Coronavirus hype biggest political hoax in history

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On 5/15/2020 at 2:45 AM, Douglas Buckland said:

I’m guess that those folks represent mainstream America.

While I was just waiting for an elevator here in KL, I was the only moron with a mask! Everybody else thought this whole lockdown/mask stuff was BS.

Actually, I do too....Believe it or not I was actually trying to follow the rules and be PC for once.

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

9 minutes ago, Tom Kirkman said:

Exactly!!!👍🏻

[El Nikko + 2,145]

Delingpole: Killing the Elderly In Care Homes to Save the NHS. Nice Work, Boris!

  AP Photo/Matt Rourke

James Delingpole

19 May 20201

5:18

“Kill the Oldies. Save the NHS.” Perhaps Boris Johnson should think of adopting this for his next slogan because it’s what his government has done. In fact, it’s the second most scandalous aspect of his record so far in dealing with the Chinese coronavirus.

The scandal, essentially, is this: on March 19 the UK government issued an order to the NHS quickly to clear out 15,000 patients to make way for the expected surge in patients with Covid-19. Many of these were elderly patients who had nowhere to go save care homes.  Some of these patients were already infected with coronavirus and instead of being isolated — as they should have been — they were instead sent to the very place where they were likely to do the most damage: residential homes full of people in the worst at-risk category.

So far, more than 8,000 people have died in care homes with Covid-19. This represents around a quarter of the total coronavirus deaths in the UK so far. We cannot be sure how many of these deaths can be attributed to the government’s panicked decision to dump elderly patients from hospitals into care homes. But the government undoubtedly bears a degree of culpability.

Health Secretary Matt Hancock is currently denying responsibility.

Last week, he told a press conference:

“Right from the start we’ve tried to throw a protective ring around our care homes. We set out our first advice in February… we’ve made sure care homes have the resources they need”.

But as Richard North points out at EU Referendum, this is simply untrue.

He notes that as late as April 2, the government was blithely insisting ‘that patients with Covid-19, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic, could be safely accepted in care homes.’

Here is the official document that proves it.

It says:

As part of the national effort, the care sector also plays a vital role in accepting patients as they are discharged from hospital – both because recuperation is better in non-acute settings, and because hospitals need to have enough beds to treat acutely sick patients. Residents may also be admitted to a care home from a home setting. Some of these patients may have COVID-19, whether symptomatic or asymptomatic. All of these patients can be safely cared for in a care home if this guidance is followed.

As North says:

Not by any imagining, and not in any conceivable way could it be said that the Department of Health or the NHS tried to throw a “protective ring” around care homes.

Quite to the contrary, the NHS hospitals sought to protect themselves from being “overwhelmed”, by the simple expedient of dumping thousands of vulnerable patients onto the care sector, spreading the infection to thousands of others who were least able to defend themselves from it.

North is right on this one, though not, I think, on the bigger picture. Unlike him, I believe the lockdown should end immediately because I don’t think there is sufficient evidence to justify this extraordinary assault on liberty nor all the wanton damage that is being done to the economy.

But I’m glad he is driving home with his characteristic subtlety, charm and wit just how badly the government has been dealing with the pandemic.

It seems a fairly basic point that if care homes are the location for the most at-risk category of people vulnerable to coronavirus then far more thought should have been given to protecting them.

Almost every government has made mistakes in its response to the coronavirus pandemic. Even Sweden — increasingly praised for its non-lockdown policy which enabled it to build herd immunity while doing less damage to its economy — has admitted that it should have done more to protect the elderly in care homes.

But mistakes are only forgivable when governments fess up and show evidence that they’ve learned from them.

Hancock’s insistence in that interview that the government has done nothing wrong suggests that Britain is still run by an administration far more interested in covering its arse than in doing the right thing.

The same point was made more eloquently at the weekend by former Supreme Court judge Lord Sumption, when he wrote in the Sunday Times:

The lockdown is now all about protecting politicians’ backs. They are not wicked men, just timid ones, terrified of being blamed for deaths on their watch. But it is a wicked thing that they are doing.

Sumption also makes the point that the government’s priorities are all wrong:

The lockdown was originally justified as a temporary measure to spread coronavirus infections over a longer period. This was to allow time for the NHS’s critical care capacity to catch up. Hence the slogan ‘Protect the NHS’

It was never much of a rationale. The NHS is there to protect us, not the other way round.

It used to be said that however disappointing Boris Johnson and his crew might turn out to be, at least Britain dodged the far bigger bullet at the last election of being run by the dilapidated Marxist Jeremy Corbyn.

But I’m not sure this is true any more. At least if Corbyn had been in charge right now, there would have been a Conservative opposition ready to hold him to account, calling for the end of the lockdown, warning of the grave damage being done to the economy, and so on.

Instead, we voted Conservative and just got incompetent socialism all the same.

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On 5/11/2020 at 10:43 PM, Chin U. Kim said:

if you have a chance to read https://medium.com/@yurideigin/lab-made-cov2-genealogy-through-the-lens-of-gain-of-function-research-f96dd7413748

it seems to be a man-made virus more than a naturally created one.

You joined the 11th May and you have jsut posted this since ...🤔

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On 5/12/2020 at 6:20 AM, Ward Smith said:

As soon as I busted Jim for referring to France as "there" he disappeared and this troll immediately showed up. Coincidence? I think not. 

I'm French I never claimed otherwise.
If you think you "busted" me you're delusionnal.
Sorry if you mlssed me..😘

 

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On 5/12/2020 at 5:45 AM, Radha said:

Jee looks like a reincarnation of Mr. Jim Profit who disappeared as soon as he arrived.

Same parroting approach. Jee, with all due respects, you are wasting your time here. We think for ourselves and don't

blindly follow those who repeat the official MSM lies. We know you are not open minded to find the truth, so we

will not waste any time responding to you anymore.

Says the account who only joined a little bit earlier, seemingly only to spread propaganda and health disinformation..
Pot calling the kettle black. Again looking at server logs IP could reveal some interesting facts..

The tolerance for anti-science bullshit is so high on this board.. 

I mean look at this post.. "Curing" covid-19 with natural remedies..🤦‍♂️

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/12930-the-president-and-the-plague/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-104707

 

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The US Social Media is siding with China controlled WHO and shuts down all voices that are questioning WHO. They want the US lockdowns to continue endlessly and US economy will be destroyed. All because they hate Trump so much. This is treason. They should go to jail.

Candace Owens

@RealCandaceO

· 14h

THREAD: This week, in light of discovering that Facebook has granted a former @CNN editor of 26 years, “fact-checker” status to censor and ban conservative accounts, I engaged Covington Catholic lawyer @ToddMcMurtry to go after @Facebook...

[Radha + 262]

Jim, we were so happy when you were gone....

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

6 minutes ago, Jim Profit said:

Says the account who only joined a little bit earlier, seemingly only to spread propaganda and health disinformation..
Pot calling the kettle black. Again looking at server logs IP could reveal some interesting facts..

The tolerance for anti-science bullshit is so high on this board.. 

I mean look at this post.. "Curing" covid-19 with natural remedies..🤦‍♂️

https://community.oilprice.com/topic/12930-the-president-and-the-plague/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-104707

 

It’s not difficult to be ‘anti-science’ when there is no consensus among the scientists as to what the science actually is!

Try saying that three times quickly!😂

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

26 minutes ago, Radha said:

The US Social Media is siding with China controlled WHO and shuts down all voices that are questioning WHO. They want the US lockdowns to continue endlessly and US economy will be destroyed. All because they hate Trump so much. This is treason. They should go to jail.

Candace Owens

 

@RealCandaceO

· 14h

THREAD: This week, in light of discovering that Facebook has granted a former @CNN editor of 26 years, “fact-checker” status to censor and ban conservative accounts, I engaged Covington Catholic lawyer @ToddMcMurtry to go after @Facebook...

They did this with the Hillary campaign.  They get themselves so over-invested, what with their claims that it MUST be this way or else.  And then they are proven wrong, so they spend the next years extricating themselves until the next ZOMG Crisis comes along.  When will they ever learn?

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

2 hours ago, Radha said:

The US Social Media is siding with China controlled WHO and shuts down all voices that are questioning WHO. They want the US lockdowns to continue endlessly and US economy will be destroyed. All because they hate Trump so much. This is treason. They should go to jail.

Candace Owens

 

@RealCandaceO

· 14h

THREAD: This week, in light of discovering that Facebook has granted a former @CNN editor of 26 years, “fact-checker” status to censor and ban conservative accounts, I engaged Covington Catholic lawyer @ToddMcMurtry to go after @Facebook...

As I posted in another thread, Follow WHO recommendations if you want to kill your populations. The country doing the best beating this virus is excluded from WHO. Coincidence? Meanwhile medical doctors are getting banned from YouTube for not genuflecting at the WHO altar. Because Co conspirators. 

[El Nikko + 2,145]

Care homes' soaring death rate blamed on 'reckless' order to take back Covid-19 patients

The number of Covid-19 deaths in care homes was estimated by Care England to have reached 7,500 a week ago

By Katherine Rushton and Sophie Barnes 24 April 2020 • 9:16pm

Care providers accused the Government of “reckless” behaviour which had “significantly” increased the number of coronavirus deaths in care homes Credit: Stefan Rousseau/PA 

A Government diktat that NHS hospitals should move hundreds of elderly patients to care homes has been branded “reckless” and blamed for the homes’ soaring coronavirus death rates.

In two damning policy documents published on 19 March and 2 April, officials told NHS hospitals to transfer any patients who no longer required hospital level treatment, and set out a blueprint for care homes to accept patients with Covid-19 or who had not even been tested.

Analysis by the Telegraph suggests that the rate of coronavirus deaths accelerated more than twice as fast in care homes than in hospitals in the week beginning 7 April - two and a half weeks after the first policy document was published.  

The number of Covid-19 deaths in care homes was estimated by Care England to have reached 7,500 a week ago, the Government is under pressure to start publishing a daily tally of coronavirus-related deaths in care homes.

Under the government guidance, patients who tested positive for coronavirus were allowed to be sent from hospitals to care homes. The second document states that “Negative tests are not required prior to transfers / admissions into the care home.”

It added that coronavirus patients could be “safely cared for” as long as care home staff adhered to certain procedures, but that patients who had not been tested and showed no symptoms could be cared for “as normal”.

A Whitehall official told the Telegraph that the policy to offload hospital patients was designed as a “stiff broom” to free up capacity in hospitals.

But care providers on Friday accused the Government of “reckless” behaviour which had “significantly” increased the number of coronavirus deaths in care homes.

Dr Jamie Wilson, founder of Hometouch, which provides care to people in their own homes, said: “I’m astonished at the lack of foresight of these policies. To mandate that care homes should take back Covid-positive patients with such a high risk of cross infection and high mortality rate in vulnerable residents seems unfathomable.”

A Department of Health and Social Care spokesperson said: “Social care is on the frontline of our fight against coronavirus and the safety of staff and residents is our top priority."

The spokesperson added that they had updated the rules so that all care home residents discharged from hospital will be tested.  

[El Nikko + 2,145]

The disgusting details can be found in this government document.

In a normal world heads should roll but some how I don't think it will happen. I think the bizzare clapping we have every Thursday night at 8pm is probably not a grassroots thing and was probably orchestrated. Anyone who dares critisise the new religion of the NHS will be ostracised by society.

Feels a little like Eastern Germany before the Berlin wall came down doesn't it?

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/884263/admission-and-care-of-residents-during-covid-19-incident-in-a-care-home.pdf

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3 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

It’s not difficult to be ‘anti-science’ when there is no consensus among the scientists as to what the science actually is!

Try saying that three times quickly!😂

It may be time for you to learn what scientific consensus is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus

"Curing" covid-19 with natural remedies is charlatanism.

Judy Mikovits and Del Bigtree are charlatans disseminating diangerous pseudo-scientific disinformation.

They are harming people.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

[Ward Smith + 6,615]

51 minutes ago, Jim Profit said:

It may be time for you to learn what scientific consensus is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_consensus

"Curing" covid-19 with natural remedies is charlatanism.

Judy Mikovits and Del Bigtree are charlatans disseminating diangerous pseudo-scientific disinformation.

They are harming people.

https://www.cdc.gov/measles/cases-outbreaks.html

Vous faites toujours semblant d'être en France?

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

3 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Vous faites toujours semblant d'être en France?

Yeah!  What Ward said!

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15 minutes ago, Ward Smith said:

Vous faites toujours semblant d'être en France?

This is an english speaking forum.

Do you think you are some sort of supersmart intelligence analyst or are you just trying to sow confusion ?

Are you delusional or malicious ?

Anyway as stated before I think IP addresses used by the different accounts would certainly reveal many interesting facts, at least people using multiple accounts.. Maybe people using VPN or connecting from unexpected countries. I know what it would show about me as I post almost everything from my residential internet access, and I live in France.

Thanks for the entertainment.

[Jim Profit + 46]

The epidemiology of misinformation

The disturbing story of how the web is weaving weird connections between hippies, Nazis, Russian agents and the rest of us to spread lies about Covid-19

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/science-and-technology/epidemiology-misinformation-coronavirus-covid19-conspiracy-theory

 

[El Nikko + 2,145]

More censorship

 

[El Nikko + 2,145]

Nice work around 😂

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

8 hours ago, Jim Profit said:

This is an english speaking forum.

Do you think you are some sort of supersmart intelligence analyst or are you just trying to sow confusion ?

Are you delusional or malicious ?

Anyway as stated before I think IP addresses used by the different accounts would certainly reveal many interesting facts, at least people using multiple accounts.. Maybe people using VPN or connecting from unexpected countries. I know what it would show about me as I post almost everything from my residential internet access, and I live in France.

Thanks for the entertainment.

I believe that earlier you indicated that I should “learn what scientific consensus is”, as if you were the authority on the subject and the ‘sharpest knife in the drawer’. That borders on arrogance.

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4 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said:

I believe that earlier you indicated that I should “learn what scientific consensus is”, as if you were the authority on the subject and the ‘sharpest knife in the drawer’. That borders on arrogance.

Sometimes I  take at face value things that weren't meant to be taken seriously. Must be some kind of autistic trait.

I read such a quantity of ludicrious and nonsensical things here... that affects my judgment.

I suspect was unfair and needessly harsh to you, I apologize.

That said I'm probably an arrogant person.

Edited May 20, 2020 by Jim Profit

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

Okay, although Jim is doing his best to drive some of us nuts, we need to give credit where credit is due, he is actually using his real name (I assume) and he has told us he is in France. He has not used some infantile moniker....this is a good start.

From his picture (again assuming it is him), he’s got one hell of a hairdo! I’m jealous, I ‘grew through my hair’ years ago!😂

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20 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

Okay, although Jim is doing his best to drive some of us nuts, we need to give credit where credit is due, he is actually using his real name (I assume) and he has told us he is in France. He has not used some infantile moniker....this is a good start.

From his picture (again assuming it is him), he’s got one hell of a hairdo! I’m jealous, I ‘grew through my hair’ years ago!😂

Jim Profit is a character from the "Profit" series (1996). That's a picture of him in the series. I'm older and way less handsome than Adrian Pasdar at the time..

Thank you for your kind words.

Edited May 20, 2020 by Jim Profit

[Douglas Buckland + 6,308]

38 minutes ago, Jim Profit said:

Jim Profit is a character from the "Profit" series (1996). That's a picture of him in the series. I'm older and way less handsome than Adrian Pasdar at the time..

Thank you for your kind words.

Oh well.... I thought you were using your real name. Obviously I don’t watch much TV...😂