Yoshiro Kamamura + 274 YK May 15, 2020 World looks on in horror as Trump flails over pandemic despite claims US leads way The president’s outlandish behavior as Americans suffer has inspired horror and confusion while alienating allies The Trump administration has repeatedly claimed that the US is “leading the world” with its response to the pandemic, but it does not seem to be going in any direction the world wants to follow. Across Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, views of the US handling of the coronavirus crisis are uniformly negative and range from horror through derision to sympathy. Donald Trump’s musings from the White House briefing room, particularly his thoughts on injecting disinfectant, have drawn the attention of the planet. “Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger,” the columnist Fintan O’Toole wrote in the Irish Times. “But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.” The US has emerged as a global hotspot for the pandemic, a giant petri dish for the Sars-CoV-2 virus. As the death toll rises, Trump’s claims to global leadership have became more far-fetched. He told Republicans last week that he had had a round of phone calls with Angela Merkel, Shinzo Abe and other unnamed world leaders and insisted “so many of them, almost all of them, I would say all of them” believe the US is leading the way. None of the leaders he mentioned has said anything to suggest that was true. At each milestone of the crisis, European leaders have been taken aback by Trump’s lack of consultation with them – when he suspended travel to the US from Europe on 12 March without warning Brussels, for example. A week later, politicians in Berlin accused Trump of an “unfriendly act” for offering “large sums of money” to get a German company developing a vaccine to move its research wing to the US. The president’s abrupt decision to cut funding to the World Health Organization last month also came as a shock. The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, a former Spanish foreign minister, wrote on Twitter: “There is no reason justifying this move at a moment when their efforts are needed more than ever to help contain & mitigate the coronavirus pandemic.” A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith. A survey this week by the British Foreign Policy Group found 28% of Britons trusted the US to act responsibly on the world stage, a drop of 13 percentage points since January, with the biggest drop in confidence coming among Conservative voters. Dacian Cioloș, a former prime minister of Romania who now leads the Renew Europe group in the European parliament, captured a general European view this week as the latest statistics on deaths in the US were reported. “Post-truth communication techniques used by rightwing populism movements simply do not work to beat Covid-19,” he told the Guardian. “And we see that populism cost lives.” Around the globe, the “America first” response pursued by the Trump administration has alienated close allies. In Canada, it was the White House order in April to halt shipments of critical N95 protective masks to Canadian hospitals that was the breaking point. The Ontario premier, Doug Ford, who had previously spoken out in support of Trump on several occasions, said the decision was like letting a family member “starve” during a crisis. “When the cards are down, you see who your friends are,” said Ford. “And I think it’s been very clear over the last couple of days who our friends are.” In countries known for chronic problems of governance, there has been a sense of wonder that the US appears to have joined their ranks. Esmir Milavić, an editor at Bosnia’s N1 TV channel, told viewers this week: “The White House is in utter dysfunction and doesn’t speak with one voice.” Milavić said: “The vice-president is wearing a mask, while the president doesn’t; some staffers wear them, some don’t. Everybody acts as they please. As time passes, White House begins to look more and more like the Balkans.” After Trump’s disinfectant comments, Beppe Severgnini, a columnist for Italy’s Corriere della Sera, said in a TV interview: “Trying to get into Donald Trump’s head is more difficult than finding a vaccine for coronavirus. First he decided on a lockdown and then he encouraged protests against the lockdown that he promoted. It’s like a Mel Brooks film.” In several countries, the local health authorities have felt obliged to put out statements to counter “health advice” coming from the White House, concerning the ingestion of disinfectant and taking hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug found to be ineffective against Covid-19 and potentially lethal. The Nigerian government put out a warning that there is no “hard evidence that chloroquine is effective in prevention or management of coronavirus infection” after three people were hospitalised from overdosing on the drug in Lagos. It was not enough to prevent a fivefold increase in the price of the drug, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Trump’s decision not to take part in a global effort to find a vaccine, and his abrupt severance of financial support to the WHO at the height of the pandemic, added outrage and prompted complaints that the US was surrendering its role of global leadership. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-response-world-leaders 2 1 3 9 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoshiro Kamamura + 274 YK May 15, 2020 Well, well, not even Nigerians are taking the hydrochloroquite hoax seriously - the masters of hoaxes themselves. 2 3 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pisstol + 48 TF May 16, 2020 The rest of the world is flailing about exactly like Trump. That is to say, there was no need to shut the economy down anywhere because of the virus. And there was no need to give free money or bailouts. If you look at https://www.worldometers.info/ you will see that the world population is rapidly increasing. Where is your sense of decency, Yoshiro? I beg you: Leave the virus alone. 3 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff May 16, 2020 No, not every nation is flailing. But true, yours is the worst. Well, you get what you vote for. $6 trillion bail out so far, with none of it spent on a solution; simply to keep the wealth of the 1%. Well, you get what you pay for. As you slave away to pay your debts and taxes, think about whom you are really supporting. When the covid strikes you in the second wave, do let us know how you fare. 2 2 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 Stocks falling bad need more bail out money! 1 1 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,554 May 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said: World looks on in horror as Trump flails over pandemic despite claims US leads way The president’s outlandish behavior as Americans suffer has inspired horror and confusion while alienating allies The Trump administration has repeatedly claimed that the US is “leading the world” with its response to the pandemic, but it does not seem to be going in any direction the world wants to follow. Across Europe, Asia, Africa and Latin America, views of the US handling of the coronavirus crisis are uniformly negative and range from horror through derision to sympathy. Donald Trump’s musings from the White House briefing room, particularly his thoughts on injecting disinfectant, have drawn the attention of the planet. “Over more than two centuries, the United States has stirred a very wide range of feelings in the rest of the world: love and hatred, fear and hope, envy and contempt, awe and anger,” the columnist Fintan O’Toole wrote in the Irish Times. “But there is one emotion that has never been directed towards the US until now: pity.” The US has emerged as a global hotspot for the pandemic, a giant petri dish for the Sars-CoV-2 virus. As the death toll rises, Trump’s claims to global leadership have became more far-fetched. He told Republicans last week that he had had a round of phone calls with Angela Merkel, Shinzo Abe and other unnamed world leaders and insisted “so many of them, almost all of them, I would say all of them” believe the US is leading the way. None of the leaders he mentioned has said anything to suggest that was true. At each milestone of the crisis, European leaders have been taken aback by Trump’s lack of consultation with them – when he suspended travel to the US from Europe on 12 March without warning Brussels, for example. A week later, politicians in Berlin accused Trump of an “unfriendly act” for offering “large sums of money” to get a German company developing a vaccine to move its research wing to the US. The president’s abrupt decision to cut funding to the World Health Organization last month also came as a shock. The EU’s foreign policy chief, Josep Borrell, a former Spanish foreign minister, wrote on Twitter: “There is no reason justifying this move at a moment when their efforts are needed more than ever to help contain & mitigate the coronavirus pandemic.” A poll in France last week found Merkel to be far and away the most trusted world leader. Just 2% had confidence Trump was leading the world in the right direction. Only Boris Johnson and Xi Jinping inspired less faith. A survey this week by the British Foreign Policy Group found 28% of Britons trusted the US to act responsibly on the world stage, a drop of 13 percentage points since January, with the biggest drop in confidence coming among Conservative voters. Dacian Cioloș, a former prime minister of Romania who now leads the Renew Europe group in the European parliament, captured a general European view this week as the latest statistics on deaths in the US were reported. “Post-truth communication techniques used by rightwing populism movements simply do not work to beat Covid-19,” he told the Guardian. “And we see that populism cost lives.” Around the globe, the “America first” response pursued by the Trump administration has alienated close allies. In Canada, it was the White House order in April to halt shipments of critical N95 protective masks to Canadian hospitals that was the breaking point. The Ontario premier, Doug Ford, who had previously spoken out in support of Trump on several occasions, said the decision was like letting a family member “starve” during a crisis. “When the cards are down, you see who your friends are,” said Ford. “And I think it’s been very clear over the last couple of days who our friends are.” In countries known for chronic problems of governance, there has been a sense of wonder that the US appears to have joined their ranks. Esmir Milavić, an editor at Bosnia’s N1 TV channel, told viewers this week: “The White House is in utter dysfunction and doesn’t speak with one voice.” Milavić said: “The vice-president is wearing a mask, while the president doesn’t; some staffers wear them, some don’t. Everybody acts as they please. As time passes, White House begins to look more and more like the Balkans.” After Trump’s disinfectant comments, Beppe Severgnini, a columnist for Italy’s Corriere della Sera, said in a TV interview: “Trying to get into Donald Trump’s head is more difficult than finding a vaccine for coronavirus. First he decided on a lockdown and then he encouraged protests against the lockdown that he promoted. It’s like a Mel Brooks film.” In several countries, the local health authorities have felt obliged to put out statements to counter “health advice” coming from the White House, concerning the ingestion of disinfectant and taking hydroxychloroquine, an anti-malarial drug found to be ineffective against Covid-19 and potentially lethal. The Nigerian government put out a warning that there is no “hard evidence that chloroquine is effective in prevention or management of coronavirus infection” after three people were hospitalised from overdosing on the drug in Lagos. It was not enough to prevent a fivefold increase in the price of the drug, which is also used to treat lupus and rheumatoid arthritis. Trump’s decision not to take part in a global effort to find a vaccine, and his abrupt severance of financial support to the WHO at the height of the pandemic, added outrage and prompted complaints that the US was surrendering its role of global leadership. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/15/donald-trump-coronavirus-response-world-leaders Edited May 16, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open 3 4 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 May 16, 2020 (edited) The governments everywhere are flailing because they were acting like headless chickens when the virus hit was confirmed. It was obvious that it would hit. They planned badly, The US did badly as well. Flying blind without tests because of CDC and FDA power games, which you can also interpret as deliberate sabotage. The WHO acted as a Chinese mouthpiece and its efforts in coordinating vaccine and treatment development are thus suspect. They may be just as well making sure that there is no vaccine or treatment to pass trials. It is typical for example of the NIH and FDA to structure trials and experiments by selecting patients for trial that can't react to a low cost treatment in order to keep away competition from a new patented drug. There is no reason for any European nation to support the WHO and collaborate with it. Its actions as a CCP sycophant disqualify it from any degree of trust. They know better than that. Trump was suckered into the lockdown guidelines. It was a mistake. He is trying to get out of it without having to admit that he was taken in by the establishment - aka "the swamp" - in their role as CCP shills and paid saboteurs and political enemies. Edited May 16, 2020 by 0R0 3 7 6 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KeyboardWarrior + 527 May 16, 2020 2 hours ago, frankfurter said: No, not every nation is flailing. But true, yours is the worst. Well, you get what you vote for. $6 trillion bail out so far, with none of it spent on a solution; simply to keep the wealth of the 1%. Well, you get what you pay for. As you slave away to pay your debts and taxes, think about whom you are really supporting. When the covid strikes you in the second wave, do let us know how you fare. Try managing 350 million while maintaining a reasonable death rate. Try having politicians on your side of the spectrum telling people to go outside and enjoy themselves without fear of the virus (New York). Try recovering your industry as fast as America will, and try to kill unemployment faster than we will. It's not going to happen under Biden, that's for sure. 3 1 2 5 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 (edited) The world have negative views on Trump is perfectly understandable. Their mainstream just use US mainstream as sources, and I am sure every country's citizens and government, they love to hear another country in trouble politically or economically, maybe except US citizens don't seem to care about EU, which is strange to me. POTUS doesn't do lock down for cities or states. State Governors do because they are responsible for their states and President cannot fire Governors. Blaming Trump for states' failures is just similar to blaming Ursula von der Leyen for Italian Covid19's deaths. Each US state have their own healthcare and tax system, and their own economy, similarly to each EU member. And for people who say Trump should concentrate on Covid19 instead of Obama gate or Joe, precisely how do you suggest him to concentrate in anything if you are constantly attacking him? Should he read the statistics everyday or making policy,? How many states listen to him and relax the lock down order? Should Trump make an executive order to pass the next stimulus without the Congress to pass it? Is that the president's job? Bush and Obama both have critics on them as they didn't stop their vacations on national disasters while Trump at least is working harder than any of them in this Covid19. And I am sick of people compares EU presidents/prime ministers to US President while all of the countries have their own problems and even Obama was performing better in economics performance than most of big EU leaders. I just don't understand their mindset. I have never heard any one in the US talk bad/good about an EU leader, they just don't care. Did US own anything from EU? Feel free to make your own countries great again if you have a better government or leader. If President Trump is a clown, how about Secretary Xi? Scary Strategic Partner? EU even soften report about Covid19 cover up in China, bravely. And they didn't even listen to Trump cancel the 5G deals. China is biggest debtor of World Bank. The interest China has to pay is 1%. In BRI grand projects, each countries are borrowing from China with the interest rate of 6%. WTO cannot enforce the law when China breaks it. So who are clowns? Edited May 16, 2020 by SUZNV 2 4 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 Of course US leads, look at the death toll: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/accurate-us-coronavirus-death-count-experts-off-tens/story?id=70385359 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 (edited) There are 2 trends. While EU leaders try to keep their Covid19 deaths number down (by didn't count people deaths by other diseases), US governors inflate the deaths number by count all the deaths regardless of Covid19 is the main reason or not. What is the US population compare to Italy? UK? France? Spain? How about using the statistics correctly, deaths per million? And it is disgusting to use death numbers, which is a tragedy for each family, for political gain or to bash someone you don't like. If Trump did good and not many people dead, then he would be blamed for economics damage. Else he would be blamed for the deaths toll. Cult of the mainstream zombies & liberal & dem. I did not vote for Trump but I am pushed to his supporter side because I have good immunization to mainstream virus, which surely only infect people with short term memory and hate. They simply repeat what mainstream told them, as if only they understand what mainstream is talking about. Edited May 16, 2020 by SUZNV 2 2 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 If MSM excludes Fox News, you can get your daily medicine here: https://www.foxnews.com/health/nyc-coronavirus-deaths-underreported-cdc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Jee said: If MSM excludes Fox News, you can get your daily medicine here: https://www.foxnews.com/health/nyc-coronavirus-deaths-underreported-cdc I don't need anyone to copy and past the link for me to read. Do you even know the different between President and CDC? Federal and States? Deaths and deaths per millions? Are you too stupid to avoid these arguments and all you can do is copy and paste the link? Even a bot can do that so what is your value? Edited May 16, 2020 by SUZNV 1 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 Just now, SUZNV said: I don't need anyone to copy and past the link for me to read. Do you even know the different between President and CDC? Federal and States? Deaths and deaths per millions? Are you too stupid to avoid these argument and all you can do is copy and paste the link? Even a bot can do that. I need a bot to bark like you, think like you, and paste like you, corporate America's best TROLL. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jee said: I need a bot to bark like you, think like you, and paste like you, corporate America's best TROLL. Your mainstream owned by Corporate, FYI. And I don't need a bot to bark while you need one. So how is your brain? Edited May 16, 2020 by SUZNV 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 Just now, SUZNV said: Your mainstream owned by Corporate, FYI. Now Fox News I just quoted, it's owned by a J guy. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Jee said: Now Fox News I just quoted, it's owned by a J guy. Go ahead and do your best insulting for Fox News. I couldn't care less. So Fox is anti-corporate news? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 Just now, SUZNV said: Go ahead and do your best insulting for Fox News. I couldn't care less. So Fox is anti-corporate news? You should ask Sean Hannity, he can relate you to Trump. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUZNV + 1,197 May 16, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jee said: You should ask Sean Hannity, he can relate you to Trump. We are different. Unlike you, I don't worship mainstream or offstream, news are simply news, bias or not . And I have to google to know who is Sean Hannity. But I don't like to have short conversation with random name coming up, so congratulations, you are the first in my ignore list. Too bad you didn't put me in your list. I don't think I will miss you. Edited May 16, 2020 by SUZNV 2 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jee + 27 JD May 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, SUZNV said: We are different. Unlike you, I don't worship mainstream or offstream, news are simply news, bias or not . And I have to google to know who is Sean Hannity. But I don't like to have short conversation with random name coming up, so congratulations, you are the first in my ignore list. Too bad you didn't put me in your list. I don't think I will miss you. Tunnel vision has made its evolution on you. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 May 16, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, 0R0 said: The governments everywhere are flailing because they were acting like headless chickens when the virus hit was confirmed. It was obvious that it would hit. They planned badly, The US did badly as well. Flying blind without tests because of CDC and FDA power games, which you can also interpret as deliberate sabotage. The WHO acted as a Chinese mouthpiece and its efforts in coordinating vaccine and treatment development are thus suspect. They may be just as well making sure that there is no vaccine or treatment to pass trials. It is typical for example of the NIH and FDA to structure trials and experiments by selecting patients for trial that can't react to a low cost treatment in order to keep away competition from a new patented drug. There is no reason for any European nation to support the WHO and collaborate with it. Its actions as a CCP sycophant disqualify it from any degree of trust. They know better than that. Trump was suckered into the lockdown guidelines. It was a mistake. He is trying to get out of it without having to admit that he was taken in by the establishment - aka "the swamp" - in their role as CCP shills and paid saboteurs and political enemies. The US has the best scientists in the world. In the past the US led the world in terms of response to infectious disease prevention. Indeed it is such a tragedy what is happening and what is predicted to happen in America. Can America return to sensible governance instead of hubris of its political leadership? Please let the health professionals, scientists and smart people lead this fight against the pandemic. This is the view from Asia. From MSNBC: Edited May 16, 2020 by Hotone 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Jee said: Tunnel vision has made its evolution on you. So proud to get the last word, when there's nobody there.... 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 May 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said: World looks on in horror as Trump flails over pandemic despite claims US leads way LOL! You still don't get it, do you @Yoshiro Kamamura? Hillary and her crowd lost the election for President because they cared too much what the rest of the world thinks, and ignored large swathes of Americans. Donald Trump WON the election because he and his crowd don't care what the rest of the world thinks. So, you've got to ask yourself: Do you think we care what you think? 1 5 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 May 16, 2020 3 hours ago, Jee said: Of course US leads, look at the death toll: https://abcnews.go.com/Health/accurate-us-coronavirus-death-count-experts-off-tens/story?id=70385359 Could have something to do with the size of the population...🤔 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 May 16, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Dan Warnick said: LOL! You still don't get it, do you @Yoshiro Kamamura? Hillary and her crowd lost the election for President because they cared too much what the rest of the world thinks, and ignored large swathes of Americans. Donald Trump WON the election because he and his crowd don't care what the rest of the world thinks. So, you've got to ask yourself: Do you think we care what you think? Before the 2016 election, one of my American colleagues, a resident of Illinois, told me that he was going to vote for Trump. He told me that he was a lifelong Democrat, but couldn't vote for Hillary. Then I watched this video, and knew that Trump would win. Even now, it seems like a lot of Americans still have this 'F U' attitude towards a lot of perceived wrongs. Edited May 16, 2020 by Hotone 2 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites