frankfurter + 562 ff May 30, 2020 14 hours ago, 0R0 said: You have deliberately taken the statement out of context, as the end of the sentence explains the first. Being the racist that you are, you have deflected outwards on others, as is appropriate for this emotional disorder. You continue in showing your disease in deflecting the null voice of the Chinese in their own system. The Western system not only allows individuals to speak to power, it allows them to FORM power, political trends and countertrends and politics eventually follows despite many efforts to resist. In the US, people speak to their representatives at the national level and at the state level and municipal and county levels. This very much affects how the politicians vote at the grass roots level. The leaderships of the parties and the bureaucracy do their best to do the steering rather than be steered by the public mood, but they are only capable of doing so to a limited extent. Eventually the rank and file politicians will deny support to the leadership if their vocal home district folks won't have it. In America, the average citizen is not consulted, those who care TELL the politicians where they need to go in order to gain their support. Considering that you come out of a system with nothing but power and no consultative processes within it, I doubt that you can identify what goes on in a democratic system. It just seems like chaos to you. Yes, the politicians and the bureaucracy always try to remove the checks on their power and expand their authority while shrugging off responsibility. When it becomes too much, they hear about it. FDR created a labor and bureaucracy system that was very oppressive and corrupt - similar to a Soviet system, yet his party lost soon after his death, and the process of tearing apart his construct continued for decades, interrupted by Democratic congresses. We have been here before. China is at a dead end till the CCP collapses along with the economy. Do your people a favor and hasten the arrival of that day. Throw a CCP official out the window. You are free to express your views. But you will be held to account for them. Your words respecting China are written plainly in black and white, thus have you revealed your true character. To the accusation of anti-semite, clearly you know not what is a Semite. People like you use this term whenever you cannot comprehend and deny the truth. Thus you reveal your level of intelligence. Certainly, you reveal your indoctrination. Certainly, you use your race and indoctrination to smear others. The statements I made in the other post you allude are PROVEN by the text in the Bible itself, in the very books the Jews of today claim as their Torah. Since when is quoting from the bible an act of anti-semitism or any other anti-ism? If your position will hold, then the entire Christian faith is anti-semitic. YOU stated the Jews are matrilinial, and you rejected the patrilinial. Here, in black and white, for you and all the other ignoramuses in this forum, is the Biblical text revealing how Judah procreated: Genesis KJV ..... Genesis 38:1 "And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah." 38:2 "And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her." 38:3 "And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er." 38:4 "And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 38:5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him." Thus, the bible itself proves the progeny of Judah are matrilinial to a Canaanite. And the science of genetics proves this unequivocally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralfy + 55 May 30, 2020 22 hours ago, Ward Smith said: "For years, the Chinese had conducted their foreign policy through the tribute system, in which foreign powers wishing to trade with China were required first to bring a tribute to the emperor, acknowledging the superiority of Chinese culture and the ultimate authority of the Chinese ruler. Unlike China’s neighbors, the European powers ultimately refused to make these acknowledgements in order to trade, and they demanded instead that China adhere to Western diplomatic practices, such as the creation of treaties. Although the unequal treaties and the use of the most-favored-nation clause were effective in creating and maintaining open trade with China, both were also important factors in building animosity and resentment toward Western imperialism." Also: "Unlike Great Britain, the United States agreed that anyone involved in the opium trade or the smuggling of contraband would be prosecuted under Chinese law, but, with that exception, the treaty allowed for other Americans in China to be afforded the benefits of extraterritoriality" Also, from https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm Quote The agreements reached between the Western powers and China following the Opium Wars came to be known as the "unequal treaties" because in practice they gave foreigners privileged status and extracted concessions from the Chinese. Ironically, the Qing Government had fully supported the clauses on extraterritoriality and most-favored nation status in the first treaties in order to keep the foreigners in line. This treaty system also marked a new direction for Chinese contact with the outside world. For years, the Chinese had conducted their foreign policy through the tribute system, in which foreign powers wishing to trade with China were required first to bring a tribute to the emperor, acknowledging the superiority of Chinese culture and the ultimate authority of the Chinese ruler. Unlike China's neighbors, the European powers ultimately refused to make these acknowledgements in order to trade, and they demanded instead that China adhere to Western diplomatic practices, such as the creation of treaties. Although the unequal treaties and the use of the most-favored-nation clause were effective in creating and maintaining open trade with China, both were also important factors in building animosity and resentment toward Western imperialism. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 May 30, 2020 15 hours ago, ralfy said: Also, from https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm Yes, thanks. I'd meant to add the link later but didn't get around to it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD May 30, 2020 (edited) 19 hours ago, frankfurter said: But you will be held to account for them. Sweety pie... Held to account for them? Please explain what ever do you mean? Where is this account? Does it have money in it? Will my ATM card work? Does this mean you'll be 'held to account' for your anti-American views? So angry.... just like Hitler right? Big hug Edited May 30, 2020 by Strangelovesurfing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD May 30, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, frankfurter said: Certainly, you reveal your indoctrination. Certainly, you use your race and indoctrination to smear others. Now, now, thats quite a bit of projecting your currently doing. What race is ORO Franky? By his picture his race appears to be K9! Looks like everything you wrote down is straight from the CCP playbook on how it propagandizes the Chinese people. Movie theater's are closed at the moment you might want to turn off your projector. Edited May 30, 2020 by Strangelovesurfing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD May 30, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, frankfurter said: you and all the other ignoramuses in this forum Weren't you just claiming a few posts ago how members on this forum insult you without provocation? I know, I know, the CCP doesn't allow you to have 'critical thinking' skills so it all just degenerates into anger when you're confronted with your own hypocrisies and your mind doesn't know how to process it. I had the same issue when I was 10 yeas old. Edited May 30, 2020 by Strangelovesurfing 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 May 31, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 9:15 PM, frankfurter said: You are free to express your views. But you will be held to account for them. Your words respecting China are written plainly in black and white, thus have you revealed your true character. To the accusation of anti-semite, clearly you know not what is a Semite. People like you use this term whenever you cannot comprehend and deny the truth. Thus you reveal your level of intelligence. Certainly, you reveal your indoctrination. Certainly, you use your race and indoctrination to smear others. The statements I made in the other post you allude are PROVEN by the text in the Bible itself, in the very books the Jews of today claim as their Torah. Since when is quoting from the bible an act of anti-semitism or any other anti-ism? If your position will hold, then the entire Christian faith is anti-semitic. YOU stated the Jews are matrilinial, and you rejected the patrilinial. Here, in black and white, for you and all the other ignoramuses in this forum, is the Biblical text revealing how Judah procreated: Genesis KJV ..... Genesis 38:1 "And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah." 38:2 "And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her." 38:3 "And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er." 38:4 "And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 38:5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him." Thus, the bible itself proves the progeny of Judah are matrilinial to a Canaanite. And the science of genetics proves this unequivocally. The matrilinear tradition dates after the Assyrian conquest of Israel. You are the racist. You have an antisemitic agenda on top of your normal racist Chinese nationalist narrative of a world perpetually slighting you. You are a disgusting person working to spread the lies of the disgusting Chinese Communist bandits. I gave a statement strongly critical of the CCP suppressing the voice of the Chinese people, and you turn it into a racist diatribe. You are either lying or incapable of reading whole sentences. Get yourself a new mission in life to free your people from the tyranny of Xi and his CCP. Throw a CCP official out the window. I am sure you can find your boss ant toss him out by Tuesday. 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 May 31, 2020 On 5/30/2020 at 9:15 AM, frankfurter said: You are free to express your views. But you will be held to account for them. Your words respecting China are written plainly in black and white, thus have you revealed your true character. To the accusation of anti-semite, clearly you know not what is a Semite. People like you use this term whenever you cannot comprehend and deny the truth. Thus you reveal your level of intelligence. Certainly, you reveal your indoctrination. Certainly, you use your race and indoctrination to smear others. The statements I made in the other post you allude are PROVEN by the text in the Bible itself, in the very books the Jews of today claim as their Torah. Since when is quoting from the bible an act of anti-semitism or any other anti-ism? If your position will hold, then the entire Christian faith is anti-semitic. YOU stated the Jews are matrilinial, and you rejected the patrilinial. Here, in black and white, for you and all the other ignoramuses in this forum, is the Biblical text revealing how Judah procreated: Genesis KJV ..... Genesis 38:1 "And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah." 38:2 "And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her." 38:3 "And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er." 38:4 "And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 38:5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him." Thus, the bible itself proves the progeny of Judah are matrilinial to a Canaanite. And the science of genetics proves this unequivocally. And now Hotdog is an expert in theology! Will wonders never cease! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff May 31, 2020 5 hours ago, Douglas Buckland said: And now Hotdog is an expert in theology! Will wonders never cease! True, For those of limited intelligence, the Bible is a wondrous collection. A man living in the sky and heavens above. A man can live in the belly of a whale. A man who walked upon water. And many more tales beyond imagination. Difficult to challenge such stories and to believe them. But billions of people believe such stories, and some define their very existence by them, and commit murder by them. Thus the stories are of rather great importance to the peaceful co-existence of peoples globally. The text above is taken verbatim from the Bible. So, which part are you having difficulty to comprehend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 May 31, 2020 1 hour ago, frankfurter said: True, For those of limited intelligence, the Bible is a wondrous collection. A man living in the sky and heavens above. A man can live in the belly of a whale. A man who walked upon water. And many more tales beyond imagination. Difficult to challenge such stories and to believe them. But billions of people believe such stories, and some define their very existence by them, and commit murder by them. Thus the stories are of rather great importance to the peaceful co-existence of peoples globally. The text above is taken verbatim from the Bible. So, which part are you having difficulty to comprehend? All religions are taken on faith, there is no proof available for any of them. If you choose to not embrace any religion, that is your choice. To label those who do as being of ‘limited intelligence’ is the epitomy of arrogance. Can you, without any doubt, say for a fact that there is no God? Can you prove that creationism is fantasy? If you cannot, then why do you poke fun at religious folks? 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tom Kirkman + 8,860 May 31, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 2:23 AM, frankfurter said: Fact: the attacks upon me were started by members of this forum, not to mention all the libel. I am simply responding in kind. No, that is incorrect. You have a long history of deliberate sh*t-stirring on this forum. You remain free to spout your viewpoints, and others remain free to call you out on your obvious biases.. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff May 31, 2020 4 hours ago, Tom Kirkman said: No, that is incorrect. You have a long history of deliberate sh*t-stirring on this forum. You remain free to spout your viewpoints, and others remain free to call you out on your obvious biases.. Respectfully, no, you are incorrect. I quoted the Bible verbatim. For this, I am labelled an anti-semite, which in your country is highly inflammatory. As such insult is received, so it is returned. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 May 31, 2020 On 5/29/2020 at 6:15 PM, frankfurter said: You are free to express your views. But you will be held to account for them. Your words respecting China are written plainly in black and white, thus have you revealed your true character. To the accusation of anti-semite, clearly you know not what is a Semite. People like you use this term whenever you cannot comprehend and deny the truth. Thus you reveal your level of intelligence. Certainly, you reveal your indoctrination. Certainly, you use your race and indoctrination to smear others. The statements I made in the other post you allude are PROVEN by the text in the Bible itself, in the very books the Jews of today claim as their Torah. Since when is quoting from the bible an act of anti-semitism or any other anti-ism? If your position will hold, then the entire Christian faith is anti-semitic. YOU stated the Jews are matrilinial, and you rejected the patrilinial. Here, in black and white, for you and all the other ignoramuses in this forum, is the Biblical text revealing how Judah procreated: Genesis KJV ..... Genesis 38:1 "And it came to pass at that time, that Judah went down from his brethren, and turned in to a certain Adullamite, whose name was Hirah." 38:2 "And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her." 38:3 "And she conceived, and bare a son; and he called his name Er." 38:4 "And she conceived again, and bare a son; and she called his name Onan. 38:5 And she yet again conceived, and bare a son; and called his name Shelah: and he was at Chezib, when she bare him." Thus, the bible itself proves the progeny of Judah are matrilinial to a Canaanite. And the science of genetics proves this unequivocally. Why stop there? What happens in the next verses? Why I know, the sons die, after marrying the daughter of the high priest, clearly a Hebrew woman. It gets even juicier after that, by Leviticus law, the second son is obligated to marry his brother's wife but their children are the inheritance of his older brother's estate. So Onan wastes his seed on the ground and God kills him. By Hebrew law, the next (Canaanite son) is up, but he's still young and Judah thinks she's cursed since his sons are all dying after being with her. She fights back by disguising herself as a prostitute and does the dirty with her father in law, but instead of cash she takes his staff, mantle and ring. Later when she's pregnant Judah wants to have her burnt to death, which was in Leviticus no doubt for this very event since we never hear about it elsewhere. She shows up with the items and Judah is caught quite literally with his pants down. She has twins and they not the three you named go on to father the Judah tribe. Their mother and father are Jewish. But thanks for playing. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strangelovesurfing + 737 JD May 31, 2020 (edited) @frankfurter “True, For those of limited intelligence, the CCP is a wondrous collection. A man living in the sky and heavens above. A man can live in the belly of The Forbidden Palace. A man who walked upon water. And many more tales beyond imagination. Difficult to challenge such stories and to believe them. But billions of people believe such stories, and some define their very existence by them, and commit murder by them. Thus the stories are of rather great importance to the peaceful co-existence of peoples in the clutches of the CCP.” 🙃 Sweety, I looked at your rough draft you sent me and made a few corrections, you and your typos! 💘 Edited June 1, 2020 by Strangelovesurfing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Ward Smith said: Why stop there? What happens in the next verses? Why I know, the sons die, after marrying the daughter of the high priest, clearly a Hebrew woman. It gets even juicier after that, by Leviticus law, the second son is obligated to marry his brother's wife but their children are the inheritance of his older brother's estate. So Onan wastes his seed on the ground and God kills him. By Hebrew law, the next (Canaanite son) is up, but he's still young and Judah thinks she's cursed since his sons are all dying after being with her. She fights back by disguising herself as a prostitute and does the dirty with her father in law, but instead of cash she takes his staff, mantle and ring. Later when she's pregnant Judah wants to have her burnt to death, which was in Leviticus no doubt for this very event since we never hear about it elsewhere. She shows up with the items and Judah is caught quite literally with his pants down. She has twins and they not the three you named go on to father the Judah tribe. Their mother and father are Jewish. But thanks for playing. Retorts are expected, but, at the least, you should try to be correct, lest you expose your ignorance to the world. Shelah survived, born from a Canaanite mother, one of the 5 sons seeded by Judah. Genesis 46:12 And the sons of Judah; Er, and Onan, and Shelah, and Pharez, and Zerah: but Er and Onan died in the land of Canaan. And the sons of Pharez were Hezron and Hamul. Numbers 26:20 And the sons of Judah after their families were; of Shelah, the family of the Shelanites: of Pharez, the family of the Pharzites: of Zerah, the family of the Zarhites. I presume the woman you refer is Tamar. The claim she is of pure Hebrew lineage cannot be proven. She appears firstly in Genesis 38:6 .... "And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar". Tamar is not introduced anywhere prior, nor is her lineage. Thus the best we can say is she may be of pure Hebrew lineage, or may not. Regardless, she is not the sole matriarch for Judah's surviving seed. Thus your argument is factually disproved. To paraphrase ORO, do yourself a favour and try to break through your indoctrination. Even the Bible advocates for this, for the truth will set you free. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 June 1, 2020 44 minutes ago, frankfurter said: Retorts are expected, but, at the least, you should try to be correct, lest you expose your ignorance to the world. Shelah survived, born from a Canaanite mother, one of the 5 sons seeded by Judah. Genesis 46:12 And the sons of Judah; Er, and Onan, and Shelah, and Pharez, and Zerah: but Er and Onan died in the land of Canaan. And the sons of Pharez were Hezron and Hamul. Numbers 26:20 And the sons of Judah after their families were; of Shelah, the family of the Shelanites: of Pharez, the family of the Pharzites: of Zerah, the family of the Zarhites. I presume the woman you refer is Tamar. The claim she is of pure Hebrew lineage cannot be proven. She appears firstly in Genesis 38:6 .... "And Judah took a wife for Er his firstborn, whose name was Tamar". Tamar is not introduced anywhere prior, nor is her lineage. Thus the best we can say is she may be of pure Hebrew lineage, or may not. Regardless, she is not the sole matriarch for Judah's surviving seed. Thus your argument is factually disproved. To paraphrase ORO, do yourself a favour and try to break through your indoctrination. Even the Bible advocates for this, for the truth will set you free. Leviticus 21:9 look it up buckwheat. Proof she was the daughter of a priest at least (and some commenters claim the high priest). Only the daughter of a priest can be burned for prostitution. Internally consistent, something Bible bashers can't discern. God isn't out to please you He's the creator and regularly proves he's at least 5th dimensional by traversing time at will. You should be reading Revelations about now, there isn't a ton of time left for you. You might get saved, I'm not putting any money on it, but miracles can always happen. Or just stick to the fairy tales the CCP keeps telling you. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 1, 2020 20 minutes ago, Ward Smith said: Leviticus 21:9 look it up buckwheat. Proof she was the daughter of a priest at least (and some commenters claim the high priest). Only the daughter of a priest can be burned for prostitution. Internally consistent, something Bible bashers can't discern. God isn't out to please you He's the creator and regularly proves he's at least 5th dimensional by traversing time at will. You should be reading Revelations about now, there isn't a ton of time left for you. You might get saved, I'm not putting any money on it, but miracles can always happen. Or just stick to the fairy tales the CCP keeps telling you. Please quote the text of your Leviticus 21 that identifies Tamar specifically. You see, I can find no reference. My KJV Bible is quite old, about 200 years, and has no such mention. And, kindly acknowledge Leviticus came after the book of Exodus, and Exodus is post Genesis: well, this is what I am told by certain scholars of the Bible. But let's accept your premise. Does it change the seed of Judah? The answer is no. The book of Numbers expressly states Shelah survived and went on to procreate a family within the tribe of Judah. This is written in black and white, not only in KJV, but many other 'editions'. Your retort refuses to acknowledge this, which is typical of cultists. And, thanks for your warning. True, the time for Revelation may be fast approaching, as the world is under threat of Armageddon currently by your government and nation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 June 1, 2020 53 minutes ago, frankfurter said: Please quote the text of your Leviticus 21 that identifies Tamar specifically. You see, I can find no reference. My KJV Bible is quite old, about 200 years, and has no such mention. And, kindly acknowledge Leviticus came after the book of Exodus, and Exodus is post Genesis: well, this is what I am told by certain scholars of the Bible. But let's accept your premise. Does it change the seed of Judah? The answer is no. The book of Numbers expressly states Shelah survived and went on to procreate a family within the tribe of Judah. This is written in black and white, not only in KJV, but many other 'editions'. Your retort refuses to acknowledge this, which is typical of cultists. And, thanks for your warning. True, the time for Revelation may be fast approaching, as the world is under threat of Armageddon currently by your government and nation. So, it's your brilliant premise that Judah knew a book would eventually be written that would tell him it was OK to burn a daughter of a priest to death for being a prostitute? I'm curious if wumaodang need to pass some kind of IQ test. Or is room temperature sufficient, and Celsius no less? The seed of David came through Tamar. Future names aren't always revealed, but I suggest you learn about Cyrus for a place that it was. As a dedicated CCP drone you've been raised to be atheist and amoral. But yeah, somehow you're positioned to judge the morals of others from that morality vacuum. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 June 1, 2020 China’s ‘Nervous’ Xi Risks New Cold War, Last Hong Kong Governor Says (Bold print added by me. DW) May 30, 2020 By Guy Faulconbridge LONDON (Reuters) – Chinese President Xi Jinping is so nervous about the position of the Communist Party that he is risking a new Cold War and imperilling Hong Kong’s position as Asia’s pre-eminent financial hub, the last British governor of the territory told Reuters. Chris Patten said Xi’s ‘thuggish’ crackdown in Hong Kong risked triggering an outflow of capital and people from the city which funnels the bulk of foreign investment into mainland China. The West, he said, should stop being naive about Xi, who has served as General Secretary of the Communist Party since 2012. “We have long since passed the stage where, without wanting another Cold War, we have to react to the fact Xi seems to want one himself,” Patten said. Patten cast Xi as a dictator who was “nervous” about the position of the Communist Party in China after criticism of its early handling of the novel coronavirus outbreak and the economic impact of its trade disagreements with the United States. “One reason Xi Jinping is whipping up all this nationalist feeling about Hong Kong, about Taiwan and about other issues, is that he is more nervous than any official would allow about the position of the Communist Party in China,” he said. The Chinese embassy in London did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Patten, now 76, watched as the British flag was lowered over Hong Kong when the colony was handed back to China in 1997 after more than 150 years of British rule. Hong Kong’s autonomy was guaranteed under the “one country, two systems” agreement enshrined in the 1984 Sino-British Joint Declaration. But thousands of Hong Kong protesters have defied Beijing in recent months. HONG KONG China’s parliament this week approved a decision to create laws for Hong Kong to curb sedition, secession, terrorism and foreign interference. “Xi Jinping hates the things which Hong Kong has been promised under the ‘one country, two systems’ treaty lodged at the United Nations which he is wilfully breaking,” Patten said. “What he hopes he can do is to bash Hong Kong into shape.” Patten said Xi’s actions had placed Hong Kong’s position as Asia’s premier international financial hub under question. “What does it mean? It means serious question marks not just about Hong Kong’s future as a free society but also about Hong Kong’s ability to continue as probably the premier international financial hub in Asia,” Patten said. “A lot of people will try to leave Hong Kong,” Patten said, adding that he feared capital would also flow out. “It is going to be pretty rough over the next few months.” The autonomy of Hong Kong has, until now, given investors faith in the territory’s legal and governance systems. China’s legal system is accountable to the Communist Party. “What you have coming into conflict is a dictatorial idea of what the law is with the common law which is undoubtedly going to cause a constitutional clash,” Patten said He added the West had been even more naive with Xi’s China than it had with post-Soviet Russia. “What Xi has demonstrated so far is that unless you stand up to bullies they go on bullying you,” he said. Patten said the West should stand together when allies – such as Australia – were targeted by Beijing and be cautious with companies such as Huawei which Britain has allowed to help build its 5G network. “Huawei is an agent of an unpleasant Chinese state,” Patten said. Huawei has repeatedly denied claims that it is agent of the Chinese state. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 June 1, 2020 On 5/31/2020 at 10:02 AM, frankfurter said: Respectfully, no, you are incorrect. I quoted the Bible verbatim. For this, I am labelled an anti-semite, which in your country is highly inflammatory. As such insult is received, so it is returned. As a well established Han Chinese supremacist, as a promoter of CCP narratives on this site, understand that you are defined as you are. You are not returning an insult, you are claiming that calling you out for what you say is an insult. So you can say whatever you like and grind away insulting people by race religion and nationality, but saying that you are doing it is somehow an insult? I would say that you are a practicing Communist as made obvious by your avowed adherence to CCP propaganda guidelines. Belief in Communism is a total act of faith, disregarding its multiple failures and murderous history. You are standing on no more rational ground than the various religions. What will you do when the Communist bandits lose their grip? Do yourself a favor and hunt down the facts of the CCP's malicious actions and document them for your people and the West to see. If you don't manage to do so, at least hasten the collapse of the CCP by throwing as many of their officials as possible out of windows. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 2, 2020 19 hours ago, Ward Smith said: So, it's your brilliant premise that Judah knew a book would eventually be written that would tell him it was OK to burn a daughter of a priest to death for being a prostitute? I'm curious if wumaodang need to pass some kind of IQ test. Or is room temperature sufficient, and Celsius no less? The seed of David came through Tamar. Future names aren't always revealed, but I suggest you learn about Cyrus for a place that it was. As a dedicated CCP drone you've been raised to be atheist and amoral. But yeah, somehow you're positioned to judge the morals of others from that morality vacuum. You can try to deflect and deny until you are blue in the face, but the text of Numbers is clear, absolutely clear. Shelah survived and procreated within the tribe of Judah. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralfy + 55 June 2, 2020 From "The Coming War on China": Quote When the United States, the world’s biggest military power, decided that China, the second largest economic power, was a threat to its imperial dominance, two-thirds of US naval forces were transferred to Asia and the Pacific. This was the ‘pivot to Asia', announced by President Barack Obama in 2011. China, which in the space of a generation had risen from the chaos of Mao Zedong's ‘Cultural Revolution’ to an economic prosperity that has seen more than 500 million people lifted out of poverty, was suddenly the United States's new enemy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 2, 2020 https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm "In the 1850s, the United States and the European powers grew increasingly dissatisfied with both the terms of their treaties with China, and the Qing Government's failure to adhere to them. The British forced the issue by attacking the Chinese port cities of Guangzhou and Tianjin in the Second Opium War (1857-1858). Under the most-favored-nation clause, all of the foreign powers operating in China were permitted to seek the same concessions of China that Great Britain achieved by force. As a result, France, Russia, and the United States all signed treaties with China at Tianjin in quick succession in 1858." Note: the purpose of the Treaties was to pillage and plunder, not to provide any altruistic benefits to the Chinese peoples. History is repeating. In place of UK, we have USA. The alleged violations of agreements continue to be alleged, by the western powers, led by the USA [though the USA is the one to have reneged and exited nearly all treaties she made over the past 50 years]. Not too much has changed, except for; Russia no longer wishes any part of China territory; China and Russia are cooperating for mutual benefit; China has a nuclear arsenal to strike back at any Western attack. [I know... the USA has sufficient nuclear arsenal to atomise the Earth 20x over, whereas China can do only 1x over]. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 June 2, 2020 9 hours ago, frankfurter said: https://2001-2009.state.gov/r/pa/ho/time/dwe/82011.htm "In the 1850s, the United States and the European powers grew increasingly dissatisfied with both the terms of their treaties with China, and the Qing Government's failure to adhere to them. The British forced the issue by attacking the Chinese port cities of Guangzhou and Tianjin in the Second Opium War (1857-1858). Under the most-favored-nation clause, all of the foreign powers operating in China were permitted to seek the same concessions of China that Great Britain achieved by force. As a result, France, Russia, and the United States all signed treaties with China at Tianjin in quick succession in 1858." Note: the purpose of the Treaties was to pillage and plunder, not to provide any altruistic benefits to the Chinese peoples. History is repeating. In place of UK, we have USA. The alleged violations of agreements continue to be alleged, by the western powers, led by the USA [though the USA is the one to have reneged and exited nearly all treaties she made over the past 50 years]. Not too much has changed, except for; Russia no longer wishes any part of China territory; China and Russia are cooperating for mutual benefit; China has a nuclear arsenal to strike back at any Western attack. [I know... the USA has sufficient nuclear arsenal to atomise the Earth 20x over, whereas China can do only 1x over]. Note the website where this information is promulgated. A dot gov address, which means funded by the US govt. Now compare and contrast to China, and the CCP, which can admit no wrong and seeks to delete and destroy every record of its mistakes, which are legion. No ability for introspection, no willingness to see the truth. Your masters 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites