Adam Varga + 123 AV December 14, 2017 Toyota reached a deal to explore a new battery partnership with Panasonic. Is this deal a real threat to Tesla or just a good ad for Toyota? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 14, 2017 It looks more that Toyota is just teasing Tesla continuing long-lasting rivalry between these two automakers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vlad Kovalenko + 115 VK December 14, 2017 We won't see this for a while because they haven't start yet with investigating the technological potential of batteries. Until then Tesla will continue with victories. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 14, 2017 Panasonic is the one keeping the best position in this. It already has a major partnership with Tesla to jointly manufacture a competing battery technology. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 14, 2017 Toyota has actually denied itself with these move. Haven't they say after separating with Tesla that the automotive revolution will be driven by hydrogen fuel cells, and not battery-electric cars? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 14, 2017 Actually Toyota was claiming that EVs might be a future "but still long way to go.” Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 14, 2017 Right, and than they triumphantly declared that EVs are easier to make than FCVs which is the reason they will continue with fuel cell vehicles. Hope they figured out now that they've rushed with these statements. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP December 14, 2017 Toyota has no chance in this race.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP December 14, 2017 As I know, they are trying with Toyota Mirai like their version of future. (Mirai in japanese means future) "It will go as far as a similar size petrol car on a full tank of hydrogen and refuelling from empty takes between three and five minutes. The rewards are a quiet, smooth drive, strong performance and no tailpipe emissions other than water vapour." - Mirai Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP December 14, 2017 And, Adam, as what two of the greatest minds ever said: "Our senses allow us to see only a minute part of the outside world." N.Tesla “It is entirely possible that behind the perception of our senses, worlds are hidden of which we are unaware.” A. Einstain It's a Tesla car industry today Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seleskya + 50 AS December 14, 2017 All these guys are so far behind Tesla it's not even funny. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP December 15, 2017 I agree. Toyota already had a joint venture with Mazda focusing on EV batteries. In that time, Toyota was promising that plug in electric together with hydrogen fuel cell vehicles will make half of the their global sales by 2030. Not sure they will succeed in fulfilling that promise Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 15, 2017 I doubt unless they speed up a grow of their "green car" sector. But even then, it will be very hard to beat Tesla especially having in mind their another promise about bringing a long-rage- all-EV to market by 2020 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kate Turlington + 44 KT December 15, 2017 and it's not just about growing their EV offerings: they've got to have the supply chain to back it up. They need batteries, and battery factories and everything that goes into a battery. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 15, 2017 There;s another competition between these two companies- Newsweek Green Company ranking. Which company is greener. And in this one Toyota wins. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 15, 2017 I'm not surprised that Toyota has won in this category. Tesla is everything but green. Is it at all on the "green" list? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 15, 2017 Yes, on not worth mentioning place. Right on the bottom of the ranking list among automakers, even behind Mazda and Subaru. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Selva + 252 SP December 15, 2017 That's funny knowing that Tesla is the only one among these other automakers producing EVs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP December 18, 2017 Competition is heating up for Tesla. The newest 7 seater electric SUV was unveiled in Beijing this weekend. And it is 50% cheaper than Tesla's Model X. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petar + 76 PP December 18, 2017 Well they sound pretty confident claiming they can compete against Tesla, technologically and product-wise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pavel + 384 PP December 20, 2017 Maybe Toyota can't compete with Tesla right now, but it's on the right path. As a producer of one of the most famous hybrid cars in history, is now going to enable every car it makes available with an electric motor. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TraderTate + 186 TS December 20, 2017 Actually, I think everyone overlooks GM in this game. They're way behind, but right now it's all about a massive EV push for this largest of carmakers in the US. It's rolling out 20 new all-electric models by 2023. That's huge and GM is really gunning for an all-electric future. Finally. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adam Varga + 123 AV December 20, 2017 All we talk about lately are EVs. And they make only 1% of auto sales worldwide, even less in the US. Are drivers really into EVs? Don't think so. It's all about numbers, and sales numbers are still not taking over the industry. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites