Richard Hall + 25 June 8, 2020 I just wondered if some of you more intellectual minds could give their opinion on what this could mean for the financial system and mainly who benefits and who doesn't. I think it is important to note that they refer to it as "The Great Reset" and not "A Great Reset" as if this will be implemented within the coming years. I couldn't help but notice one of the guests or "Stakeholders" at the next Economic Forum Annual Meeting is none other than Bernard Looney the CEO of BP who just stated that 10,000 lay offs are about to occur. Could that be part of a more strategic action to usher in the said Reset? Or is that just good business when faced with a considerable drop in profits? https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2020/06/05/the-great-reset-a-unique-twin-summit-to-begin-2021/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG June 9, 2020 I would not expect too much for society in terms of "reset;" whatever benefits that might come out of these deals are more likely to accrue to the pockets of the rich. You want to take a hard look at the sponsors before jumping to conclusions. This operation is promoted by HRH "The Prince of Wales." That is the British crown title given to the next in line to the Throne, which here is Prince Charles, now about 73, and the ex-husband of Princess Diana, she who was killed in the car wreck in Paris. Charles is known for his habit of talking to plants, as he is convinced that plants can understand human speech. I don't place much credibility in that idea. I just don't see Charles as the champion of the average Joe. The others are all big-money corporate types, so you have to anticipate that whatever comes out of that deal is going to be slanted towards their interests. The idea that the world is going to be saved by figuring out some reduction in the CO2 is a bit silly; CO2 is a trace gas, measured in parts per million, and is vital to life on earth. It is the key ingredient in plant life. More CO2 is not going to cause the seas to rise 25 feet, never mind what the alarmists try to tell you. More CO2 will result is a slightly faster growing season, and will accumulate bioomass in the forests marginally faster. That is all to the good. Anyone who wants to do serious things for the planet can address desertification, which is easy enough to do, just requires some coin and some willpower. Ditto with plastics waste; set up plastics to diesel conversion plants, that technology is proven and would be great. You are not going to get those kinds of results out of these Forums with Charles in the command structure. Just my thoughts; as Tom would say, "your mileage might vary." 3 2 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 9, 2020 Kindly note the main protagonists are Charles, Schwab and a host of American giga corps, whose countries and economies were built upon conquest, pillage, plunder, slavery. Doubtful any meaningful 'reset' proposals will come from these. The true 'reset' is occurring now: just look around you. The 'summit' is simply a euphemism to propose ways and means to combat the true reset. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG June 9, 2020 45 minutes ago, frankfurter said: Kindly note the main protagonists are Charles, Schwab and a host of American giga corps, whose countries and economies were built upon conquest, pillage, plunder, slavery. What unbelievable rubbish! How do you even have the nerve to write crap like that. Unreal. People, ignore this troll. 4 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 9, 2020 "People said to me, 'Why are you staying in Syria,'" Trump said Tuesday. "Because I kept the oil, which frankly we should have done in Iraq," he added, to cheers and applause from the audience. The president has previously criticized his predecessors for not profiting off Iraqi oil wells. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-us-troops-syria-oil-bashar-al-assad-kurds-wisconsin-rally-1482250 How many more instances do you need? Free speech for thee, but not for me? You are unable to respond without denigrating the person? Who is the troll? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 9, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, frankfurter said: "People said to me, 'Why are you staying in Syria,'" Trump said Tuesday. "Because I kept the oil, which frankly we should have done in Iraq," he added, to cheers and applause from the audience. The president has previously criticized his predecessors for not profiting off Iraqi oil wells. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-us-troops-syria-oil-bashar-al-assad-kurds-wisconsin-rally-1482250 How many more instances do you need? Free speech for thee, but not for me? You are unable to respond without denigrating the person? Who is the troll? What a elegant solution...the death stops and now Turkey is dealing with Russia. One can see the Ottoman Empire once again raising its flag covering the middle east... Edited June 9, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0R0 + 6,251 June 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, frankfurter said: "People said to me, 'Why are you staying in Syria,'" Trump said Tuesday. "Because I kept the oil, which frankly we should have done in Iraq," he added, to cheers and applause from the audience. The president has previously criticized his predecessors for not profiting off Iraqi oil wells. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-us-troops-syria-oil-bashar-al-assad-kurds-wisconsin-rally-1482250 How many more instances do you need? Free speech for thee, but not for me? You are unable to respond without denigrating the person? Who is the troll? And you want to be free to lie without repercussions? We call you out with references showing your deliberate misstatements and you repeat them in a different form over an over again. That "keep the oil" idea was the right one from an imperial perspective, but the US did the opposite, created a world order where there were no empires, just the tension between itself and international Communism in the form of the Soviets. The US world order's only interest was to fight the Soviet Union, and Communist China if were to align with them. The US provided its allies in the cold war with Russia and its many conflagrations and all who would participate free access to US markets under a rules based trading system, who's rules only the US followed. China's reward for leaving the Soviet's side was to join that order, which privilege the CCP used as a means to get the West to pull China's people out of poverty, while it steadily undermined the West's strategic industries with money losing commercial competition paid for by the Chinese people with suppression of living standards and endless debt. Today, as the US is no longer interested in maintaining the world order at its own expense, the next step of history is a chaotic scramble to build alliances and empires out of them. In that context, "keeping the oil" is the imperial thing to do. Keeping the oil flowing is the old order thing to do. Cutting off China from it would be the correct thing to do for humanity so that the Chinese have the opportunity to rise up and crush the CCP.. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, 0R0 said: And you want to be free to lie without repercussions? We call you out with references showing your deliberate misstatements and you repeat them in a different form over an over again. That "keep the oil" idea was the right one from an imperial perspective, but the US did the opposite, created a world order where there were no empires, just the tension between itself and international Communism in the form of the Soviets. The US world order's only interest was to fight the Soviet Union, and Communist China if were to align with them. The US provided its allies in the cold war with Russia and its many conflagrations and all who would participate free access to US markets under a rules based trading system, who's rules only the US followed. China's reward for leaving the Soviet's side was to join that order, which privilege the CCP used as a means to get the West to pull China's people out of poverty, while it steadily undermined the West's strategic industries with money losing commercial competition paid for by the Chinese people with suppression of living standards and endless debt. Today, as the US is no longer interested in maintaining the world order at its own expense, the next step of history is a chaotic scramble to build alliances and empires out of them. In that context, "keeping the oil" is the imperial thing to do. Keeping the oil flowing is the old order thing to do. Cutting off China from it would be the correct thing to do for humanity so that the Chinese have the opportunity to rise up and crush the CCP.. uh, don't you mean no other empires? 'keep the oil'. spoken as a true imperialist. fyi, if you were to learn history, you could know the USA did indeed block oil, wheat, many other commodities, to China, early '50s. and, then you could know the Chinese people did not 'rise up', but instead persevered until the imperial capitalists came knocking of their accord, in hopes to exploit the people. if you wish to know why your country is burning, look in your mirror. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Eyes Wide Open said: What a elegant solution...the death stops and now Turkey is dealing with Russia. One can see the Ottoman Empire once again raising its flag covering the middle east... uh, the neo Ottoman Empire is here... equipped, aided, and abetted by the USA, under the false pretence of NATO, and has pushed it troops into a UN-recognised country. any current map will show Turkey is far, far distant to the North Atlantic: historically, geographically, culturally. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eyes Wide Open + 3,555 June 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, frankfurter said: uh, the neo Ottoman Empire is here... equipped, aided, and abetted by the USA, under the false pretence of NATO, and has pushed it troops into a UN-recognised country. any current map will show Turkey is far, far distant to the North Atlantic: historically, geographically, culturally. Actually not quite yet being here that is...they still have some necessary house cleaning prior to the oil fields be given to them for oversight. I do believe they have the will...time will tell. The eventual interaction Iran will have is the key to rise...It makes one wonder how one country will react to finally taking a back seat. Ohh the UN...they have territory....hmm it seems that is rather new. Edited June 9, 2020 by Eyes Wide Open 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, frankfurter said: uh, the neo Ottoman Empire is here... equipped, aided, and abetted by the USA, under the false pretence of NATO, and has pushed it troops into a UN-recognised country. any current map will show Turkey is far, far distant to the North Atlantic: historically, geographically, culturally. Much like the relationship between the EU and Turkey...🤔 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Hall + 25 June 9, 2020 (edited) Derailed. So no one has any input on what this could mean should this come to fruition? Do the poor benefit? The middle class? We know the UN will is it part of the NWO agenda? Edited June 9, 2020 by Richard Hall Spelling 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG June 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Richard Hall said: Do the poor benefit? No. 4 minutes ago, Richard Hall said: The middle class? No. 5 minutes ago, Richard Hall said: We know the UN will is it part of the NWO agenda? No. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Hall + 25 June 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jan van Eck said: No. No. No. That's some insight there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
notsonice + 1,266 DM June 9, 2020 12 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: What unbelievable rubbish! How do you even have the nerve to write crap like that. Unreal. People, ignore this troll. Dude the troll smoked you. The western countries have tried to control (and screwed with) the middle east for the past 100 years all for oil. They are still trying to control the oil. Why is the US in Iraq? Why is Trump so obsessed with Venezuela ?? Why does he give MBS passes as he did when Koshogi was murdered?? I wish he was more obsessed supporting the US domestic production and keeping the oil and gas industry from self-destruction . 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 June 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, notsonice said: Dude the troll smoked you. The western countries have tried to control (and screwed with) the middle east for the past 100 years all for oil. They are still trying to control the oil. Why is the US in Iraq? Why is Trump so obsessed with Venezuela ?? Why does he give MBS passes as he did when Koshogi was murdered?? I wish he was more obsessed supporting the US domestic production and keeping the oil and gas industry from self-destruction . ALM! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richard Hall + 25 June 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dan Warnick said: ALM! Well... not All lives, sorry there are a great deal of wasters out there and to be honest our lives are nothing to the ones what truly believe this world is theirs. 1 1 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dan Warnick + 6,100 June 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Richard Hall said: Well... not All lives, sorry there are a great deal of wasters out there and to be honest our lives are nothing to the ones what truly believe this world is theirs. Arab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Gato + 254 Bs June 9, 2020 15 hours ago, frankfurter said: Kindly note the main protagonists are Charles, Schwab and a host of American giga corps, whose countries and economies were built upon conquest, pillage, plunder, slavery. Doubtful any meaningful 'reset' proposals will come from these. The true 'reset' is occurring now: just look around you. The 'summit' is simply a euphemism to propose ways and means to combat the true reset. That means the Chinese must be there too! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 June 9, 2020 16 hours ago, Jan van Eck said: Anyone who wants to do serious things for the planet can address desertification, which is easy enough to do, just requires some coin and some willpower. https://www.euronews.com/living/2020/05/17/sand-dunes-turned-into-oasis-in-china In this area, the CCP has been doing the Lord's work. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jan van Eck + 7,558 MG June 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hotone said: https://www.euronews.com/living/2020/05/17/sand-dunes-turned-into-oasis-in-china Yes, the Chinese have been hard at work in that area, and have had some great successes. The motivation is that the gigantic Gobi desert is now only a few miles from the Capitol, and it is seriously tough to stop a gigantic sand dune that marches forward with the wind at its back. Sand swallows everything. So the Chinese have developed this new "sand" that is impermeable to water! It is amazing stuff. You put the blob of special sand into a hole in the desert, put your new plant or tree in it, pack the regular sand around, then pour water. All the water stays within the bowl and wates the plant roots, none escapes. Then if they can, they set up a drip line and small amounts of recharge water are pumped to the plants, and not long, you have a fresh forest! Seriously ingenious stuff. Gotta hand it to them. Now, to duplicate that success in the Sahara, and the great Uzbekistan desert. 1 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 12:13 PM, Jan van Eck said: Yes, the Chinese have been hard at work in that area, and have had some great successes. The motivation is that the gigantic Gobi desert is now only a few miles from the Capitol, and it is seriously tough to stop a gigantic sand dune that marches forward with the wind at its back. Sand swallows everything. So the Chinese have developed this new "sand" that is impermeable to water! It is amazing stuff. You put the blob of special sand into a hole in the desert, put your new plant or tree in it, pack the regular sand around, then pour water. All the water stays within the bowl and wates the plant roots, none escapes. Then if they can, they set up a drip line and small amounts of recharge water are pumped to the plants, and not long, you have a fresh forest! Seriously ingenious stuff. Gotta hand it to them. Now, to duplicate that success in the Sahara, and the great Uzbekistan desert. I am really with the reforestation idea. There is nothing much better, especially if you can plant some food producing trees. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hotone + 412 June 11, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, ronwagn said: I am really with the reforestation idea. There is nothing much better, especially if you can plant some food producing trees. China is also trying to bring rain and vegetation to the arid Tibetan plains, which is 3 times the size of Spain. https://singularityhub.com/2018/04/24/china-plans-to-bring-artificial-rain-to-area-three-times-the-size-of-spain/ They are also planting rice in the Ulan Buh desert in Inner Mongolia http://www.ecns.cn/m/news/cns-wire/2020-05-28/detail-ifzwuxpi8640472.shtml Edited June 11, 2020 by Hotone Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wombat + 1,028 AV June 11, 2020 On 6/9/2020 at 5:54 AM, Richard Hall said: I just wondered if some of you more intellectual minds could give their opinion on what this could mean for the financial system and mainly who benefits and who doesn't. I think it is important to note that they refer to it as "The Great Reset" and not "A Great Reset" as if this will be implemented within the coming years. I couldn't help but notice one of the guests or "Stakeholders" at the next Economic Forum Annual Meeting is none other than Bernard Looney the CEO of BP who just stated that 10,000 lay offs are about to occur. Could that be part of a more strategic action to usher in the said Reset? Or is that just good business when faced with a considerable drop in profits? https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2020/06/05/the-great-reset-a-unique-twin-summit-to-begin-2021/ Just the same ol "hot air" as usual. More wasting of breath and resources. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douglas Buckland + 6,308 June 11, 2020 On 6/10/2020 at 12:43 AM, Dan Warnick said: Arab. Apparently not all lives matter. If you are protecting your business or your home - your life doesn’t matter. If you are a policeman (who was not involved in any way, shape, or form, with the death of Mr. Floyd) - your life doesn’t matter. If you are ‘white’ - your life doesn’t matter. If you have worked your ass off and have more ‘stuff’ than a rioter - your life doesn’t matter. So, as you can see, not all lives matter! 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites