are all laughable.  Now..... go do the world a favor and actually use the VAST information resources out there to uncover what a farcical fraud the co2 & climate change fear-mongering is. It serves to gather support for super-national organizations like the UN and for fed. govt dependent ones like within EPA & NASA and political elements in academia & favored cronies in solar co's that couldn't survive w/o subsidy.  THAT is the classic defn of fascism. 

YOU all are the Pavlovian lemmings... feel better?  

The real air pollution in air & water... things like particulates, dioxins and sulphuric compounds, etc, have caused ACTUAL eco damage like acid rain, affecting water & forests. Old time EPA actually vastly mitigated that.  But Superfund sites have been ignored.  [this portion of text deleted by moderator] CO2 is _not_ a pollutant [this portion of text deleted by moderator]. And it's something like 0.0008 of the atmosphere... do you brilliant einsteins know the implication of that? No, you don't - and I won't explain it to you.

[this portion of text deleted by moderator]  

http://www.drroyspencer.com/
http://www.cfact.org/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/
http://www.climatedepot.com/
The Fraudulent 97% Consensus
https://dddusmma.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/the-fraudulent-97-consensus/

Obama administration neglected priorities to focus on climate change, new EPA chief says
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/25/scott-pruit-epa-administrator-says-obama-neglected/
Tim Ball - The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owm25OHGglk
Climate Change Hoax - exposed....
Dr Easterbrook: Exposes at Senate Hearing 3/26/2013
-- short 2-1/2 min. KEY SEGMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KLTQ3RJqw 

1989: U.S. Data Since 1895 Fail To Show Warming Trend
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/26/us/us-data-since-1895-fail-to-show-warming-trend.html

For the really uninitiated & ignorant... Climate Hustle - Documentary HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMGmwfsc7w

THE DREADED '''ALGOR''' IS BACK !!
All you need to know about this buffoon carnival barker...
1. 2009 Dec: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across the World Vanishing Quickly
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/dec2009/2009-12-14-02.html
https://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/al-gore-reports-snow-and-ice-across-the-world-vanishing-quickly/

2. But now... 2011: Gore now claims ‘increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with… man-made global warming’ ... But Gore never warned of looming 'heavy snowfalls' in his 2006 film
http://www.climatedepot.com/2011/02/01/internet-creator-gores-website-crashed-by-drudge-gore-now-claims-increased-heavy-snowfalls-are-completely-consistent-with-manmade-global-warming/

Unambiguous Fraud In The National Climate Assessment
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/11/unambiguous-fraud-in-the-national-climate-assessment/
William Happer "The Myth of Carbon Pollution"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSokHmURVBU
Scientists: ‘Loud Divergence Between Sea Level Reality And Climate Change Theory’
http://notrickszone.com/2017/10/30/reality-vs-theory-scientists-affirm-recent-lack-of-any-detectable-acceleration-in-sea-level-rise

Did the Obama White House Collude with a Politically Motivated Scientist? 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446505/judicial-watch-lawsuit-seeks-obama-white-house-records-controversial-global-warming
Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5◦C
18sep2017: Scientists concede that climate computer models have been invalid
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3031.epdf

NEW STUDY: GLOBAL WARMING STANDSTILL CONFIRMED, CLIMATE MODELS WRONG
https://www.thegwpf.com/new-study-global-warming-standstill-confirmed-climate-models-wrong/
Climate: D.Wojick's excellent article series!
The Natl Academy of Sciences teaches climate advocacy, not science
http://www.cfact.org/author/david-wojick-ph-d
The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Corruption-Climate-Science-ebook/dp/B00HXO9XGS/
No, hurricanes aren’t more frequent or severe
http://www.cfact.org/2017/09/12/no-hurricanes-arent-more-frequent-or-severe/
SolarCity and the Silver Spoon
http://www.cfact.org/2016/01/04/solarcity-and-the-silver-spoon/
NYT admits its front page climate article was (very) wrong
http://www.cfact.org/2017/08/10/nyt-admits-its-front-page-climate-change-article-was-very-wrong
Climate Models for the Layman with Dr. Judith Curry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjFjSZjv6w 

Mate, is someone shaking your cage?

[JohnAtronis + 78]

On 3/23/2018 at 11:05 PM, agathon said:

EVERY POSTING in this thread is Utterly Completely Idiotic... except "Rodent".  And I love rats!!

To the others: I give you all the Master Of Blather Award.  You sit and spew from your keyboards all the puke you've been taught, drummed into your soft "virtuous" heads. You are all laughable.  Now..... go do the world a favor and actually use the VAST information resources out there to uncover what a farcical fraud the co2 & climate change fear-mongering is. It serves to gather support for super-national organizations like the UN and for fed. govt dependent ones like within EPA & NASA and political elements in academia & favored cronies in solar co's that couldn't survive w/o subsidy.  THAT is the classic defn of fascism. 

YOU all are the Pavlovian lemmings... feel better?  

The real air pollution in air & water... things like particulates, dioxins and sulphuric compounds, etc, have caused ACTUAL eco damage like acid rain, affecting water & forests. Old time EPA actually vastly mitigated that.  But Superfund sites have been ignored.  [this portion of text deleted by moderator] CO2 is _not_ a pollutant [this portion of text deleted by moderator]. And it's something like 0.0008 of the atmosphere... do you brilliant einsteins know the implication of that? No, you don't - and I won't explain it to you.

[this portion of text deleted by moderator]  

http://www.drroyspencer.com/
http://www.cfact.org/
https://wattsupwiththat.com/
http://www.climatedepot.com/
The Fraudulent 97% Consensus
https://dddusmma.wordpress.com/2015/05/12/the-fraudulent-97-consensus/

Obama administration neglected priorities to focus on climate change, new EPA chief says
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/25/scott-pruit-epa-administrator-says-obama-neglected/
Tim Ball - The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Owm25OHGglk
Climate Change Hoax - exposed....
Dr Easterbrook: Exposes at Senate Hearing 3/26/2013
-- short 2-1/2 min. KEY SEGMENT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KLTQ3RJqw 

1989: U.S. Data Since 1895 Fail To Show Warming Trend
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/01/26/us/us-data-since-1895-fail-to-show-warming-trend.html

For the really uninitiated & ignorant... Climate Hustle - Documentary HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvMGmwfsc7w

THE DREADED '''ALGOR''' IS BACK !!
All you need to know about this buffoon carnival barker...
1. 2009 Dec: Gore Reports Snow and Ice Across the World Vanishing Quickly
http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/dec2009/2009-12-14-02.html
https://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2010/12/29/al-gore-reports-snow-and-ice-across-the-world-vanishing-quickly/

2. But now... 2011: Gore now claims ‘increased heavy snowfalls are completely consistent with… man-made global warming’ ... But Gore never warned of looming 'heavy snowfalls' in his 2006 film
http://www.climatedepot.com/2011/02/01/internet-creator-gores-website-crashed-by-drudge-gore-now-claims-increased-heavy-snowfalls-are-completely-consistent-with-manmade-global-warming/

Unambiguous Fraud In The National Climate Assessment
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/11/unambiguous-fraud-in-the-national-climate-assessment/
William Happer "The Myth of Carbon Pollution"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSokHmURVBU
Scientists: ‘Loud Divergence Between Sea Level Reality And Climate Change Theory’
http://notrickszone.com/2017/10/30/reality-vs-theory-scientists-affirm-recent-lack-of-any-detectable-acceleration-in-sea-level-rise

Did the Obama White House Collude with a Politically Motivated Scientist? 
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/446505/judicial-watch-lawsuit-seeks-obama-white-house-records-controversial-global-warming
Emission budgets and pathways consistent with limiting warming to 1.5◦C
18sep2017: Scientists concede that climate computer models have been invalid
https://www.nature.com/articles/ngeo3031.epdf

NEW STUDY: GLOBAL WARMING STANDSTILL CONFIRMED, CLIMATE MODELS WRONG
https://www.thegwpf.com/new-study-global-warming-standstill-confirmed-climate-models-wrong/
Climate: D.Wojick's excellent article series!
The Natl Academy of Sciences teaches climate advocacy, not science
http://www.cfact.org/author/david-wojick-ph-d
The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science
https://www.amazon.com/Deliberate-Corruption-Climate-Science-ebook/dp/B00HXO9XGS/
No, hurricanes aren’t more frequent or severe
http://www.cfact.org/2017/09/12/no-hurricanes-arent-more-frequent-or-severe/
SolarCity and the Silver Spoon
http://www.cfact.org/2016/01/04/solarcity-and-the-silver-spoon/
NYT admits its front page climate article was (very) wrong
http://www.cfact.org/2017/08/10/nyt-admits-its-front-page-climate-change-article-was-very-wrong
Climate Models for the Layman with Dr. Judith Curry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBjFjSZjv6w 

Pavel could be Russian troll for all I know

[agathon + 11]

3 hours ago, JohnAtronis said:

Pavel could be Russian troll for all I know

I say a soros-bot or some other product of someone's garage hobby fiddling....with definitely primitive, crude abilities. A prototype for sure.

[agathon + 11]

4 hours ago, Cokiga Damke said:

Mate, is someone shaking your cage?

yes... Some primate inmates escaped & temporarily got mischievous but it's okay now. The attendants rounded them up. Thanks for asking.

[ronwagn + 6,290]

Natural gas is the answer for affordable clean energy. It does not rely on subsidies. The only thing holding it back is that the oil companies find gasoline too profitable. Natural gas can fuel any ICE engine for cars, trucks, buses, locomotives, ships etc. 

See: https://docs.google.com/document/d/19Yf0MWpo91vrlu-mmJtjB1ERukjJo5W41oi4RZVQBug/edit