Coronavirus hype biggest political hoax in history

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

6 minutes ago, Hotone said:

It was directed at Tom, who mentioned that he had been researching on 4chan and other boards.

Tom mentioned it as a time reference as to when he began researching anonymous and unfiltered forums, not that he was researching the actual event. If you want to start a thread into mass shootings, I suggest that this is not the place for it.

[nstoika + 4]

It's clear that nothing adds up with this "TV show".

I learn a few things about USA and Media, they are there to divide us, but ANYTIME CNN/FOX/MSNBC...FEED THE SAME NARRATIVE special attention is need it because the fundaments of USA society or constitution are bypassed during this rare media synchronization.

I will remind a few of this rare event

Waco TX

WMD in Iraq

I can only speculate what's the reason for this  "Covid TV show" media synchronization but will be interesting to learn WHAT IS THE TARGET.

 

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

WMD in Iraq....are you saying there were not any, or that they were not found?

Ask the Kurds what they think....

[Hotone + 412]

3 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Tom mentioned it as a time reference as to when he began researching anonymous and unfiltered forums, not that he was researching the actual event. If you want to start a thread into mass shootings, I suggest that this is not the place for it.

No, not at all.  I am not interested in mass shootings.  Just that in this particular case, the MSM has never been able to disclose the motive.  I was curious as to whether the alternative sources could shed any light.

As to US gun culture, I am a little familiar with it.  I used to have a neighbour who served in the Marines Reserve and had seen action.  He explained this aspect of your culture to me and I still remember his example of how to deal with intruders who break into your house. I understand why you need to learn how to shoot and the importance of shooting to kill.

 Moreover one of his best friends operated a mercenary outfit.  The motto on his friend's name card was a quote by Ghengis Khan: 'The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters'

Edited May 11, 2020 by Hotone

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

3 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I have been told that I live in a red zone and for that reason DHL would not deliver a new TV to my residence.

I walk to the grocery store daily and have not seen an ambulance or medical presence in my neighborhood. There are no reports of infected people or deaths in my neighborhood....yet it is classified as a red zone.

It is situations such as this that make people question the whole virus/lockdown scenario being spouted.

Just a thought, but I believe you've had a collapse of government during this rather questionable lockdown.  Isn't that true?  Did the tentacles of the old massively corrupt regime reinstate themselves during a time when the citizenry "could not" rise up to protest?  Because I believe that is what it took to oust them the last time.  You would know far better than me, up over your Northern border.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Dan Warnick

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

This just in from the Gates Family:

Melinda Gates says Trump Administration's COVID response is 'costing lives'

(excerpt)

“If we had a good testing and tracing system like Germany has, we would have started to reopen slowly more places in the economy,” she said. “People wouldn't be struggling so much to put a meal on their table. The lack of action is really causing harm and hurt unnecessarily in this country. And I'm incredibly disappointed to see that.”

In addition to the $4 billion that the Foundation grants annually, some of which will go to fight COVID-19, the Gates have given an incremental $300 million to fight the disease.

“The 300 million specifically is going for diagnostics, therapeutics and vaccines making sure that the science is pushing forward and that that will come out as quickly as possible with industry,” Gates said.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

The Dems have come up with a new $2,000/per month payment (should be called re-distribution of wealth or taxpayer moneys) for everyone earning less than $120k/year.  BIG HIGHLIGHT:  Everyone gets it, including each child and, most ludicrous, even people without a Social Security Number!?!?

I suggest, if you watch the video, that you watch the 2nd follow-on video as well.  For some perspective.

Democratic senators propose $2,000 monthly payments to most Americans

[El Nikko + 2,145]

42 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

The Dems have come up with a new $2,000/per month payment (should be called re-distribution of wealth or taxpayer moneys) for everyone earning less than $120k/year.  BIG HIGHLIGHT:  Everyone gets it, including each child and, most ludicrous, even people without a Social Security Number!?!?

I suggest, if you watch the video, that you watch the 2nd follow-on video as well.  For some perspective.

Democratic senators propose $2,000 monthly payments to most Americans

You should see how much money is being thrown around by our 'conservative' government here Dan.

Free money for all and everyone loves it, shame they don't realise that governments don't have money of their own. One way or another we're going to pay through the nose for this.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

3 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Tom mentioned it as a time reference as to when he began researching anonymous and unfiltered forums, not that he was researching the actual event. If you want to start a thread into mass shootings, I suggest that this is not the place for it.

 

2 hours ago, Hotone said:

No, not at all.  I am not interested in mass shootings.  Just that in this particular case, the MSM has never been able to disclose the motive.  I was curious as to whether the alternative sources could shed any light.

 

 

I had been on unfiltered forums for years before the 2017 Las Vegas shootings, going back to the very first internet war on ars / usenet before 2000.  Later I was on 4chan for while, then migrated over to the slightly more "mainstream" Anonymous in 2008, and helped out with the initiative to assist kids in Iran bypass government censors and get their videos of Iranian government violent crackdowns onto YouTube around 2009.  Back in the 80s in my University days I was in a few Midwest hardcore punk bands; opened for Minor Threat back in the day.  (One of the guys stage diving at the beginning of the video is Steve Shelley, who was one of my roommates at the time and he went on to become the drummer for Sonic Youth).  Note that I have repeatedly commented about my activist / alternative / freedom of speech history before, on this forum, it's not a secret. 

Anyway, 2017 Las Vegas got me back firmly onto 4chan, before the chans got compromised.

As for "alternative sources", below is a nice, short summary of the stuff that Anons on 4chan were kicking around immediately following the 2017 Las Vegas shootings.  It was a pretty wild ride, digging into all sorts of stuff.  Al Waleed and guns and false flags oh my.

Note that this Las Vegas theory below involved Saudi Arabia / Saudi oil money.  And also please note that I was reading and digging on 4chan and Q long before I joined this Oil Price forum.

You asked for an "alternative narrative", here ya go, have a quick peek.  No, I'm not endorsing this version, just accommodating your request for "alternative" views:

 

WAS LAS VEGAS A SAUDI CROWN PRINCE SALMAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT?

CREDIT TO:  JoAnne Moretti – Proof Negative Radio Show: REAL Patriot News 11/6/17 (Archive Link) starts at 1hr 41 min into broadcast

Last night, I was on radio discussing the Las Vegas shooting and the connection to what is happening in Saudi Arabia.
They are connected.
I’ll start at the beginning.
There was a King Fasal who had a son, Prince Alwaleed, bin Talal.
King Fasal took ill and named his brother Salman as king in his place.
King Salman has named his son an heir to the throne, instead of his brother’s son Prince Al Waleed.
Al Waleed is a Wahabbi. Salman is Suni.
Wahabbi is extreme Islam.
Salman wanted a more modern, non extreme Islam for Saudi. That’s why he named his own son as heir.
In Las Vegas, Prince Al Waleed owned the upper floors of the Mandalay Bay resort, including the 32nd floor that was one of the points of shooting at the strip.
I say one of the places, because the witnesses were all correct. There were other locations too.
The Mandalay Bay has a heli-pad on the roof. That is important, because that was the escape route after the carnage.
Paddock was a pilot. He was also a gun runner between the Philippines and the US.
He was running guns for Prince Al Waleed.
He didn’t win at the casino. Those millions came from smuggling.
On the night of the attack, I found out that King Salman was in Las Vegas. (I didn’t know that part until after the show and I received a missing piece of info.)
Salman was at the Tropicana.

Paddock was victim one.
Others were used to shoot at the country music venue.
That was to create chaos and distract from the real target over at the Tropicana.
Al Waleed’s assassins shot from Mandalay bay, but they also were at the Tropicana trying to kill Salman.
That explains why there were shooters on the ground as well as in the air.
Remember the videos of the helicopter fly over.
I asked why a helicopter would be there when there was a shooter high up.
It wasn’t news, or cops.
It was the assassins who ran up the stairs to the roof from the 32nd floor.
Remember they sealed the door to the stairwell?
Paddock had access to the service elevator, because the boss said he could use the elevator.
Nobody questioned him.
Meanwhile the assassination attempt on Salman failed.
Now we are seeing the result of the failed attempt.
It was not only an assassination attempt and a terror attack, but an attempted coup in Saudi.
This is why everyone shut up in Las Vegas.
The response is still ongoing.
You are watching it play out.
As I said, I spoke on air about this.
I will post links in comments to prove my story.
Las Vegas was definitely a terror attack.
Al Waleed, the owner of the suite was who is behind all of it.
All the witnesses citing multiple shooters all told the truth.
There were shootouts along the strip and in Mandalay Bay & Tropicana hotels.
The reason nobody is talking is it’s not over yet. No automatic alt text available.

Credit to Nancy Kennedy for providing the missing link. (un-vetted information from 4chan)

There is a perfect helipad at the top of the Mandalay, right at the hub. Here is a pic from Google Earth.

 

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

23 minutes ago, El Nikko said:

You should see how much money is being thrown around by our 'conservative' government here Dan.

Free money for all and everyone loves it, shame they don't realise that governments don't have money of their own. One way or another we're going to pay through the nose for this.

They are using tax monies to pay for a shift in the social structure leading, they hope, towards more control over society through dependence.  I believe the Republican controlled Senate, in our case, will reject this package as it stands.  This is one more example, and there are many, of what people talk about when they voice concerns about the Democrat party taking control of 2/3 or more of the U.S. government.

IMHO 

[Jee + 27]

5 hours ago, 0R0 said:

It is a nasty virus, it is lethal to particular risk groups. I am in more than one of those. Fortunately, I am not in the double the risk group of people who had the flu vaccine. I did apparently contract the vile bug and treated it with colloidal silver to good effect, same as i do with other infections, to which I am very susceptible. 

I would want to retain the option of treating the disease with the existing treatment regimens, which are rather cheap. Unless you chose Remdesivir. Particularly HCQ/Z

Your challenge is foolish. Unless you are in NYC or Detroit your chance of dying if you contract the virus and are under 65 is fairly low - as much as dying from the flu or pneumonia - or a traffic accident. If there were no risk in anything, there would be no insurance. 

 

If it is low risk in areas you have in mind, would you be so kind to offer yourself as a volunteer in their hospital/ER for treating cover patients? After all it seems you already have a comprehensive low risk treatment plan which Jesus will have you with, so why don't you show some courage and help out our frontline workers? You can deliver meals, mob the floor, clean the toilets for covid19 patients and what not. Go be a volunteer and post some pictures back here so we know you aren't just talking no doing?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

2 hours ago, Hotone said:

As to US gun culture, I am a little familiar with it.  I used to have a neighbour who served in the Marines Reserve and had seen action.  He explained this aspect of your culture to me and I still remember his example of how to deal with intruders who break into your house.  Moreover one of his best friends operated a mercenary outfit.  The motto on his friend's name card was a quote by Ghengis Khan: 'The greatest happiness is to vanquish your enemies, to chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth, to see those dear to them bathed in tears, to clasp to your bosom their wives and daughtersThe greatest pleasure is to vanquish your enemies and chase them before you, to rob them of their wealth and see those dear to them bathed in tears, to ride their horses and clasp to your bosom their wives and daughters.' 

Updated version

[Jee + 27]

5 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I have been told that I live in a red zone and for that reason DHL would not deliver a new TV to my residence.

I walk to the grocery store daily and have not seen an ambulance or medical presence in my neighborhood. There are no reports of infected people or deaths in my neighborhood....yet it is classified as a red zone.

It is situations such as this that make people question the whole virus/lockdown scenario being spouted.

There is a simple way to get to the bottom, and you can do it. Just walk to your local ER/hospital where they treat covid19 patients, talk to the nurse/doctor and see for yourself. You can also volunteer there, help dispose covid19 patients body waste is a job that should be done by those who believe "it's a hoax", if it's a bloody hoax why don't you do the heavy lifting and give the frontline workers a break? You just hide behind the brave ones of this country and BS with your computer I think.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

14 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

WAS LAS VEGAS A SAUDI CROWN PRINCE SALMAN ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT?

CREDIT TO:  JoAnne Moretti – Proof Negative Radio Show: REAL Patriot News 11/6/17 (Archive Link) starts at 1hr 41 min into broadcast

Last night, I was on radio discussing the Las Vegas shooting and the connection to what is happening in Saudi Arabia.

So, MbS's people immediately alert the FBI who place calls to Washington and the orders go out to cover for and protect the Saudi Royal Family?  Seems plausible. 

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

1 minute ago, Jee said:

There is a simple way to get to the bottom, and you can do it. Just walk to your local ER/hospital where they treat covid19 patients, talk to the nurse/doctor and see for yourself. You can also volunteer there, help dispose covid19 patients body waste is a job that should be done by those who believe "it's a hoax", if it's a bloody hoax why don't you do the heavy lifting and give the frontline workers a break? You just hide behind the brave ones of this country and BS with your computer I think.

< sigh >

Douglas, please be gentle, he's new here.  Being inventive in comebacks can fun.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

2 hours ago, Dan Warnick said:

Just a thought, but I believe you've had a collapse of government during this rather questionable lockdown.  Isn't that true?  Did the tentacles of the old massively corrupt regime reinstate themselves during a time when the citizenry "could not" rise up to protest?  Because I believe that is what it took to oust them the last time.  You would know far better than me, up over your Northern border.

As Tom will tell you, I need to be very careful what I say on a forum such as this...if you catch my drift.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

4 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said:

So, MbS's people immediately alert the FBI who place calls to Washington and the orders go out to cover for and protect the Saudi Royal Family?  Seems plausible. 

Video - Future Saudi King Escorted Out Of Tropicana During Las Vegas Massacre

https://d.tube/#!/v/clarityofsignal/q18086py

This highly interesting and unique video filmed on the night of the October 1, 2017 Las Vegas Mass Shooting Event shows a group of armed guards telling patrons at the Tropicana Hotel to get their arms up as a highly protected person is escorted through the casino. It is widely believed by online researchers that the man being escorted wearing the white shirt and pink sneakers is the future king / crown prince of Saudi Arabia Prince Salman. Conspiracy analysts across the web are speculating that, quite possibly, the mass shooting event at the Mandalay Bay Hotel was actually a diversion and coverup for the attempted assassination of the future Saudi Arabian king who was not at the hotel, but reportedly out on-the-town disguised in civilian attire in order to avoid notice.

In the wake of recent events in Saudi Arabia, rumors in regards to such are being disseminated across social media and online platforms.

More information related to the current chaotic events in Saudi Arabia is available here:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/876832/Saudi-Arabia-King-Salman-ruler-Prince-Mohammed-bin-Salman

Saudi Arabia’s King to 'stand down and hand power to son after purging' rivals

KING Salman is reportedly preparing to make his son Prince Mohammed bin Salman the ruler of Saudi Arabia in a shock move following a corruption purge, reports claim.  ...

[Jee + 27]

And Tom K, I also encourage you to volunteer where you live, do you need help find the appropriate hospital/ER for treating covid19 patients, so you can go there and show them your theories, help out, and be a doer?

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

Just now, Douglas Buckland said:

As Tom will tell you, I need to be very careful what I say on a forum such as this...if you catch my drift.

Stay safe there Douglas.  You are wise in choosing your words carefully.  Dan, you should already be aware of the difficulty in discussing certain "sensitive" topics in SE Asia.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

10 minutes ago, Jee said:

And Tom K, I also encourage you to volunteer where you live, do you need help find the appropriate hospital/ER for treating covid19 patients, so you can go there and show them your theories, help out, and be a doer?

I've actually been to the local hospital here repeatedly during the lockdown.  I've volunteered to drive an older person back and forth for a weekly appointment / exam at the hospital for a long term medical condition, totally unrelated to Covid. 

If this person contracts Covid, this person already knows there is little chance of survival, as this person has significant, long term medical issues.

The regional hospital here is an absolute ghost town.  Empty.  Many medical staff on "temporary" layoffs.  Parking lot is mostly deserted.  This hospital is the regional hospital for a large number of communities, the only hospital around.  Empty.

You seem to think I am an idiot.

And that amuses me.

Carry on.

 

[Jee + 27]

9 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

I've actually been to the local hospital here repeatedly during the lockdown.  I've volunteered to drive an older person back and forth for a weekly appointment / exam at the hospital for a long term medical condition, totally unrelated to Covid. 

If this person contracts Covid, this person already knows there is little chance of survival, as this person has significant, long term medical issues.

The regional hospital here is an absolute ghost town.  Empty.  Many medical staff on "temporary" layoffs.  Parking lot is mostly deserted.  This hospital is the regional hospital for a large number of communities, the only hospital around.  Empty.

You seem to think I am an idiot.

And that amuses me.

Carry on.

 

Tom K, it seems to me you need help find the APPROPRIATE hospital/ER for treating covid 19, what do you try to prove by going to a ghosted place? Go to ground 0 would you? I will do you a favor, if you tell us here the town you live in, I will personally search for you the nearest COVID19 treatment facility to you, so you can demonstrate your theories in real life, how about that.

Edited May 11, 2020 by Jee

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

2 minutes ago, Jee said:

Tom K, it seems to me you need help find the APPROPRIATE hospital/ER for treating covid 19, what do you try to prove by going to a ghosted place? Go to ground 0 would you? I will do you a favor, if you tell us here the town you live in, I will personally search for you the nearest COVID19 treatment facility to you, so you can demonstrate your theories in real life, how about that.

Nope.  Please don't tell me what to do, you are starting to annoy me.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

16 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Stay safe there Douglas.  You are wise in choosing your words carefully.  Dan, you should already be aware of the difficulty in discussing certain "sensitive" topics in SE Asia.

Oh yes, I am.  You will notice I don't speak ill of my hosts.  I can see that my question to Douglas was insensitive to his surroundings; Thankfully he is under no obligation to respond.  Objectionable questions do get the attention of the jury though.

It would never be my intention to bring undo attention to another forum member, or anyone else for that matter.

[Tom Kirkman + 8,860]

NJ Health Commissioner Judy Persichilli giving the order to send COVID-19 positive patients back to long-term care facilities after the hospital discharges them.

Half of NJ's deaths occurred in long-term care facilities aka nursing homes.

PDF of this document can be downloaded here:

https://www.nj.gov/health/healthfacilities/documents/CN/temp_waivers/HospitalDischarges_andAdmissions_toPost-AcuteCareSettings.pdf

That ^ PDF attached below:

HospitalDischarges_andAdmissions_toPost-AcuteCareSettings.pdf

 

[Jee + 27]

1 minute ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Nope.  Please don't tell me what to do, you are starting to annoy me.

Keep telling us it's hoax, your stupidity is equally hilarious as your cowardness.