Pavel + 384 PP June 19, 2020 U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said on Friday the United States would in future treat Hong Kong as a Chinese city rather than an autonomous one to the extent that China treats the territory as a Chinese city. Pompeo told the online Copenhagen Democracy Summit that elections due in Hong Kong in September would “tell us everything that we need to know about the Chinese Communist Party’s intentions with respect to freedom in Hong Kong.” He also said Washington was working its way through a decision-making process over who would be held accountable over curbs to Hong Kong’s freedoms. Pompeo spoke two days after his first face-to-face meeting in months with China’s top diplomat, Yang Jiechi, at which the latter said Washington needed to respect Beijing’s positions on key issues and halt its interference in matters such as Hong Kong, while working to repair relations. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CarlHainze + 12 KH June 19, 2020 Which actually means he's waiting on President Trump to decide how he can work a deal with Xi.... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
50 shades of black + 254 June 19, 2020 Somebody said, elections are so close... 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rainman + 263 June 19, 2020 All this talk isn't going to slow CCP down one bit. CCP insists to put the national security law in HK, and things are gonna be out of control. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pinto + 293 PZ June 19, 2020 What happened in Hong Kong proves that CCP is a brutal regime. Also it's so power thirsty that it wants to conquer the whole world. If HK falls, the world can hardly counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ward Smith + 6,615 June 20, 2020 17 hours ago, pinto said: What happened in Hong Kong proves that CCP is a brutal regime. Also it's so power thirsty that it wants to conquer the whole world. If HK falls, the world can hardly counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. @ronwagn did you really mean to down vote this comment? I tend to agree with Pinto on this point. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 June 20, 2020 7 hours ago, Ward Smith said: @ronwagn did you really mean to down vote this comment? I tend to agree with Pinto on this point. I only voted it down because of the comment about not being able to counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. I don't think we can do much to help Hong Kong except to encourage them emigrating to other countries thus creating a brain drain and bringing in a lot of good free enterprise minded immigrants. We need to do whatever we can, maybe you can explain what that would be. I changed it to a like. I should have explained myself. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ralfy + 55 June 20, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 6:26 AM, pinto said: What happened in Hong Kong proves that CCP is a brutal regime. Also it's so power thirsty that it wants to conquer the whole world. If HK falls, the world can hardly counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. What most don't know is the reason why HK fell into the hands of the West. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frankfurter + 562 ff June 21, 2020 On 6/20/2020 at 6:26 AM, pinto said: What happened in Hong Kong proves that CCP is a brutal regime. Also it's so power thirsty that it wants to conquer the whole world. If HK falls, the world can hardly counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. truly demented. Please show where and when the CCP unleashed brutality upon HK. HK fell very long ago, in 1897, to the British Empire; which did unleash brutality, and which did have ambitions to rule the world. HK was thereafter a colony; an apartheid state, with zero rights given to HK residents; created by a leasehold. Today, HK residents do have rights, defined by the Basic Law. HK residents have their own passports, for the first time in their history, among many other rights. HK residents are free to travel and emigrate to other countries, taking their wealth with them without any exit taxes. These rights were never granted under UK rule. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomasz + 1,608 June 21, 2020 (edited) On 6/20/2020 at 12:26 AM, pinto said: What happened in Hong Kong proves that CCP is a brutal regime. Also it's so power thirsty that it wants to conquer the whole world. If HK falls, the world can hardly counterstrike the ambition of Beijing on other fields. I really recommend to count all fans of the US moral advantages over China in how many wars and armed interventions after World War II the USA took part and in how many China. Perhaps our American users are not aware of the assessment of the very aggressive US foreign policy and the defense of hegemon status at all costs in an increasing number of countries around the world. Yes, China is a brutal dictatorship. It just so happens that in foreign policy they are very conservative which cannot be said about the USA. It would be necessary to balance these two issues. Because I am afraid that in the eyes of many people outside the US this can be a very serious argument for pro-China attitudes, of which people in the US are not fully aware. At least until they live in a Chinese totalitarian system. Personally, I think that a lot of people around the world assessing Chinese foreign policy and the possible benefits of cooperation with China do not care much about how Chinese people live. More people, however, see that as a result of the destruction of Syria or Libya, we have hundreds of thousands of emigrants heading to Europe. And colorful revolutions were, however, an American idea, not a Chinese one. Edited June 21, 2020 by Tomasz 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronwagn + 6,290 June 23, 2020 Nobody on this site has ever said that America was perfect. But without America the world would all be speaking primarily German and Japanese and would be under their thumbs (IMHO). America and its allies have been the best option to be the world leaders, but NOT the masters. Right now we are up against a faceless globalist, socialist/communist attempted world takeover. If you like what the globalists want for you, pick their side. See One World Government AKA Globalism https://docs.google.com/document/d/1k8kNhtZJLuN66TpDuo67WBV1U2JhhZIvAefxeMNK0ls/edit 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites