Tom Kirkman + 8,860 April 28, 2020 LDS - Lockdown Derangement Syndrome An irrational insistence to lock down the world in order to kill 90% of economies and totally destroy independent countries, so unelected globalist entities such as UN and WHO can come to the Socialism and Globalism "rescue". All due to a disease with a fatality rate between 1/10th of 1% to 1% in developed countries. Even less when looked at globally. LDS is irrational insanity. Just my opinion. But don't tell me that I am not allowed to disagree with Bill Gates. WHO the hell elected Bill Gates to become God? WHO the hell decided that Bill Gates gets to dictate the fate of the world? ================================================ Bill Gates Says Life Will Go Back to Normal No Sooner Than One to Two Years From Now As the spread of COVID-19 has slowed down in some states, governments there are preparing to loosen restrictions introduced amid the pandemic, reopening their economies and easing the quarantine regime. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said in an interview with France's Le Figaro that life will go back to normal after the new coronavirus pandemic no sooner than one to two years from now, even if the spread of the virus is put under control. "We are not going to return to normal for one to two years", the billionaire said. According to Gates, the world can get through that first stage of the pandemic by developing a system that will function "without the risk of returning to the exponential phase of epidemic progression". He went on to say that with systems of testing and monitoring, states will be able to quickly identify virus hotspots and keep them under control, but the average lifestyle will be drastically changed due to citizens' fears of contracting the disease. Gates also said that to return to normal life, "we will need either extremely effective treatment methods or a vaccine". Earlier, Gates told CNBC that the world wasn't even halfway through the pandemic, saying that it's going to take a while "before things go back to normal". The World Health Organisation declared COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic on 11 March. The virus was first registered in China's Hubei province last December, later spreading across the world. Overall, more than 3 million people have been infected with new coronavirus, and over 210,800 of them have died. ====================================================== Some basic math. Current world population is roughly 7.8 billion people. So far, roughly 210 thousand people have died from Covid - 19 and the overall new numbers of deaths are now declining. 7.8 billion people divided by 210 thousand deaths ... 7,800,000,000 people ÷ 210,000 Covid deaths = STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshiro Kamamura + 274 YK May 2, 2020 Just because you don't understand something, Tom, either because you don't want to or because you failed to study the topic in-depth, does not mean it's "irrational". Lockdowns and social distancing is a practice that has been used in times of pandemics for a long time, their effect is very well argued and explained. Everytime there is an expert community who agree on some practice and you as an outsider have the impression they got it all wrong (probably because it affects you in a way you don't like), it's time to step back and give it another thought - it's quite probably that they are right and it's you who overlooked something. And no, clumsily re-inventing the wheel by cherrypicking a few facts while ignoring others is not "independent thinking", true independent thinkers must respect all the facts, not just those that are convenient. By the way, Bill Gates foresaw this pandemic in 2015: 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M_Ali + 32 May 2, 2020 On 4/28/2020 at 8:52 AM, Tom Kirkman said: LDS - Lockdown Derangement Syndrome An irrational insistence to lock down the world in order to kill 90% of economies and totally destroy independent countries, so unelected globalist entities such as UN and WHO can come to the Socialism and Globalism "rescue". All due to a disease with a fatality rate between 1/10th of 1% to 1% in developed countries. Even less when looked at globally. LDS is irrational insanity. Just my opinion. But don't tell me that I am not allowed to disagree with Bill Gates. WHO the hell elected Bill Gates to become God? WHO the hell decided that Bill Gates gets to dictate the fate of the world? ================================================ Bill Gates Says Life Will Go Back to Normal No Sooner Than One to Two Years From Now As the spread of COVID-19 has slowed down in some states, governments there are preparing to loosen restrictions introduced amid the pandemic, reopening their economies and easing the quarantine regime. Microsoft co-founder Bill Gates said in an interview with France's Le Figaro that life will go back to normal after the new coronavirus pandemic no sooner than one to two years from now, even if the spread of the virus is put under control. "We are not going to return to normal for one to two years", the billionaire said. According to Gates, the world can get through that first stage of the pandemic by developing a system that will function "without the risk of returning to the exponential phase of epidemic progression". He went on to say that with systems of testing and monitoring, states will be able to quickly identify virus hotspots and keep them under control, but the average lifestyle will be drastically changed due to citizens' fears of contracting the disease. Gates also said that to return to normal life, "we will need either extremely effective treatment methods or a vaccine". Earlier, Gates told CNBC that the world wasn't even halfway through the pandemic, saying that it's going to take a while "before things go back to normal". The World Health Organisation declared COVID-19 outbreak a pandemic on 11 March. The virus was first registered in China's Hubei province last December, later spreading across the world. Overall, more than 3 million people have been infected with new coronavirus, and over 210,800 of them have died. ====================================================== Some basic math. Current world population is roughly 7.8 billion people. So far, roughly 210 thousand people have died from Covid - 19 and the overall new numbers of deaths are now declining. 7.8 billion people divided by 210 thousand deaths ... 7,800,000,000 people ÷ 210,000 Covid deaths = STATISTICALLY INSIGNIFICANT Tom, I'm afraid your basis math is wrong; 7,800,000,000 people ÷ 210,000 Covid deaths = 37,143 = that is very large number. the correct math is 210,000 ÷ 7,800,000,000 = 0.000027 = that's statistically insignificant But how does the US demand for $10M Blood Money per dead person for an estimated 66000 or so so far American victims of "Wuhan Virus" below grab your attention? 66000 X $10,000,000= $660,000,000,000 That is just about a strong enough compensation earth quake on Billion Dolor Richter scale to flatten the Trade Deficit Wall with CCP!! Mr Xi should take up that offer and run away with it because if the Texan Attroney filing a law suit for $16 Trillion in damages against CCP for its deliberate or incompetent role in Wuhan Virus Pandemic wins the day, Mr Xi must not only relinquish his trading surplus with US but also must pay the ultimate price his beloved motherland and declare all of China with the exception of Wuhan as the 53rd state of the Union and dismantle CCP, allowing Nancy and Donald set up their political offices in Beijing. We will see what Chinese Philosopher Confucius and Poet-Historian Du Fu have to say about that. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 2, 2020 44 minutes ago, M_Ali said: Tom, I'm afraid your basis math is wrong; < snip > You lost me. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M_Ali + 32 May 2, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said: You lost me. Tom, that's just a typo, I noticed it after posting my comment; "basic" is correct not "basis". And for the rest just follow the simple math also my latest thread might help to put you on the right track. Conspiracy Theory & Practice, "Wuhan Virus" False Flag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M_Ali + 32 May 2, 2020 10 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said: Just because you don't understand something, Tom, either because you don't want to or because you failed to study the topic in-depth, does not mean it's "irrational". Lockdowns and social distancing is a practice that has been used in times of pandemics for a long time, their effect is very well argued and explained. Everytime there is an expert community who agree on some practice and you as an outsider have the impression they got it all wrong (probably because it affects you in a way you don't like), it's time to step back and give it another thought - it's quite probably that they are right and it's you who overlooked something. And no, clumsily re-inventing the wheel by cherrypicking a few facts while ignoring others is not "independent thinking", true independent thinkers must respect all the facts, not just those that are convenient. By the way, Bill Gates foresaw this pandemic in 2015: YM you appear to be a student of the School of Billionaire's Philosophy. School of Athens (see below) gave the world the likes of Ptolemy, Plato and Aristotle, Renaissance and Enlightenment produced Descartes , John Lock, Voltaire and school of German philosophy gave the world Kant, Hegel, Marks, Nietzsche and Heidgger; The contemporary Western Entrepreneurial Culture has created Billionaire's School of Philosophy and "gifted" the world with the likes of Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Larry Ellison and Mark Zucherberg...., but here is the unpalatable truth; no one including you would have given a toss as to who the hell theses guys were? were it not for their wealth a product of labor of millions of other people very much unlike the ones mentioned above, no matter how "visionary" they may sell themselves to the stock market! May I remind you that Western social Philosophy is put in layman's plain language as "Money Talks, Bullshit Walks". So it must be quite clear by now as to what I'm getting at. So someone like Bill Gates - a Billionaire software vendor turned philanthropist then an epidemiologist/immunologist con-noissuer - would be the last person on Earth to give a lecture on the need for a "Socialist inspired" provision of global health care system backed by a whole lot of multiple layers of supporting technologies, health care expert, ...etc, ultimately ideally vaccinated by his propriety vaccine. What you so easily overlook is the fact that in Bill Gates's globalist frame of mind currently focused on a "benevolently developed anti virus vaccine" must be a patented product developed in the image of his MS Windows and seen as yet another instrument of global wealth and power domination. So he has strategically sided with UN/WHO, the likes of Dr Fauci a renowned immunologist (now denounced by some pissed off and off work vigilantist), has invested in big pharma, funded a multitude of related medical and media company with his financial muscle to achieve his globalist goal to gain access to the world vaccine market. Since when Bill Gate has become an Expert in the field of prediction and prevention of Global Virus / Microbes Pandemic and sees himself as a self appointed Prophet not for profit on a Messianic Mission (per Dr Robert F Kennedy jr) to save the poor people of the world?!!! If Bill Gates's Business Empire was in as a dire situation as Richard Branson's Airline is due to the nature and the impact of the Biological virus on air travel and trade, he would be busy negotiating with the Fed to save his own ass-ets rather than those of the poor people of the world. Even Olaf Palme's spirit is laughing in the face of Bill Gates's brand of benevolent and caring "Socialist" motivations, let alone that of Carl Marx. The School of Athens - Painting by Rafael The painting shows in the center the old master Plato with his right hand finger pointing vertically upwards (Heavens/Idealism)and the young student Aristotle with his right hand finger pointing forward horizontally (Earth/Materialism), surrounded by all the other great historical figures known to that time cognitively engaging themselves in fields of Ontology, Epistemology, Science, even War - note Alexander on the left The fresco adorns the wall of Apostolic Palace in Vatican. I'm sure the Billionaire Philosophers have their own favorite paintings of themselves on their mansions walls. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TooSteep + 142 IS May 6, 2020 Stockholm Syndrome: A condition in which hostages develop a psychological alliance with their captors during captivity. Lockdown Stockholm Syndrome: A psychological state of mind that causes its sufferers to come to love seeing their economies and liberties being destroyed, whilst simultaneously being incapable of accepting that Sweden kept its society going without resorting to such measures. http://www.theblogmire.com/lockdown-stockholm-syndrome/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
surrept33 + 609 st May 6, 2020 (edited) On 4/28/2020 at 2:52 AM, Tom Kirkman said: LDS - Lockdown Derangement Syndrome An irrational insistence to lock down the world in order to kill 90% of economies and totally destroy independent countries, so unelected globalist entities such as UN and WHO can come to the Socialism and Globalism "rescue". All due to a disease with a fatality rate between 1/10th of 1% to 1% in developed countries. Even less when looked at globally. LDS is irrational insanity. Just my opinion. But don't tell me that I am not allowed to disagree with Bill Gates. WHO the hell elected Bill Gates to become God? WHO the hell decided that Bill Gates gets to dictate the fate of the world? Of course you're allowed to disagree with Bill Gates. Having a robust debate is important. To defend Gates and his foundation, I think there has been a lot of undue attacks on his motivations. Some of the largest initiatives at the Gates foundation over the years had historically zero commercial value. It's stuff that have needed capital investment to fix, but since there has no money in it, it's hard to attract private sector money. IMHO, they've filled a very interesting niche because unlike a lot of public institutions, they try to drive these types of efforts with private-sector like efficiency and a thought to incentive creation in all the entrepreneurial efforts they fund. The person making money isn't Bill Gates. These things include, for example: Neglected Tropical Diseases like leprosy: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/what-we-do/global-health/neglected-tropical-diseases#bodyregion_0_interiorarticle_0_strategysections_2_strategysubsections45615201ec9a4a6f8b6ec35aec7d7911_2_lnkHeader and ending open defecation in India via innovative low cost sanitation: https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Where-We-Work/India-Office/Sanitation Edited May 6, 2020 by surrept33 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites