The Downside of Political Correctness

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https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-down-side-of-politica_b_11311066

Is political correctness freedom of speech? Mao Tse Tung coined the term, that should say enough. He also said that political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Political correctness is like a boa constrictor, after it gets a couple of coils around your neck the fight is over. Do we want to control speech as in China? Who gets to define political correctness in America? Who controls the media? Let's discuss these issues openly. RCW

The Downside Of Political Correctness: Authentic Speech In The Age Of Trump

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Today the government is attacking freedom of the press. Not in a little insubstantial way like fact-checking the president. 

According to Time, "Between May 26 to June 3, the tracker received more than 279 claims of violations to press freedom—claims that can range from physical assault, arrest, damage or seizure of equipment, and several other additional criteria."

https://time.com/5846497/journalists-police-george-floyd-protests/

Anyone who is for freedom of speech should be protesting armed suppression of our journalists. What are we? Turkey?

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"Political correctness" does not suppress discussion; you can discuss matters while having some respect. 

Using "homosexual" instead of "f*g" doesn't cost anyone anything more than a few keystrokes.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Geoff Guenther said:

Today the government is attacking freedom of the press.

Of course, trump has been "fake news" from the start.

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Just now, Enthalpic said:

Of course, trump has been "fake news" from the start.

Based off history I'd say some people are not going to be very happy the way this whole things ends. What is taking place right in front of everyone's eyes is astonishing. The far left have abandoned there inhibitions and that is precisely where Trump wants them at this moment in time

 

[Yoshiro Kamamura + 274]

I also agree that Donald Trump is the greatest enemy of the freedom of the speech in the US. From the beginning of his term, he started a witch hunt in among the NASA employees with the intention of firing everyone who published scientific articles about the climate change. It is a known fact that during press conferences, he favors reporters that publish praise about his person to those who strive to provide objective coverage. 

So the thread should be named: "The downside of being a lying, treacherous imbecile - the forgotten art of fact checking in the era of the Trump cult."

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34 minutes ago, Eyes Wide Open said:

Based off history I'd say some people are not going to be very happy the way this whole things ends. What is taking place right in front of everyone's eyes is astonishing. The far left have abandoned there inhibitions and that is precisely where Trump wants them at this moment in time

 

Indeed, regardless of what "side" you care about it is very unstable times.

If the extreme left goes way too crazy trump may use it as reasonable justification for further draconian measures. Trump is a media and attention man, if he can turn the media into a 100% propaganda machine I suspect he will.  He already threatened his beloved twitter.

If the left "extremists" dial it back and do peaceful protests only, and trump issues shady policies with little justification anyways, and only more unrest will ensue.

Ideally, the separation between media and government is upheld as much as possible. I also hope the demonstrations just end - no more awareness can be gained from this - it just creates more opportunities for clashes.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Enthalpic

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4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

"Political correctness" does not suppress discussion; you can discuss matters while having some respect. 

Using "homosexual" instead of "f*g" doesn't cost anyone anything more than a few keystrokes.

 

 

F*** off fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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45 minutes ago, Wombat said:

F*** off fag!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

According to James, a ‘fag’ is a cigarette. Why would you refer to a ‘tail gunner’ as a cigarette?

Didn’t someone post a thread regarding freedom of speech earlier?

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4 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

"Political correctness" does not suppress discussion; you can discuss matters while having some respect. 

Using "homosexual" instead of "f*g" doesn't cost anyone anything more than a few keystrokes.

 

 

Observation from the outsider, non-American and living in all-White society, apart from major cities it is difficult to spot non-whites.

My opinion is ethnicity especially black color of skin is a taboo topic in United States.

I think that Majority of US society simply loathe/hate African-Americans, but not because of the color of their skin.
If bald, with protruding ears or with  large feet group of people would behave the way African- Americans behave they would be also hated.

It is just that this group is a big problem for the society: 7 times more crime, financial burden for the federal and state budgets, hardly contribute in taxes etc.

People know that this is not their fault cause it is 200 years of discrimination etc but it is like with drug addicts, somehow you know that they are ill but this is not changing much the way you feel about drug addicts.

My opinion is open discussion about African-Americans is suppressed in US.

You are called racist if you do not toe political correctness line.

I have a simple proof of this.

I wrote about statistics from report by Department of Justice that 1 in 4 Middle aged black males are criminals in comparison to 1 to 22 White males. And that this causes racial profiling by cops that just need to be very cautious when dealing with black males the same as they need to cautious with other high risk groups like drug addicts.

I was called racist, bad person. And for the commenters claiming that I am racist it was obvious that I was behaving like racist. Theese commenters are good , inteligent people but, Americans are immersed in the culture of political correctness about African-Americans.

I do not know, maybe this political correctness is good.

I simply do not know, the above is just the observation and opinion.

I hope I would not be blocked.

 

Edited June 6, 2020 by Marcin2
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PC is a tool the Fascists use to try to shup up all other points of view.

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The fact is, in a population of roughly 330 million, you are going to have a certain percentage of assholes, of every race, color and religion. It is to be expected, and dealt with.

The VAST majority of whites, blacks, browns, etc...in America get along and interact just fine. This does not make the ‘news’ as it is not sensational, and does not sell air time or newspapers.

What you are seeing now, over and over, is a disease of the inner cities. You do not find it in the suburbs unless it is exported from the inner cities.

The so called media is fanning the flames to keep the rioting front and center. The rioters have highjacked the narrative from the protesters. Keep in mind that peaceful protests are essentially a right in America, looting, burning and injuring innocent people is aggrevated robbery, arson and assault are criminal offenses and should be treated as such

As the old adage says, ‘It only takes a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel’.

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4 hours ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

I also agree that Donald Trump is the greatest enemy of the freedom of the speech in the US. 

I think Trump is just an elephant in the store with China.

He says what many people are afraid to say, and probably part of this is  Cold election calculation.

In total I think Trump polarized US society, but he actually contributed to freedom of speech by his maverick, impulsive comments.

Edited June 6, 2020 by Marcin2
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3 minutes ago, Douglas Buckland said:

The fact is, in a population of roughly 330 million, you are going to have a certain percentage of assholes, of every race, color and religion. It is to be expected, and dealt with.

The VAST majority of whites, blacks, browns, etc...in America get along and interact just fine. This does not make the ‘news’ as it is not sensational, and does not sell air time or newspapers.

What you are seeing now, over and over, is a disease of the inner cities. You do not find it in the suburbs unless it is exported from the inner cities.

The so called media is fanning the flames to keep the rioting front and center. The rioters have highjacked the narrative from the protesters. Keep in mind that peaceful protests are essentially a right in America, looting, burning and injuring innocent people is aggrevated robbery, arson and assault are criminal offenses and should be treated as such

As the old adage says, ‘It only takes a few bad apples to spoil the whole barrel’.

I do not agree.

If criminals are as* holes over 25% of black males are as*holes and only 4.5% of white males.

25% ( these are only the ones that were busted) is a significant portion of black community.

The most popular job for white Middle aged males is probably a waiter.

For the black middle aged males , I have no hesitation, I am 100% positive, this job is being criminal.

[Dan Warnick + 6,100]

This discussion wouldn't be complete without bringing Dr. Jordan Peterson into it.  Jordan is considered very controversial for his outright attack on political correctness and his full support of free speech.  I'll leave him to make his points and to you to make your own judgements about what he has to say.  Grab a cup or 2 of coffee, or something stronger if you prefer, and give it a listen.  Dr. Peterson begins speaking at 03:45, if you'd like to skip his intro.

 

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And, of course, this much shorter video should follow the one above, which many may have decided wasn't worth their time.  For what it's worth:

 

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Political correctness is..........

............ seemingly impeccable however one says it for the country.....

Edited June 6, 2020 by specinho

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8 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

I think Trump is just an elephant in the store with China.

He says what many people are afraid to say, and probably part of this is  Cold election calculation.

In total I think Trump polarized US society, but he actually contributed to freedom of speech by his maverick, impulsive comments.

I think you confuse "freedom of speech" with the childish concept of "I can babble whatever I want". There is no discussion with an individual that does not respect facts, basic laws of logic and nature, and lies in almost every sentence. 

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Political correctness and freedom of speech are mutual exclusive, you cannot have both.

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14 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

"Political correctness" does not suppress discussion; you can discuss matters while having some respect. 

Using "homosexual" instead of "f*g" doesn't cost anyone anything more than a few keystrokes.

 

 

Have you ever seen f-g used on Oil Price? I don't use it. 

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14 hours ago, Enthalpic said:

Of course, trump has been "fake news" from the start.

Yes, and the press, the establishment, the globalists, the educational system have about nine times the communication power. So what do they do? They demonize a fine President of the United States because he is not cooperating with their agendas. Not only that, the Deep State try to get rid of him by making up lies and giving them to the press. They also attack his supporters and try to put them in jail. Attacking the misinformation provided by the press has allowed President Trump to be more successful a communicator than President Ronald Reagan, who was about the sweetest, nicest man anyone could ask for. Still, he was reviled nearly as much as President Trump. He tried to cooperate with the Democrats but actually got taken advantage of. Still, he was able to help Eastern Europe free itself from the Soviet Union despite being criticized for calling it The Evil Empire. 

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how off base I think it is, but I am also entitled to mine. Expressing my right to speak freely is basic to being an American and should be to any human being. We are also free to follow the facts where we believe they lead and demonstrate their veracity. We are not going to accept the views of the "experts" chosen by the media, the socialists, and the globalists. 

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1 hour ago, Yoshiro Kamamura said:

I think you confuse "freedom of speech" with the childish concept of "I can babble whatever I want". There is no discussion with an individual that does not respect facts, basic laws of logic and nature, and lies in almost every sentence. 

That is not a mistake, that is freedom of speech. You have the freedom to lie as well as tell the truth.

You don't learn from facts, you just select among them those that support a point you are trying to make. Thus facts don't matter to your understanding of the world.

Hence your alliance with CCP narratives shows up repeatedly, as it does in the mainstream media, and in Democrat talking points. If you could learn from facts you would know you are on the more evil side.

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On 6/5/2020 at 10:30 PM, ronwagn said:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-down-side-of-politica_b_11311066

Is political correctness freedom of speech? Mao Tse Tung coined the term, that should say enough. He also said that political power comes out of the barrel of a gun. Political correctness is like a boa constrictor, after it gets a couple of coils around your neck the fight is over. Do we want to control speech as in China? Who gets to define political correctness in America? Who controls the media? Let's discuss these issues openly. RCW

The Downside Of Political Correctness: Authentic Speech In The Age Of Trump

Your post is highly offensive, and yet again predicated upon a lie. 

Mao coined the phrase 'political correctness'?  Your racism is now proven.  The phrase was coined in Germany, during 1923, by Jews. 

You get what you vote for. Do not blame Trump overly for his deeds. He is controlled by his handlers. The same handlers who control all your media, and have enacted laws to criminalise anyone who criticises Israel. The proof of this has been posted earlier.

Armed, violent aggression against journalists is the hallmark of a fascist state. Trump may be the perpetrator, but he is not the originator. The originators were Bush, who created the NSA, followed by Obama with his new power to assassinate anyone anywhere without due process.

Only the ignorant will denigrate others as the solution to their problems.  As you continue to bash China, specifically, what do you accomplish other than self-gratification?

If you wish to learn why your country is burning, and will continue to burn, you need only to look in a mirror.  

Edited June 8, 2020 by Selva
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10 hours ago, Marcin2 said:

I do not agree.

If criminals are as* holes over 25% of black males are as*holes and only 4.5% of white males.

25% ( these are only the ones that were busted) is a significant portion of black community.

The most popular job for white Middle aged males is probably a waiter.

For the black middle aged males , I have no hesitation, I am 100% positive, this job is being criminal.

Absolutely incorrect.

As Doug pointed out, it is a unique circumstance of the inner city populations, which are largely black or Latino. The stats of jailings are not reflective of the blacks who left the inner city. Hip hop culture is all about pointing out the bad behaviors and bad attitudes that bring misery on top of hard conditions. There are still many who found themselves on the wrong side of the law because they were "driving while being black", or being dressed in gang fashions near a crime scene. It isn't as clear cut as you are trying to present it.

Go learn about it.

Whites are not mostly waiters.

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4 minutes ago, frankfurter said:

Your post is highly offensive, and yet again predicated upon a lie. But, happy to see a moron, racist, bigot like you be concerned about freedom of speech.

Mao coined the phrase 'political correctness'?  Your racism is now proven.  The phrase was coined in Germany, during 1923, by Jews. 

You get what you vote for. Do not blame Trump overly for his deeds. He is controlled by his handlers. The same handlers who control all your media, and have enacted laws to criminalise anyone who criticises Israel. The proof of this has been posted earlier.

Armed, violent aggression against journalists is the hallmark of a fascist state. Trump may be the perpetrator, but he is not the originator. The originators were Bush, who created the NSA, followed by Obama with his new power to assassinate anyone anywhere without due process.

Only the ignorant will denigrate others as the solution to their problems.  As you continue to bash China, specifically, what do you accomplish other than self-gratification?

If you wish to learn why your country is burning, and will continue to burn, you need only to look in a mirror.  

There he is again, the Han Chinese Supremacist who likes to call everyone else racist. Projection dear @Frankenfuhrer.

It will not be long till your namesake Frankfurt Institute is abandoned and its graduates shunned by society everywhere.

A cop station was burned. Not the first time.

Don't take the mainstream media reporting and the "leadership" posing in front of the protesters to be representative of their plight or complaint. It is a protest against authoritarian brutality that was translated by the left into a racial issue. It isn't'. This is not 1968.

Being the racist that you are, you seem incapable of viewing things from any other perspective.